Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-09 Thread propcoder
2013.08.09 14:49, Peter C. Wallace rašė:
> You can do this either by connecting the 8I20s to the 7I77s sserial expansion
> port (the 5I25 will very likely have sserial firmware > R33 and if not you
> can update it via mesaflash), or installing updated rmsvss6_8 firmware for the
> 5I23. I can make a up to date version of this today

I'll do as you'll say.


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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-09 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, propcoder wrote:

> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:25:34 +0300
> From: propcoder 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal
> 
> Dear Peter,
>
> continuing the topic, could you please help me to update firmware (in
> case they need one) of the boards I have:
> 3x 5i23
> 6x 8i20
> 1x 7i49
> 1x 5i25
> 1x 7i77
> 1x 7i37
> a lot of 7i39-HV


Only the 8i20 and possibly the 7I77 if its sserial remote firmware is older 
than R14 need updating

>
> I can give you remote access to my PCs. What tools do you prefer? I can
> run TeamViewer for example..
>
> What I am working now on and met a problem is a setup of 5i23, 7i44,
> 7i49, 7i37 and 6x 8i20.
>
> This is what I started to write you as I went through 8i20 update way:
>
> To help make your README and update tools better:
> Change sudo ./installss to sudo ./ssinstall
> You can put a note about path and making ssinstall executable
> Change /bin to /lib inside ssinstall
> Write where to find host FPGA firmware sserial version (I don't know)
> You could note / put a link to info what is master version of LinuxCNC
> Note about executable for update* files
> Note that user has to specify path to firmware file or copy it or script
> to one dir. Or change the script to take firmware from default location.

OK I will fix these

The host FPGA firmware sserial version is printed in the kernel log
(read with dmesg)

>
> And then I stopped at:
> [ 7317.595333] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15
> [ 7317.599591] hm2_pci: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 driver version 0.7
> [ 7317.599653] hm2_pci :01:06.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 20 (level, low) ->
> IRQ 20
> [ 7317.599659] hm2_pci: discovered 5i23 at :01:06.0
> [ 7317.599743]  hm2_5i23.0: firmware: requesting hm2/5i23/rmsvss6_8.bit
> [ 7317.858875] hm2/hm2_5i23.0: Smart Serial Firmware Version 31
> [ 7317.858884] hm2/hm2_5i23.0: Setting baudrate is not supported in the
> current firmware version
> [ 7317.858887] Version must be > v33 and you have version
> 31.hm2/hm2_5i23.0: failed to parse Module Descriptor 4


Yes you need host sserial version >33 to allow setsserial to set the
baud rate (needed to access the remote in setup mode)

>
>
> I tried to run SC9054W.exe for 5i23. Drivers do not install on Win7 64.
> And SC9054W.exe does not run on WinXP 32. And I don't know where to get
> new sserial firmware files.
>
sc9054 should run on XP32 (it does here) but you will need to boot win7 64 in 
development mode to run sc9054. However, sc9054 will not help with updating 
the remote sserial firmware. If you want to update the 8I20 firmware via 
windows I would use a usb-serial adapter and the uflbp utility.

I do think its easier to do this via linuxcnc however (no funny serial 
cables so update in place with your existing setup)

You can do this either by connecting the 8I20s to the 7I77s sserial expansion 
port (the 5I25 will very likely have sserial firmware > R33 and if not you 
can update it via mesaflash), or installing updated rmsvss6_8 firmware for the 
5I23. I can make a up to date version of this today




> On 08/09/2013 12:24 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, propcoder wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:01:54 +0300
>>> From: propcoder 
>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>>  
>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal
>>>
>>> Peter, I am looking forward on getting one (together with brief update
>> instructions).
>>
>> www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/sserial.zip
>> Has the latest 8I20 firmware (R11)
>>
>> You will need LinuxCNC master and  a sserial FPGA bitfile with a version of
>> SSLBP newer than rev 33 to update via linuxcnc/standard bitfile/daughtercard
>> /cables (update in place) using setsserial (take a look at the README file in
>> utils/linuxcnc)
>>
>> You can also update the firmware using the windows utility uflbp and a
>> USB/serial adapter
>>
>>
>> Also note that the RPD/WPD utilities in the sserial.zip file
>> are not for the 8I20
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-09 Thread propcoder
Dear Peter,

continuing the topic, could you please help me to update firmware (in 
case they need one) of the boards I have:
3x 5i23
6x 8i20
1x 7i49
1x 5i25
1x 7i77
1x 7i37
a lot of 7i39-HV

I can give you remote access to my PCs. What tools do you prefer? I can 
run TeamViewer for example..

What I am working now on and met a problem is a setup of 5i23, 7i44, 
7i49, 7i37 and 6x 8i20.

This is what I started to write you as I went through 8i20 update way:

To help make your README and update tools better:
Change sudo ./installss to sudo ./ssinstall
You can put a note about path and making ssinstall executable
Change /bin to /lib inside ssinstall
Write where to find host FPGA firmware sserial version (I don't know)
You could note / put a link to info what is master version of LinuxCNC
Note about executable for update* files
Note that user has to specify path to firmware file or copy it or script 
to one dir. Or change the script to take firmware from default location.

And then I stopped at:
[ 7317.595333] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15
[ 7317.599591] hm2_pci: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 driver version 0.7
[ 7317.599653] hm2_pci :01:06.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> 
IRQ 20
[ 7317.599659] hm2_pci: discovered 5i23 at :01:06.0
[ 7317.599743]  hm2_5i23.0: firmware: requesting hm2/5i23/rmsvss6_8.bit
[ 7317.858875] hm2/hm2_5i23.0: Smart Serial Firmware Version 31
[ 7317.858884] hm2/hm2_5i23.0: Setting baudrate is not supported in the 
current firmware version
[ 7317.858887] Version must be > v33 and you have version 
31.hm2/hm2_5i23.0: failed to parse Module Descriptor 4


I tried to run SC9054W.exe for 5i23. Drivers do not install on Win7 64. 
And SC9054W.exe does not run on WinXP 32. And I don't know where to get 
new sserial firmware files.

On 08/09/2013 12:24 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, propcoder wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:01:54 +0300
>> From: propcoder 
>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>      
>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal
>>
>> Peter, I am looking forward on getting one (together with brief update
> instructions).
>
> www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/sserial.zip
> Has the latest 8I20 firmware (R11)
>
> You will need LinuxCNC master and  a sserial FPGA bitfile with a version of
> SSLBP newer than rev 33 to update via linuxcnc/standard bitfile/daughtercard
> /cables (update in place) using setsserial (take a look at the README file in
> utils/linuxcnc)
>
> You can also update the firmware using the windows utility uflbp and a
> USB/serial adapter
>
>
> Also note that the RPD/WPD utilities in the sserial.zip file
> are not for the 8I20
>
>


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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-08 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, propcoder wrote:

> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:01:54 +0300
> From: propcoder 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal
> 
> Peter, I am looking forward on getting one (together with brief update 
instructions).

www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/sserial.zip
Has the latest 8I20 firmware (R11)

You will need LinuxCNC master and  a sserial FPGA bitfile with a version of
SSLBP newer than rev 33 to update via linuxcnc/standard bitfile/daughtercard
/cables (update in place) using setsserial (take a look at the README file in
utils/linuxcnc)

You can also update the firmware using the windows utility uflbp and a 
USB/serial adapter


Also note that the RPD/WPD utilities in the sserial.zip file
are not for the 8I20


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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-08 Thread propcoder
Peter, I am looking forward on getting one (together with brief update 
instructions).

2013.08.07 00:36, Peter C. Wallace rašė:
> We should have updated firmware tommorow that fixes the enable



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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 11:22, propcoder  wrote:

>> Docs for Master are here:http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/
>
> Yes, but I can't find a word about 8i20 there.

"For full details of the smart-serial devices see man sserial."
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/sserial.9.html

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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread propcoder
2013.08.07 12:07, andy pugh rašė:
> Docs for Master are here:http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/

Yes, but I can't find a word about 8i20 there.


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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 10:05, andy pugh  wrote:

>> find 8i20 is http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#8i20
>
> That's the 2.5.3 documentation.

Docs for Master are here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/

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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 03:55, propcoder  wrote:

> I mean driver parameters and pins and latest hostmot2 manual, where I
> find 8i20 is http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#8i20

That's the 2.5.3 documentation.
>
> Now I checked command "man sserial" and found:

> hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-maxlim
> hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-minlim
> hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-scalemax

You are running master:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingConfigurationsForDevelopmentVersions

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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-06 Thread propcoder
Did you read this:

On 08/07/2013 07:08 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> Take a look at "max_current" - it does not exist. There are three
>>parameters current-maxlim, current-minlim, current-scalemax instead.
>>
>>While in man9 we can see description of pin "(bit, in) amp-enable
>>Set this pin high to enable the drive.", which I can't find in my halshow.


?


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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013, propcoder wrote:

> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 05:55:54 +0300
> From: propcoder 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal
> 
>
>
> On 08/07/2013 12:36 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>>> Despite real and described in manual 8i20 pinout differences, I managed
>>>> to run servo motor. So, the first question: why manual and pinout differs?
>> Which pinout differences? I am not aware of any
>
> I mean driver parameters and pins and latest hostmot2 manual, where I
> find 8i20 is http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#8i20

I dont think any of the NV parameters are settable as normal HAL pins (nor 
should they be) though setsserial may be be able to access them


>
> Now I checked command "man sserial" and found:
> "...
>Parameters:
>   The following parameters are exported. See the pdf
> documentation
>   downloadable from Mesa for further details
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.angle-maxlim
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.angle-minlim
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.angle-scalemax
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-maxlim
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-minlim
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-scalemax
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbrakeoffv
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbrakeonv
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbusoverv
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbusundervmax
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbusundervmin
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkdihi
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkdil
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkdilo
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkdp
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkqihi
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkqil
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkqilo
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkqp
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvmaxcurrent
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvrembaudrate
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.swrevision
>hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.unitnumber
>
>(float, rw) max_current
>   Sets the maximum drive current in Amps. The default value
> is the
>   maximum current programmed into the drive EEPROM. The
> value must
>   be positive, and an error will be raised if a current in
>  excess
>   of the drive maximum is requested.
> ..."
>
> Take a look at "max_current" - it does not exist. There are three
> parameters current-maxlim, current-minlim, current-scalemax instead.
>
> While in man9 we can see description of pin "(bit, in) amp-enable
> Set this pin high to enable the drive.", which I can't find in my halshow.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Another strange thing I noticed is that 8i20 does not react to enable
>>>> input. I drive it with 12V (Enable in + and Enable in -), but it does
>>>> not makes sense. It turns on at LinuxCNC startup and turns off at
>>>> LinuxCNC shutdown instead. I almost fried my motor, thinking the drive
>>>> was turned off.
>>
>> That should not be.
>>
>> We made a change in enable and enable masks recently for an OEM
>> and possible broke something or have a dependence on EEPROM setup that we
>> should not have.
>>
>> We should have updated firmware tommorow that fixes the enable
>>
>
> I think you found the right reason. Will wait for the fixes.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-06 Thread propcoder
I wired enable input correctly and measured the voltage between en- and 
en+ with multimeter - they get 0 or 12V depending on LinuxCNC power state.

On 08/07/2013 12:43 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> I am not sure about the rest, but because the enable inputs are
> separate, they need to be driven by GPIO rather than anything that the
> driver sends down the serial link.


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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-06 Thread propcoder


On 08/07/2013 12:36 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>> Despite real and described in manual 8i20 pinout differences, I managed
>> >to run servo motor. So, the first question: why manual and pinout differs?
> Which pinout differences? I am not aware of any

I mean driver parameters and pins and latest hostmot2 manual, where I 
find 8i20 is http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#8i20

Now I checked command "man sserial" and found:
"...
Parameters:
   The following parameters are exported. See the pdf 
documentation
   downloadable from Mesa for further details
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.angle-maxlim
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.angle-minlim
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.angle-scalemax
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-maxlim
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-minlim
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.current-scalemax
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbrakeoffv
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbrakeonv
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbusoverv
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbusundervmax
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvbusundervmin
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkdihi
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkdil
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkdilo
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkdp
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkqihi
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkqil
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkqilo
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvkqp
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvmaxcurrent
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.nvrembaudrate
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.swrevision
hm2_5i25.0.8i20.0.1.unitnumber

(float, rw) max_current
   Sets the maximum drive current in Amps. The default value 
is the
   maximum current programmed into the drive EEPROM. The 
value must
   be positive, and an error will be raised if a current in 
  excess
   of the drive maximum is requested.
..."

Take a look at "max_current" - it does not exist. There are three 
parameters current-maxlim, current-minlim, current-scalemax instead.

While in man9 we can see description of pin "(bit, in) amp-enable
Set this pin high to enable the drive.", which I can't find in my halshow.

>
>> >
>> >Another strange thing I noticed is that 8i20 does not react to enable
>> >input. I drive it with 12V (Enable in + and Enable in -), but it does
>> >not makes sense. It turns on at LinuxCNC startup and turns off at
>> >LinuxCNC shutdown instead. I almost fried my motor, thinking the drive
>> >was turned off.
>
> That should not be.
>
> We made a change in enable and enable masks recently for an OEM
> and possible broke something or have a dependence on EEPROM setup that we
> should not have.
>
> We should have updated firmware tommorow that fixes the enable
>

I think you found the right reason. Will wait for the fixes.


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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 20:55, propcoder  wrote:

> I couldn't find any input pin on 8i20 for enable too.

I am not sure about the rest, but because the enable inputs are
separate, they need to be driven by GPIO rather than anything that the
driver sends down the serial link.

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Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, propcoder wrote:

> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 22:55:41 +0300
> From: propcoder 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal
> 
> I am starting new config with MESA 5i23, 7i49 and 8i20. I use latest dev
> version.
>
> Despite real and described in manual 8i20 pinout differences, I managed
> to run servo motor. So, the first question: why manual and pinout differs?

Which pinout differences? I am not aware of any

>
> Another strange thing I noticed is that 8i20 does not react to enable
> input. I drive it with 12V (Enable in + and Enable in -), but it does
> not makes sense. It turns on at LinuxCNC startup and turns off at
> LinuxCNC shutdown instead. I almost fried my motor, thinking the drive
> was turned off.


That should not be.

We made a change in enable and enable masks recently for an OEM
and possible broke something or have a dependence on EEPROM setup that we 
should not have.

We should have updated firmware tommorow that fixes the enable

>
> I couldn't find any input pin on 8i20 for enable too.
>
>
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