[Emc-users] Phone security Re: Toolchanges

2014-03-26 Thread Gregg Eshelman 
On 3/26/2014 3:19 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:

> ROFL!  Them phone mit keypads on 'em are getting harder and harder to
> find.  We had a real problem here at work for a while, since they banned
> cameras from the installation.  It was getting impossible to find phones
> that didn't have a camera.  They finally loosened up that rule a bit and
> now we're allowed to bring our phones onto the base again.

Easy to take care of that. Everyone bringing a phone in gets a bright 
green sticker to apply over the phone camera lens. Could have some made 
up with adhesive just around the edge and formulated so they'll only 
stick once or change color if they're peeled off and re-applied.

When you leave, the stickers get checked. No sticker? You have to show 
you don't have any photos of the inside of the building.

'Course someone could steal some of the stickers...

Another option would be company issued phones with a piece of opaque 
plastic super glued over the camera lens or carefully hit the lens with 
a glass bead blaster.

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Re: [Emc-users] Remapping M6 - change_epilog not called.

2014-03-26 Thread Rod Fitzsimmons Frey 
Thanks, I'll do that!


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Michael Haberler wrote:

>
>
> > Am 26.03.2014 um 16:53 schrieb Rod Fitzsimmons Frey :
> >
> > Hi!  I'm merrily trying to remap M6 using the guidelines at
> >
> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/remap/structure.html#_configuring_iocontrol_with_a_remapped_m6
> .
> > I'm trying to use all-python to implement my rack toolchanger.
> >
> > I have some stuff working - change_epilog in stdglue.py is called, my
> code
> > executes and moves the spindle to the correct location for the new tool,
> > etc. But change_epilog isn't called.  I put a print statement as the
> first
> > line in both change_prolog and change_epilog - the former is executed but
> > the latter is not.
> >
> > Perhaps as a result of change_epilog not getting called, my current tool
> is
> > never changed from -1.  (Although that could be something else if
> there's a
> > step I'm missing in my toolchange code.)
> >
> > My ini file line is
> > REMAP=M6 modalgroup=6 prolog=change_prolog epilog=change_epilog
> > py=toolchange
> >
> > and the epilog signature (unchanged from src) is
> > def change_epilog(self, **words):
> >
> > Any advice?
>
> yes
>
> what you are doing is an all-python remapped code
>
> now the prolog and epilog Python handlers are there to extract parameters,
> and set the environment for a _ngc_ remap function
>
> if you are doing all-python you can collapse all code into a single python
> remap body (all code will go into py=toolchange)
>
> so just drop the prolog and epilog handlers, do it all in toolchange() and
> you should be fine
>
> there was a problem with three python handlers in sequence; not sure if it
> is mentioned in the docs or just the code; since the separate pre- and post
> handlers dont make sense anyway I avoided the issue by not calling them
>
> let me know if you get stuck - just push your config and coce beforehand
> so I can have a look
>
> - Michael
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Rod
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Re: [Emc-users] Remapping M6 - change_epilog not called.

2014-03-26 Thread Michael Haberler 


> Am 26.03.2014 um 16:53 schrieb Rod Fitzsimmons Frey :
> 
> Hi!  I'm merrily trying to remap M6 using the guidelines at
> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/remap/structure.html#_configuring_iocontrol_with_a_remapped_m6.
> I'm trying to use all-python to implement my rack toolchanger.
> 
> I have some stuff working - change_epilog in stdglue.py is called, my code
> executes and moves the spindle to the correct location for the new tool,
> etc. But change_epilog isn't called.  I put a print statement as the first
> line in both change_prolog and change_epilog - the former is executed but
> the latter is not.
> 
> Perhaps as a result of change_epilog not getting called, my current tool is
> never changed from -1.  (Although that could be something else if there's a
> step I'm missing in my toolchange code.)
> 
> My ini file line is
> REMAP=M6 modalgroup=6 prolog=change_prolog epilog=change_epilog
> py=toolchange
> 
> and the epilog signature (unchanged from src) is
> def change_epilog(self, **words):
> 
> Any advice?

yes

what you are doing is an all-python remapped code

now the prolog and epilog Python handlers are there to extract parameters, and 
set the environment for a _ngc_ remap function

if you are doing all-python you can collapse all code into a single python 
remap body (all code will go into py=toolchange)

so just drop the prolog and epilog handlers, do it all in toolchange() and you 
should be fine

there was a problem with three python handlers in sequence; not sure if it is 
mentioned in the docs or just the code; since the separate pre- and post 
handlers dont make sense anyway I avoided the issue by not calling them

let me know if you get stuck - just push your config and coce beforehand so I 
can have a look

- Michael
> 
> Thanks!
> Rod
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Re: [Emc-users] Toolchanges

2014-03-26 Thread Mark Wendt 
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jon Elson  wrote:

> On 03/26/2014 04:23 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
> > Getting harder and harder these days to find real tin cans
> > too. String's available, but the reception is really lousy
> > with those new cans.
> We still have one copper wire landline, but it gets scratchy
> when the ground
> is wet.  My business line is now VOIP from Charter Business,
> and it
> sounds like I'm in a recording studio.  Amazing difference.
>
> Jon
>

We got rid of our landline once we changed over to FIOS for our internet
access.  The only reason we had a land line for so long was because we had
DSL into the house.  We're strictly cell phone now.

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[Emc-users] Remapping M6 - change_epilog not called.

2014-03-26 Thread Rod Fitzsimmons Frey 
Hi!  I'm merrily trying to remap M6 using the guidelines at
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/remap/structure.html#_configuring_iocontrol_with_a_remapped_m6.
 I'm trying to use all-python to implement my rack toolchanger.

I have some stuff working - change_epilog in stdglue.py is called, my code
executes and moves the spindle to the correct location for the new tool,
etc. But change_epilog isn't called.  I put a print statement as the first
line in both change_prolog and change_epilog - the former is executed but
the latter is not.

Perhaps as a result of change_epilog not getting called, my current tool is
never changed from -1.  (Although that could be something else if there's a
step I'm missing in my toolchange code.)

My ini file line is
REMAP=M6 modalgroup=6 prolog=change_prolog epilog=change_epilog
py=toolchange

and the epilog signature (unchanged from src) is
def change_epilog(self, **words):

Any advice?

Thanks!
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Re: [Emc-users] Toolchanges

2014-03-26 Thread Jon Elson 
On 03/26/2014 04:23 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
> Getting harder and harder these days to find real tin cans 
> too. String's available, but the reception is really lousy 
> with those new cans.
We still have one copper wire landline, but it gets scratchy 
when the ground
is wet.  My business line is now VOIP from Charter Business, 
and it
sounds like I'm in a recording studio.  Amazing difference.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Toolchanges

2014-03-26 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Wednesday 26 March 2014 07:36:57 Mark Wendt did opine:

> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Dave Cole  
wrote:
> > > Ahh shaddup.  My last cell phone was the economy AT&T that I had
> > > signed
> > 
> > up
> > 
> > > for a 29$ month 200 minute account that I never used more than 10%
> > > of unless I was up in Iron Mountain MI.  Had a keypad.  Did phone &
> > 
> > voicemail.
> > 
> > > But the monthly kept going up and when it got to $109.99 a month I
> > > told them where to stick it and it wasn't on the table of my mill.
> > > ;-)  So
> > 
> > I've
> > 
> > > been cell-less for about 6 months now. Don't miss it a bit.
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Gene
> > 
> > Gene, you are fortunate that you don't have to keep one in your
> > pocket.
> > 
> > Dave
> 
> I'm on call 24/7, and I'm damn glad the days of the pager are long gone.
>  I had to have one of them strapped on my all the time.
> 
> Ever tried to water ski with a pager?
> 
> Mark

I have, back when the pager was king, drowned some of them.  I got to where 
it didn't bither me a bot after a while.  I'd take the battery out, lay it 
up for a week or two, and it was as good as new, which meant it worked 
about half the time.  No pager relay tx in Weston.  If I didn't get the 
page, shrug.  We had a news manager that thought I was his 24/7 slave, made 
the mistake of getting all riled up when I didn't call back in 3 or 4 
minutes.  When I arrived nobody had paged me unless it was somebody in 
news.  Turned out it was the news director, they were out of camera 
batteries.  They had been slowly failing.  I guess he had tried to order a 
dozen (about $1100 worth at the time) and had been turned down because all 
we could afford was a 6 pack at the time, so he didn't order any at all, 
then tried to pass the buck off on me.  We went into his office and closed 
the door while I explained the facts of life to him in very simple 
language. We had never gotten along at all well anyway, so I went up to 
Tims office when I had run down and threw his ass under the buss, with Tim 
interrupting me to ask why it took so long. 6 months later he found a new 
job, out of TV & we all celebrated. 10 years later he manages to get his 
face in front of a camera, and he is just as big a jerk as ever.

Yeah, I remember pagers, biggest pain in the ass ever invented by mankind.  
Cell phones that pocket dial are next.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Toolchanges

2014-03-26 Thread Mark Wendt 
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Jon Elson  wrote:

>
> Except when traveling, I don't have a cell phone either.  My
> wife can't
> be without hers, and she does use it.  But, when you really
> need it,
> it often doesn't work, shouting "can you hear me?" or just
> disconnects.
>
> Jon
>

Getting harder and harder these days to find real tin cans too.  String's
available, but the reception is really lousy with those new cans.

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Re: [Emc-users] Toolchanges

2014-03-26 Thread Mark Wendt 
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Bertho Stultiens wrote:

>
> Having the phone in your pocket would seriously complicate the CNC
> machine from reaching it to send you a message. On the other hand,
> achieving that goal of having the CNC to reach into your pcoket would
> likely draw enough attention to just change the tool while you're at it.
>
>
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>
> (disclaimers are disclaimed)
>


Along with the possible/probable pain issue of the CNC reaching into your
pocket.

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Re: [Emc-users] Toolchanges

2014-03-26 Thread Mark Wendt 
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:

>
>
> > Ahh shaddup.  My last cell phone was the economy AT&T that I had signed
> up
> > for a 29$ month 200 minute account that I never used more than 10% of
> > unless I was up in Iron Mountain MI.  Had a keypad.  Did phone &
> voicemail.
> > But the monthly kept going up and when it got to $109.99 a month I told
> > them where to stick it and it wasn't on the table of my mill. ;-)  So
> I've
> > been cell-less for about 6 months now. Don't miss it a bit.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene
>
> Gene, you are fortunate that you don't have to keep one in your pocket.
>
> Dave
>


I'm on call 24/7, and I'm damn glad the days of the pager are long gone.  I
had to have one of them strapped on my all the time.

Ever tried to water ski with a pager?

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Re: [Emc-users] Toolchanges

2014-03-26 Thread Mark Wendt 
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Gene Heskett  wrote:

>
> > >
> > > No.  To carry this to its logical conclusion, fix the phone to the
> > > table, locate the keys, then lay an 1/8" sheet of rubber over the
> > > phone which will have the side effect of keeping the swarf out of the
> > > keypad, stop the spindle and use the existing tool to dial the phone.
> > >  As long as there is room on the table for the phone, problem solved.
> >
> > C'mon Gene.  Get into the 21st century.  iPhones and Androids don't have
> > keypads.  They're touch pads and already sealed for swarf.  The phone
> > can then be mounted as an offset to the machine's 0 and you can G5x
> > your way to the touchpad...  ;-)
> >
> > Mark
>
> Ahh shaddup.  My last cell phone was the economy AT&T that I had signed up
> for a 29$ month 200 minute account that I never used more than 10% of
> unless I was up in Iron Mountain MI.  Had a keypad.  Did phone & voicemail.
> But the monthly kept going up and when it got to $109.99 a month I told
> them where to stick it and it wasn't on the table of my mill. ;-)  So I've
> been cell-less for about 6 months now. Don't miss it a bit.
>
> Cheers, Gene
>


ROFL!  Them phone mit keypads on 'em are getting harder and harder to
find.  We had a real problem here at work for a while, since they banned
cameras from the installation.  It was getting impossible to find phones
that didn't have a camera.  They finally loosened up that rule a bit and
now we're allowed to bring our phones onto the base again.

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