Re: [Emc-users] .deb of CVS?

[Rob Jansen]

Alex,

On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 10:13 +0300, Alex Joni wrote:


> Hi Rob,
>
> updates which you get automagically won't screw your install.
> We only provide automatic updates for the same release branch of emc2 (so
if
> you have emc2.2.2 you'll get automatic updates for 2.2.3, 2.2.4, 2.2.5,
etc,
> but you won't get automatic updates from 2.1.x to 2.2.x, or to 2.3.x -
> manual intervention is required for that).

That's what I had expected: only update within the 2.2.x branch, I am more
concerned about what I could do wrong myself (not that much - I know).
It is just that I needed to do some productive milling today and I did not
want to get into any possible problems.

> If you produce deb's from your local testing dir, then you can surely
> install that deb on another system.
> If you only use checkout, compile (with run in place, as to not mess an
> installed system), then it's a bit harder to move the work.

Then I'll start reading the documentation and check the Wiki on how to do
this.
Last time I made a .deb file it was called .rpm (on RedHat) and that was
about 7 years ago ...

Regards,

Rob
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Re: [Emc-users] .deb of CVS?

[Ray Henry]

I'm with Alex on this.  I've installed every automagic update of the
EMC2 and had no problems that I can remember. (short memory?)  The folk
who make and test these know what they are doing.

I've also used the upgrade path to move from 2.1 to 2.2 and had to
rebuild my custom configs.  That takes a bit of work and I moved them
away from the ~/emc2 directory to make life easier after the upgrade.

I also regularly build and test stuff from trunk and that is a different
world entirely.  That version is the bleeding edge of our system and we
don't expect it to be always perfect.

For one setup I've got them on the same box and use the trunk version
run-in-place.  Two issues here, configurations and executables.  You've
got to watch the configurations you run when you do this.  The picker
will show the ~/emc2/configs for both running versions.  I don't think
there is an easy way to get around this.  You need to pick from the
correct batch.  You also need to be a bit careful running some of the
ancillary programs from a terminal.  It's easily possible to start an
installed halscope or a dozen others and try to use it on a run-in-place
version.

Rayh
 

On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 10:13 +0300, Alex Joni wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> 
> updates which you get automagically won't screw your install.
> We only provide automatic updates for the same release branch of emc2 (so if 
> you have emc2.2.2 you'll get automatic updates for 2.2.3, 2.2.4, 2.2.5, etc, 
> but you won't get automatic updates from 2.1.x to 2.2.x, or to 2.3.x - 
> manual intervention is required for that).
> 
> As for your second question:
> "So another question is how to install updates that I compiled myself on 
> another system."
> If you produce deb's from your local testing dir, then you can surely 
> install that deb on another system.
> If you only use checkout, compile (with run in place, as to not mess an 
> installed system), then it's a bit harder to move the work.
> 
> Regards,
> Alex
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Rob Jansen
> To: EMC
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:56 AM
> Subject: [Emc-users] .deb of CVS?
> 
> 
> Matt,
> 
> 
> My purpose is to be able to have "easy to install" updates or hot fixes,
> in between released versions if required, without
> emc2-dev/CVS/run-in-place.
> 
> 
> Good question, up to now I just waited for a new LiveCD. I think the answer 
> is on:
> 
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?InstallingUpdates
> 
> I just plugged in the network cable and noticed the update popping up - but 
> since I have to do some money making this week I did not yet dare to do this 
> ...
> 
> But I am a "software engineer" and I was the one to blame for the OMTI 5510 
> harddisk driver in Minix, way-back in 1988 or so. I've ported Linux to a 
> number of targets, did some device drivers and much more stuff that I don't 
> even remember. But I am just too scared to ruin my running EMC2 system so I 
> had a second system installed when 2.2.2 came out and just replaced the 
> hardware.
> 
> But ... I want to be able to do these simple updates. The easy to install 
> .deb would be an option (why recompile if it's already been tested, the 
> developers know best what they changed and may even know how to test :o) )
> Another option (I do have this second PC anyway) would be to install a 
> development PC. I can compile, test, mess around, try out some new HAL 
> stuff, even hook it up to the machine and even replace my 'live' EMC2 system 
> on a sudden death.
> 
> So another question is how to install updates that I compiled myself on 
> another system.
> 
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] .deb of CVS?

[Alex Joni]

Hi Rob,

updates which you get automagically won't screw your install.
We only provide automatic updates for the same release branch of emc2 (so if 
you have emc2.2.2 you'll get automatic updates for 2.2.3, 2.2.4, 2.2.5, etc, 
but you won't get automatic updates from 2.1.x to 2.2.x, or to 2.3.x - 
manual intervention is required for that).

As for your second question:
"So another question is how to install updates that I compiled myself on 
another system."
If you produce deb's from your local testing dir, then you can surely 
install that deb on another system.
If you only use checkout, compile (with run in place, as to not mess an 
installed system), then it's a bit harder to move the work.

Regards,
Alex

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Jansen
To: EMC
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:56 AM
Subject: [Emc-users] .deb of CVS?


Matt,


My purpose is to be able to have "easy to install" updates or hot fixes,
in between released versions if required, without
emc2-dev/CVS/run-in-place.


Good question, up to now I just waited for a new LiveCD. I think the answer 
is on:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?InstallingUpdates

I just plugged in the network cable and noticed the update popping up - but 
since I have to do some money making this week I did not yet dare to do this 
...

But I am a "software engineer" and I was the one to blame for the OMTI 5510 
harddisk driver in Minix, way-back in 1988 or so. I've ported Linux to a 
number of targets, did some device drivers and much more stuff that I don't 
even remember. But I am just too scared to ruin my running EMC2 system so I 
had a second system installed when 2.2.2 came out and just replaced the 
hardware.

But ... I want to be able to do these simple updates. The easy to install 
.deb would be an option (why recompile if it's already been tested, the 
developers know best what they changed and may even know how to test :o) )
Another option (I do have this second PC anyway) would be to install a 
development PC. I can compile, test, mess around, try out some new HAL 
stuff, even hook it up to the machine and even replace my 'live' EMC2 system 
on a sudden death.

So another question is how to install updates that I compiled myself on 
another system.


Rob


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[Emc-users] .deb of CVS?

[Rob Jansen]

Matt,

My purpose is to be able to have "easy to install" updates or hot fixes,
> in between released versions if required, without
> emc2-dev/CVS/run-in-place.
>

Good question, up to now I just waited for a new LiveCD. I think the answer
is on:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?InstallingUpdates

I just plugged in the network cable and noticed the update popping up - but
since I have to do some money making this week I did not yet dare to do this
...

But I am a "software engineer" and I was the one to blame for the OMTI 5510
harddisk driver in Minix, way-back in 1988 or so. I've ported Linux to a
number of targets, did some device drivers and much more stuff that I don't
even remember. But I am just too scared to ruin my running EMC2 system so I
had a second system installed when 2.2.2 came out and just replaced the
hardware.

But ... I want to be able to do these simple updates. The easy to install
.deb would be an option (why recompile if it's already been tested, the
developers know best what they changed and may even know how to test :o) )
Another option (I do have this second PC anyway) would be to install a
development PC. I can compile, test, mess around, try out some new HAL
stuff, even hook it up to the machine and even replace my 'live' EMC2 system
on a sudden death.

So another question is how to install updates that I compiled myself on
another system.

Rob
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[Emc-users] .deb of CVS?

[Matt Shaver]

Does anyone (or non-human cyber-entity) build nightly .deb files based
on CVS? I'm mainly thinking of Dapper, but Hardy will likely be handy in
the future.

My purpose is to be able to have "easy to install" updates or hot fixes,
in between released versions if required, without
emc2-dev/CVS/run-in-place.

Thanks,
Matt



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