Wall warts for UK use

2008-06-26 Thread david.coleman

Am I alone in finding the number of wall warts supplied for the UK market that
have the plug part of the design upside down, irritating? 

The cable entry is then often at the top causing the wall wart to lean out
from the socket and any logo and labelling is also up the wrong way. 

Not just small manufacturers either, but the big guys too (I have Motorola
phones, Netgear routers, all upside down!) 

Don't the manufacturers check? Is there a widely circulated representation of
the UK sockets that has the diagram inverted? 

A minor thing I know, but it irks!!
Best Regards,
Dave Coleman AIIRSM 

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RE: Wall warts for UK use

2008-06-26 Thread James, Chris
The 13A UK wall socket is always earth pin uppermost as I’m sure you know
when fitted to a wall – extension leads laying on the floor and floor boxes
are another matter. 

 

The intent with the warts with cable coming out the top is that the cable is
going to run upwards to a desktop/work surface. So it’s a functionality
issue and one that in the majority of applications I find appropriate. What
does it matter the label is upside down – how often do you look at the
label??

 

The only issue I have is when a wart has to go into a recessed floor box when
there is often insufficient space to accommodate the cable strain relief
exiting the top. 

 

Chris AIIRSM



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Am I alone in finding the number of wall warts supplied for the UK market that
have the plug part of the design upside down, irritating? 

The cable entry is then often at the top causing the wall wart to lean out
from the socket and any logo and labelling is also up the wrong way. 

Not just small manufacturers either, but the big guys too (I have Motorola
phones, Netgear routers, all upside down!) 

Don't the manufacturers check? Is there a widely circulated representation of
the UK sockets that has the diagram inverted? 

A minor thing I know, but it irks!!
Best Regards,
Dave Coleman AIIRSM 

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Fw: Wall warts for UK use

2008-06-26 Thread david.coleman

Unfortunately it's not just the cable entry that's often at the top, but the
mass of the electronics, which with linear wall warts can be quite
substantial, causing the wall wart to pull away from the socket, which would
not happen if it was up the correct way (that the manufacturer probably
intended, or believed)
Best Regards,
Dave Coleman AIIRSM 




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RE: Wall warts for UK use






The 13A UK wall socket is always earth pin uppermost as I’m sure you know
when fitted to a wall – extension leads laying on the floor and floor boxes
are another matter. 
  
The intent with the warts with cable coming out the top is that the cable is
going to run upwards to a desktop/work surface. So it’s a functionality
issue and one that in the majority of applications I find appropriate. What
does it matter the label is upside down – how often do you look at the
label?? 
  
The only issue I have is when a wart has to go into a recessed floor box when
there is often insufficient space to accommodate the cable strain relief
exiting the top. 
  
Chris AIIRSM 




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Am I alone in finding the number of wall warts supplied for the UK market that
have the plug part of the design upside down, irritating? 

The cable entry is then often at the top causing the wall wart to lean out
from the socket and any logo and labelling is also up the wrong way. 

Not just small manufacturers either, but the big guys too (I have Motorola
phones, Netgear routers, all upside down!) 

Don't the manufacturers check? Is there a widely circulated representation of
the UK sockets that has the diagram inverted? 

A minor thing I know, but it irks!!
Best Regards,
Dave Coleman AIIRSM 

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Re: Wall warts for UK use

2008-06-26 Thread John Woodgate

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Am I alone in finding the number of wall warts supplied for the UK 
market that have the plug part of the design upside down, irritating?

The cable entry is then often at the top causing the wall wart to lean 
out from the socket and any logo and labelling is also up the wrong 
way.

I think there is no official definition of 'upside down' in this 
context. But it's true that plug-transformers with the cable exit from 
the face adjacent to the earth pin are a relatively recent phenomenon. I 
wonder why they are designed that way. They can't be used with some 2- 
and 3-way plug adapters, but of course they are not normally a problem 
if used with extension boards.

Maybe they are adapted, without sufficient thought, from designs using 
the reversible Schuko plug.
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