Re: [Enigmail] expired keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02.02.14 14:57, Philip Jackson wrote: Hi, Thanks for the replies from Patrick, Sebastian and Nicolai. (I don't really understand the comment about standard for showing / hiding columns in Thunderbird but that doesn't really matter.) I do know how to change the display in Key Manager now and clearly, other people do not find the problem I have. I know about resizing column widths using the mouse to move the borders. I also know about the horizontal slider which appears at the same time as the 'Name' column shoots out of sight on the left-hand side - unfortunately the slider only lets me move further to the right. I'll attach a couple of screenshots to illustrate my problem. KeyManager1.png : shows the key manager window with 4 columns : Name, KeyID, Type, Key Validity. I have adjusted the column widths nicely and there is plenty of room to the right of 'Key Validity' for the next column to be added. There is no horizontal scroll bar. All seems well. KeyManager2.png : shows what happens immediately after asking for 'Owner trust' to be displayed. 'Name' has disappeared far left. The horizontal scroll bar has appeared and can only move the display to the right (because the new column, Owner trust, has been drawn far too wide). I haven't done anything else than ask for Owner trust to be displayed. I really don't see your problem -- except that your default column widths seem to be corrupt. Just start with the key validity column and make it smaller, then do the same with the owner trust column. This same problems happens if I select any one of Owner trust or Expiry or Fingerprint. Each of those, alone, is drawn with a column width so large that 'name' disappears to the left and cannot be brought back in. The horizontal scroll bar can be moved to the right but eventually all I am left with is a clear window. There doesn't appear to be a way of dragging the right edge of the very wide column towards the left to reduce its width. There is ... you have to drag the column border on the _left_ side of the rightmost column to make it smaller (not my decision -- Thunderbird standard functionality...) - -Patrick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEVAwUBUu5nfsk25cDiHiw+AQjC1QgArh01/ieKfqg+Pnw9xo2PFx0frdWOOb3R NZk7R477Bbg7m3vmd+UR1Js2KLUH/rn9pW/EnMCIJQOczrLVvfDSrqqXBXoTEcq1 hJOKAIhC/Yq158teb/q24EdbzT4jb6SguOALAP7gbzVisJHo+quXc3L9ujrPCnbG s/4Vyxg2AnVx7mXmrE2cVQjZfK7zPiTj/dS1JhJ360c2r47cp22a67CW0IkxYjQ0 UodzftEiISZH5dG48aWMAPhuvCqyED3TJPaJ8grCkir1RhJgwN3sTtXhmyF3n9i+ wn7U5pbNelglcn9YTdCqvw34+mlkXJyzrUKy9v9CO+bsLzq+2xs87w== =L+PV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] keymanager - column display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/2014 20:31, David wrote: On 2/2/2014 12:40 PM, Philip Jackson wrote: Hi : I have now managed by pulling and pushing borders to get a display of key manager with 5 columns : Name, KeyID, Type, Key validity, Expiry. This is quite acceptable. On 02/02/2014 16:42, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: There is ... you have to drag the column border on the _left_ side of the rightmost column to make it smaller (not my decision -- Thunderbird standard functionality...) When I add 'fingerprint', 'name' shoves off the left hand side. You are quite right that by dragging the border on the left-hand side of the rightmost wide fingerprint column, I can reduce its width. But the result just pushes the excess width to the second right column. Grabbing the left-hand border of the 2nd right column and dragging to the right just pushes the rightmost column out of the window. You can get it back by using the scroll button but then you lose the left hand columns. The problem seems to come down to this :-- the 'name' column has not disappeared but has collapsed down to leaving a small trace - the up/down arrow which is situated at the right-hand edge of each column and which indicates the sorting direction. A single click on this remnant does change the sorting direction correctly (ie according to 'name' values). Also visible is the series of small arrows, the expand gadget, normally at the left-hand edge of the name column and which serves to expand each key. These also work but additional IDs are not visible because the name column no longer has the width needed. This remnant of the collapsed 'name' column can just be seen in the image keymanager2.png attached to my previous email. In Thunderbird, for the email fields, I have 19 possible optional columns in addition to the 'subject' column (equivalent to 'name' in enigmail ie the column which cannot be deselected). I can select all 19 optional columns at the same time without the 'subject' column collapsing. Of course, even if I expand Thunderbird to full screen, you get very limited info in some of the columns. But they are all visible. My conclusion is that there must be some difference in the implementation of the key manager display and the Thunderbird display. But since this does not seem to affect anyone else, and I now have an acceptable display of Key Manager, there seems no point in continuing this thread. Thank you all for your assistance in helping me get a better display. In the top right corner the is an area with a '-' sign for minimuse and a square box to full screen and a red 'X' to close. Can you display what all you want when you click the 'square'? David : no - full screen mode doesn't change anything. The problem seems to be that the 'name' column (enigmail's key manager default column) collapses at the left hand edge of the key manager window. See comments above re: Thunderbird's behaviour when all mail (20) columns are opened. Philip -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS7qasAAoJECa9UAojVDpjKLcIAJecTl/IJIE4MMPwInGjna5I YqsNGsf29Lie3eZG8MmjtDLNZ4LO7zJ7O7Tolv4Ut31jZaS85yWxIYpA7MU5633b hHI/U0Ixbr55hObDj8sS7mTVijNQ1X+uh1J8o8c1OlH1X20w51lwIpEReKPm0sJ9 lQ8RmCEgRCEHk8tjIk7k1L1OE4AUiSbHiN1h15cgTJ9yQeIn7IkYHm9OObtYmbl6 hVI55Na7AL+sBnCYTPULiFqWtfIajBs9AgVDGkhq/qNgSp4UMvKxfUmqYn0M07Iy 3PFnzsFq2v/1zXEj1cEcjMWxHsEWLO8vNTxXxhVY/5HspaYQ1NOohvyxYHDzW7A= =EKBj -END PGP SIGNATURE- 0x23543A63.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] keymanager - column display
On 02.02.14 18:40, Philip Jackson wrote: (...) My conclusion is that there must be some difference in the implementation of the key manager display and the Thunderbird display. No, there isn't. (...) But since this does not seem to affect anyone else I just managed to make the name column what you call collapse. In fact, the column separator between name and Key ID does not vanish completely. Pull here, and the name column will be visible again. HTH Ludwig attachment: Keymanager_columns.jpg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Key Manager - column display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/02/2014 06:50 AM, Philip Jackson wrote: | - in enigmail, I tried the right click but it doesn't work. It | took me a while to spot the icon. It would be nice if right click on the column headers worked in the appropriate enigmail dialogs (like the key manager) as well. ... and one more request, can we get the keyring included in the key manager? Both in the column listing and in the key properties dialog would be nice. Reason being that I organize my keys by which ring they are in, and knowing that when I'm looking at them in the key manager would be really useful. Doug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJS7rRPAAoJEFzGhvEaGryEolcIALwa2/NYXzjWHPP915Xs10pN 3PMFEX4f5JJUyf+8PXitEtW5MFg1jWpT6IUSyB0nFPuNaF8Kws/5Q0Wkv/xcJKUb WUr6eJe/sFx8nnuLY2I2lTnGVwVjqFifd2NaPDJH8exG5niTiadZ8njWtKVjwlH9 kQIu77d+IdRf4vUufd7z5QZ425Ja6jVhQ4kZ75gho12yV9xbldVmuOUi5aiTCPrI ABmDDw7M/baR5vX+7UFE7TuVQgZh52FlrbgPyeW5uXkl2Qq5EiLtShPGw8Cvspm6 qc2cnXHDdI2NuLFwmJUACt7uK25jIKdkl8yPsdicRM/Un8EPMrlojRq/43UcME4= =Tn5Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] keymanager - column display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/2/2014 3:12 PM, Philip Jackson wrote: On 02/02/2014 20:31, David wrote: On 2/2/2014 12:40 PM, Philip Jackson wrote: Hi : I have now managed by pulling and pushing borders to get a display of key manager with 5 columns : Name, KeyID, Type, Key validity, Expiry. This is quite acceptable. On 02/02/2014 16:42, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: There is ... you have to drag the column border on the _left_ side of the rightmost column to make it smaller (not my decision -- Thunderbird standard functionality...) When I add 'fingerprint', 'name' shoves off the left hand side. You are quite right that by dragging the border on the left-hand side of the rightmost wide fingerprint column, I can reduce its width. But the result just pushes the excess width to the second right column. Grabbing the left-hand border of the 2nd right column and dragging to the right just pushes the rightmost column out of the window. You can get it back by using the scroll button but then you lose the left hand columns. The problem seems to come down to this :-- the 'name' column has not disappeared but has collapsed down to leaving a small trace - the up/down arrow which is situated at the right-hand edge of each column and which indicates the sorting direction. A single click on this remnant does change the sorting direction correctly (ie according to 'name' values). Also visible is the series of small arrows, the expand gadget, normally at the left-hand edge of the name column and which serves to expand each key. These also work but additional IDs are not visible because the name column no longer has the width needed. This remnant of the collapsed 'name' column can just be seen in the image keymanager2.png attached to my previous email. In Thunderbird, for the email fields, I have 19 possible optional columns in addition to the 'subject' column (equivalent to 'name' in enigmail ie the column which cannot be deselected). I can select all 19 optional columns at the same time without the 'subject' column collapsing. Of course, even if I expand Thunderbird to full screen, you get very limited info in some of the columns. But they are all visible. My conclusion is that there must be some difference in the implementation of the key manager display and the Thunderbird display. But since this does not seem to affect anyone else, and I now have an acceptable display of Key Manager, there seems no point in continuing this thread. Thank you all for your assistance in helping me get a better display. In the top right corner the is an area with a '-' sign for minimuse and a square box to full screen and a red 'X' to close. Can you display what all you want when you click the 'square'? David : no - full screen mode doesn't change anything. The problem seems to be that the 'name' column (enigmail's key manager default column) collapses at the left hand edge of the key manager window. See comments above re: Thunderbird's behaviour when all mail (20) columns are opened. Philip Perhaps I did not say that clearly. If you make the window full screen you have much, much more visable display to modify by sliding the columns starting point left and right. - -- David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJS7riXAAoJEI7mbDIOYu+oWggP/i2HNxPh3i5hZAVorUzgb9Nw Z4SzxWiQLJ1jbUraLwDcBMu/2xjWie/h886k353kkgv7PaLUd7tNZVr3+mMK9GpR 5ot1QC4yb0zlVdO0soOKcmvueTrmNYUcavhAL7SSC2lASr9t95IUB/BhbC8vue+c gHZ64hRqvZnvV7Bdxj5XgPinBt2kobSZ2Fb6/5n1MKQTBji8EE6MldgGK2FPobjm wEdMkLIhOVEkGULyZDvE9WBYYQJ5GqXLK7brScYXPDZUUNnGAynzTAV+BZwKl+or l18UT2yXNNTCwZ4loZ9nzDD/iGqNrN+NGrPg1k/CYxK/mo09aUeFDdRq5uM6pGIS LBi0wh5H3eplsdquC9jd7bK6Mfo9edXQz9POb8rXQW43gqLrPL4QQnOnuH7/cPvg M23Nm007zueiASb8hAiOCJE3YsvEvEJW6Fi/UxfWmI1aasGvSYZo9Uw825or5td0 TI6b1+VnRk2HDATbjV7pyEykxw1FMkM6bankm1DfumTWG5rVeaPMTRnAmmue0KWP KUDJIyfSlUlaBxxLXCV6qSHq+W3op72TScJDY93/blVFqCLPY2G95X+y1dlhxSGb 99NhCwqOc+AFRiIaV5++1AZzuJ2Xh7BD1MdLgroe+DS7qW5vCt2DlAs7wZVhOEP5 3OIDZKXjM0uVk3rlY7eb =BtS6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] keymanager - column display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/2014 22:01, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote: On 02.02.14 18:40, Philip Jackson wrote: (...) My conclusion is that there must be some difference in the implementation of the key manager display and the Thunderbird display. No, there isn't. (...) But since this does not seem to affect anyone else I just managed to make the name column what you call collapse. In fact, the column separator between name and Key ID does not vanish completely. Pull here, and the name column will be visible again. HTH Ludwig Hi Ludwig, I was already able to see the column separator between name and KeyID - the cursor changes form to a small double headed arrow ( - ) but clicking/holding/sliding does not work for me on this one like it does on all the other columns. I can even click on what I called the small remnant of the collapsed name column and I can drag that to a position between the KeyID and Type columns. But even there I cannot drag it open. This remnant is the width of the expand gadget and its left-hand column margin can be dragged left and right to change the width of the KeyID column to its left. The right-hand column separator can still be seen but cannot be dragged. Clicking on the header changes the sort order and clicking on any expand gadget, creates a gap where additional IDs should be shown. I just had need to edit a per-recipient rule. That window displays perfectly and all columns can be adjusted. Thanks, Philip -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS7rk4AAoJECa9UAojVDpj6koH/04kKZxRZFioc7Rh+VHwxZYM kbTHTcedlxqtwTKqsem2VZ+CFcZcB6XsHVvabBNGtfQ0IdDEaOjaWQ4VWOzvl4k/ XwFrvo+jaC5Yqt+ksVqLW/waCvwXaNOL3FHbVKZ86fZ3W9OLhtPj3ohXKeC8S5JH mK5HACng76TZH69kwudJWNELYxDOvn9IbURyu4OWfO+XgCcoWGeG7+tygyL5oIfg M7Jf4G0gDMKpdhxBVWHtAFZWSrfRPY+6JcUt3YrTkXSNT8LEG480njZbJd3NqNCi FaBBJWeIZ2Twnd8gmx2AnAP1g3Z1fd/bIo/SvrfZXHRMs20R14TVSXo+SNo7LRE= =QI6w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] keymanager - column display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02.02.14 22:54, Philip Jackson wrote: Good news !! (...) I'm sorry for all the time you've wasted on my problem. Your strange experience maybe was the result of a corrupted localstore.rdf file (located in the profile directory). I once had strange window settings which were - other than in your case - not fixable by normal user action. I had to delete this file. Afterwards I had to readjust all window settings to my requirements, but Thunderbird was usable again :-) So: No waste of time; a hint for others searching for a solution in a similar painful situation... Ludwig -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJS7sHTAAoJEA52XAUJWdLj2egH/05mxIabpDBKe0GbQRLC5taC SqOmHNTYPcWeiBK1h6Py+O1b5wW0xJCMAcJodjiJ2i1Y41jsDlRSF7OistVdX2QY v1kJvKf4ltNr3664kFMo1JV+kKSudIaOpvIBvFvyuhpMjtzo8V/CgUkYwGg8gZMA 0ZaW+T3vxYY63m/JswKbtELzJSgoPqXB7bj6vPSUxM5C8mYeLbQg5k+J73ctyn1X kPWwQNEfjsP1KrehgxgSfJDCQQ6wibMMfyciWFWxpMIoqLQdbYCKEkpOe65EPMPv HbJ6lf2WE1711NYm/fXZjKz2Rb0QYeO8uBTczluukJI32+N4Smv+eS1E3YkLI6s= =f0HF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net