Re: [Emc-users] Voting time again..
> The Board has asked Michael Cornelius to run the voting for us. > Michael is not involved in the EMC project but he is a Free Software > advocate in many ways and has graciously offered to help out > (like he did last time). The Board will provide him a list > of email addresses made from joining the lists of people receiving > the emc-users and emc-developers emails. > > He will send a ballot to each person and have a special email address > set up to receive the votes. When voting closes he will report back > the names of our new Board members. When the time comes he will give > us all specific instructions about how to vote. Alex - A simple procedural question - will voting instructions & ballots be sent through the list or is there an email address we should whitelist to make sure they get through (don't want to inadvertently miss anything) ? Thanks. And good luck to all nominees - looking at the 2007 page it looks like a good crew no matter the results. Responsible voting will definitely take some serious deliberation so make your bio's count gents! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Voting time again..
Greetings all, the period for nominations is now over. We have the following candidates (in alfabetical order): 1. Jeff Epler 2. Alex Joni 3. John Kasunich 4. Chris Radek 5. Sam Sokolik 6. John Thornton 7. Stephen Wille Padnos Like last time, we have a wiki page where the nominees can write a bit about their experience and goals if they like: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?BoardElection We will now start the voting procedures, and you'll soon get instructions how to vote. Good luck to the all the nominees, and lots of thanks to everyone on the lists who will vote. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: "Alex Joni" To: Cc: "EMC developers" Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:36 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Voting time again.. > Hi all, it's time to have another election for the Board of Directors. > > The first step is to have nominations. These take place on the > emc-users list. > > To make a nomination, please put NOMINATION in the subject > of your message. > Nominations must be seconded by another person to be considered; > to second a nomination please put SECONDED in the subject. > The nominated person should then accept or decline the nomination. > > Let's start nominations now and run them through Jan 12 2009, > 23:59:59 UTC. > > Like last time, we'll have a wiki page where the nominees can write > a bit about their experience and goals if they like: > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?BoardElection > > The Board has asked Michael Cornelius to run the voting for us. > Michael is not involved in the EMC project but he is a Free Software > advocate in many ways and has graciously offered to help out > (like he did last time). The Board will provide him a list > of email addresses made from joining the lists of people receiving > the emc-users and emc-developers emails. > > He will send a ballot to each person and have a special email address > set up to receive the votes. When voting closes he will report back > the names of our new Board members. When the time comes he will give > us all specific instructions about how to vote. > > I wish good luck to the nominees, and give my sincere thanks to > everyone on the lists who will participate in setting the future > direction of the EMC project. > > Alex -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Voting time again..
Hi all, it's time to have another election for the Board of Directors. The first step is to have nominations. These take place on the emc-users list. To make a nomination, please put NOMINATION in the subject of your message. Nominations must be seconded by another person to be considered; to second a nomination please put SECONDED in the subject. The nominated person should then accept or decline the nomination. Let's start nominations now and run them through Jan 12 2009, 23:59:59 UTC. Like last time, we'll have a wiki page where the nominees can write a bit about their experience and goals if they like: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?BoardElection The Board has asked Michael Cornelius to run the voting for us. Michael is not involved in the EMC project but he is a Free Software advocate in many ways and has graciously offered to help out (like he did last time). The Board will provide him a list of email addresses made from joining the lists of people receiving the emc-users and emc-developers emails. He will send a ballot to each person and have a special email address set up to receive the votes. When voting closes he will report back the names of our new Board members. When the time comes he will give us all specific instructions about how to vote. I wish good luck to the nominees, and give my sincere thanks to everyone on the lists who will participate in setting the future direction of the EMC project. Alex -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 08:47:29PM +0100, Steve Blackmore wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:48:08 -0500, you wrote: > > >There were approximately 148 eligible voters I accidentally left off > >the list. These were people with emails starting with the letters > >A,C,D,E,G,J,M,P,S. > > Include B as well, I didn't receive one either ;) > > > Steve Blackmore > -- Since your email address starts with st; you would have been on the S list right next to Stuart. Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:48:08 -0500, you wrote: >There were approximately 148 eligible voters I accidentally left off >the list. These were people with emails starting with the letters >A,C,D,E,G,J,M,P,S. Include B as well, I didn't receive one either ;) Steve Blackmore -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Stuart Stevenson wrote: >Gentlemen, >[snip] >I will appreciate the opportunity to vote but as I know how I will >vote I can see my vote will not change the outcome. > > It could, if the 148 people missed are all avid voters :) - Steve >thanks :) >Stuart > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Gentlemen, You will notice I said 'gentlemen'. We are not all from Florida but it seems as if most of us are approaching 'geezerhood'. :) I was not ranting about not getting to vote. I was answering the 'for what is is worth - I vote' statement. I was making clear my 'who votes' statement was not misunderstood. I will appreciate the opportunity to vote but as I know how I will vote I can see my vote will not change the outcome. thanks :) Stuart - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Chris Radek wrote: > I generated the list of emails to give Michael by copy/pasting the > list from the web-based administration interface for the emc-users and > emc-developers mailing lists on sourceforge. > > This list has a different web page for every letter/number of the > alphabet, and I copied once for each page. What I missed was a link > at the bottom on SOME of the pages for letters that had too many > subscribers whose emails start with that letter. In those cases the > sourceforge web interface breaks the letter into two or more pages. > For those letters, to my great dismay, I missed some subscribers. > > There were approximately 148 eligible voters I accidentally left off > the list. These were people with emails starting with the letters > A,C,D,E,G,J,M,P,S. > > With the 14% response rate we received this year, this means we are > probably missing about 20 votes. Yours is one of them. > > I've talked to Stephen and Alex and I think we all agree that we > should send ballots to these missed folks and extend the voting > deadline. I see a few other options but they don't seem as good. Wow, easy to see how this happened, I think this is the best approach to fixing it! Well, it doesn't ONLY happen with Florida punch card voting! Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Gentlemen, I think I now know why I didn't see a ballot. Thanks John K. I have my email set to filter email. Since Michael is not in my address book I wouldn't have seen an email from him. This has happened before. I will try to be more aware in the future. thanks Stuart - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Chris Radek wrote: >Stuart, everyone who participates on this list and/or the >emc-developers list is eligible to vote. > >That being said, due to a mistake I made, I've created a little mess. >Let me explain. > >I generated the list of emails to give Michael by copy/pasting the >list from the web-based administration interface for the emc-users and >emc-developers mailing lists on sourceforge. > >This list has a different web page for every letter/number of the >alphabet, and I copied once for each page. What I missed was a link >at the bottom on SOME of the pages for letters that had too many >subscribers whose emails start with that letter. In those cases the >sourceforge web interface breaks the letter into two or more pages. >For those letters, to my great dismay, I missed some subscribers. > >There were approximately 148 eligible voters I accidentally left off >the list. These were people with emails starting with the letters >A,C,D,E,G,J,M,P,S. > >With the 14% response rate we received this year, this means we are >probably missing about 20 votes. Yours is one of them. > >I've talked to Stephen and Alex and I think we all agree that we >should send ballots to these missed folks and extend the voting >deadline. I see a few other options but they don't seem as good. > > One minor point - I'd suggest that the voting deadline be extended for those who didn't get ballots, not for everyone else. Everyone else already had their chance :) >I'm really sorry I screwed this up. > > Web interfaces like that are a PITA no matter how you slice it. You did well to get it mostly right, so don't beat yourself up over it. >Chris > > - Steve - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Chris Radek wrote: > Stuart, everyone who participates on this list and/or the > emc-developers list is eligible to vote. > > That being said, due to a mistake I made, I've created a little mess. > Let me explain. > > I generated the list of emails to give Michael by copy/pasting the > list from the web-based administration interface for the emc-users and > emc-developers mailing lists on sourceforge. > > This list has a different web page for every letter/number of the > alphabet, Yuck. I thought it was bad when I did that task (previous two elections) +- at that time they put 50 or so names per page, and it took about a dozen pages to get everybody. One page per letter is worse. I understand SF is trying to prevent spammers from harvesting names, but there has got to be a way to allow a legitimate person to capture the entire list at once. > and I copied once for each page. What I missed was a link > at the bottom on SOME of the pages for letters that had too many > subscribers whose emails start with that letter. In those cases the > sourceforge web interface breaks the letter into two or more pages. > For those letters, to my great dismay, I missed some subscribers. > > There were approximately 148 eligible voters I accidentally left off > the list. These were people with emails starting with the letters > A,C,D,E,G,J,M,P,S. > > With the 14% response rate we received this year, this means we are > probably missing about 20 votes. Yours is one of them. > > I've talked to Stephen and Alex and I think we all agree that we > should send ballots to these missed folks and extend the voting > deadline. I see a few other options but they don't seem as good. I'm not on IRC at the moment so they didn't talk to me, but I agree 100%. Ballots should go out to the missed voters, and ALL voters should get the opportunity to return their ballots. > I'm really sorry I screwed this up. > > Chris > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Stuart, everyone who participates on this list and/or the emc-developers list is eligible to vote. That being said, due to a mistake I made, I've created a little mess. Let me explain. I generated the list of emails to give Michael by copy/pasting the list from the web-based administration interface for the emc-users and emc-developers mailing lists on sourceforge. This list has a different web page for every letter/number of the alphabet, and I copied once for each page. What I missed was a link at the bottom on SOME of the pages for letters that had too many subscribers whose emails start with that letter. In those cases the sourceforge web interface breaks the letter into two or more pages. For those letters, to my great dismay, I missed some subscribers. There were approximately 148 eligible voters I accidentally left off the list. These were people with emails starting with the letters A,C,D,E,G,J,M,P,S. With the 14% response rate we received this year, this means we are probably missing about 20 votes. Yours is one of them. I've talked to Stephen and Alex and I think we all agree that we should send ballots to these missed folks and extend the voting deadline. I see a few other options but they don't seem as good. I'm really sorry I screwed this up. Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > My question "Who votes?" was not a cynical, rhetorical, apathetic > comment. It was a legitimate question. I saw no ballot. I saw no > email. I did not have the opportunity to vote. > I will now expand on the first question. That way there will be NO > confusion as to the meaning of or the reason for my question. > What group is quailified to and has permission to vote? My vote > wouldn't have changed the outcome but I WOULD have voted if given the > opportunity. > For what it's worth. Is that a more clear question and statement? > thanks :( > Stuart Ballots were supposed to go out to everyone who was subscribed to either the emc-users list or the emc-developers list, as of the July 24 when Chris posted the original request for nominations. You (Stuart) have been around for a while and certainly should have gotten one. When Michael sent this: > Hello, > > You should be receiving your ballots soon. Instructions for voting > are included. Happy voting. > to the users list on Aug 11, I got my ballot within a few minutes. I assumed that everybody else got theirs too. There were very few bounces - again from Michael: > 526 email addresses for eligible voters > 7 bounces > 73 ballots returned > > The rate of response was approximately 14%. Did anyone else who was subscribed to the list on July 24 NOT get a ballot? Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
Gentlemen, My question "Who votes?" was not a cynical, rhetorical, apathetic comment. It was a legitimate question. I saw no ballot. I saw no email. I did not have the opportunity to vote. I will now expand on the first question. That way there will be NO confusion as to the meaning of or the reason for my question. What group is quailified to and has permission to vote? My vote wouldn't have changed the outcome but I WOULD have voted if given the opportunity. For what it's worth. Is that a more clear question and statement? thanks :( Stuart - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] voting
For what it's worth, I do Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > Who votes? > thanks > Stuart > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] voting
Gentlemen, Who votes? thanks Stuart - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users