Re: [Emc-users] My experiment with the wheezy based download may be over.

2015-01-17 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 01/17/2015 12:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 So here I am, back on the LUCID install and disk, but currently running a 
 PAE 3.16.0 kernel, which FWIW, runs the lcnc sim just fine.
 
 I suppose until an upgrade path becomes available.  Wheezy might be ok for 
 the milling machine and lathe, but it is NOT a General Purpose, runs 
 everything, install.  That is what I need here, and capable of running the 
 simulator.
 
 Suggestions?

You could try Ubuntu Precise.  We have an RTAI kernel for it, and we
build packages for it.

Instructions are here:

http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/index.html#_installing_on_ubuntu_precise


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Re: [Emc-users] My experiment with the wheezy based download may be over.

2015-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 17 January 2015 11:06:36 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On 01/17/2015 12:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  So here I am, back on the LUCID install and disk, but currently
  running a PAE 3.16.0 kernel, which FWIW, runs the lcnc sim just
  fine.
  
  I suppose until an upgrade path becomes available.  Wheezy might be
  ok for the milling machine and lathe, but it is NOT a General
  Purpose, runs everything, install.  That is what I need here, and
  capable of running the simulator.
  
  Suggestions?
 
 You could try Ubuntu Precise.  We have an RTAI kernel for it, and we
 build packages for it.
 
 Instructions are here:
 
 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/index.html#_insta
 lling_on_ubuntu_precise

Thanks Seb.

I'll take a look, thats debian 7.7 I guess?  I have 7.8, in amd64 flavor, 
all 3 iso's about 40% downloaded now.  What kernel is in this precise? 
Maybe I can dl  build the rtai patched kernel?

It sure would remove a boatload of confusion here if debian would use 
either names in alphabetical order, or advancing version numbers to track 
this stuff.

Thanks again Seb.

While thats finishing, I'll go work on the blanket chest. I am having to 
assume there is a typu or two in the 'sploded drawings as I am going to 
have to make the bottom panel a different size from whats in the magazine 
by nearly an inch. And I am glad I caught that before that plywood panel 
ever got within 10 feet of the table saw.

Clearly, I have too many hobbies. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] My experiment with the wheezy based download may be over.

2015-01-17 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 01/17/2015 09:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Saturday 17 January 2015 11:06:36 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine
 You could try Ubuntu Precise.  We have an RTAI kernel for it, and we
 build packages for it.

 Instructions are here:

 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/index.html#_insta
 lling_on_ubuntu_precise
 
 Thanks Seb.
 
 I'll take a look, thats debian 7.7 I guess?  I have 7.8, in amd64 flavor, 
 all 3 iso's about 40% downloaded now.  What kernel is in this precise? 
 Maybe I can dl  build the rtai patched kernel?

Precise is a distribution from Ubuntu, not from Debian.  It's by the
same people who made Lucid.

We (the linuxcnc group) provide a pre-built, packaged rtai kernel for
Ubuntu Precise already.  The instructions that i linked above include
steps to install it on top of an existing vanilla Precise install.


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Re: [Emc-users] My experiment with the wheezy based download may be over.

2015-01-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 17 January 2015 11:34:15 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On 01/17/2015 09:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Saturday 17 January 2015 11:06:36 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine
  
  You could try Ubuntu Precise.  We have an RTAI kernel for it, and we
  build packages for it.
  
  Instructions are here:
  
  http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/index.html#_in
  sta lling_on_ubuntu_precise
  
  Thanks Seb.
  
  I'll take a look, thats debian 7.7 I guess?  I have 7.8, in amd64
  flavor, all 3 iso's about 40% downloaded now.  What kernel is in
  this precise? Maybe I can dl  build the rtai patched kernel?
 
 Precise is a distribution from Ubuntu, not from Debian.  It's by the
 same people who made Lucid.
 
 We (the linuxcnc group) provide a pre-built, packaged rtai kernel for
 Ubuntu Precise already.  The instructions that i linked above include
 steps to install it on top of an existing vanilla Precise install.

And this is different from the wheezy based install I did a month back, 
and found the kernel, while being named as a PAE kernel, was not?  I got 
that install image from linuxcnc.org.

Confused.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] My experiment with the wheezy based download may be over

2015-01-17 Thread schoone...@btinternet.com
 Suggestions?

Just run the 64 bit stock rt-preempt debian kernel on Wheezy and either 
build a RIP of the uspace build of LCNC or build MachineKit

I have this on all my non-controller machines and it works fine.  No 
need for a simulator build, just do a full build and run sim configs

regards

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[Emc-users] My experiment with the wheezy based download may be over.

2015-01-16 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings;

1. The original kernel claimed to be PAE, wasn't. So I was into swap in 10 
minutes.

2. The kmail, 1.13.7 was totally compatible with my email corpus, a huge 
plus.

3 Just for grins I installed an amd64 kernel, version 3.4-9-amd64. So 
sweet it ran my sugar up 100 points. The machine has never been this fast 
or stable!  Huge improvement.  But not even the sim version of lcnc will 
run on it, while it purrs happily along on this home brewed 32 bit 3.16.0-
PAE kernel.

4. iceweasal may be firefox with all the non-free stuff excised, and it 
works well at what it does, but doesn't do 90% of the web sites much 
better than linx did 15 years ago.  So I downloaded the latest firefox, 
putting the tarballs operational directory into ~/gene/bin.  Worked fairly 
well including most video's when launched from the cli, but complained of 
a missing library which I could only get from a Jessie repo.  Installing 
that, demanded 19 other dependencies too, and when done with that, 
rescanned and the mark all upgrades must have been aimed at updating it to 
Jessie, 100 plus new files, and a sizeable pile of removals.  Which I 
might have done except one of the packages it would have also removed was 
kmail, which I have used for the last 13 years.  And no replacement was 
listed.

5 I went back to the list to post  ask for a solution to the corner that 
the need for one file managed to paint me into, and found that kmails smtp 
had already been destroyed.  Attempts to send were instantly rejected with 
a bad address report.  The address was fine. So I couldn't even ask for 
help. My background mail sucker, fetchmail and some friends continued to 
pull in mail at the usual late Friday night rate so nothing wrong with 
pop3.

So here I am, back on the LUCID install and disk, but currently running a 
PAE 3.16.0 kernel, which FWIW, runs the lcnc sim just fine.

I suppose until an upgrade path becomes available.  Wheezy might be ok for 
the milling machine and lathe, but it is NOT a General Purpose, runs 
everything, install.  That is what I need here, and capable of running the 
simulator.

Suggestions?

Thank you all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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