Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital Machinist next year

2012-10-17 Thread Jack Coats
After having been around putting on small conferences, it is a LOT of
work on the organizers.  Many do it for the love of the field, but
there needs to be something for the organizers whether it is public
thanks, financial support over and above just paying for expenses.

There is constantly pressure from vendors to pay less, from attendees
not being able to pay fees, from venues needing to get more for their
space (I doubt this was much in pressure at WWC, but I know I don't
know).

After doing a conference for a number of years, even if you still love
the field, driving a conference gets old.  This is why many turn to
commercial conference companies to 'deal with it'.  Then prices for
everyone does tend to go up, but the conference does go on.  Even with
their help, it is still hard to keep conferences on track.

Is any of than an answer or explanation to why?  I doubt it.  But I
hope it helps some see the perspective and to keep saying thanks to
the conference organizers for any conference.

---

For the 'geek' community of various genre's (software and hardwer
hackers/makers/builders, trekkies, comic, scifi, etc) there are still
large and small 'cons' across the land.

The 'maker' movement has the commercial Maker Faires, often sponsored
by local hacker spaces and/or Make: Magazine.

I think that if there is a strong CNC presence in an area (club?
interest group of any kind?), they might try putting on a CNC-Con
possibly elsewhere.  It won't be the same, but there is obviously a
need.

One local 'con' here in Nashville TN works with local 'second level'
hotels that have significant meeting rooms/ball rooms, and give the
group a significant discount on blocks of rooms to try to fill the
hotels on non-football, non-other big venue attractions in the area
weekends.

I like the idea of using small colleges in 'off season'.  There might
be opportunities s for that elsewhere in the country as well.

---

Just some suggestions. ... sorry I have missed going to this CNC
conference, I have 'meant to' but never did.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital Machinist next year

2012-10-17 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
Joining up with cabin fever could be a good move. The vendors are
already there and there are numerous buildings at the fair grounds
that could be used for seminars away from the main event. Just a
thought.

On 10/17/12, Jon Elson  wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>> Did he give any reasons as to why?
>>
> A lack of vendor involvement was part of it, but given the space WCC was
> making available, I don't see how more vendors could have really got in
> there.  This might have been a "critical mass" problem, WCC wouldn't
> offer a larger space unless we had more people, more vendors wouldn't show
> unless we had more people, more people wouldn't come without more
> vendors and speakers.
>
> But, also he said he was completely tied up from February to
> June with logistics.  I think maybe he could have pushed back on people who
> were demanding too much of his time, or maybe hired a part-time kid
> to just field calls for him.  I am fairly sure Roland didn't devote this
> much
> time to his meetings, but then he had something like 3 full-time employees
> that he dedicated for a month before the show.
>
> The building at WCC was great with all the small classrooms and one
> big lecture hall, but we needed a bigger space to put the vendors/
> exhibitors.
>
> Jon
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Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital Machinist next year

2012-10-17 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote:
> Did he give any reasons as to why?
>   
A lack of vendor involvement was part of it, but given the space WCC was
making available, I don't see how more vendors could have really got in
there.  This might have been a "critical mass" problem, WCC wouldn't
offer a larger space unless we had more people, more vendors wouldn't show
unless we had more people, more people wouldn't come without more
vendors and speakers.

But, also he said he was completely tied up from February to
June with logistics.  I think maybe he could have pushed back on people who
were demanding too much of his time, or maybe hired a part-time kid
to just field calls for him.  I am fairly sure Roland didn't devote this 
much
time to his meetings, but then he had something like 3 full-time employees
that he dedicated for a month before the show.

The building at WCC was great with all the small classrooms and one
big lecture hall, but we needed a bigger space to put the vendors/
exhibitors.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital Machinist next year

2012-10-16 Thread Dave
Did he give any reasons as to why?

Dave

On 10/16/2012 11:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> I just got word from George Bulliss that he won't be hosting the CNC
> Workshop that has been held in Ann Arbor for the last 3 years.
> I'd hate to see that all-CNC meeting go away forever.  Anybody
> have any ideas?
>
> Jon
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[Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital Machinist next year

2012-10-16 Thread Jon Elson
I just got word from George Bulliss that he won't be hosting the CNC
Workshop that has been held in Ann Arbor for the last 3 years.
I'd hate to see that all-CNC meeting go away forever.  Anybody
have any ideas?

Jon

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