Re: [Emc-users] Versa
On 10/25/2014 08:33 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 10/25/2014 08:14 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 10/25/2014 07:12 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: On 10/25/2014 09:05 PM, Ed wrote: On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip[ Thank you Ed and Tom. I'll post pictures and dimensions tomorrow morning. I recall the seal being 1 OD, .75 ID and .103 wide, but I'll make sure before I post the pictures. ... snip Here is the u-seal picture and dimensions of the slot that it fits into. http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/shizuoka_arm_valve-1a.png http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/shizuoka_arm_valve-1a.svg -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Versa
On 10/26/2014 11:04 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 10/25/2014 08:33 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 10/25/2014 08:14 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 10/25/2014 07:12 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: On 10/25/2014 09:05 PM, Ed wrote: On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip[ Thank you Ed and Tom. I'll post pictures and dimensions tomorrow morning. I recall the seal being 1 OD, .75 ID and .103 wide, but I'll make sure before I post the pictures. ... snip Here is the u-seal picture and dimensions of the slot that it fits into. http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/shizuoka_arm_valve-1a.png http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/shizuoka_arm_valve-1a.svg I replaced most of the seals and put a few decent ones back in. When I tested the valve, it behaved the same -- leaking a lot of exhaust air and not moving the arm. Further investigation indicated the cylinder seals are leaking badly. http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/shizuoka_arm_cylinder-1a.jpg The left half is the air side which pushes or pulls the arm. The right half has hydraulic fluid and a petcock that sets the air push/pull rate and damps motion. Now I'm another week out of commission to order and wait for more seals. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Versa
On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453 The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings and the X-rings. BTW here: http://www.theoringstore.com/ But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of the shuttle. Like this: http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=172_997_1011 Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get? Thank you. When you say shuttle do you mean piston of the cylinder? I deal a lot in seals of that type, get me: Seal OD (bore of cyl ) Seal ID (diameter at bottom of groove) Seal width Ed. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Versa
On 10/25/2014 09:05 PM, Ed wrote: On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453 The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings and the X-rings. BTW here: http://www.theoringstore.com/ But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of the shuttle. Like this: http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=172_997_1011 Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get? Thank you. When you say shuttle do you mean piston of the cylinder? I deal a lot in seals of that type, get me: Seal OD (bore of cyl ) Seal ID (diameter at bottom of groove) Seal width Ed. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users and note any reinforcement ( some cup seals have metal bands or ring springs in addition to the soft bit ) oh and if you use any lube in the air (viton vs butyl vs rubber can react ) pix is always good tomp tjtr33 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Versa
On 10/25/2014 07:12 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: On 10/25/2014 09:05 PM, Ed wrote: On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453 The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings and the X-rings. BTW here: http://www.theoringstore.com/ But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of the shuttle. Like this: http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=172_997_1011 Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get? Thank you. When you say shuttle do you mean piston of the cylinder? I deal a lot in seals of that type, get me: Seal OD (bore of cyl ) Seal ID (diameter at bottom of groove) Seal width Ed. ... snip and note any reinforcement ( some cup seals have metal bands or ring springs in addition to the soft bit ) oh and if you use any lube in the air (viton vs butyl vs rubber can react ) pix is always good tomp tjtr33 Thank you Ed and Tom. I'll post pictures and dimensions tomorrow morning. I recall the seal being 1 OD, .75 ID and .103 wide, but I'll make sure before I post the pictures. Instead of shuttle, I think I meant to call it a bobbin which actually may be a hydraulics term. The valve body has a .43 diameter rod which has a short 1 diameter piston screwed to each end. Each piston is driven by a solenoid. I need the two piston seals. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Versa
On 10/25/2014 08:14 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 10/25/2014 07:12 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: On 10/25/2014 09:05 PM, Ed wrote: On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453 The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings and the X-rings. BTW here: http://www.theoringstore.com/ But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of the shuttle. Like this: http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=172_997_1011 Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get? Thank you. When you say shuttle do you mean piston of the cylinder? I deal a lot in seals of that type, get me: Seal OD (bore of cyl ) Seal ID (diameter at bottom of groove) Seal width Ed. ... snip and note any reinforcement ( some cup seals have metal bands or ring springs in addition to the soft bit ) oh and if you use any lube in the air (viton vs butyl vs rubber can react ) pix is always good tomp tjtr33 Thank you Ed and Tom. I'll post pictures and dimensions tomorrow morning. I recall the seal being 1 OD, .75 ID and .103 wide, but I'll make sure before I post the pictures. Instead of shuttle, I think I meant to call it a bobbin which actually may be a hydraulics term. The valve body has a .43 diameter rod which has a short 1 diameter piston screwed to each end. Each piston is driven by a solenoid. I need the two piston seals. Ugh, I think I finally got the correct word... SPOOL -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users