Re: [Emc-users] Axis Drive Options

2015-08-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 August 2015 at 20:12, John Thornton j...@gnipsel.com wrote:
 I'm looking for some options for driving an axis at a maximum rate of
 3000 IPM across a distance of 8'

Servobelt?

Also, I recently got sent some spam...
http://www.controlsdrivesautomation.com/page_455876.asp

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[Emc-users] Home vs false limits

2015-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
I am trying to write some gcode to carve a reasonable version of the 
spindle locker grizzly wants $90 for.

But since I am using some g92 x0 y0 z0's in order to establish the center 
points of the circles that need cut, I find its impossible to re-run the 
code after stepping to where it miss-behaves, usually with a G2/G3 
error, which forces me to manually re-execute all the motion code up to 
that point from manual entries in the MDI screen.

What I need is the command line to use in the gcode file, right at the 
top, which will reset ALL the co-ordinate systems to the current G53 
(machine) values.  But all my reading of the user manual has not made me 
aware that there may be a gcode to do that.

This call, FWIW, should be a null operation if the machine has not been 
homed.

Is there such a beast?  I am wearing out my new machine with the 

(run it up the post to the orginally homed positions)
g53 g0 x0 y0 z0
(then zero it so the next moves can be absolute)
G92 x0 y0 z0
(run it back to the center point of the currently being cut, circle)
g1 f20 x#_target_x y#_target_y z#_target z
( now, make the next moves all be relative to the current position.
G92 x0 y0 z0

MDI command chain, followed by running it back to where it came from, 
possibly with a different y location when it gets there.

Thanks,

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Re: [Emc-users] Home vs false limits

2015-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 20:28:42 Milosz K. wrote:

 G92.1 will also do this and clear the parameters in which the offsets
 are stored so they are not reloaded next run.

I had that in there, took it out when I couldn't see that it was doing 
anything, but probably should put it back in as I am also seeing a per 
run attempt, growth in the x position offset in the backplot.

Thanks Milosz.

 On Aug 20, 2015 8:11 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  On Thursday 20 August 2015 19:40:10 andy pugh wrote:
   On 21 August 2015 at 00:32, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
What I need is the command line to use in the gcode file, right
at the top, which will reset ALL the co-ordinate systems to the
current G53 (machine) values.
  
   G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 
  I had that line in the file at one point, but still got the phantom
  errors, reporting axis limits are exceeded and it refused to run.
  I'm not, in this code, using more than the default G54 mapping. 
  I'll go put that back in before any moves are commanded  see if its
  what I need.  But I can stop at Z0 as the A is a place holder for
  when I get a decent rotary table  motorize it.
 
   G10 L2 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
   G10 L2 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
   G10 L2 P4 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
   G10 L2 P5 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
   G10 L2 P6 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
   G10 L2 P7 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
   G10 L2 P8 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
   G10 L2 P9 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  
   Somehow I suspect that you don't really want  to do what you think
   you want to do.
 
  All I am trying to do is draw a pair of circles whose geometric
  centers differ in the Y axis.  Usually thats all it takes to make
  the output of arcbuddy.py 100% usable. But not this time it seems.
 
  Thanks Andy
 
  Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Home vs false limits

2015-08-20 Thread Milosz K.
G92.1 will also do this and clear the parameters in which the offsets are
stored so they are not reloaded next run.
On Aug 20, 2015 8:11 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Thursday 20 August 2015 19:40:10 andy pugh wrote:

  On 21 August 2015 at 00:32, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   What I need is the command line to use in the gcode file, right at
   the top, which will reset ALL the co-ordinate systems to the current
   G53 (machine) values.
 
  G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0

 I had that line in the file at one point, but still got the phantom
 errors, reporting axis limits are exceeded and it refused to run.
 I'm not, in this code, using more than the default G54 mapping.  I'll go
 put that back in before any moves are commanded  see if its what I
 need.  But I can stop at Z0 as the A is a place holder for when I get a
 decent rotary table  motorize it.


  G10 L2 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  G10 L2 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  G10 L2 P4 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  G10 L2 P5 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  G10 L2 P6 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  G10 L2 P7 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  G10 L2 P8 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  G10 L2 P9 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 
  Somehow I suspect that you don't really want  to do what you think you
  want to do.

 All I am trying to do is draw a pair of circles whose geometric centers
 differ in the Y axis.  Usually thats all it takes to make the output of
 arcbuddy.py 100% usable. But not this time it seems.

 Thanks Andy

 Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Home vs false limits

2015-08-20 Thread andy pugh
On 21 August 2015 at 00:32, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 What I need is the command line to use in the gcode file, right at the
 top, which will reset ALL the co-ordinate systems to the current G53
 (machine) values.

G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P4 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P5 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P6 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P7 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P8 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P9 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0

Somehow I suspect that you don't really want  to do what you think you
want to do.

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Re: [Emc-users] Home vs false limits

2015-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 19:40:10 andy pugh wrote:

 On 21 August 2015 at 00:32, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  What I need is the command line to use in the gcode file, right at
  the top, which will reset ALL the co-ordinate systems to the current
  G53 (machine) values.

 G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0

I had that line in the file at one point, but still got the phantom 
errors, reporting axis limits are exceeded and it refused to run.
I'm not, in this code, using more than the default G54 mapping.  I'll go 
put that back in before any moves are commanded  see if its what I 
need.  But I can stop at Z0 as the A is a place holder for when I get a 
decent rotary table  motorize it.


 G10 L2 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P4 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P5 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P6 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P7 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P8 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P9 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0

 Somehow I suspect that you don't really want  to do what you think you
 want to do.

All I am trying to do is draw a pair of circles whose geometric centers 
differ in the Y axis.  Usually thats all it takes to make the output of 
arcbuddy.py 100% usable. But not this time it seems.

Thanks Andy

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Home vs false limits

2015-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 19:40:10 andy pugh wrote:

 On 21 August 2015 at 00:32, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  What I need is the command line to use in the gcode file, right at
  the top, which will reset ALL the co-ordinate systems to the current
  G53 (machine) values.

 G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P4 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P5 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P6 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P7 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P8 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
 G10 L2 P9 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0

 Somehow I suspect that you don't really want  to do what you think you
 want to do.

There are 2 oword WHILE loops in this program.
Each has an obypass test so the whole thing will be skipped while I 
troubleshoot the other.

The machine has beem homed and is sitting at a DRO reading of x0 y0 z0 on 
entry to the program.  Thats near the center of the xy travels, and 
about an inch down from the top of the post.

Inside the IF for each loop, is a
G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 (to restore the homed co-ords to G54)
G92 X0 Y0 Z0 (to make sure its not off a 0.0001)

G1 F40 x(center of workpiece) y(offset to put tool at center of THIS 
circle) Z-8.828 (which is about 5 thou above the top surface of the 
workpiece as presently mounted)

G92 x0 y0 z0 (subsequent motions s/b absolute moves from the present 
location as it has moved by the line above)

Next move is a g1 f10 z-0.025

Error is move exceeds negative limit on axis 2  The machine is sitting 
at the homed position nearly 9 up the post and the DRO says everything 
is at 0,0,0,0.  But while I can move it anyplace in its envelope, the 
code can't lower it 25 thou? ? ? 

Since it doesn't physicly exceed the negative limit, and I can then run 
it by hand, downward at least another 1.25 by the time I hit the 
minimumas set in the ini file for axis 2, I have no other choice but to 
believe that the interpreter is NOT checking the present position 
against the value in the machines own G53 map.  No clue what its 
checking with, but the .ini files limits are not being hit.

I can put this file, messy as it is because I've now been fighting with 
this for 2 full days now, on my web page if someone else wants to swing 
a mad cat, or a 4 foot oak 2x2 at me.

Its on the Mill-stf page as 'make_spndle_lock.ngc' at the address in the 
sig.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC

2015-08-20 Thread John Prentice (FS)
John

The PathPilot GPL source is available on DVD. 

Mail a $10 check to: 
 
GPL Compliance Division
Tormach Inc.
1071 Uniek Drive
Waunakee, WI 53597999
 
Please write Source Code for Machine Controller Software in the memo line of 
your payment.

I think the handling charge above is still correct but you might like to 
confirm this with i...@tormach.com

John Prentice

-Original Message-
From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] 
Sent: 20 August 2015 17:02
To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC

It's only a surprise if they release 'their' version of what is Open Source 
Software LinuxCNC to the rest of the world.  Which I suspect they won't so it's 
really just a marketing ploy.

John


 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Cole [mailto:linuxcncro...@gmail.com]
 Sent: August-20-15 7:25 AM
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC

2015-08-20 Thread Dave Cole

I'm surprised that they are surprised!  :-)

Dave


On 8/19/2015 5:04 PM, Bruce Layne wrote:
 Tormach expected PathPilot, their extended version of LinuxCNC, to be an
 improvement but they're apparently surprised that a few things are even
 better than they expected.

 http://www.tormach.com/blog/6-things-we-didnt-expect-pathpilot

 Many of these are a reprise of the power of open source software.

 I'm not surprised.  :-)






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Re: [Emc-users] Home vs false limits

2015-08-20 Thread Milosz K.
Gene,

What are your axis limits as set in the INI file?

2015-08-20 22:15 GMT-04:00 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com:

 On Thursday 20 August 2015 20:28:42 Milosz K. wrote:

  G92.1 will also do this and clear the parameters in which the offsets
  are stored so they are not reloaded next run.
 
 I had that in there, took it out when I couldn't see that it was doing
 anything, but probably should put it back in as I am also seeing a per
 run attempt, growth in the x position offset in the backplot.

 Thanks Milosz.

  On Aug 20, 2015 8:11 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   On Thursday 20 August 2015 19:40:10 andy pugh wrote:
On 21 August 2015 at 00:32, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 What I need is the command line to use in the gcode file, right
 at the top, which will reset ALL the co-ordinate systems to the
 current G53 (machine) values.
   
G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
  
   I had that line in the file at one point, but still got the phantom
   errors, reporting axis limits are exceeded and it refused to run.
   I'm not, in this code, using more than the default G54 mapping.
   I'll go put that back in before any moves are commanded  see if its
   what I need.  But I can stop at Z0 as the A is a place holder for
   when I get a decent rotary table  motorize it.
  
G10 L2 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P4 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P5 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P6 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P7 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P8 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
G10 L2 P9 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0
   
Somehow I suspect that you don't really want  to do what you think
you want to do.
  
   All I am trying to do is draw a pair of circles whose geometric
   centers differ in the Y axis.  Usually thats all it takes to make
   the output of arcbuddy.py 100% usable. But not this time it seems.
  
   Thanks Andy
  
   Cheers, Gene Heskett
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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Re: [Emc-users] Axis Drive Options

2015-08-20 Thread Dave Cole
Hi John,

I would first consider belts - more practically steel reinforced 
urethane timing belts made specifically for linear motion. (Perhaps they 
have Kevlar or Aramid now also..)
I'd contact Gates Belts.   They have a free engineering service that 
will take in all of your information and spit out some recommendations.
There are some belt profiles designed specifically for linear motion 
drives.   I think they are called the AX profiles, but I may have that 
wrong.  The Gates guys would know.

I've seen belts used in auto plants to transfer heavy transmissions 
parts and castings using linear belt drives at ridiculous speeds inside 
of cages (in case the parts come loose) - 24x7.

I have also seen them used in press loaders that shuttle the parts so 
fast, that they are difficult to see.

If they are properly sized they run for a very long time before 
requiring maintenance.

Dave

On 8/20/2015 3:12 PM, John Thornton wrote:
 I'm looking for some options for driving an axis at a maximum rate of
 3000 IPM across a distance of 8' for the metric crowd that's 75
 meters/minute for 2.5 meters. I don't need very accurate position and
 there are no cutting loads sorta like a big plasma gantry upside down. I
 do need encoder feedback to fire solenoids on the fly at various
 intervals. I'm thinking a jack shaft with either chains or belts to move
 the axis.

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Re: [Emc-users] Axis Drive Options

2015-08-20 Thread John Thornton
Yea, I do prefer timing belts and used that on my plasma that goes up to 
600 IPM on Nema 23 steppers. I did under size them at first for the X 
axis. Good thing precision is not an issue so I don't have to use the 
round tooth (expensive) belts the square tooth belts are good enough for 
this application.

On 8/20/2015 3:15 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
 Hi John,

 I would first consider belts - more practically steel reinforced
 urethane timing belts made specifically for linear motion. (Perhaps they
 have Kevlar or Aramid now also..)
 I'd contact Gates Belts.   They have a free engineering service that
 will take in all of your information and spit out some recommendations.
 There are some belt profiles designed specifically for linear motion
 drives.   I think they are called the AX profiles, but I may have that
 wrong.  The Gates guys would know.

 I've seen belts used in auto plants to transfer heavy transmissions
 parts and castings using linear belt drives at ridiculous speeds inside
 of cages (in case the parts come loose) - 24x7.

 I have also seen them used in press loaders that shuttle the parts so
 fast, that they are difficult to see.

 If they are properly sized they run for a very long time before
 requiring maintenance.

 Dave

 On 8/20/2015 3:12 PM, John Thornton wrote:
 I'm looking for some options for driving an axis at a maximum rate of
 3000 IPM across a distance of 8' for the metric crowd that's 75
 meters/minute for 2.5 meters. I don't need very accurate position and
 there are no cutting loads sorta like a big plasma gantry upside down. I
 do need encoder feedback to fire solenoids on the fly at various
 intervals. I'm thinking a jack shaft with either chains or belts to move
 the axis.

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Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC

2015-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:25:06 Dave Cole wrote:

 I'm surprised that they are surprised!  :-)

 Dave

It is a semi-std advertising gimick I have seen before.

I do think the gfx interface is nice.  Obviously laid out for touch 
screens not all of us have. The only 2 I have are ancient grocery store 
POS units  I've no clue how to interface that with linux.

 On 8/19/2015 5:04 PM, Bruce Layne wrote:
  Tormach expected PathPilot, their extended version of LinuxCNC, to
  be an improvement but they're apparently surprised that a few things
  are even better than they expected.
 
  http://www.tormach.com/blog/6-things-we-didnt-expect-pathpilot
 
  Many of these are a reprise of the power of open source software.
 
  I'm not surprised.  :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC

2015-08-20 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I have some old grocery store touch screens that linux configures on boot
and they just run.

I even have a couple that work on boot prior to any operating system
starting.

I suggest you try them. If they are USB they likely will work without any
effort on your part.


On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:25:06 Dave Cole wrote:

  I'm surprised that they are surprised!  :-)
 
  Dave

 It is a semi-std advertising gimick I have seen before.

 I do think the gfx interface is nice.  Obviously laid out for touch
 screens not all of us have. The only 2 I have are ancient grocery store
 POS units  I've no clue how to interface that with linux.
 
  On 8/19/2015 5:04 PM, Bruce Layne wrote:
   Tormach expected PathPilot, their extended version of LinuxCNC, to
   be an improvement but they're apparently surprised that a few things
   are even better than they expected.
  
   http://www.tormach.com/blog/6-things-we-didnt-expect-pathpilot
  
   Many of these are a reprise of the power of open source software.
  
   I'm not surprised.  :-)
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC

2015-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 August 2015 11:17:55 Stuart Stevenson wrote:

 I have some old grocery store touch screens that linux configures on
 boot and they just run.

 I even have a couple that work on boot prior to any operating system
 starting.

 I suggest you try them. If they are USB they likely will work without
 any effort on your part.

Both of these, from what I've looked at with a scope, appear to be rs232 
based, at about 9600 baud when I measure a bit time.  The latest 
purchase is an LCD, and has a home on a legacy computer in the basement.
The other is a 20 yo crt, with a db9 output that if I checked the baud 
rate, its been forgotten because it was a decade ago.

I should look at fleabay  see if they have any more, preferably in a 22 
tv screen format like I am using on the new mill.  Samsung tv, with a 
failed tuner, still a good monitor though.

 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com 
wrote:
  On Thursday 20 August 2015 10:25:06 Dave Cole wrote:
   I'm surprised that they are surprised!  :-)
  
   Dave
 
  It is a semi-std advertising gimick I have seen before.
 
  I do think the gfx interface is nice.  Obviously laid out for touch
  screens not all of us have. The only 2 I have are ancient grocery
  store POS units  I've no clue how to interface that with linux.
 
   On 8/19/2015 5:04 PM, Bruce Layne wrote:
Tormach expected PathPilot, their extended version of LinuxCNC,
to be an improvement but they're apparently surprised that a few
things are even better than they expected.
   
http://www.tormach.com/blog/6-things-we-didnt-expect-pathpilot
   
Many of these are a reprise of the power of open source
software.
   
I'm not surprised.  :-)
   
   
   
   
   
   

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[Emc-users] Axis Drive Options

2015-08-20 Thread John Thornton
I'm looking for some options for driving an axis at a maximum rate of 
3000 IPM across a distance of 8' for the metric crowd that's 75 
meters/minute for 2.5 meters. I don't need very accurate position and 
there are no cutting loads sorta like a big plasma gantry upside down. I 
do need encoder feedback to fire solenoids on the fly at various 
intervals. I'm thinking a jack shaft with either chains or belts to move 
the axis.

JT

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Re: [Emc-users] Axis Drive Options

2015-08-20 Thread John Thornton
Acceleration needs to be 10-20 times maximum velocity I'd think. 
Actually the gantry will be about 100 lbs as a rough estimate.

JT

On 8/20/2015 2:29 PM, Jim Craig wrote:
 On 8/20/2015 2:12 PM, John Thornton wrote:
 I'm looking for some options for driving an axis at a maximum rate of
 3000 IPM across a distance of 8' for the metric crowd that's 75
 meters/minute for 2.5 meters. I don't need very accurate position and
 there are no cutting loads sorta like a big plasma gantry upside down. I
 do need encoder feedback to fire solenoids on the fly at various
 intervals. I'm thinking a jack shaft with either chains or belts to move
 the axis.
 Maglev, HA, just kidding!

 I have chains driving my router. It works pretty good but it is no where
 near that fast. How fast are you going to accelerate? If the gantry
 weighs very much the acceleration/deceleration forces will be pretty large.

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Re: [Emc-users] Axis Drive Options

2015-08-20 Thread Jim Craig
On 8/20/2015 2:12 PM, John Thornton wrote:
 I'm looking for some options for driving an axis at a maximum rate of
 3000 IPM across a distance of 8' for the metric crowd that's 75
 meters/minute for 2.5 meters. I don't need very accurate position and
 there are no cutting loads sorta like a big plasma gantry upside down. I
 do need encoder feedback to fire solenoids on the fly at various
 intervals. I'm thinking a jack shaft with either chains or belts to move
 the axis.
Maglev, HA, just kidding!

I have chains driving my router. It works pretty good but it is no where 
near that fast. How fast are you going to accelerate? If the gantry 
weighs very much the acceleration/deceleration forces will be pretty large.

Jim


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Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC

2015-08-20 Thread John Dammeyer
It's only a surprise if they release 'their' version of what is Open Source
Software LinuxCNC to the rest of the world.  Which I suspect they won't so
it's really just a marketing ploy.

John


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 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tormach's Unexpected Benefits Of LinuxCNC
 
 
 
 I'm surprised that they are surprised!  :-)
 
 Dave
 
 
 On 8/19/2015 5:04 PM, Bruce Layne wrote:
  Tormach expected PathPilot, their extended version of LinuxCNC, to be an
  improvement but they're apparently surprised that a few things are even
  better than they expected.
 
  http://www.tormach.com/blog/6-things-we-didnt-expect-pathpilot
 
  Many of these are a reprise of the power of open source software.
 
  I'm not surprised.  :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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