Re: [Emc-users] Retrofitting scara robot
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:06:10 -0500
> From: TJoseph Powderly
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Retrofitting scara robot
>
> 50% sounds high!
> manufacturers are NOT interested in old equipment running.
> what i got is scrounged off service techs and the web.
>
>
> hey, thx for the reality check
> if i tried to keep those encoders, i'd need spcl
> code to read them, plus they need an initialization
> messaging on startup and home. replacing them is smart
> thx tomp tjtr33
Note that its not always a win to replace the original encoders, many encoders
used on robototics are absolute (and include commutation data) plus newer ones
(mid 90s and after) can have much higher resolution than is possible with
quadrature encoders (due to quadrature frequency limitations)
>
> On 09/09/2014 04:08 PM, Marius Alksnys wrote:
>>
>> On 2014.09.09 23:26, TJoseph Powderly wrote:
>>> get something with documents
>>> its not just the motor and driver that can bite you.
>>>
>> Do you think it would be very hard to get those documents?
>> My luck in getting old (18 to 32 year old) machine documents from
>> manufacturer is about 50%. Sometimes it costs.
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Retrofitting scara robot
50% sounds high! manufacturers are NOT interested in old equipment running. what i got is scrounged off service techs and the web. hey, thx for the reality check if i tried to keep those encoders, i'd need spcl code to read them, plus they need an initialization messaging on startup and home. replacing them is smart thx tomp tjtr33 On 09/09/2014 04:08 PM, Marius Alksnys wrote: On 2014.09.09 23:26, TJoseph Powderly wrote: get something with documents its not just the motor and driver that can bite you. Do you think it would be very hard to get those documents? My luck in getting old (18 to 32 year old) machine documents from manufacturer is about 50%. Sometimes it costs. -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofitting scara robot
On 2014.09.09 23:26, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > get something with documents > its not just the motor and driver that can bite you. > Do you think it would be very hard to get those documents? My luck in getting old (18 to 32 year old) machine documents from manufacturer is about 50%. Sometimes it costs. -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce. Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofitting scara robot
On 2014.09.09 23:26, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > Marius > get something with documents > its not just the motor and driver that can bite you. > i got a 6dof with Sanyo Denki planetary drives > and the encoder output is proprietary 'panasonic A' > never did get that decoded And how hard it would be to replace encoders? What is the model of the robot? :) -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce. Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofitting scara robot
Marius get something with documents its not just the motor and driver that can bite you. i got a 6dof with Sanyo Denki planetary drives and the encoder output is proprietary 'panasonic A' never did get that decoded i have screenshots and devices to capture the data hm, hey! I got a cheap robot for you ;) just kidding best of luck TomP tjtr33 09/09/2014 02:50 PM, Marius Alksnys wrote: > Maybe someone knows what motors are in these robots? And how to find > their documents? > The last one has a line in description, saying "AC servo motors with > harmonic drives". If there are AC servo motors - what optimal price > solution would you suggest in case when there is no old electronics? > > > SEIKO Scara Robot ES651C > http://www.ebay.com/itm/321228772276?_trksid=p2054502.m570.l4456&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI321228772276.N8.S1.M785.R1.TR3 > > Epson Scara Robot E2L653E > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epson-Scara-Robot-E2L653E-With-Connector/321228683817?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24351%26meid%3D79f2149b96c34c2e858e9971d604e291%26pid%3D15%26prg%3D10335%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D321228772276&rt=nc > > Seiko Epson D-Train TT8550 > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-Epson-D-Train-TT8550-4-Axis-SCARA-Robot-Payload-5kg/121062787966?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24351%26meid%3D79f2149b96c34c2e858e9971d604e291%26pid%3D15%26prg%3D10335%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D321228772276&rt=nc > > > -- > Want excitement? > Manually upgrade your production database. > When you want reliability, choose Perforce. > Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce. Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofitting scara robot
On 9 September 2014 20:50, Marius Alksnys wrote: > Seiko Epson D-Train TT8550 > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-Epson-D-Train-TT8550-4-Axis-SCARA-Robot-Payload-5kg/121062787966?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24351%26meid%3D79f2149b96c34c2e858e9971d604e291%26pid%3D15%26prg%3D10335%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D321228772276&rt=nc Cheaper: http://www.bid-on-equipment.com/Item/191531~EPSON+TT8550+Pick+and+Place.htm#.VA9fJ0sf8v0 Depending on the voltage and current the Mesa 7i39 might work. If voltage/current is higher than the 7i30 can do then the Pico amps are an option, The Mesa 8i20 (2.2kW) is probably overkill. Otherwise, look at AMD brushless drives. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce. Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
