Re: [Emc-users] Uni-directional approach?

2009-07-18 Thread Leslie Newell
As long as your backlash is the same all over the travel then backlash 
compensation can work quite well in a point to point application. It 
helps to have a little bit of friction in the ways. If you are using 
ball slides then it doesn't work as well. With lower friction slides, 
keeping the acceleration down may help.

Les

cmg...@sover.net wrote:
 For a point to point application. A simple x/y table could benefit by a
 unidirectional approach feature.
 
 Is this specialization supported by G-code and EMC?
 
 OR is backlash compensation the avenue to achieve the required results?
 
 A brief seach for such a topic was not rewarded,  perhaps I need to
 increase my search awareness factor.
 
 Regards
 
 Cal
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 homing

2009-07-18 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Does that make sense? If the terminator is really 100 ohms, that would 
imply that the pull up is in the order of ten ohms. (Am I correct in my 
assumption that the power supply is five volts?)

Ken

Leslie Newell wrote:
 Hi Ken,

 Yes, this was under load.

 Les

 Kenneth Lerman wrote:
   
 Did you measure that while it was connected to the receiver? If the 
 terminator is 100 ohms and the pull up is 1K ohms, the voltage under 
 load would only be around 400 mv. That should be fine, I think.

 If the pull up is 10K, then you would have around 40 mv. I don't think 
 that would work too well.

 Ken

 

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Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 homing

2009-07-18 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Ken,

It does make sense. It looks like the encoder outputs are push-pull. 
Just fro the record I never said they had pullups. Someone just 
mentioned that some encoders do have weak pullups.

Les

Kenneth Lerman wrote:
 Does that make sense? If the terminator is really 100 ohms, that would 
 imply that the pull up is in the order of ten ohms. (Am I correct in my 
 assumption that the power supply is five volts?)
 

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Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 homing

2009-07-18 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Peter,

What is the default value for the filter? I found that a value of 1 
nearly sorted the problem. A value of 2 was pretty well rock solid. Just 
to be sure I set it to 6 as my max frequency is well under 200kHz.

I guess it is already on your to-do list but I would guess that it would 
be well worth adding this as a parameter with a recommendation in your 
docs to set it for as low a frequency as practical.

Thanks,
Les



 Well if the extra filtering of the TTL inputs helps, I would do the trick 
 with 
 raw-write to setup the filter time constant (the QFilterRate register at 
 0x3400). Currently the filter frequency is 33 MHZ which gives a 450 ns time 
 constant: good for encoder count rates up to ~4 MHz, if the filter was set to 
 divide by 8 (loaded with 6) you could still count up to 500 KHz but reject 
 pulses up to 4 uSec long. You can divide the 33 MHz by up to 2049 (which 
 _will_ be too slow, limiting your count rate to ~2KHz (filter on) or 10KHz 
 (filter off)


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Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 homing

2009-07-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Leslie Newell wrote:

 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:04:47 +0100
 From: Leslie Newell les.new...@fastmail.co.uk
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 homing
 
 Hi Peter,

 What is the default value for the filter? I found that a value of 1
 nearly sorted the problem. A value of 2 was pretty well rock solid. Just
 to be sure I set it to 6 as my max frequency is well under 200kHz.

Default is 0x800 which gives divide by one (33 MHz for 5I20s) This allows the 
maximum count rates (~4 MHz with filter bit set, ~16 MHz with filter bit 
clear)


 I guess it is already on your to-do list but I would guess that it would
 be well worth adding this as a parameter with a recommendation in your
 docs to set it for as low a frequency as practical.

Yes, that recommendation (and a description of the filter timing) is in the 
regmap file, but not in the Hostmot2 manual as the driver does not support 
setting QFilterRate as yet.



 Thanks,
 Les



 Well if the extra filtering of the TTL inputs helps, I would do the trick 
 with
 raw-write to setup the filter time constant (the QFilterRate register at
 0x3400). Currently the filter frequency is 33 MHZ which gives a 450 ns time
 constant: good for encoder count rates up to ~4 MHz, if the filter was set to
 divide by 8 (loaded with 6) you could still count up to 500 KHz but reject
 pulses up to 4 uSec long. You can divide the 33 MHz by up to 2049 (which
 _will_ be too slow, limiting your count rate to ~2KHz (filter on) or 10KHz
 (filter off)


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[Emc-users] emc2 live download

2009-07-18 Thread Rondal Nannie
I am a new user and I tried to down load emc2 live and it will not run or 
install. Also can or is it ok to download to a lap top? I  read some where on 
the directions that it would stop the computer from going into hibernation? Is 
that correct? Thanks Ron
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Re: [Emc-users] emc2 live download

2009-07-18 Thread John Guenther
Did you burn the image to a CD?  The EMC2 live CD download is the image
for a bootable CD that you can run EMC2 from.  There is an option in the
startup menu to install it to the hard drive or there is an icon on the
screen to run the install.
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Re: [Emc-users] emc2 live download

2009-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 18 July 2009, Rondal Nannie wrote:
I am a new user and I tried to down load emc2 live and it will not run or
 install.
Its an .iso image, how did you burn it to the cd?  If you look at the cd with 
a dir command, do you see a whle bunch of files, or just the file by the same 
name as you downloaded?  If you see the single file, you burned it using the 
wrong mode.

 Also can or is it ok to download to a lap top? I  read some where
 on the directions that it would stop the computer from going into
 hibernation? Is that correct? Thanks Ron

Generally correct for that version I believe.  Installing ubuntu 8.04 LTS and 
then the latest emc will not I think do that.  However, be aware that emc 
demands a hardware parallel port that meets certain specs, and laptops haven't 
had one of those in many years.  You can run it in emulation mode on the 
laptop I believe, but not actually drive the machinery since they have no 
port.

Almost any desktop machine with 383 megs of ram, and a gigahertz or faster cpu 
 a good par port with a separate video card can be used.  Emc isn't a game  
doesn't need that sort of speed.  Troll through the goodwill store or flea 
markets for something usable.

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Re: [Emc-users] emc2 live download

2009-07-18 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/7/19 Rondal Nannie rl...@sbcglobal.net:

  The cd that I have was made by somebody else but it did have several files 
 in it. I must be doing something wrong

Are you trying to run it, or boot from it?

Make sure that CD-ROM is before HD in the boot order of the BIOS,
insert the Live-CD and restart.

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Re: [Emc-users] emc2 live download

2009-07-18 Thread Rondal Nannie
John  I went to the site and tried to down load right from the site after I 
couldnt get it done with the cd. I tried both, the image and then the down load 
and install.  The cd that I have was made by somebody else but it did have 
several files in it. I must be doing something wrong .Thanks Ron

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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2 live download
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Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 11:32 PM


Did you burn the image to a CD?  The EMC2 live CD download is the image
for a bootable CD that you can run EMC2 from.  There is an option in the
startup menu to install it to the hard drive or there is an icon on the
screen to run the install.
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 Is that correct? Thanks Ron
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Re: [Emc-users] emc2 live download

2009-07-18 Thread Rondal Nannie
Gene  I went to the site and tried to down load right from the site after I 
couldnt get it done with the cd. I tried both, the image and then the down load 
and install.  The cd that I have was made by somebody else but it did have 
several files in it. I must be doing something wrong .Thanks Ron


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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc2 live download
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 10:39 PM


On Saturday 18 July 2009, Rondal Nannie wrote:
I am a new user and I tried to down load emc2 live and it will not run or
 install.
Its an .iso image, how did you burn it to the cd?  If you look at the cd with 
a dir command, do you see a whle bunch of files, or just the file by the same 
name as you downloaded?  If you see the single file, you burned it using the 
wrong mode.

 Also can or is it ok to download to a lap top? I  read some where
 on the directions that it would stop the computer from going into
 hibernation? Is that correct? Thanks Ron

Generally correct for that version I believe.  Installing ubuntu 8.04 LTS and 
then the latest emc will not I think do that.  However, be aware that emc 
demands a hardware parallel port that meets certain specs, and laptops haven't 
had one of those in many years.  You can run it in emulation mode on the 
laptop I believe, but not actually drive the machinery since they have no 
port.

Almost any desktop machine with 383 megs of ram, and a gigahertz or faster cpu 
 a good par port with a separate video card can be used.  Emc isn't a game  
doesn't need that sort of speed.  Troll through the goodwill store or flea 
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Re: [Emc-users] emc2 live download

2009-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 18 July 2009, Rondal Nannie wrote:
Gene  I went to the site and tried to down load right from the site after I
 couldnt get it done with the cd. I tried both, the image and then the down
 load and install.  The cd that I have was made by somebody else but it did
 have several files in it. I must be doing something wrong .Thanks Ron

Is the bios set to let it boot from the cd?

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