Re: [Emc-users] 2.8 or 2.9?

[Dave Matthews]

I am happily running 2.8.0 with 4 homing switches to auto align the gantry
(Gatton CNC).  Works great.  At the moment I am cutting lexan candy molds
for the wife.

Dave

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022, 00:38 Andy Howell  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I maintain a gantry style CNC  router for our high school robotics team.
> Tonight our hard disk died. I need to decide what version to install.
>  From reading the list, it looks like 2.9 is close to release. My
> preference would be to go with that. Any reason I should go with 2.8.2
> instead?
>
> The machine was running 2.5. Time for an upgrade either way.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 2.8 or 2.9?

[Andy Howell]

On 2/2/22 12:15, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:

On 2/2/22 10:03 AM, Andy Howell wrote:


I based my impression of it getting close from reading mails about 
progressing in the Debian new release queue.


The project to get LinuxCNC included in the main Debian distribution 
is totally decoupled from the project to make the next release of 
LinuxCNC.  Do not take the Debian packaging progress as a sign that 
2.9 is getting close to release.


It would be great if we could get LinuxCNC into Debian *and* finalize 
2.9 before the next major release of Debian is frozen. That'll be 
Debian 12 "Bookworm", and it's probably a year or so away, I think.


The "get LinuxCNC into Debian" project (spearheaded by Steffen Möller 
and Petter Reinholdtsen of debian.org, thank you!!) is currently in 
the hands of the Debian ftpmasters group, which scrutinizes new 
packages before they get accepted.  The ftpmasters are currently 
swamped with all the new incoming packages that people want to add to 
Debian after the recent-ish release of Debian 11 Bullseye, and we must 
wait patiently.


The "release the next version of LinuxCNC" is something we should 
probably start thinking and talking about internally...  I'll start a 
new thread for that.



Sebastian,

Thank you for clarifying that. If there is something I can do to help 
2.9 along, I would be glad help. I'll give 2.9 a try.


Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Emc-users] 2.8 or 2.9?

[Sebastian Kuzminsky]

On 2/2/22 10:03 AM, Andy Howell wrote:


I based my impression of it getting close from reading mails about 
progressing in the Debian new release queue.


The project to get LinuxCNC included in the main Debian distribution is 
totally decoupled from the project to make the next release of LinuxCNC. 
 Do not take the Debian packaging progress as a sign that 2.9 is 
getting close to release.


It would be great if we could get LinuxCNC into Debian *and* finalize 
2.9 before the next major release of Debian is frozen.  That'll be 
Debian 12 "Bookworm", and it's probably a year or so away, I think.


The "get LinuxCNC into Debian" project (spearheaded by Steffen Möller 
and Petter Reinholdtsen of debian.org, thank you!!) is currently in the 
hands of the Debian ftpmasters group, which scrutinizes new packages 
before they get accepted.  The ftpmasters are currently swamped with all 
the new incoming packages that people want to add to Debian after the 
recent-ish release of Debian 11 Bullseye, and we must wait patiently.


The "release the next version of LinuxCNC" is something we should 
probably start thinking and talking about internally...  I'll start a 
new thread for that.



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Sebastian Kuzminsky


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Re: [Emc-users] 2.8 or 2.9?

[Andy Howell]

On 2/2/22 04:20, andy pugh wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 at 05:38, Andy Howell  wrote:


I maintain a gantry style CNC router for our high school robotics team.
Tonight our hard disk died. I need to decide what version to install.
From reading the list, it looks like 2.9 is close to release. My
preference would be to go with that. Any reason I should go with 2.8.2
instead?

2.8.2 is tested, released, and known-good

2.9 is in development, might sometimes break, and contains
under-tested features.
As far as I know we don't even have a 2.9 release manager yet, so I
would not really describe it as "close to release"

Unless you need a feature that is in 2.9 but not 2.8 then I would 
suggest 2.8.


Andy,

I based my impression of it getting close from reading mails about 
progressing in the Debian new release queue. While I don't have specific 
2.9 features I need, the move to python 3 is plus. I'll give it a try. 
If I run into issues I can always fall back to 2.8.


Thanks,

Andy




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Re: [Emc-users] 2.8 or 2.9?

[Andy Howell]

On 2/2/22 02:24, gene heskett wrote:

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 12:15:59 AM EST Andy Howell wrote:

Hello,

I maintain a gantry style CNC router for our high school robotics
team. Tonight our hard disk died. I need to decide what version to
install. From reading the list, it looks like 2.9 is close to release.
My preference would be to go with that. Any reason I should go with
2.8.2 instead?


First off, replace that spinning rust with an SSD, they are 5 to 6x
faster than spinning rust. A 240Gigger is around 45 bucks and its plenty
big enough. I have done that to all of my machines, one is even running
on a 4 yo 60 gigger. zero problems.

And yes, 2.9-pre is solid.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.


Gene,

Thanks. I have a SSD that I'm going to repurpose for it. The computer is 
old, from 2013, but still works fine. Its an Intel Atom D2550. I 
installed 2.9 in a virtual machine awhile back just to play with it. I 
can't remember, but I think I installed the Buster 2.8.2 image first, 
and then installed 2.9 over that. Is that the recommended route?


Thanks,

Andy




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Re: [Emc-users] 2.8 or 2.9?

[andy pugh]

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 at 05:38, Andy Howell  wrote:

> I maintain a gantry style CNC  router for our high school robotics team.
> Tonight our hard disk died. I need to decide what version to install.
>  From reading the list, it looks like 2.9 is close to release. My
> preference would be to go with that. Any reason I should go with 2.8.2
> instead?

2.8.2 is tested, released, and known-good

2.9 is in development, might sometimes break, and contains
under-tested features.
As far as I know we don't even have a 2.9 release manager yet, so I
would not really describe it as "close to release"

Unless you need a feature that is in 2.9 but not 2.8 then I would suggest 2.8.

-- 
atp
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designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912


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Re: [Emc-users] 2.8 or 2.9?

[gene heskett]

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 12:15:59 AM EST Andy Howell wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I maintain a gantry style CNC  router for our high school robotics
> team. Tonight our hard disk died. I need to decide what version to
> install. From reading the list, it looks like 2.9 is close to release.
> My preference would be to go with that. Any reason I should go with
> 2.8.2 instead?
> 
First off, replace that spinning rust with an SSD, they are 5 to 6x 
faster than spinning rust. A 240Gigger is around 45 bucks and its plenty 
big enough. I have done that to all of my machines, one is even running 
on a 4 yo 60 gigger. zero problems.

And yes, 2.9-pre is solid.

> The machine was running 2.5. Time for an upgrade either way.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> 
> 
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