Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
From: bodge...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:53:27 + To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer On 26 October 2014 01:00, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: looking for some fairly specific info, I am not up on or very interested in researching every option. I quite like the Pico PSUs, partly because they plug in to the MB and don't need to be mounted separately. For the same reason, on a dedicated LinuxCNC machine I like the SATA DOM drives, that simply plug in to the SATA port. This sort of thing. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kingspec-8GB-SATA-DOM-MLC-Flash-SSD-Solid-State-Hard-Disk-Drive-for-PC-LAPTOP-/111282354949 They don't come in large capacities, but then G-code files aren't very big, and you may want to keep them on a separate networked drive anyway. I also don't know how long they last for. My machines don't even get used every day, things might be different on a 3-shift machine. (but a pre-formatted spare would be easy to arrange) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto Thank you for your experience and opinions. This will narrow down things a lot. Chris M -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
On 10/26/2014 1:27 AM, Brian Morel wrote: ASRock Motherboard Mini D1800B-ITX Are you using any motion control hardware or are you using step and direction out the LPT port? I have a Gigabyte J1900 board with a Kingston 60GB SSDNow powered by a Pico power supply, I believe the 80 watt version. Running a program it draws about 1/2 amp at 12 volts, starting up the current draw peaks at about 1 amp. It draws very little power and the passive heatsink only gets warm to the touch. Amazingly efficient! So your power supply will not have to work hard. Thanks for the info. Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
That should work fine. If you want to mess around with the hm2-eth ethernet driver, the Gigabyte J1900N-D3V has dual Ethernet ports, but no LPT port. The board got a lot of bad reviews for some early bios firmware that was bad. The F3 version of the firmware is fine. Debian 7 and Ubuntu 14.04 runs fine on the Gigabyte board. No video issues. I've bought about a dozen of those Kingston SSDNow drives (30 and 60 gig) and they always seem to work well. For memory, I have been buying Crucial but I have never had issues with the leading brands. I'm a little picky when it comes to power supplies as there is a lot of junk power supplies out there now. Thermaltake seems to be better than some of the other ones I have used (and lost). The little PICO power supplies work well if you don't need too much PCI power. Dave On 10/25/2014 9:00 PM, Chris Morley wrote: I am interested in building a computer using this mb: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157565cm_re=j1900-_-13-157-565-_-Product ( Peter from Mesa mentioned it at some time - I want the PCI and parport) I do understand it will require a recent kernel. Can anyone recommend the rest of the required pieces for it? memory, power supply, ssd etc. looking for some fairly specific info, I am not up on or very interested in researching every option. Thanks for any help. Chris M -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
On 26 October 2014 01:00, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: looking for some fairly specific info, I am not up on or very interested in researching every option. I quite like the Pico PSUs, partly because they plug in to the MB and don't need to be mounted separately. For the same reason, on a dedicated LinuxCNC machine I like the SATA DOM drives, that simply plug in to the SATA port. This sort of thing. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kingspec-8GB-SATA-DOM-MLC-Flash-SSD-Solid-State-Hard-Disk-Drive-for-PC-LAPTOP-/111282354949 They don't come in large capacities, but then G-code files aren't very big, and you may want to keep them on a separate networked drive anyway. I also don't know how long they last for. My machines don't even get used every day, things might be different on a 3-shift machine. (but a pre-formatted spare would be easy to arrange) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
1 of: ADATA Premier Series DDR3 1333Mhz 8 GB Laptop Memory Kit 2 x 4 GB CL9 Dual Channel SO-DIMM AD3S1333C4G9-2 Bearing in mind however that if you are running an x86 distro of linuxcnc, 4.75MB ish of that memory will not be able to be seen or used -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
On 26.10.2014 15:39, schoone...@btinternet.com wrote: 1 of: ADATA Premier Series DDR3 1333Mhz 8 GB Laptop Memory Kit 2 x 4 GB CL9 Dual Channel SO-DIMM AD3S1333C4G9-2 Bearing in mind however that if you are running an x86 distro of linuxcnc, 4.75MB ish of that memory will not be able to be seen or used Sure? PAE should allow this, though no single process will be able to use more than 4GiB (or 2GiB?) at a time. Regards, Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
On 10/26/2014 12:27 AM, Brian Morel wrote: Below is what I just used for a build. Seems to work good so far. 1 of: V7 Standard PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse Combo (CK0A2-4N6P) 1 of: Kingston Digital 60GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5 (7mm height) with Adapter Solid State Drive SV300S37A/60G 1 of: ADATA Premier Series DDR3 1333Mhz 8 GB Laptop Memory Kit 2 x 4 GB CL9 Dual Channel SO-DIMM AD3S1333C4G9-2 1 of: ASRock Motherboard Mini D1800B-ITX 1 of: MI-008 Tower Black P4 Chassis with 250W Itx Psu+sata Power Supply Thanks! And, what are the latency numbers on this? What LinuxCNC distro are you using? Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
LPT port for now. I just have on of those cheap 3-axis blue Stepper boards right now. Sent from my iPad On Oct 26, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/26/2014 1:27 AM, Brian Morel wrote: ASRock Motherboard Mini D1800B-ITX Are you using any motion control hardware or are you using step and direction out the LPT port? I have a Gigabyte J1900 board with a Kingston 60GB SSDNow powered by a Pico power supply, I believe the 80 watt version. Running a program it draws about 1/2 amp at 12 volts, starting up the current draw peaks at about 1 amp. It draws very little power and the passive heatsink only gets warm to the touch. Amazingly efficient! So your power supply will not have to work hard. Thanks for the info. Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
Sub, 6,000 ns. But I haven't pushed it really-really hard. I used the new Live-cd, and since I had a PS/2 keyboard and mouse, it worked fine. The Baytrail boards USB doesn't work with the current RTAI kernel, but it should be fixed soon. I think I have a kernel that enables USB but it needs more testing. Sent from my iPad On Oct 26, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: On 10/26/2014 12:27 AM, Brian Morel wrote: Below is what I just used for a build. Seems to work good so far. 1 of: V7 Standard PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse Combo (CK0A2-4N6P) 1 of: Kingston Digital 60GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5 (7mm height) with Adapter Solid State Drive SV300S37A/60G 1 of: ADATA Premier Series DDR3 1333Mhz 8 GB Laptop Memory Kit 2 x 4 GB CL9 Dual Channel SO-DIMM AD3S1333C4G9-2 1 of: ASRock Motherboard Mini D1800B-ITX 1 of: MI-008 Tower Black P4 Chassis with 250W Itx Psu+sata Power Supply Thanks! And, what are the latency numbers on this? What LinuxCNC distro are you using? Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
Ya, the RTAI kernel is PAE, but I plan on working to help get amd64 kernel working anyway. Sent from my iPad On Oct 26, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Philipp Burch p...@hb9etc.ch wrote: On 26.10.2014 15:39, schoone...@btinternet.com wrote: 1 of: ADATA Premier Series DDR3 1333Mhz 8 GB Laptop Memory Kit 2 x 4 GB CL9 Dual Channel SO-DIMM AD3S1333C4G9-2 Bearing in mind however that if you are running an x86 distro of linuxcnc, 4.75MB ish of that memory will not be able to be seen or used Sure? PAE should allow this, though no single process will be able to use more than 4GiB (or 2GiB?) at a time. Regards, Philipp -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
On 10/26/2014 12:48 PM, Brian Morel wrote: Sub, 6,000 ns. But I haven't pushed it really-really hard. I used the new Live-cd, and since I had a PS/2 keyboard and mouse, it worked fine. That is excellent! Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
I am interested in building a computer using this mb: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157565cm_re=j1900-_-13-157-565-_-Product ( Peter from Mesa mentioned it at some time - I want the PCI and parport) I do understand it will require a recent kernel. Can anyone recommend the rest of the required pieces for it? memory, power supply, ssd etc. looking for some fairly specific info, I am not up on or very interested in researching every option. Thanks for any help. Chris M -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer
Below is what I just used for a build. Seems to work good so far. 1 of: V7 Standard PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse Combo (CK0A2-4N6P) 1 of: Kingston Digital 60GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5 (7mm height) with Adapter Solid State Drive SV300S37A/60G 1 of: ADATA Premier Series DDR3 1333Mhz 8 GB Laptop Memory Kit 2 x 4 GB CL9 Dual Channel SO-DIMM AD3S1333C4G9-2 1 of: ASRock Motherboard Mini D1800B-ITX 1 of: MI-008 Tower Black P4 Chassis with 250W Itx Psu+sata Power Supply Brian On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: I am interested in building a computer using this mb: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157565cm_re=j1900-_-13-157-565-_-Product ( Peter from Mesa mentioned it at some time - I want the PCI and parport) I do understand it will require a recent kernel. Can anyone recommend the rest of the required pieces for it? memory, power supply, ssd etc. looking for some fairly specific info, I am not up on or very interested in researching every option. Thanks for any help. Chris M -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
