Re: [Emc-users] Conversion Suggesions?

2014-01-31 Thread andy pugh
On 31 January 2014 05:30, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2014/01/2-Quadrant-BLDC-speed-driver-ver.-48ZWSK50-B-804-1.pdf

It _looks_ like a conventional velocity-controlled servo drive (though
I actually think it will be working in current mode).

So, with PID in HAL, it ought to work just fine for position control.


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Re: [Emc-users] Gcode to a keystroke

2014-01-31 Thread Jim Wilkin
Success!
Thank you all for your help.

I made a bash script: M133,
 #!/bin/bash

# file to clear messages

halcmd setp classicladder.0.in-13 True

sleep .01s

halcmd setp classicladder.0.in-13 False

exit 0

In classicladder it is in parallel with a push button added to the GUI
,they in turn trigger a one shot which tells hal :

 net clear-DISPLAY classicladder.0.out-07 =
axisui.notifications-clear-info

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I guess you could say I did my revamp on the cheap.
I simply replaced the motherboard with a parallel interface card .
Had some linsteppers that I wasn't using .After removing the power
transistors wired them into the existing stepper drivers and motors.
So I could use step and direction control.
Using existing spindle and turret boards.
I get the encoder signal from the spindle board .I don't know if any
current limiting is done there.Its the same signal that was going into
the motherboard.
I have a P I loop with wpm (inverted) output and that pot replacer low
pass filter circuit for spindle speed control.


Now that everything is up and running and what a jewel it is, I want to
add home switches to the axis and the turret.

My max speed is 27 ipm ,any faster and the motors sound bad.
The spindle at speed (set at 10%)  blinks about every two seconds .
Hopefully I can fix this by tuning.

One of the first jobs I did, was making new tie rods which hold on the
turret motor they have a 2.5 x.45 mm thread on each end .
It's the little engine lathe that could.

Thanks again to everyone for the help. Jim

On 01/30/2014 02:36 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Jim Wilkin james.a.wil...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Thank you Sebastion,

 This is for my new to me EMCO compact 5 cnc lathe retrofit.


 
 Hey!  Im currently doing three of these!  I have one machine up and running
 w/ Mesa boards, new steppers+drivers, D525MW, and an ELO touchscreen.  Only
 thing I reused is the power supply (though i think I may reuse the spindle
 drive on the next one.)  I've figured out the spindle encoder feedback so
 should have that fixed and up and running this weekend (note: there are NO
 current limiting resistors for the diodes in the potted sensor block;))
 
 Stephen
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Re: [Emc-users] Conversion Suggesions?

2014-01-31 Thread Dave Cole
On 1/31/2014 7:41 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 31 January 2014 05:30, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2014/01/2-Quadrant-BLDC-speed-driver-ver.-48ZWSK50-B-804-1.pdf
 It _looks_ like a conventional velocity-controlled servo drive (though
 I actually think it will be working in current mode).

 So, with PID in HAL, it ought to work just fine for position control.


If that drive follows these design ideas then I don't think you can do 
effective servo control with a 2 quadrant brushless DC drive.

This document has some explanation as to why.

Siemens always told us that 4 quadrant control was a requirement for 
effective controlled positioning - ala servo control.

Here is an old TI app note.

http://www.ti.com/lit/an/slua083/slua083.pdf

Dave


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