[Emc-users] WeTransfer? Anybody know anything about them?

2019-01-26 Thread Roland Jollivet 
Hi Gene

Do you want to look at these two manuals? There might be useful info as in
similarities;

https://hobbytronics.co.za/Content/external/1159/YL%20Manual.pdf
https://hobbytronics.co.za/Content/external/1159/vfd.pdf

Otherwise, find your same drive sold by a 'reputable' outlet in the USA or
UK, then download the manual from their site.





On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 05:46, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Saturday 26 January 2019 20:39:39 Chris Albertson wrote:
>
> > Try Google Translate.  It is not completely bad with Chinese to
> > English.
>
> Might not be, but does it properly scale ther text to fit the graphic its
> wrapped around? Without that, likely waste of time.
>
> Besides, I've given up an direct drive, so I'll see if I can make an old
> cnc4pc C41 run it tomorrow. That will mean I'm rummaging thru the stack
> of old printouts about 4" high in the shop to find that one.  It was one
> of those things I tried on TLM before I gave up and tossed the OEM and
> bought one of Jon E's pwm-servo amps to drive that bigger spindle motor.
> 2nd best thing I ever did for TLM, best was the tapered gibs.
>
> If I can find that printout, it oughtta be a piece of cake.
>
> > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:32 PM Gene Heskett 
> wrote:
> > > On Saturday 26 January 2019 20:07:31 Dale Ertley via Emc-users wrote:
> > > >  Gene,
> > > > Watch out for embedded trash in the download before you move it to
> > > > a good computer.  Or just print out the info from the USB booted
> > > > computer.
> > > > Dale
> > >
> > > I finally gave up and clicked the accept button, but now somebody
> > > wants to buy a big huwai smartphne from amazon, charged to my
> > > account. Tain't gonna happen.
> > >
> > > There doesn't appear to be anything except in the VFD manual, its
> > > still 95% chinese, in a docx format. Even the newest
> > > LibreOffice-6.1.4 screws that up, generally rendering it as
> > > gibberish.
> > >
> > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 7:59:42 PM EST, Dale Ertley via
> > > > Emc-users  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   Gene,
> > > > Will this work for you?
> > > > Do you have an old used computer with only linux operating system
> > > > on it?  NO INFORMATION. wipe drive
> > > > Or boot from a new USB jump drive with only linux CNC operating
> > > > system. Link to that with a NEW EMAIL address from google/yahoo.
> > > > Then delete it. Dale
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 12:57:21 AM EST, Gene Heskett
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  On Friday 25 January 2019 22:25:56 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > > > > It's just a download link.  Why would you need to install any
> > > > > software on your machine other than a web browser  It appears
> > > > > that they don't.
> > > > > I just sent you a file.  Don't worry it's OK.
> > > >
> > > > And the actual email from them gives spamassassin a tummy ache,
> > > > scoreing 6.6 from a multitude of sins,
> > > >
> > > > > Of course I could have attached it to this email but what if it
> > > > > was a 10GB file?  That is what this service is for, sending
> > > > > stuff you can't email.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:31 PM Gene Heskett
> > > > > 
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Greetings;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The seller claims he has obtained the english docx file from
> > > > > > the maker, all; 5 that go with the machine. But he sent them
> > > > > > to me by way of WeTransfer, and WeTransfer is holding them
> > > > > > hostage until I let their site install whatever the heck they
> > > > > > want to onto my machine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I emailed him back and said that wasn't going to happen, find
> > > > > > a way to put them on a cd or something &  mail to my shipping
> > > > > > address.  No further word.
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > --
> > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > > Genes Web page 
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Genes Web page 
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] WeTransfer? Anybody know anything about them?

2019-01-26 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Saturday 26 January 2019 20:39:39 Chris Albertson wrote:

> Try Google Translate.  It is not completely bad with Chinese to
> English.

Might not be, but does it properly scale ther text to fit the graphic its 
wrapped around? Without that, likely waste of time.

Besides, I've given up an direct drive, so I'll see if I can make an old 
cnc4pc C41 run it tomorrow. That will mean I'm rummaging thru the stack 
of old printouts about 4" high in the shop to find that one.  It was one 
of those things I tried on TLM before I gave up and tossed the OEM and 
bought one of Jon E's pwm-servo amps to drive that bigger spindle motor. 
2nd best thing I ever did for TLM, best was the tapered gibs.

If I can find that printout, it oughtta be a piece of cake.

> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:32 PM Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > On Saturday 26 January 2019 20:07:31 Dale Ertley via Emc-users wrote:
> > >  Gene,
> > > Watch out for embedded trash in the download before you move it to
> > > a good computer.  Or just print out the info from the USB booted
> > > computer.
> > > Dale
> >
> > I finally gave up and clicked the accept button, but now somebody
> > wants to buy a big huwai smartphne from amazon, charged to my
> > account. Tain't gonna happen.
> >
> > There doesn't appear to be anything except in the VFD manual, its
> > still 95% chinese, in a docx format. Even the newest
> > LibreOffice-6.1.4 screws that up, generally rendering it as
> > gibberish.
> >
> > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 7:59:42 PM EST, Dale Ertley via
> > > Emc-users  wrote:
> > >
> > >   Gene,
> > > Will this work for you?
> > > Do you have an old used computer with only linux operating system
> > > on it?  NO INFORMATION. wipe drive
> > > Or boot from a new USB jump drive with only linux CNC operating
> > > system. Link to that with a NEW EMAIL address from google/yahoo.
> > > Then delete it. Dale
> > >
> > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 12:57:21 AM EST, Gene Heskett
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >  On Friday 25 January 2019 22:25:56 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > > > It's just a download link.  Why would you need to install any
> > > > software on your machine other than a web browser  It appears
> > > > that they don't.
> > > > I just sent you a file.  Don't worry it's OK.
> > >
> > > And the actual email from them gives spamassassin a tummy ache,
> > > scoreing 6.6 from a multitude of sins,
> > >
> > > > Of course I could have attached it to this email but what if it
> > > > was a 10GB file?  That is what this service is for, sending
> > > > stuff you can't email.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:31 PM Gene Heskett
> > > > 
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Greetings;
> > > > >
> > > > > The seller claims he has obtained the english docx file from
> > > > > the maker, all; 5 that go with the machine. But he sent them
> > > > > to me by way of WeTransfer, and WeTransfer is holding them
> > > > > hostage until I let their site install whatever the heck they
> > > > > want to onto my machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > I emailed him back and said that wasn't going to happen, find
> > > > > a way to put them on a cd or something &  mail to my shipping
> > > > > address.  No further word.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > Genes Web page 
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] WeTransfer? Anybody know anything about them?

2019-01-26 Thread Chris Albertson 
Try Google Translate.  It is not completely bad with Chinese to English.

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:32 PM Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Saturday 26 January 2019 20:07:31 Dale Ertley via Emc-users wrote:
>
> >  Gene,
> > Watch out for embedded trash in the download before you move it to a
> > good computer.  Or just print out the info from the USB booted
> > computer.
> > Dale
>
> I finally gave up and clicked the accept button, but now somebody wants
> to buy a big huwai smartphne from amazon, charged to my account. Tain't
> gonna happen.
>
> There doesn't appear to be anything except in the VFD manual, its still
> 95% chinese, in a docx format. Even the newest LibreOffice-6.1.4 screws
> that up, generally rendering it as gibberish.
>
> > On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 7:59:42 PM EST, Dale Ertley via
> > Emc-users  wrote:
> >
> >   Gene,
> > Will this work for you?
> > Do you have an old used computer with only linux operating system on
> > it?  NO INFORMATION. wipe drive
> > Or boot from a new USB jump drive with only linux CNC operating
> > system. Link to that with a NEW EMAIL address from google/yahoo. Then
> > delete it. Dale
> >
> > On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 12:57:21 AM EST, Gene Heskett
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  On Friday 25 January 2019 22:25:56 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > > It's just a download link.  Why would you need to install any
> > > software on your machine other than a web browser  It appears that
> > > they don't.
> > > I just sent you a file.  Don't worry it's OK.
> >
> > And the actual email from them gives spamassassin a tummy ache,
> > scoreing 6.6 from a multitude of sins,
> >
> > > Of course I could have attached it to this email but what if it was
> > > a 10GB file?  That is what this service is for, sending stuff you
> > > can't email.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:31 PM Gene Heskett 
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > Greetings;
> > > >
> > > > The seller claims he has obtained the english docx file from the
> > > > maker, all; 5 that go with the machine. But he sent them to me by
> > > > way of WeTransfer, and WeTransfer is holding them hostage until I
> > > > let their site install whatever the heck they want to onto my
> > > > machine.
> > > >
> > > > I emailed him back and said that wasn't going to happen, find a
> > > > way to put them on a cd or something &  mail to my shipping
> > > > address.  No further word.
> [...]
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Genes Web page 
>
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] WeTransfer? Anybody know anything about them?

2019-01-26 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Saturday 26 January 2019 20:07:31 Dale Ertley via Emc-users wrote:

>  Gene,
> Watch out for embedded trash in the download before you move it to a
> good computer.  Or just print out the info from the USB booted
> computer.
> Dale

I finally gave up and clicked the accept button, but now somebody wants 
to buy a big huwai smartphne from amazon, charged to my account. Tain't 
gonna happen.

There doesn't appear to be anything except in the VFD manual, its still 
95% chinese, in a docx format. Even the newest LibreOffice-6.1.4 screws 
that up, generally rendering it as gibberish.

> On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 7:59:42 PM EST, Dale Ertley via
> Emc-users  wrote:
>
>   Gene,
> Will this work for you?
> Do you have an old used computer with only linux operating system on
> it?  NO INFORMATION. wipe drive
> Or boot from a new USB jump drive with only linux CNC operating
> system. Link to that with a NEW EMAIL address from google/yahoo. Then
> delete it. Dale
>
>     On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 12:57:21 AM EST, Gene Heskett
>  wrote: 
>
>  On Friday 25 January 2019 22:25:56 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > It's just a download link.  Why would you need to install any
> > software on your machine other than a web browser  It appears that
> > they don't.
> > I just sent you a file.  Don't worry it's OK.
>
> And the actual email from them gives spamassassin a tummy ache,
> scoreing 6.6 from a multitude of sins,
>
> > Of course I could have attached it to this email but what if it was
> > a 10GB file?  That is what this service is for, sending stuff you
> > can't email.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:31 PM Gene Heskett 
>
> wrote:
> > > Greetings;
> > >
> > > The seller claims he has obtained the english docx file from the
> > > maker, all; 5 that go with the machine. But he sent them to me by
> > > way of WeTransfer, and WeTransfer is holding them hostage until I
> > > let their site install whatever the heck they want to onto my
> > > machine.
> > >
> > > I emailed him back and said that wasn't going to happen, find a
> > > way to put them on a cd or something &  mail to my shipping
> > > address.  No further word.
[...]

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] WeTransfer? Anybody know anything about them?

2019-01-26 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Saturday 26 January 2019 20:07:31 Dale Ertley via Emc-users wrote:

>  Gene,
> Watch out for embedded trash in the download before you move it to a
> good computer.  Or just print out the info from the USB booted
> computer.
> Dale
> On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 7:59:42 PM EST, Dale Ertley via
> Emc-users  wrote:
>
>   Gene,
> Will this work for you?
> Do you have an old used computer with only linux operating system on
> it?  NO INFORMATION. wipe drive
> Or boot from a new USB jump drive with only linux CNC operating
> system. Link to that with a NEW EMAIL address from google/yahoo. Then
> delete it. Dale
>
>     On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 12:57:21 AM EST, Gene Heskett
>  wrote: 
>
>  On Friday 25 January 2019 22:25:56 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > It's just a download link.  Why would you need to install any
> > software on your machine other than a web browser  It appears that
> > they don't.
> > I just sent you a file.  Don't worry it's OK.
>
> And the actual email from them gives spamassassin a tummy ache,
> scoreing 6.6 from a multitude of sins,
>
> > Of course I could have attached it to this email but what if it was
> > a 10GB file?  That is what this service is for, sending stuff you
> > can't email.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:31 PM Gene Heskett 
>
> wrote:
> > > Greetings;
> > >
> > > The seller claims he has obtained the english docx file from the
> > > maker, all; 5 that go with the machine. But he sent them to me by
> > > way of WeTransfer, and WeTransfer is holding them hostage until I
> > > let their site install whatever the heck they want to onto my
> > > machine.
> > >
> > > I emailed him back and said that wasn't going to happen, find a
> > > way to put them on a cd or something &  mail to my shipping
> > > address.  No further word.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > --
> > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > > Genes Web page 
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] 1.5 kw vfd in 6040 problems

2019-01-26 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Thursday 24 January 2019 23:06:40 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Thursday 24 January 2019 21:52:23 Jon Elson wrote:
> > On Thursday 24 January 2019 08:41:47 Todd Zuercher wrote:
> > >> I have a fair amount of experience with high speed spindles.  And
> > >> I've found that most are incapable of running much below about
> > >> 1/3 of their rated speed for any length of time, and cutting
> > >> anything at those speeds is certainly out of the question.  If
> > >> you don't believe me, start your 18k rpm spindle at 4000rpm and
> > >> then check the current readout display on the VFD, and you will
> > >> be shocked at what numbers you see displayed (I'd venture a guess
> > >> that it would be close to about 200% of rated amps on the motor
> > >> name plate).
> >
> > This would indicate the Volts/Hz ratio is not set right.
> > This might make the spindle accelerate better, but if set up
> > properly, you should not see excessive current at low
> > speeds.  Some drives have multiple breakpoints, so the V/Hz
> > curve can have multiple slopes between those points.
> >
> > We have a really off-brand mill at work that has an 18000
> > RPM spindle.  You can run it all day at 1000 RPM with no
> > heating.  It really lacks torque at all speeds, obviously
> > designed for high speed, but won't burn anything up.
> >
> > Jon
>
> I found some programing info that made it work, but just one more
> problem leads to another and I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever find
> the last one. I hadn't noticed it was running backwards, and that
> wiring was 100% OEM.  So tonight I opened the box again to reverse two
> of the motor wires.  But while in there I decided to put the box on a
> diet as its about 40 lbs.  So I got rid of the 4 TB6560 drivers, and a
> surprisingly heavy power supply that ran them, leaving just the vfd,
> the breakout, and a smallish fan.  Got it all back together and found
> the fan was quiet. Seems it was plugged into the BoB which was plugged
> into the PSU I took out. Ooops! The PSU I took out must have been
> running in foldback as it was  making 14 volts when I checked it with
> all steppers powered up, but it was marked 24 volts at not enough
> current for 4 steppers when I finally uncovered the label. So I gave
> up for the night, not finding a psu to run the fan with. I have some
> boosters on order, and a small 5 volt supply I can put back in it to
> run the booster to get something like 25 volts to run the fan. Then
> see if I can make reverse work, once I get it turning the right
> direction. Theres a couple registers in it that might control that, or
> I may have to fiddle with my hal. It clearly has a control terminal
> labeled REV so I am determined to make it work.
>
> The right sized 4mm mills came in today, so once it spins the right
> direction, I'll go get me a spoil board and carve the panels for 2 new
> control boxes.  Then I'll have enough I/O to put some home and limit
> switches on it.
>
> Mechanically this machine is very solid, backlash a thou or less, and
> with 28 solid volts for the motors, is easily running 100 ipm for
> rapids. And this is with software stepping! I think I'm going to like
> it except for the 3" Z range. I'd like 6 so I could do some real
> carving...
>
> Thanks Jon.

Currently running it in manual mode, so I practiced on the spoil board. 
finding the actual cuts were oversized by using G42 when I should have 
been using g41. But that seems to expose a problem when the circular cut 
its to make, is smaller than the tool diameter. All I want to do is 
drive the tool to drill a hole around 30 thou bigger than the tool. What 
I wanted was a climb, or "chopping into" cut all the way around.

Why can't I drill a .209" diameter hole with a 4mm (.157") tool?

=
I've about give up on controlling this VFD with a pwmgen directly as I 
have no way to step the 5 volt pwm up to a 10 volt pwm.

Its obvious the thing needs 10 volt signals and logic level stuffs just 
won't cut it, so I've rummaged around and found an old, old cnc4pc C41 
board. It looks as if I might be able to make it work.  I'll see what I 
can hack up tomorrow but I wish I had the OEM docs, cnc4pc has replaced 
it with a new C41s and I doubt its exactly the same.  This one develops 
the FWD signal, relay isolated, from the presence of the PWM, so has 
only a 3 wire control, ground, pwm, and reverse which is also relay 
isolated. And looks to have 2 places where +10, or +12 can be applied, 
but the - legs aren't common. So I'd better rummage in the shop and see 
if I can find the original printouts.

Progress, but frustatingly slowly. Now why can't I drill that hole?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] WeTransfer? Anybody know anything about them?

2019-01-26 Thread Dale Ertley via Emc-users 
 Gene,
Watch out for embedded trash in the download before you move it to a good 
computer. 
Or just print out the info from the USB booted computer.
Dale
On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 7:59:42 PM EST, Dale Ertley via Emc-users 
 wrote:  
 
  Gene,
Will this work for you?
Do you have an old used computer with only linux operating system on it? 
NO INFORMATION. wipe drive
Or boot from a new USB jump drive with only linux CNC operating system.
Link to that with a NEW EMAIL address from google/yahoo. Then delete it.
Dale

    On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 12:57:21 AM EST, Gene Heskett 
 wrote:  
 
 On Friday 25 January 2019 22:25:56 Chris Albertson wrote:

> It's just a download link.  Why would you need to install any
> software on your machine other than a web browser  It appears that
> they don't.
> I just sent you a file.  Don't worry it's OK.

And the actual email from them gives spamassassin a tummy ache, scoreing 
6.6 from a multitude of sins,
>
> Of course I could have attached it to this email but what if it was a
> 10GB file?  That is what this service is for, sending stuff you can't
> email.
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:31 PM Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > Greetings;
> >
> > The seller claims he has obtained the english docx file from the
> > maker, all; 5 that go with the machine. But he sent them to me by
> > way of WeTransfer, and WeTransfer is holding them hostage until I
> > let their site install whatever the heck they want to onto my
> > machine.
> >
> > I emailed him back and said that wasn't going to happen, find a way
> > to put them on a cd or something &  mail to my shipping address.  No
> > further word.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > Genes Web page 
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] WeTransfer? Anybody know anything about them?

2019-01-26 Thread Dale Ertley via Emc-users 
 Gene,
Will this work for you?
Do you have an old used computer with only linux operating system on it? 
NO INFORMATION. wipe drive
Or boot from a new USB jump drive with only linux CNC operating system.
Link to that with a NEW EMAIL address from google/yahoo. Then delete it.
Dale

On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 12:57:21 AM EST, Gene Heskett 
 wrote:  
 
 On Friday 25 January 2019 22:25:56 Chris Albertson wrote:

> It's just a download link.  Why would you need to install any
> software on your machine other than a web browser  It appears that
> they don't.
> I just sent you a file.  Don't worry it's OK.

And the actual email from them gives spamassassin a tummy ache, scoreing 
6.6 from a multitude of sins,
>
> Of course I could have attached it to this email but what if it was a
> 10GB file?  That is what this service is for, sending stuff you can't
> email.
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:31 PM Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > Greetings;
> >
> > The seller claims he has obtained the english docx file from the
> > maker, all; 5 that go with the machine. But he sent them to me by
> > way of WeTransfer, and WeTransfer is holding them hostage until I
> > let their site install whatever the heck they want to onto my
> > machine.
> >
> > I emailed him back and said that wasn't going to happen, find a way
> > to put them on a cd or something &  mail to my shipping address.  No
> > further word.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > Genes Web page 
> >
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[Emc-users] so much for wetransfer

2019-01-26 Thread Gene Heskett 
My amazon account was just hacked to buy somebody a new high dollar 
smartphone.

Strange thing though, none of the links in the msg I just spotted in my 
spam folder, are for amazon, all feed back to some outfit called 
theblueguitar.com.

The only mention of amazon is in the displayed from address.

I wonder how many idijits will click on the "if this isn't you
link" and give them the rest of the info to actually buy it?


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Nice manual lathe in WA (assume WA USA not WA AU)

2019-01-26 Thread Jon Elson 

On 01/25/2019 11:39 PM, andy pugh wrote:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/picton/miscellaneous-goods/metal-working-lathe/1202880018?utm_source=Gmail_medium=social_campaign=socialbuttons_content=app_android

Holbrook H20 / H17 at a guess. Absolutely top class lathe. Maybe the best,
I would be interested to hear of other candidates in that envelope. DSG
obviously. Graziano might be in with a shout. The USA folk are probably
shouting "Monarch" though this is a bit bigger.

There's also the late Sheldon R-series.  It has a whole 
BUNCH of features to improve the quality of the work.  So, 
the spindle gearbox is in the pedestal, and the only gears 
in the headstock are for the backgear.  The spindle is 
driven by triple matched belts, to keep gear vibration out 
of the headstock.  The input pulley is coaxial to the 
spindle, but does not run ON the spindle, it has its own set 
of bearings in the headstock, so as to not impart any 
vibration to the spindle.  It drives the spindle (in high 
speed mode) through a pair of hand-lapped drive dogs, so as 
to not put an imbalanced torque on the spindle.


The QC box has 80 speeds, operated by two wheels full of 
gears on needle roller bearings.
WAY more complicated than a car transmission.  The power 
feeds are driven by a keyed shaft which is driven by 
U-joints, so as not to deliver any radial thrust to the 
apron.  They also drive the carriage and crossfeed through 
clutches, not gears.  The clutch break-away force is 
adjustable, so you can be sure in a crash it will not break 
gears.


The power feed and threading feed are engaged by pulling up 
on levers that lock in place.
To release the feed, you just tap the lever downward and the 
lock drops out, the lever drops and the feed is disengaged.  
I have done threading of fairly coarse threads at 900 RPM 
with no worries at all, you can stop the feed right where 
you want to.


There's plenty more to it, but those are a few of the 
highlights. The Sheldon R-series was made in 13, 15 and 17" 
models.  My 15" with six foot bed weighs 3500 Lbs.  Good for 
stability.  My previous lathe was a 12" Atlas-Craftsman.  
The difference in rigidity is just AMAZING!   See 
http://pico-systems.com/sheldon.html  for the whole saga of 
getting it moved in and fixed up.


Jon


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Re: [Emc-users] ex cnc lathe

2019-01-26 Thread andy pugh 
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 08:07, Roland Jollivet 
wrote:

>
> I could buy it for about $500, but it's a huge 'money out' project.
> But, am I being an idiot to not take it, and add it to my already huge list
> of projects?


I am not sure if taking the whole lathe makes sense, but it would be silly
not to take the toolchanger.

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atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916

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Re: [Emc-users] Nice manual lathe in WA (assume WA USA not WA AU)

2019-01-26 Thread andy pugh 
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 05:39, andy pugh  wrote:

> https://www.gumtree.com.au/
> 
>

Actually, it is Western Australia isn't it?  The clue was in the URL

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for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
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[Emc-users] ex cnc lathe

2019-01-26 Thread Roland Jollivet 
Sorry to interrupt, but I just had to get this off my chest. Here in sunny
SA, this is what I saw at the scrapyard on Friday. This was a Leadwell
CNC lathe
leadwell_01 
leadwell_02 
leadwell_03 

I have a feeling the company 'stripped' it so that they could get a better
'steel' price, rather than a reduced 'mixed metal' price.
So unfortunately all the motors are probably being stripped for copper
somewhere else.

If one wanted to make a cnc lathe, this still has all the mechanical
elements, slides, ballscrews, spindle(smooth)
What a waste, almost criminal.

I could buy it for about $500, but it's a huge 'money out' project.
But, am I being an idiot to not take it, and add it to my already huge list
of projects?
An opportunity like is seen about once in five years.

Roland


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