Re: [Emc-users] Because I can't seem to finish anything... Nebel lathe conversion.

2022-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, 9 April 2022 21:27:26 EDT Sam Sokolik wrote:
> X is almost ready to test...
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GzyjvC49J2rTXyaG8

Looking good Sam, similar to what I did to my Sheldon, but my motor mount 
is a sliding plate on the front of a much bigger 1/2" apron so I can 
screw drive the belt tension, and with stepper/servo's, only a 2/1 ratio 
stepdown. X speed max is just over 60" a minute with a 2NM 3 phase 
stepper motor. The rest of my apron has the encoder dials to drive it by 
hand. Seemed the ideal place to put them. Put them near where the cranks 
used to be.  Feels natural. I sealed up the tunnel the x screw is in, top 
and bottom so swarf can't get to it unless its past center going in.  And 
I put bellows on the z screw on both sides of the nut for its swarf 
protection. I even drilled two of the nuts 6 holes all the way thru so 
rapid z movements could let the air get from one bellows to the other w/o 
sucking in contaminents.
 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:18 AM Sam Sokolik  wrote:
> > Most likely it needs that movement because it can spin 30 + inches ;)

If it can spin 30", what is the max spindle speed?
> > sam
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:46 AM andy pugh  wrote:
> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 20:22, Sam Sokolik  wrote:
> >> > The cross slide has around 17 inches of travel... Crazy..
> >> 
> >> For gang-tooling perhaps?
> >> 
> >> --
> >> atp
> >> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> >> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> >> lunatics."
> >> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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[Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-09 Thread John Dammeyer
Really nothing to do with LCNC or even automation.  
 
I've been cleaning out old shelves and I have piles of Popular Electronics 
Magazines.  This one from December 1965 (yes, almost 57 years old) has an 
article on how to improve model trains so they start slowly or crawl rather 
than lurching forward requiring backing off the speed control.
 
They call it pulse power.  Using only transistors and diodes the article 
describes a method of creating narrow pulses superimposed on a varying DC 
voltage.  One knob controls the width of the 12V pulses and the other the 
amplitude of the DC mixed with the pulses.  The pulses are 60Hz.
 
Now we just buy stuff like that for way less than what the transistors would 
cost.  Things have come a long way.
 
Just thought I'd share.
John
 
 

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Re: [Emc-users] Because I can't seem to finish anything... Nebel lathe conversion.

2022-04-09 Thread John Dammeyer
Exciting!


> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> Sent: April-09-22 6:27 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Because I can't seem to finish anything... Nebel 
> lathe conversion.
> 
> X is almost ready to test...
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GzyjvC49J2rTXyaG8
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:18 AM Sam Sokolik  wrote:
> 
> > Most likely it needs that movement because it can spin 30 + inches ;)
> >
> > sam
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:46 AM andy pugh  wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 20:22, Sam Sokolik  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The cross slide has around 17 inches of travel... Crazy..
> >>
> >> For gang-tooling perhaps?
> >>
> >> --
> >> atp
> >> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> >> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> >> lunatics."
> >> � George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> >>
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Re: [Emc-users] Because I can't seem to finish anything... Nebel lathe conversion.

2022-04-09 Thread Sam Sokolik
X is almost ready to test...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GzyjvC49J2rTXyaG8


On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:18 AM Sam Sokolik  wrote:

> Most likely it needs that movement because it can spin 30 + inches ;)
>
> sam
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:46 AM andy pugh  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 20:22, Sam Sokolik  wrote:
>> >
>> > The cross slide has around 17 inches of travel... Crazy..
>>
>> For gang-tooling perhaps?
>>
>> --
>> atp
>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
>> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
>> lunatics."
>> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] Can't compile MODBUS VFD in 2.8.2

2022-04-09 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 at 16:44, Danny Miller  wrote:

> I tried specifying the port loadusr x200 device="/dev/ttyS0". I'm not
> sure how my serial ports are named.  Would "/dev/ttyUSB0" be if that was
> an FTDI USB to serial device?

Plug and unplug it, see what appears and disappears in /dev/

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Re: [Emc-users] Can't compile MODBUS VFD in 2.8.2

2022-04-09 Thread Danny Miller

Ah, found it:

https://forum.linuxcnc.org/25-classicladder/33130-hitachi-wj200-setup

That worked, cut and pasted the gcc lines.

LinuxCNC boots and loads it.  But no modbus communication with VFD.

I've been using a Dell with a built-in RS232 successfully before.

This is on a new fanless NUC with a built-in DB9 RS232 serial port.

I tried specifying the port loadusr x200 device="/dev/ttyS0". I'm not 
sure how my serial ports are named.  Would "/dev/ttyUSB0" be if that was 
an FTDI USB to serial device?


Not sure where to go from here.

Danny

On 4/8/2022 1:42 PM, gene heskett wrote:

On Friday, 8 April 2022 14:26:21 EDT Danny Miller wrote:

I used "sudo apt-get install" and libmodbus5 was already there.

halcompile --install x200_vfd.comp does:

gcc -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/linuxcnc -URTAPI -U__MODULE__ -DULPAI
-Os -o x200_vfd /tmp/tmp4bdQIY/x200_vfd.c -Wl,-rpath,/lib -L/lib
-llinxcnchal

Then, no error about missing typedef (and function prototypes)- which
would have been a lack of a header file.  It's got the header file, now
"undefined reference" for the functions.  So the header prototyped the
function now, but it's not seeing the actual compiled code
"modbus_write_registers" etc

Danny


So I'm lost. Sorry for the noise.

On 4/8/2022 12:25 PM, gene heskett wrote:

On Friday, 8 April 2022 13:06:57 EDT Danny Miller wrote:

So, I think libmodbus-dev is correct,  the typedef and function
names
match.

I installed it, now the file in  /usr/include/modbus/modbus.h should
work, and it looks like halcompile definitely uses it when given an
explicit path, since the error message changes.

That directory just has the header file, it looks like the error is
that it can't actually find the compiled definitions of the
functions
called out in the header.

Danny

That sounds like you do not have libmodbus5 installed. And that
puzzles me a bit because libmodbus-dev should have pulled it in as a
dependency.

What utility are you useing to install this stuff?


On 4/7/2022 9:01 PM, Danny Miller wrote:

Thanks Andy!  Closer...  it's in /usr/include/modbus/

I specified that.  Now it doesn't fail on a missing type modbus_t,
but
rather "undefined reference" to any modbus_write_bit etc functions.
So even though I did get that install for libmodbus to work, it
just
has the header file.  It's not able to find the definitions in a
compiled file.

More ideas?

Danny

On 4/7/2022 5:23 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 03:27, Danny Miller 

wrote:

And same prob.  It's looking for stuff in the libmodbus's
modbus.h
but
it's not seeing it somehow.

You could try giving it a complete path:

#include "/usr/share/modbus/modbus.h"

(quotes rather than braces, I think, for an explicit path)

Or, maybe

#include 

As libmodbus installs into a directory.

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