RE: non CE upgrades in the EU

1998-03-17 Thread Frazee Doug
The European Council has also published a guideline document on the application 
of the EMC Directive.  You can download it at : 
http://www.emc-journal.co.uk/newguide.html  Paragraph 7 discusses, 
reconditioned, reconfigured and refurbished equipments, both CE marked and not. 
 In the case of non CE marked apparatus, application of the EMC Directive is 
not mandatory unless, as a result of the modifications, it becomes "as-new 
apparatus."  As-new apparatus is defined as having "identical (or similar) 
performance as, and adapted to the technical progress to the new apparatus 
placed on the market at the same time."  If the modified equipment is not 
"as-new", the EMC Directive does not apply.

Doug Frazee
EMC Compliance Engineer
Windermere Information Technology Systems
MILCOM Compliance Laboratories (MCL) division
401 Defense Highway
Annapolis, MD  21401
USA
(410) 266-1793
(410) 266-1751 FAX
dfra...@windermeregroup.com


-Original Message-
From:   Richard Cass [SMTP:richard_c...@iris.scitex.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 17, 1998 8:12 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:    non CE upgrades in the EU

 Greetings,
 We have a situation where we have ITE equipment installed at a commercial 
 sites in the EU that were delivered before January 1, 1996.  They do not 
 carry the CE mark.  We are now working on some field retrofitable design 
 changes that can be installed in these "old" machines.  The upgrade is 
done 
 by a service engineer and mostly involves exchanging circuit boards.  It 
 will be economically impossible to make this upgrade of an old 
 configuration machine meet standards that would apply to new products 
 shipped to the EU today (e.g. EN50081 class B).  My questions boil down to 
 these:
 
 1.) Given that the specific machine was already placed in service in the 
EU 
 before 1/1/96, does this mean selling a customer this upgrade kit forces 
us 
 to meet the latest standards and then CE mark the product?
 
 2.) Does the upgrade kit (a bunch of loose boards that do not function 
 outside our machine, other parts, and instructions in box) have to be CE 
 marked?
 
 I am pretty certain that the answer to 2 is NO and I am fairly certain 
 (which is less than pretty certain) that the answer to 1 is also NO. Can 
 anyone help me substantiate these answers or correct me if I am wrong?
 
 Thanks in advance for the usual insightful responses.
 
 Regards,
 Richard Cass
 Iris Graphics
 Bedford,MA
 USA



Re: non CE upgrades in the EU

1998-03-17 Thread Dick Shultz
Richard,

Per section 7.2.1.1 of the latest Guidelines on the Application of the 
EMC Directive you would only have to comply with the EMC directive if you 
were bringing the equipment up to "as-new" status. That is, if you made 
the equipment competitive with new devices used for the same purpose. 
Otherwise the updated old equipment could have a competitive advantage 
partly because it would not need to comply. This same section does, 
however, suggest that you be ready to justify your decision in case 
you're ever challenged.

Dick Shultz
Complinace & Approvals Manager
Brooktrout Technology, Inc.

On 3/17/98 9:11 AM Richard Cass  said:

> Greetings,
> We have a situation where we have ITE equipment installed at a 
commercial 
> sites in the EU that were delivered before January 1, 1996.  They do not 
> carry the CE mark.  We are now working on some field retrofitable design 
> changes that can be installed in these "old" machines.  The upgrade is 
done 
> by a service engineer and mostly involves exchanging circuit boards.  It 
> will be economically impossible to make this upgrade of an old 
> configuration machine meet standards that would apply to new products 
> shipped to the EU today (e.g. EN50081 class B).  My questions boil down 
to 
> these:
> 
> 1.) Given that the specific machine was already placed in service in the 
EU 
> before 1/1/96, does this mean selling a customer this upgrade kit forces 
us 
> to meet the latest standards and then CE mark the product?
> 
> 2.) Does the upgrade kit (a bunch of loose boards that do not function 
> outside our machine, other parts, and instructions in box) have to be CE 
> marked?
> 
> I am pretty certain that the answer to 2 is NO and I am fairly certain 
> (which is less than pretty certain) that the answer to 1 is also NO. Can 
> anyone help me substantiate these answers or correct me if I am wrong?
> 
> Thanks in advance for the usual insightful responses.
> 
> Regards,
> Richard Cass
> Iris Graphics
> Bedford,MA
> USA
>
>


non CE upgrades in the EU

1998-03-17 Thread Richard Cass
 Greetings,
 We have a situation where we have ITE equipment installed at a commercial 
 sites in the EU that were delivered before January 1, 1996.  They do not 
 carry the CE mark.  We are now working on some field retrofitable design 
 changes that can be installed in these "old" machines.  The upgrade is 
done 
 by a service engineer and mostly involves exchanging circuit boards.  It 
 will be economically impossible to make this upgrade of an old 
 configuration machine meet standards that would apply to new products 
 shipped to the EU today (e.g. EN50081 class B).  My questions boil down to 
 these:
 
 1.) Given that the specific machine was already placed in service in the 
EU 
 before 1/1/96, does this mean selling a customer this upgrade kit forces 
us 
 to meet the latest standards and then CE mark the product?
 
 2.) Does the upgrade kit (a bunch of loose boards that do not function 
 outside our machine, other parts, and instructions in box) have to be CE 
 marked?
 
 I am pretty certain that the answer to 2 is NO and I am fairly certain 
 (which is less than pretty certain) that the answer to 1 is also NO. Can 
 anyone help me substantiate these answers or correct me if I am wrong?
 
 Thanks in advance for the usual insightful responses.
 
 Regards,
 Richard Cass
 Iris Graphics
 Bedford,MA
 USA