Re: [Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins
I am looking at a config from the forum, and there is quite clearly no acceleration limiting applied when keyboard jogging that (gantrykins) config. … And that is because there is no [TRAJ] DEFAULT_VELOCITY It looks like a PNCConf config, so perhaps one for Chris M. -- atp PNCconf does not configure gantrykins machines. It would seem that PNCconf was used to get a basic config then edited for gantrykins machine (perfectly fine). The docs on DEFAULT_VELOCITY do not mention that it is not used in trivalkins but is in others. We should add that. It does mention this for DEFAULT_ACCELERATION... It seems gantrykins is buggy? I would consider adding it to PNCconf but didn't think it was really 100% Chris M -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins
From: chrisinnana...@hotmail.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 06:58:48 + PNCconf does not configure gantrykins machines. It would seem that PNCconf was used to get a basic config then edited for gantrykins machine (perfectly fine). The docs on DEFAULT_VELOCITY do not mention that it is not used in trivalkins but is in others. We should add that. It does mention this for DEFAULT_ACCELERATION... Is there any documentation on using gantrykins? I briefly looked but nothing jumped out. Chris M -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins
The docs on DEFAULT_VELOCITY do not mention that it is not used in trivalkins but is in others. We should add that. It does mention this for DEFAULT_ACCELERATION… I don't think there is any harm in putting the parameter in the INI, and it can avoid this rather confusing problem. I just tried the sample gantry config and that shows the same problem if you turn the jog speed up to max. It seems gantrykins is buggy? I would consider adding it to PNCconf but didn't think it was really 100% Gantrykins itself is perfectly OK (it isn't complicated enough to have bugs) but it does expose some limitations and problems with the way LinuxCNC handles non-trivial kins. It would almost make sense to have a nearly-trivial-kins setting. -- atp It doesn't hurt to add the commands in the INI other then its confusing for users when they see them (while using trivalkins) when they don't do anything. The sample comfig is confusing too. no comments in it :( for instance in the TRAJ section one sees : MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 360.00 DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 36.00 MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 1.00 In our docs these are all setting for AXIS in the DISPLAY section. Are they also for the TRAJ section or are they in the wrong section? Chris M -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins
On 17 July 2012 17:38, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: Incremental jogging (as with a hand wheel) doesn't work with gantrykins :-( Continuous jogging does, but that doesn't help you much. I am not sure that is true either. I am looking at a config from the forum, and there is quite clearly no acceleration limiting applied when keyboard jogging that (gantrykins) config. In the case of the config I am looking at this was leading to f-errors because the stepgen access were low enough to show it. There is acceleration limiting in a trivkins config. I find the difference a bit puzzling. (This is with version 2.5.1) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins
On 3 August 2012 23:24, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking at a config from the forum, and there is quite clearly no acceleration limiting applied when keyboard jogging that (gantrykins) config. … And that is because there is no [TRAJ] DEFAULT_VELOCITY It looks like a PNCConf config, so perhaps one for Chris M. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins
I have been following the gantrykins conversation recently as we have been installing linuxcnc on a gantry machine. There is some odd behavior with ignoring soft limits, and jumping to joint mode at moments when it is least desirable. I now find that the hand wheel jogging does not seem to work. When the same file is loaded using trivkins, jogging works normally, can anyone suggest a solution? Dave -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins
Incremental jogging (as with a hand wheel) doesn't work with gantrykins :-( Continuous jogging does, but that doesn't help you much. And yes, gantrykins also ignores soft limits. On Jul 17, 2012, at 10:01 , David Dyke wrote: I have been following the gantrykins conversation recently as we have been installing linuxcnc on a gantry machine. There is some odd behavior with ignoring soft limits, and jumping to joint mode at moments when it is least desirable. I now find that the hand wheel jogging does not seem to work. When the same file is loaded using trivkins, jogging works normally, can anyone suggest a solution? Dave -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] can't jog using handwheel with gantrykins
On 17 July 2012 17:38, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: Incremental jogging (as with a hand wheel) doesn't work with gantrykins :-( ... And yes, gantrykins also ignores soft limits. In many cases gantrykins is a lot more trouble than it is worth. It does allow the gantry to auto-square, but that is the only thing it has going for it, as far as I can see. There is certainly no point using Gantrykins in a setup with only one set of home switches. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
