Re: [Emc-users] Reset of offsets after running program

2007-05-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:50:58PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> One trick is to not have an M02 at the end of the program.  This 
> gets a warning message, but doesn't reset the offsets.  I think 
> you can reinstate the offsets with G92.3.
> 

A gcode file starting and ending with % signs, but with no M02 or
M30 at the end, is accepted without error or warning:

http://www.linuxcnc.org/handbook/RS274NGC_3/RS274NGC_33a.html#1001702


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Re: [Emc-users] Reset of offsets after running program

2007-05-16 Thread Jon Elson
Andy Holcomb wrote:
> Okay, I am making a request/plea.
> 
> Refresher,  I loaded up EMC2 after running BDI for about 3 or 4 years
> and I use TkEMC (because I like it!!!). After running my first program
> EMC2 reset my offsets to what the machine started at. So I asked the
> group  why is it that BDI didn't do this and how come I can't use the
> right click on the axis to set the offset. The jist of the answer I got
> was "because thats not proper edict".
One trick is to not have an M02 at the end of the program.  This 
gets a warning message, but doesn't reset the offsets.  I think 
you can reinstate the offsets with G92.3.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Pratt and Whitney Turn Mate

2007-05-16 Thread Ed
Andy Holcomb wrote:
> Ed wrote:
> 
>>Andy Holcomb wrote:

> 
> He says he has the schematic book but the schematics are for the machine 
> without the crt. What is the likelihood that it will work with this 
> machine that has the crt?
> 

Most likely the servo drive and feedback circuits are simular if you 
want to go to a full servo system, not a Gecko setup.


> 
> Do you like it?
> What are the drawbacks that you have found of this machine?
> 
>>  

To tell the truth I have not used it as I have not quite got my head 
around the tool setup. The major disadvantage to the sliding head is 
trying to run a full lenght bar out the back, chucker work should be OK. 
My machine has the chuck actuator blocking the spindle bore so that 
chucker work is all this one will do.

>>
>>>Next question, what would you pay for it, 1000 too much?
>>>Andy
>>>

Actually this one came from a Tech school surplus. Inside the cabinet 
all the boards, drives, and connectors are shiny new, all the lettering 
around the front panel keys is absolutly perfect. Price? $300 (tool 
gloat) ;-)Ed.

>>>
>>
>>Operational machines in this size with conventional headstock and same 
>>vintage bring 1K to 3K.
>>  
> 

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Re: [Emc-users] Pratt and Whitney Turn Mate

2007-05-16 Thread Dale
Hi Ray,

Ray Henry wrote:
Snip>
> Okay.  Let's say now that you've got quadrature feedback of axis and
> spindle position.  Now you need a way to get those signals into the PC
> running EMC2.  Several board makers have devices that can do this.  EMC
> has HAL driver modules that can read these.  In alphabetical order, some
> of these include.  Mesa, Pico, Pluto, STG, Vigilant, Vital.  You'll find
> links to these companies at www.linuxcnc.org.
> 
Big Snip

Pluto? I haven't heard of this one, Would you have a link? I don't see 
it listed on www.linuxcnc.org.


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Re: [Emc-users] Reset of offsets after running program

2007-05-16 Thread Kenneth Lerman
We *could* have a bit to set in the INI file to kill this feature if the
owner so desires.

All it would take is an implementor with the proper skills who desired to do
that.

As long as the default was to "do the right (according to specification)
thing" I certainly wouldn't object to it.

I, too, am running BDI and using TkEMC. The next time I'm ready to
reinstall, I'll switch to Axis, but I can understand your frustration.  I'm
anticipating that the switch might be painful, so I'll probably install the
new system on a second machine so that I can still get work done as needed
while I'm playing with the new system.

It is unfortunate that I'll have to do that, but it is a common problem. I
have the same issue with upgrading/changing my phone system from
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Ken

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Subject: [Emc-users] Reset of offsets after running program


Okay, I am making a request/plea.

Refresher,  I loaded up EMC2 after running BDI for about 3 or 4 years
and I use TkEMC (because I like it!!!). After running my first program
EMC2 reset my offsets to what the machine started at. So I asked the
group  why is it that BDI didn't do this and how come I can't use the
right click on the axis to set the offset. The jist of the answer I got
was "because thats not proper edict".

Why can't we have a bit to set in the INI file to kills this feature if
the owner so desires?

Andy




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[Emc-users] Reset of offsets after running program

2007-05-16 Thread Andy Holcomb
Okay, I am making a request/plea.

Refresher,  I loaded up EMC2 after running BDI for about 3 or 4 years
and I use TkEMC (because I like it!!!). After running my first program
EMC2 reset my offsets to what the machine started at. So I asked the
group  why is it that BDI didn't do this and how come I can't use the
right click on the axis to set the offset. The jist of the answer I got
was "because thats not proper edict".

Why can't we have a bit to set in the INI file to kills this feature if
the owner so desires?

Andy




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[Emc-users] TkEMC Continues and Increment indicator bug

2007-05-16 Thread Andy Holcomb
I just wanted to ask if anybody had fixed the problem in TkEMC when you
press the c key, the display screen display of continuous and the
increment value should change/toggle and it does not.
It would be really really great if someone could fix this.

Andy


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Re: [Emc-users] Pratt and Whitney Turn Mate

2007-05-16 Thread Andy Holcomb


Ed wrote:
> Andy Holcomb wrote:
>   
>> Does anyone know the price an encoder that would work on this machine 
>> with emc and not made out of gold?
>> 
>
> The encoders are standard TTL out put with differential, just use the 
> non-inverted signals if you need single end, there is also a tach output.
>
>   
>> Will the geckos run these motors? and are they good with emc? I am 
>> trying to get an idea of the cost to retro fit it.
>> 
>
>
> Geckos should run OK but probably not to full potential since they have 
> an 80V limit. I use 320 Geckos on a mill useing EMC and except for the 
> lower speed it works Ok
>
>
>
>   
>>> Assuming resolver feedback there are a couple things you can do.  The
>>> first is get a resolver to quadrature converter box.  With such a box
>>> you get the signal generator to power the resolver and a fixed number of
>>> pulses per rotation of it. You could also replace the resolver with an
>>> encoder.  This is what MattS and I did with a Hardinge lathe.  He had a
>>> little spindle built that matched the size and arrangement of the
>>> Harosun(sp) resolver and mounted a shaft encoder on top of it.
>>>   
>
> Thats the plan for a Hardinge CHNC I picked up cheap, I have a couple of 
> ideas on turning the turret but don't mind suggestions!
>
>
>
>   
>>> Okay.  Let's say now that you've got quadrature feedback of axis and
>>> spindle position.  Now you need a way to get those signals into the PC
>>> running EMC2.  Several board makers have devices that can do this.  EMC
>>> has HAL driver modules that can read these.  In alphabetical order, some
>>> of these include.  Mesa, Pico, Pluto, STG, Vigilant, Vital.  You'll find
>>> links to these companies at www.linuxcnc.org.
>>>
>>> And lastly you will have to produce a velocity signal of the sort
>>> expected by the motor's drive amplifier.  In that age most of the drives
>>> used an analog signal that varied between -10v and +10 volt.  Again the
>>> board makers will usually have that ability as well.
>>>   
>
>
> I have schematics of this part if needed.   Ed.
>   
Thanks Ed
Andy
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Re: [Emc-users] Pratt and Whitney Turn Mate

2007-05-16 Thread Andy Holcomb

Ed wrote:
> Andy Holcomb wrote:
>   
>> What year is the model of the book you are looking at?
>>
>> 
>
>
> The book came with the machine and appears to be original 1982
>
>
>   
He says he has the schematic book but the schematics are for the machine 
without the crt. What is the likelihood that it will work with this 
machine that has the crt?
>   
>> This is the type that moves spindle in and out, is that the type you are 
>> looking at?
>> 
>
>
> Yup, appears to be the same, head moves left-right, turret moves in-out
>
>   
Do you like it?
What are the drawbacks that you have found of this machine?
>   
>> Next question, what would you pay for it, 1000 too much?
>> Andy
>>
>> 
>
> Operational machines in this size with conventional headstock and same 
> vintage bring 1K to 3K.
>   
Cool
Andy
> Ed.
>
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[Emc-users] I need Used and New Milling CNC Machines.

2007-05-16 Thread Kasparov, Aram
 


>From Conceptmachinery

1812 NE 104 st # 338

971-570-3581

Aram Kasparov

 

I am looking a best price for 3 milling machines described below. 

I am interesting in any source of that type machine such as used machine 
dealers or shops that want to sell machine. 

Controller required to be brand new FANUC to put on machine. 

I will offer EMC-2 on Ubuntu 5.11 (Ubuntu 6.06 has a lot of flaws and bugs) 
controller too. That customer want to ran production and he needs stable 
practically proven controller.

I appreciate for any help that you can provide. 

 

1. First Milling Machine.

 

I am looking for new 4 full axes horizontal milling center of HAAS EC-1600 or 
equal to it.

Machine must be brand new. 

Question, does Cincinnati/G&L or any other builder produce equivalent type of 
mill? 

  General data for this particular Mill.

Axis travel: X 1626mm; Y 1016mm; Z 813mm;

Table, dimensions 1626x813mm

Work piece weight up to 10, 000 lb

 

Spindle.

 Taper 50. 

Speed up to 10,000 rpm

Two stage gear, or better direct drive. 

Capable to perform rigid taping.

Power 30 HP

 

Accuracy of machine +/- 0.0076mm

Repeatability +/- 0.0051

 

High pressure cooling system 300 psi

 

 

2. Second Milling Machine. 

 

This machine can be new or used. 

 

Horizontal milling center. 

 

 

 

Table dimensions: 4000mm by 1000mm;

 

Axis travel: X- 3800mm; Y-1300mm;  Z-1500mm;

 

Spindle speed: 35-3500 rpm.

First choice no gear box - direct drive.

Second option two-step gear drive.

 

Ability to perform rigid taping.

 

Rapid move: 25 meter per minute. 

 

Weight of work piece no less than 10, 000 Lb.

 

Tool holder: 50 taper.  

 

Controller: Brand New Fanuc.  

 

 

 

3. Third Milling Machine. 

 

This machine can be new or used. 

 

Vertical or horizontal milling center. 

 

 

Table dimensions: 7000mm by 1000mm;

 

Axis travel: X- 6000mm; Y-1000mm;  Z-1500mm;

 

Spindle speed: 35-7500 rpm.

First choice no gear box - direct drive.

Second option two-step gear drive.

 

Ability to perform rigid taping.

 

Rapid move: 25 meter per minute. 

 

Weight of work piece no less than 10, 000 Lb.

 

Tool holder: 50 taper.  

 

Controller: Brand New Fanuc


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