Re: [Emc-users] Puma560

[Jon Elson]

Jonathan Hancock wrote:
> Thanks Jon. You're right - the waveform is from the raw photosensor outputs.
> 
> Would it be posible for you to provide a circuit diagram using the LM193 
> please? I have tried an op-amp (Max942) as I have a few kicking around. 
> I connected A+ to one i/p and A- to the other following a diagram that I 
> found by a University student working on a Puma. It doesn't work!
Oh, so you have differential outputs?  That is much better, as 
it compensates for fading of the LED.

OK, the LM193 is really easy to connect.  Ground is pin 4, +5 V 
(or whatever your power supply is, up to 15 V) is pin 8.  For 
the first comparator, the + input is pin 3, the - input is pin 
2.  The output is pin 1.  (same pinout as a dual op-amp, how 
convenient!)  Connect A+ to pin 3, A- to pin 2.  Connect a 1 K 
Ohm resistor from +5 V to the output, as they are 
open-collector, and need a pull-up.  This really ought to work 
if the A+ and A- signals are crossing some intermediate voltage.

For the 2nd comparator, in+ is pin 5, in- is pin 6, out is pin 7.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] encoder format question

[Peter C. Wallace]

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, WF Chan wrote:


Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:55:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: WF Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: EMC users 
Subject: [Emc-users] encoder format question

Dear All, I am using SANYO DENKI Servo amp and motor to control my machine. 
I bought 5I20 and 7I33T to connect the amp.  But there are three difficult 
formats in the encoder signal output (Binary, Decimal and encoder signal), I 
don??t know which format supporting in emc2.


I would select "encoder signal" since thats what the 5I20 expects...

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[Emc-users] encoder format question

[WF Chan]

Dear All,
I am using SANYO DENKI Servo amp and motor to control my machine.  I bought 
5I20 and 7I33T to connect the amp.  But there are three difficult formats in 
the encoder signal output (Binary, Decimal and encoder signal), I don’t know 
which format supporting in emc2.
 
Below is the servo amp manual: 
http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/M0006890C.pdf
In Page 5-27(Manual) or 97(PDF file), telling me the output formats.  And page 
9-4 to 9-22(Manual) or 185 to 203(PDF) is the specification of pulse and signal 
output.  I am using motor incremental encoder.  Below is the encoder 
information:
http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/incre-E.jpg


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Re: [Emc-users] Sim axis fails after upgrade

[Steve Blackmore]

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:42:02 -0700, you wrote:

>On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 23:10 +0100, Steve Blackmore wrote:
>... snip
>> Funny you should mention that because even from original install, there
>> was something odd with the graphics driver. It was impossible to get any
>> resolution higher than 800x600 at 60hz. With windows it will do
>> 1280x1024 at 72hz on the same monitor.
>... snip
>
>I, more often than not, need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the
>settings to the driver I want (often vesa), vertical, horizontal and
>resolution settings (using the monitor's _real_ mfg's data). Usually, I
>have to try a few edits before I get what I want. 8.04 seems to be
>different, with no original settings at all, which means, I may need to
>learn a new set of work-arounds.

Steve's fix confused me a bit at first, when you select a resolution and
select test, it shows a fine checker pattern screen, with a dialogue box
asking do you want to accept etc, rather than showing the real desktop.
Gave me the impression it wasn't working. Also even on a working screen,
it says "test failed" ;)

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Re: [Emc-users] Sim axis fails after upgrade

[Steve Blackmore]

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:40:44 -0400, you wrote:


>Is this the same laptop that you tried the liveCD on many moons ago?

No - ASUS desktop machine

>I found this with google: 

Looks promising, but wouldn't run. Admin didn't want to load! 

I've just reinstalled from scratch and using the above managed to get
1024x768 screen :)

>Hope this helps

Thanks, so far, great. Sim working again. I'll take the PC back into
work again tomorrow, and put it on the wired network and see if the
updates work this time.

Thanks again.

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Re: [Emc-users] Sim axis fails after upgrade

[Stephen Wille Padnos]

Steve Blackmore wrote:

>On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:04:55 -0500, you wrote:
>  
>
>>On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 07:50:49PM +0100, Steve Blackmore wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I installed Ubuntu & EMC from the latest disro, and eveything worked
>>>well until Linux/EMC did some updates. Now all the sim axis programs
>>>fail to start.
>>>  
>>>
>>>_tkinter.TclError: Togl: X server has no OpenGL GLX extension 
>>>  
>>>
>>Here is the real error.  It looks like your X server lost its ability
>>to run OpenGL applications.
>>
>>
>Funny you should mention that because even from original install, there
>was something odd with the graphics driver. It was impossible to get any
>resolution higher than 800x600 at 60hz. With windows it will do
>1280x1024 at 72hz on the same monitor.
>  
>
Is this the same laptop that you tried the liveCD on many moons ago?

I found this with google: 
Here's the relevant part:

> 1) Right click Applications and select "Edit Menus"
> 2) Scroll to and select the "Other" location on the left side.
> 3) On the right side put a check mark in the box next to "Screens and 
> Graphics", then click "Close".
> 4) Go to Applications > Other > Screens and Graphics
> 5) On the screen tab, click the drop down next to model.
> 6) If you can find your model, great, if not, select generic LCD 
> (assuming it's an LCD)
> If it is a wide screen monitor, don't forget to check the wide screen box.
> 7) Now you can find & select your resolution and refresh rate from the 
> list on the right side. Click OK.
> 8 ) Go to the Graphics Card tab.
> 9) Click on Driver and select what you need.
> 10) Click the test button to make sure all is ok.
> 11) Click ok and you're done.

Steps 8-11 may not be useful for you, since some drivers have terrible 
realtime performance (nvidia proprietary, for example).

Hope this helps
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Re: [Emc-users] Sim axis fails after upgrade

[Steve Blackmore]

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:04:55 -0500, you wrote:

>On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 07:50:49PM +0100, Steve Blackmore wrote:
>
>> I installed Ubuntu & EMC from the latest disro, and eveything worked
>> well until Linux/EMC did some updates. Now all the sim axis programs
>> fail to start.
>
>> _tkinter.TclError: Togl: X server has no OpenGL GLX extension 
>
>Here is the real error.  It looks like your X server lost its ability
>to run OpenGL applications.

Funny you should mention that because even from original install, there
was something odd with the graphics driver. It was impossible to get any
resolution higher than 800x600 at 60hz. With windows it will do
1280x1024 at 72hz on the same monitor.

>On my hardy machine I don't see any relevant-looking updates pending.
>I also don't see any talk about it on ubuntuforums.org but I only
>searched (very) briefly.
>
>Are you sure you didn't change anything else?  Did you install a video
>driver or something?

Not intentionally, but there was quite a lot of updates.

TkEMC, MINI and Keystick still runs. It's just the AXIS stuff that
doesn't work, along with the 800x600 screen resolution problem.

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Re: [Emc-users] Puma560

[Jonathan Hancock]

Thanks Jon. You're right - the waveform is from the raw photosensor outputs.
Would it be posible for you to provide a circuit diagram using the LM193 
please? I have tried an op-amp (Max942) as I have a few kicking around. I 
connected A+ to one i/p and A- to the other following a diagram that I found by 
a University student working on a Puma. It doesn't work! 
Thanks
Jonathan

 



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Sent: Thursday, 4 September, 2008 2:31:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Puma560

Jonathan Hancock wrote:
> Hi all - just a quick update on my Puma project.
>  
> As a thought, the output from the original encoders is a sin/cos 
> waveform (to see goto http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ). I 
> will try to convert this low level signal into a ttl level square wave 
> using an op-amp. The encoder has a pair of leds and photo sensors in.
>  
OK, looking at the very asymmetric waveforms, I'm guessing these 
are just raw photosensor outputs, and not real sine/cosine 
signals ready to be interpolated.  I can't tell the voltage 
levels from the pic, but a simple comparator circuit should be 
able to convert to TTL levels.

Don't use an op-amp, they are too slow and don't have a 
"digital" output stage.  Use a comparator such as the LM193.

> I am looking at using a pic adc to gain limit and homing signals from 
> the pots on the back of the motors. This is looking quite promissing.
>  
> I've installed ubuntu and emc2 on my machine and now baffled!
>  
> Jon - am I sorting the correct things out to interface to your cards?
I guess so.  You would need digital A, B and Z signals, and a 
contact closure or opto-isolator output for the limit signals, 
and home switch simulation.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] ANNOUNCE: pycam - 3D CNC Toolpath Generation

[Stephen Wille Padnos]

Karl Schmidt wrote:

>My list is focused on using GPL if at all possible - and I don't see a way to 
>edit the official wiki..
>  
>
At the bottom of the main page, and also included on others, is text 
like this:
"If you want to add information to this page or add a new page, follow 
some BasicSteps. "
The word "BasicSteps" is a link to this page, which tells you how to 
edit wiki pages:


Hope this helps  :)
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Re: [Emc-users] ANNOUNCE: pycam - 3D CNC Toolpath Generation

[Karl Schmidt]

My list is focused on using GPL if at all possible - and I don't see a way to 
edit the official wiki..

But it helps me complete my list. My goal is to have a list that would help 
support truly open 
projects.

Alex Joni wrote:
> You're probably aware of our own list :)
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Cam
> 
> Regards,
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
>> lode leroy wrote:
>>>   Hi folks,
>>>
>>>   I just released a GPL 3D CNC Toolpath Generation program.
>> Cool .. I've been putting a list of CAD and CAM programs that run on Linux 
>> together here:
>>
>> http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/CAD_CAM
>>
>> Let me know if I've missed other ones..
>>
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] Translate EMC's interface into Vietnamese

[Jeff Epler]

Thank you for your offer to improve emc!

Axis uses the "gnu gettext" system to translate strings into the user's
language.

To create a new translation, first prepare your system to compile emc
and get a checkout of the current source code, as described here:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#On_Ubuntu_6_06_or_8_04_from_source
steps 2.1, 2.2 and one of steps 2.3 and 2.4.

After compiling emc2, you will find several files with the ".pot"
extension in the src/po directories.  For each of these you copy the
file to a new ".po" file for your language--the two letter code for
Vietnamese is "vi".  For example, copy "axis.pot" to "vi_axis.pot"
At the top of the file, enter some information that identifies the
translation, the translator, and so on.

Next, for each message in vi_axis.pot, write the translation.  (For
messages that you skip, the original text will be shown instead)

When you want to test your translation, execute "make" again, then run
the version emc you built.

When you are satisfied with your translation, e-mail me the .po files
that you wrote, and I will include them in a future release of emc.
>From time to time, as new messages are added and old messages are
changed, you should update the translation and send me the updated copy.

There is more information about the process of producing translations in
the file src/po/README, and in the documentation for gnu gettext which
you can see by running 'info gettext' in the terminal after installing
the gettext package.

Please don't hesitate to send further e-mails if you need me to clarify
these instructions.

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Re: [Emc-users] Sim axis fails after upgrade

[Chris Radek]

On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 07:50:49PM +0100, Steve Blackmore wrote:

> I installed Ubuntu & EMC from the latest disro, and eveything worked
> well until Linux/EMC did some updates. Now all the sim axis programs
> fail to start.

> _tkinter.TclError: Togl: X server has no OpenGL GLX extension 

Here is the real error.  It looks like your X server lost its ability
to run OpenGL applications.

On my hardy machine I don't see any relevant-looking updates pending.
I also don't see any talk about it on ubuntuforums.org but I only
searched (very) briefly.

Are you sure you didn't change anything else?  Did you install a video
driver or something?

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[Emc-users] Sim axis fails after upgrade

[Steve Blackmore]

Hi - can anybody help please.

I installed Ubuntu & EMC from the latest disro, and eveything worked
well until Linux/EMC did some updates. Now all the sim axis programs
fail to start.

Start of error details below, full details at http://pastebin.ca/1193785

RUN_IN_PLACE=no
EMC2_DIR=
EMC2_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin
EMC2_TCL_DIR=/usr/share/emc/tcl
EMC2_SCRIPT_DIR=
EMC2_RTLIB_DIR=/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/emc2
EMC2_CONFIG_DIR=
EMC2_LANG_DIR=/usr/share/emc/tcl/msgs
INIVAR=/usr/bin/inivar
HALCMD=/usr/bin/halcmd
EMC2_EMCSH=/usr/bin/emcsh
EMC2_IOSH=/usr/bin/iosh
EMC2 - 2.2.6
Machine configuration directory is '/home/steve/emc2/configs/sim'
Machine configuration file is 'axis.ini'
INIFILE=/home/steve/emc2/configs/sim/axis.ini
PARAMETER_FILE=sim.var
EMCMOT=motmod
EMCIO=io
TASK=milltask
HALUI=halui
DISPLAY=axis
NML_FILE=emc.nml
Starting EMC2...
Starting EMC2 server program: emcsvr
Loading Real Time OS, RTAPI, and HAL_LIB modules
Starting EMC2 IO program: io
Starting HAL User Interface program: halui
Starting EMC2 TASK program: milltask
Starting EMC2 DISPLAY program: axis
Shutting down and cleaning up EMC2...
Killing task emcsvr, PID=7922
Killing task milltask, PID=8052
Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules
Removing NML shared memory segments
Cleanup done
 

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[Emc-users] GCAM alternatives

[Cary Rohan]

I have been using GCAM for months and love this little program. I am just 
wondering if their are any other programs that do the same or better 
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Re: [Emc-users] Problems with axises in auto and mdi

[Jack]

Patrick,

One more item, you need to make sure you ALWAYS keep some kind of load on
the PC power supply when it is plugged in.  Some of the older ones had real
problems if you didn't have some reasonable load on them (problem like: stop
working and let the magic smoke out!).

So make sure you have your board at least attached when powering it up.

Now newer power supplies MAY have fixed that issue.  So as always YMMV.

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Re: [Emc-users] ANNOUNCE: pycam - 3D CNC Toolpath Generation

[lode leroy]

> I see the docs follow the standard Linux documentation standards. NONE!

Thanks for your appreciation. If you don't like it, don't use it.
This is the first release of a new project,
please wait a few years until it gets to the level of usability that will be 
"fool-proof".

> I see the docs follow the standard Linux documentation standards. NONE!

There is a README.TXT...

> Where is PyOpenGL-3.0.0b5.tar.gz?

the README.TXT states the following:

For visualization, install

PyOpenGL :  http://pyopengl.sourceforge.net/

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pyopengl/PyOpenGL-3.0.0b5.tar.gz

(requires TOGL)
TOGL: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/togl/Togl2.0-8.4-Windows.zip
  (just copy Togl2.0 into Python25/tcl)
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/togl/Togl2.0-src.tar.gz

(on windows, this also requires GLUT)
GLUT :  
http://www.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~georg.hennig/downloads/glut-3.7.6-wheel_mingw.zip

> Nothing like that in  pycam-0.1.1.tgz and running 'python setup.py bdist_egg' 
> or 'python setup.py py2exe' just causes beeps and a number of 1.9MB 
> PostScript files to be created.

just try "python pycam.py" and see if that works.


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Re: [Emc-users] FW: EMC and HobbyCNC

[John Thornton]

Kim, 

Thanks for the detailed write up. I have added that to the Troubshooting 
section of 
the wiki page under Hardware Problems.

Thanks
John

On 3 Sep 2008 at 17:51, Kim Mortensen wrote:

> FYI
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Mortensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 3. september 2008 17:50
> To: John Thornton
> Subject: RE: [Emc-users] EMC and HobbyCNC
> 
> 
> John, I dont have any pictures, so Ill just type it..
 Ray taught me how :)

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[Emc-users] Translate EMC's interface into Vietnamese

[An Pham Duc]

I want to translate EMC's interface (Axis) into Vietnamese. Please tell me
step by step what I have to do.
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