Re: [Enigmail] Initializing Enigmail takes a long time

2019-07-17 Thread Jean-David Beyer via enigmail-users
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On 7/17/19 2:59 PM, Jan-Peter R??hmann wrote:

> Hello
>
> Since some time the initializing of Enigmail takes between half an hour
> and two hours of time at every start of thunderbird.
> Why is that so and how can i make it work normaly again?
>
> Thanks,
>

It does?

I will sign this one. This will be my first use of enigmail today.

Enigmail 2.0.12
Thunderbird 60.8.0 (64-bit)

Enigmail did its thing almost instantly.

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Re: [Enigmail] Initializing Enigmail takes a long time

2019-07-17 Thread Jean-David Beyer via enigmail-users
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On 7/17/19 2:59 PM, Jan-Peter Rühmann wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Since some time the initializing of Enigmail takes between half an hour
> and two hours of time at every start of thunderbird.
> Why is that so and how can i make it work normaly again?
> 
> Thanks,
> 

It does?

I will sign this one. This will be my first use of enigmail today.

Enigmail 2.0.12
Thunderbird 60.8.0 (64-bit)

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Re: [Enigmail] Password dialogue always in English

2018-10-29 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 10/29/2018 11:54 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> So the question is: how far back must it go?  What would the changes
> look like if we were to write a new enigmail that depended explicitly on
> GnuPG >= 2.2.10?

It would all quit for my

Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.10 (Santiago)
gnupg2-2.0.14-9.el6_10.x86_64

System which is up-to-date as of this weekend. Red Hat support their
releases for 10 years from original release, and backport security
fixes, but tend do do no feature changes or "improvements."


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Re: [Enigmail] Can't sign email with Enigmail 2.0.8

2018-09-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 09/07/2018 02:48 AM, Per Gunnarsson wrote:
> I can't sign email with Enigmail 2.0.8
> 
> 
I think I can.


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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail 2.0.4 available - better protection against Efail

2018-05-16 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 05/16/2018 06:02 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> On 05/16/18 17:55, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> I installed this into my 52.7.0 (64-bit) Thunderbird and sent a signed
>> encrypted e-mail to myself. I received this and got, among other things,
>> this pop-up"
>>
>> GnuPG cannot query your passphrase via pinentry. This is a system setup
>> or configuration error that prevents Enigmail from working properly and
>> cannot be fixed automatically. We strongly recommend that you consult
>> our support web site at https://enigmail.net/faq.
>>
>>
>> Problem 1: when I go to https://enigmail.net/faq
>> I get
>>
>> Error 404 - Page not Found
>> We are sorry. The page you were looking for cannot be found.
> 
> 
> The link resolves and works for me.
> 

Must have been a temporary bug. It resolved before and does now, but
this time, instead of the 404, I get a help page.


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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail 2.0.4 available - better protection against Efail

2018-05-16 Thread Jean-David Beyer
I installed this into my 52.7.0 (64-bit) Thunderbird and sent a signed
encrypted e-mail to myself. I received this and got, among other things,
this pop-up"

GnuPG cannot query your passphrase via pinentry. This is a system setup
or configuration error that prevents Enigmail from working properly and
cannot be fixed automatically. We strongly recommend that you consult
our support web site at https://enigmail.net/faq.


Problem 1: when I go to https://enigmail.net/faq
I get

Error 404 - Page not Found
We are sorry. The page you were looking for cannot be found.


Problem 2.) If I put my passphrase into the pinentry dialog box, it
shows the decrypted message I sent to myself and indicates that it has a
good signature on it. I used Inline PGP option.

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Re: [Enigmail] Suggestion of RED and GREEN color signals in Enigmail-Confirm-Dialog-Box

2018-04-30 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 04/30/2018 07:51 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> By that the interpretation of the message box would not depend solely on
>> "reading its content" but simply by "watching the COLOR":
> 
> We're not going to make the primary way of conveying information to
> users one that will make it useless for people with red-green
> colorblindness.  We'll cheerfully consider suggestions for making the
> text better, though!
> 

A friend of mine is completely blind and has lots of problems using her
computer. It has a text-to-speech package on it that helps, but it is a
complete disaster with fancy html web-sites, and when they use colors,
blinking, etc., she cannot use it at all.

Now she never uses Enigmail or any other encryption (other that what
comes along on "secure" web sites) so while this will not matter to her,
it is important to keep in mind those with physical challenges.


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Re: [Enigmail] Unable to save the OpenPGP for the account

2018-03-27 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/27/2018 11:45 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> In my Thunderbird, it is not where you said, but when I did find the
>> Config Editor, I reset it and it now works.
>>
>> Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Config Editor
>>
>> is where I found it.
> Sorry, yes. The location of the menu entry depends on the platform -
> that was for Windows.

I wonder why the user interface is different in Thunderbird (and not
only Thunderbird) from one platform to another. Off-topic question for
Enigmail group though.

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Re: [Enigmail] Unable to save the OpenPGP for the account

2018-03-27 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/27/2018 11:21 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> On 27.03.18 17:14, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> On 03/27/2018 06:42 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> Hi Frank
>>>
>>> Read the reference I gave in [1] for the debug log file ;-).
>>>
>>> -Patrick
>>>
>>
>> All e-mails I receive from Patrick display in Firefox the following, and
>> not the mail in question.
>>
>> addr=patr...@enigmail.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata=
>> xsFNBFS6eEEBEAC56tAm82tgg5BJE0dA4c5UNUDQ7SKLIsleh7TrwsKocEp1b34EHTmLJQG9
>> Zqoia0mnywG1IYzyZdFwQ0JjXwd9LbiTfLcxYrJ1i+fMw6+mlg2boIXNrnh8lYwFus0z63/K
>> LglIPdJ8LzXyq03iy/WwEhJvxUs3dmURPslWZTjgDl7SuGJ4BU9A/egc/Rfe5+LQqnQ6M9yb
>> [rest snipped]
>>
>> If I click reply to list, (as I have done), the offensive stuff
>> disappears and I can read the e-mail.
>>
>> thunderbird-52.6.0-1.el6_9.x86_64
>> enigmail-1.9.9-sm+tb.xpi
>>
>> I cannot go to enigmail-2.0-sm+tb.xpi because I cannot upgrade to gnupg2
>> to gnupg2 2.0.15.
> 
> This happened because you did upgrade, and then downgraded again. You
> need to reset the Thunderbird option "mailnews.headers.extraExpandedHeaders"
> 
> That's done via Edit > Options > Advanced > "Config Editor".

In my Thunderbird, it is not where you said, but when I did find the
Config Editor, I reset it and it now works.

Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Config Editor

is where I found it.

> 
> -Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Unable to save the OpenPGP for the account OOPS

2018-03-27 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/27/2018 11:14 AM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> On 03/27/2018 06:42 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Hi Frank
>>
>> Read the reference I gave in [1] for the debug log file ;-).
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
> 
> All e-mails I receive from Patrick display in Firefox the following, and
> not the mail in question.

I meant Thunderbird.
> 
> addr=patr...@enigmail.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata=
> xsFNBFS6eEEBEAC56tAm82tgg5BJE0dA4c5UNUDQ7SKLIsleh7TrwsKocEp1b34EHTmLJQG9
> Zqoia0mnywG1IYzyZdFwQ0JjXwd9LbiTfLcxYrJ1i+fMw6+mlg2boIXNrnh8lYwFus0z63/K
> LglIPdJ8LzXyq03iy/WwEhJvxUs3dmURPslWZTjgDl7SuGJ4BU9A/egc/Rfe5+LQqnQ6M9yb
> [rest snipped]
> 
> If I click reply to list, (as I have done), the offensive stuff
> disappears and I can read the e-mail.
> 
> thunderbird-52.6.0-1.el6_9.x86_64
> enigmail-1.9.9-sm+tb.xpi
> 
> I cannot go to enigmail-2.0-sm+tb.xpi because I cannot upgrade to gnupg2
> to gnupg2 2.0.15.
> 
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] Unable to save the OpenPGP for the account

2018-03-27 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/27/2018 06:42 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> Hi Frank
> 
> Read the reference I gave in [1] for the debug log file ;-).
> 
> -Patrick
> 

All e-mails I receive from Patrick display in Firefox the following, and
not the mail in question.

addr=patr...@enigmail.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata=
xsFNBFS6eEEBEAC56tAm82tgg5BJE0dA4c5UNUDQ7SKLIsleh7TrwsKocEp1b34EHTmLJQG9
Zqoia0mnywG1IYzyZdFwQ0JjXwd9LbiTfLcxYrJ1i+fMw6+mlg2boIXNrnh8lYwFus0z63/K
LglIPdJ8LzXyq03iy/WwEhJvxUs3dmURPslWZTjgDl7SuGJ4BU9A/egc/Rfe5+LQqnQ6M9yb
[rest snipped]

If I click reply to list, (as I have done), the offensive stuff
disappears and I can read the e-mail.

thunderbird-52.6.0-1.el6_9.x86_64
enigmail-1.9.9-sm+tb.xpi

I cannot go to enigmail-2.0-sm+tb.xpi because I cannot upgrade to gnupg2
to gnupg2 2.0.15.

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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.0 Available

2018-03-25 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/25/2018 01:05 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> I'm very happy to announce Enigmail 2.0! This marks a major milestone in
> the development of Enigmail.
> 
> 
> Major Changes since v1.9
> 
> * The Encryption and Signing buttons now work for both OpenPGP and
> S/MIME. Enigmail will chose between S/MIME or OpenPGP depending on
> whether the keys for all recipients are available for the respective
> standard.
> 
> * Support for the Autocrypt standard [1], which is now enabled by default.
> 
> * Support for Pretty Easy Privacy (pEp) [2] is implemented in Enigmail.
> 
> * Support for Web Key Directory (WKD) [3] is implemented. Enigmail will
> try to download unavailable keys during message composition from WKD.
> If you use GnuPG 2.2.x, and your provider supports the Web Key Service
> protocol [4], you can also use Enigmail to upload your key to WKD.
> 
> * The message subject can now be encrypted and replaced with a dummy
> subject, following the "Memory Hole" standard for protected Email
> Headers [5].
> 
> * The keys on the keyring are automatically refreshed from keyservers at
> an irregular interval.
> 
> * Enigmail was converted into a "restartless" addon. That is, once you
> installed Enigmail 2.0, subsequent updates will be installed without
> needing to restart Thunderbird.
> 
> * Keys are internally addressed using the fingerprint instead of the key ID.
> 
> 
> Fixed defects
> -
> In addition to the above, we fixed quite some defects:
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/search/?q=status%3Afixed+%26%26+_fixed%3A2.0>.
> 
> 
> Obtaining Enigmail
> ==
> Enigmail can be downloaded from
> <https://www.enigmail.net/index.php/en/download/>
> 
> The changelog is available from
> <https://www.enigmail.net/index.php/en/download/changelog>
> 
> 
> 
> -Patrick
 [snip]

It requires a newer version of gpg2 than is present in
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.9 (Santiago); it seems that
gnupg2 2.0.15 or higher is required.

gnupg2-2.0.14-8.el6.x86_64

so I had to back this out.

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Re: [Enigmail] Missing features for Enigmail

2018-01-24 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 01/24/2018 10:17 AM, Neil D. Donovan wrote:
> 2) Automatic decryption of received encrypted emails to the folder on
> the email server

If I were sending you an encrypted e-mail, I presume I wish you to be
able to read it, but I surely would not wanting you to share its
contents with anyone else. So if I knew you would even be storing the
decrypted version of my email anywhere else (or even on your own
computer), I would no longer need to send you any encrypted mail because
I could not trust you to keep it secret.

I know there is nothing enigmail, or even gpg2, do to prevent
untrustworthy behavior on your part, but why should they make it even
easier for you to do this?

Even if I trust _you_ to keep my secrets, why should I trust some server
somewhere (perhaps even in the cloud) to keep them?

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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 52.4 (56) released.

2017-10-18 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 10/18/2017 09:16 AM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> On 10/18/2017 09:06 AM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> On 10/18/2017 08:50 AM, David Boles wrote:
>>> The current release of Enigmail (1.9.8.3) and the alpha version Enigmail
>>>  Nightly do not work with it.
>>>
>> I am running with these.
>> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.9 (Santiago)
>> kernel 2.6.32-696.13.2.el6.x86_64
>> firefox-52.4.0-1.el6_9.x86_64
>> /opt/downloaded/enigmail/enigmail-1.9.8.3-sm+tb.xpi
>>
>> I will try to sign this.
>>
> thunderbird-52.4.0-2.el6_9.x86_64
> 
> Sorry I forgot to include thunderbird.

Since it works for me, and fails for David Boles, is this not some
problem with his setup? I cannot imagine I have compensating bugs in my
system that correct from a bug in enigmail-1.9.8.3

I doubt it is a kernel problem.
Could it be some problem in thunderbird-52.4.0 that Red Hat fixed in
their release?
Could David Boles be running a 32-bit version of thunderbird that is
different from my 64-bit version?
Could the version of enigmail-1.9.8.3-sm+tb.xpi I downloaded be
different from his?

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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 52.4 (56) released.

2017-10-18 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 10/18/2017 09:06 AM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> On 10/18/2017 08:50 AM, David Boles wrote:
>> The current release of Enigmail (1.9.8.3) and the alpha version Enigmail
>>  Nightly do not work with it.
>>
> I am running with these.
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.9 (Santiago)
> kernel 2.6.32-696.13.2.el6.x86_64
> firefox-52.4.0-1.el6_9.x86_64
> /opt/downloaded/enigmail/enigmail-1.9.8.3-sm+tb.xpi
> 
> I will try to sign this.
> 
thunderbird-52.4.0-2.el6_9.x86_64

Sorry I forgot to include thunderbird.

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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 52.4 (56) released.

2017-10-18 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 10/18/2017 08:50 AM, David Boles wrote:
> The current release of Enigmail (1.9.8.3) and the alpha version Enigmail
>  Nightly do not work with it.
> 
I am running with these.
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.9 (Santiago)
kernel 2.6.32-696.13.2.el6.x86_64
firefox-52.4.0-1.el6_9.x86_64
/opt/downloaded/enigmail/enigmail-1.9.8.3-sm+tb.xpi

I will try to sign this.

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Re: [Enigmail] Signature broken

2017-01-17 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 01/17/2017 11:12 AM, Dominik Kucher wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> When i send a mail to a mailing list is my signature broken, my pgp-key
> is not expired.
> 

On my Thunderbird with enigmail, it believes your signature is good:

Enigmail Security Info UNTRUSTED Good signature from Dominik Kucher
 Key ID: 0x9DC1FB13 / Signed on: 01/17/2017
11:12 AM Key fingerprint: C0F9 CEBC B1E8 7DBA EE08 63B4 4397 88A1 9DC1 FB13

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Re: [Enigmail] Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-06-02 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/02/2015 08:14 AM, Ian Mann wrote:
> attached is an uncorrupted version of your Public Key, I got it from the 
> Ubuntu Key server, other servers seem to now have a corrupted version of this 
> key
> 
> The text below is your public key, you need to copy this and paste it into 
> the location Facebook provides, from the first --at thop left to the last -- 
> bottom right
> 
> This is what FB is expecting to be given
> 
> 
> -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
> Version: SKS 1.1.5
> Comment: Hostname: keyserver.ubuntu.com
> 
> mQENBFC6BkUBCADjWI4CqM1+YopY3HwBmh7kRa0mpYYMaHgWRU+EptjEWm3h8Ol3hH2f90Uu
> hDk2Q4vo7DqKlHUhXZbB5srJkrBfWjrvgDm3kRQCs6zh3X4L1Fiun7FkpHZYyi7q08sKfD+M
> 4Wlh1c/N8LEI+MUy8BRpwm5hYIUuJBEfVGrRPfkfP2x1BpYANbbr1S6iO9bsSjavQZQuYAVI
> sPwY+FlTW/WiV+OmsaFGlmvogf54oxefw/mMcmga2cb5LAuCTOU1ZDd5CqTS4dQj6fVZMq66
> iSLHZU5GPANdNQI0VQknEqtDygHWwEIoksOvZr5BBwtcYopi23gvycFn4zBJfcqveBL7ABEB
> AAG0TEplYW4tRGF2aWQgQmV5ZXIgKEluc3RpdHV0ZSBmb3IgUmVnaW1lbnRlZCBXaGltc2V5
> KSA8amVhbmRhdmlkOEB2ZXJpem9uLm5ldD6JATgEEwECACIFAlC6BkUCGwMGCwkIBwMCBhUI
> AgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLZKwH/1hjJYTMYIsqCbh4/rycAbNwZo5+//IC
> U3K5A2PRqryy4iYYGPFGX6AP4LiliDHplm5iSMTfaJThWAev2yGJVqtVm4tXY8pG+CpOIuIl
> aJKhIRb866hZ3p1hW90mS5Ei8UDBh7LcSqiMW6ZrdWlQP+AXWYgZEihLyjANZMkVcYFebg0M
> 8hl8jyYgwGv1ui05C1thyjPHcHJl+VC2pX3vMoo5v1Cn9tWCD9oj3QOMq9fveowLOmVs+LAB
> ltvqS9xqTo8hlRG1uqMgHrI4oZwYPIi+bOb6wnu6a8KurJO0LWKbLGnlh8WrIWcKK2GvPcP+
> ptAb5c9v4ZFnv7WcvvIK+ie5AQ0EULoGRQEIAKY26TXeS4y1cIovNO7ztv2q13AjbDN5bX+r
> 0bb+Ry7bf9LjgfxsDcWBH6NAuXd/vRHnVdmCgiXhBRaQffZ/VDBUe/HJbMSKfpwG8kDu+2TR
> tZZ8YeIoZhpyWpa7UEs+/2hcRmH8k0wuZ7ZdBFvWoMTeZoefZbPRr1xEaxvlKT3jVxJ+f3Ds
> 9/0/MIj20w2DFzDFkNf8NR2iXHsDLiOVHfq+3JyLpv13Q0NRUccp5Pc3u21xq3FURPu21wsx
> qb2KjtY4oxGILYDeweew1bYpUPOsXtiBAA6Zxr7IyjqydLfyD7VcAwhGq69+1iqLP+m0Xk1d
> o/EKNmxbXq8nb0FWR8sAEQEAAYkBHwQYAQIACQUCULoGRQIbDAAKCRAWbYQKDGEMixjaCACJ
> aa0kmN1ZEpfy2FBOA7pW9UCo3PLT3vqBEZYlFx4/jcdjQfgkM+BGSIpJV8vq8JeVLaI9YGMg
> sr7t6g1W+unM7VIL/z0hLNV9Fhr0vZHFGJX1Xfan/pddZk5vLWzRgNruVt5v0L5pb7RUaNgl
> gH2beHEUBEJACVhJ0Qe0H+9kQelzj2IZWl9SV14+Bnn4sq8S7QBK2z65grIczyC7hqUSjP7I
> ws1bGake0LZZkuMMqhCVJdM5wmvoJIv6utBWuji4eFW5t4X/Dl0gmbgpm6ZcAsjjzX0c7ARw
> k8Ex2ojXv7CKWBWs181+KrPffW5bL0tSdPizEFYztWCOyPsYTecdiQElBBgBAgAPAhsMBQJT
> JZVNBQkGLfYIAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLLfUH/Rs+AbIqF8B0ytBVVxfQ4V4icbKOktO/qc9c0qYr
> phtpEBI2LUC0emTbn/JM0CoyOf7yCg/wSnRsfaOYHB4RSHzOLhgVWTpSPyVYDd34A+dT0nON
> kkoFNanmxRzhcIhqT+zQvKFtAh5KyQcEVR65eJI0kqUEe+r5wF+61W7NQuKEIFmBFYFAIBa4
> m6DxLsCkd8ypn32mDw5DH2gSE3D9OSJpnIngF09g+UwGd7N7UpjupBoSNpzmAVNsAiP8v+uI
> MhR6ibjjtzd9+kXqQxzPvoz+/uzWqPsOkJW47CGLAPfpRy2o13l7jOwEkmwMyp9ZrX3qv4fK
> wgl2r4FMxCO+OQw=
> =YRc+
> -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
> 
> 
I tried that one, and it did not work. The one I got that worked was the
one that started like this:

Version: SKS 1.1.5+
Comment: Hostname: pgp.archreactor.org

mQENBFC6BkUBCADjWI4CqM1+YopY3HwBmh7kRa0mpYYMaHgWRU+EptjEWm3h8Ol3hH2f90Uu

I really got it from

https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=regimented+whimsey



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Re: [Enigmail] Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-06-02 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/02/2015 07:56 AM, Ian Mann wrote:
> On 02/06/15 21:46, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> If I look at their example, they show what appears to be the
>> entire fingerprint. I tried that too.
> 
> Forget the fingerprint
> 
> 
> This is what they say to do
> 
> 1. Grab a full copy of you Public Key, you can get that from a
> keyserver you uploaded your key to, the one that matches the email
> you ask Facebook to contact you on. 2. Paste it into the location
> they provide 3. check encryption activate 4. Save and close
> 
> Ian
> 
I did that many times now.
It finally worked this time.

Now back to why it will not remember that I have entered my passphrase...

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Re: [Enigmail] Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-06-02 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/01/2015 11:34 PM, Ian Mann wrote:
> On 02/06/15 12:10, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> Do you mean I should use
>>
>> 166D840A 0C610C8B
> 
> Are you telling me you are trying to stuff two keys in the space provided? 
> Just select one key and add one.
> 
> Ian
> 

No, just one key. I tired 0C610C8B (the last few bytes of my signature)
and 166D840A 0C610C8B whick is the longer version.

If I look at their example, they show what appears to be the entire
fingerprint. I tried that too.

All fail.


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Re: [Enigmail] This is your public key add this to the box, all of it.

2015-06-02 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/01/2015 11:37 PM, Ian Mann wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
> Version: SKS 1.1.5
> Comment: Hostname: keyserver.ubuntu.com
> 
> mQENBFC6BkUBCADjWI4CqM1+YopY3HwBmh7kRa0mpYYMaHgWRU+EptjEWm3h8Ol3hH2f90Uu
> hDk2Q4vo7DqKlHUhXZbB5srJkrBfWjrvgDm3kRQCs6zh3X4L1Fiun7FkpHZYyi7q08sKfD+M
> 4Wlh1c/N8LEI+MUy8BRpwm5hYIUuJBEfVGrRPfkfP2x1BpYANbbr1S6iO9bsSjavQZQuYAVI
> sPwY+FlTW/WiV+OmsaFGlmvogf54oxefw/mMcmga2cb5LAuCTOU1ZDd5CqTS4dQj6fVZMq66
> iSLHZU5GPANdNQI0VQknEqtDygHWwEIoksOvZr5BBwtcYopi23gvycFn4zBJfcqveBL7ABEB
> AAG0TEplYW4tRGF2aWQgQmV5ZXIgKEluc3RpdHV0ZSBmb3IgUmVnaW1lbnRlZCBXaGltc2V5
> KSA8amVhbmRhdmlkOEB2ZXJpem9uLm5ldD6JATgEEwECACIFAlC6BkUCGwMGCwkIBwMCBhUI
> AgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLZKwH/1hjJYTMYIsqCbh4/rycAbNwZo5+//IC
> U3K5A2PRqryy4iYYGPFGX6AP4LiliDHplm5iSMTfaJThWAev2yGJVqtVm4tXY8pG+CpOIuIl
> aJKhIRb866hZ3p1hW90mS5Ei8UDBh7LcSqiMW6ZrdWlQP+AXWYgZEihLyjANZMkVcYFebg0M
> 8hl8jyYgwGv1ui05C1thyjPHcHJl+VC2pX3vMoo5v1Cn9tWCD9oj3QOMq9fveowLOmVs+LAB
> ltvqS9xqTo8hlRG1uqMgHrI4oZwYPIi+bOb6wnu6a8KurJO0LWKbLGnlh8WrIWcKK2GvPcP+
> ptAb5c9v4ZFnv7WcvvIK+ie5AQ0EULoGRQEIAKY26TXeS4y1cIovNO7ztv2q13AjbDN5bX+r
> 0bb+Ry7bf9LjgfxsDcWBH6NAuXd/vRHnVdmCgiXhBRaQffZ/VDBUe/HJbMSKfpwG8kDu+2TR
> tZZ8YeIoZhpyWpa7UEs+/2hcRmH8k0wuZ7ZdBFvWoMTeZoefZbPRr1xEaxvlKT3jVxJ+f3Ds
> 9/0/MIj20w2DFzDFkNf8NR2iXHsDLiOVHfq+3JyLpv13Q0NRUccp5Pc3u21xq3FURPu21wsx
> qb2KjtY4oxGILYDeweew1bYpUPOsXtiBAA6Zxr7IyjqydLfyD7VcAwhGq69+1iqLP+m0Xk1d
> o/EKNmxbXq8nb0FWR8sAEQEAAYkBHwQYAQIACQUCULoGRQIbDAAKCRAWbYQKDGEMixjaCACJ
> aa0kmN1ZEpfy2FBOA7pW9UCo3PLT3vqBEZYlFx4/jcdjQfgkM+BGSIpJV8vq8JeVLaI9YGMg
> sr7t6g1W+unM7VIL/z0hLNV9Fhr0vZHFGJX1Xfan/pddZk5vLWzRgNruVt5v0L5pb7RUaNgl
> gH2beHEUBEJACVhJ0Qe0H+9kQelzj2IZWl9SV14+Bnn4sq8S7QBK2z65grIczyC7hqUSjP7I
> ws1bGake0LZZkuMMqhCVJdM5wmvoJIv6utBWuji4eFW5t4X/Dl0gmbgpm6ZcAsjjzX0c7ARw
> k8Ex2ojXv7CKWBWs181+KrPffW5bL0tSdPizEFYztWCOyPsYTecdiQElBBgBAgAPAhsMBQJT
> JZVNBQkGLfYIAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLLfUH/Rs+AbIqF8B0ytBVVxfQ4V4icbKOktO/qc9c0qYr
> phtpEBI2LUC0emTbn/JM0CoyOf7yCg/wSnRsfaOYHB4RSHzOLhgVWTpSPyVYDd34A+dT0nON
> kkoFNanmxRzhcIhqT+zQvKFtAh5KyQcEVR65eJI0kqUEe+r5wF+61W7NQuKEIFmBFYFAIBa4
> m6DxLsCkd8ypn32mDw5DH2gSE3D9OSJpnIngF09g+UwGd7N7UpjupBoSNpzmAVNsAiP8v+uI
> MhR6ibjjtzd9+kXqQxzPvoz+/uzWqPsOkJW47CGLAPfpRy2o13l7jOwEkmwMyp9ZrX3qv4fK
> wgl2r4FMxCO+OQw=
> =YRc+
> -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK
> 

How do I get such a short public key? (the one you give is the same as
the beginning of mine.)

In any case, I tried it and get the same error message as before.

Invalid PGP Public Key
You have entered data that does not look like a properly formatted PGP
public key. Please check that the value you entered is a valid PGP key
and does not contain any missing or corrupted data, and that if headers
are present they are separated from the body by a blank line.

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Re: [Enigmail] Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-06-01 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/01/2015 10:34 PM, Ian Mann wrote:
> On 02/06/15 12:10, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> Do you mean I should use
>>
>> 166D840A 0C610C8B
> 
> You also have to tick the check box, Use encrypted
> then save.
> 
> In order to activate the process.
> 
> Ian
> 

Sure. I have always done this, but it does not care until I fill in my
public key the way they want, and their example, and the tricks you
suggested seem to make no difference.


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Re: [Enigmail] Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-06-01 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 06/01/2015 10:14 PM, Ian Mann wrote:
> On 02/06/15 12:10, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> Do you mean I should use
> 
> Try deleting what you have there, then go to the key server like MIT
> and copy your Public key and paste that in the area, all worked fine
> for me David.
> 
> Ian
> 

OK, I did this:

$ gpg --send-keys 0x0C610C8B
gpg: sending key 0C610C8B to hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net

which probably did not make much difference. I mean it did not fail.

I then tried this in the box:

ECE1 52C4 50CA AF73 59A3  CE13 166D 840A 0C61 0C8B

and got this again.
Invalid PGP Public Key
You have entered data that does not look like a properly formatted PGP
public key. Please check that the value you entered is a valid PGP key
and does not contain any missing or corrupted data, and that if headers
are present they are separated from the body by a blank line.

I then tried it this way

ECE1 52C4 50CA AF73 59A3
CE13 166D 840A 0C61 0C8B

and it failed the same way.

0C610C8B
and
0x0C610C8B
do not work either.

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Re: [Enigmail] Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-06-01 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 06/01/2015 10:05 PM, Ian Mann wrote:
> On 02/06/15 12:00, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> I then took the armored version of my public key -- the whole
>> thing -- and it did not like that either.
>> 
>> Any idea what they are checking that I am failing on?
> 
> It worked for me dropping my emails public key in the box.
> 
> Ian
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Do you mean I should use

166D840A 0C610C8B

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVbRB5AAoJEBZthAoMYQyLVZwH/3JLTWugIO2iLo2dAHRCDetG
jCdaDOX5bDoKuec8wOqCZNckKsP4vQfiHnV7GG2uT8UHB3+hGTeijOFQuAfmq8hf
j7HCTK7W6Yoa3v+IIha3eYpsQmbge4YzahFwCz/KUQrcs0mh2OYy6b2DBflXoKau
bwv6ssnwjaH9l+lE0zcXXkSd723xzmf8Ggmy1i/mVTIkYI961udj4ryXepiBKynT
L1QkuCpRTCcaR7HE8VB9l1Vly1q/c3wy3ehRQU7+q79sgSu3u8Wzp2zmJi08NqS9
yb4YLNCE2WaaBJ+LxeHb7c9/rMRMB46dO2PmlN4S+zr+t9RMiA1WY1e6Yf8P6rE=
=giAh
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

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Re: [Enigmail] Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-06-01 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 06/01/2015 10:00 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> On 06/01/2015 12:18 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> Apparently, some people are having trouble finding Facebook's 
>> public announcement.  See the following:
> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/securing-email-commu
n
>
>> 
ications-from-facebook/1611941762379302
> 
> 
> 
> I got there and filled in the box like this:
> 
> ECE1 52C4 50CA AF73 59A3 CE13 166D 840A 0C61 0C8B
> 
> and got the following error message.
> 
> You have entered data that does not look like a properly formatted
> PGP public key. Please check that the value you entered is a valid
> PGP key and does not contain any missing or corrupted data, and
> that if headers are present they are separated from the body by a
> blank line.
> 
> I also tried sending that fingerprint on a single line and also
> with no leading spaces. I get the same error message.
> 
> I then took the armored version of my public key -- the whole thing
> -- and it did not like that either.
> 
> Any idea what they are checking that I am failing on?
> 
> 

In other words, I also tried this (mostly snipped):

$ gpg --export --armor whimsey
- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)

mQENBFC6BkUBCADjWI4CqM1+YopY3HwBmh7kRa0mpYYMaHgWRU+EptjEWm3h8Ol3
...
Ptu2XpovyZpw9QCg0ufd/2mYeVfxIsmFzpfU3MujhbwAnjmnyYBkyTm1Ss7R1TXd
iVMKRcOW
=a7Vx

- -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-

It did not like that either.

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVbQ/+AAoJEBZthAoMYQyLHzAIAJqHs6CeWyhW1GK58ftjlIKe
dNCTnZefX4iJ7evCvorAcNpXj2hBUsRMXIvUM6q3Sii6dMz1T2wGDrHPfajHrfaF
EJqr/Jkoqaitg5JGt1bAnac3hFq5P4k5bgLukcQzUkwakaNjD8Ff990iGVSaxDCZ
P1RnnzKTZcSU3azFXOWxLYwj4q5eUu74pwcDRUrU2F77PN8jIa55fpA6DZctCZ3U
5Izuyv7WHSVYb+qQzGT8C4CUpy/kVzlUJRPc2mShgLLYDWx8tVpVkUGVIgQQfNF2
QPCZXfht09gxyEaS2VVsH4/2r85RVcaPFPlThW/aVlK28NnT2byQQS7RRgVPtMY=
=1z+F
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

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Re: [Enigmail] Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-06-01 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 06/01/2015 12:18 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> Apparently, some people are having trouble finding Facebook's 
> public announcement.  See the following:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/securing-email-commun
ications-from-facebook/1611941762379302
>
>
> 
I got there and filled in the box like this:

 ECE1 52C4 50CA AF73 59A3
 CE13 166D 840A 0C61 0C8B

and got the following error message.

You have entered data that does not look like a properly formatted PGP
public key. Please check that the value you entered is a valid PGP key
and does not contain any missing or corrupted data, and that if
headers are present they are separated from the body by a blank line.

I also tried sending that fingerprint on a single line and also with
no leading spaces. I get the same error message.

I then took the armored version of my public key -- the whole thing --
and it did not like that either.

Any idea what they are checking that I am failing on?


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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVbQ5GAAoJEBZthAoMYQyL4E4H/0+0jDk3eejViDw9AwnHPitB
jp+PdTjo4Pp/DU/imTEYFCdrou2wU9Uucn3KIXzrmOtuWtkAtQvDYTktg3nsBnK3
dQ28C8OnBie/arUkm5JGz8vm8BakXhSZ/rGh/NvuAp9aDZl4+d2GTefJhQP62jxS
KS3RGVHSnw4Q5ewSalVB9nVpcNsY2CSBQgLnkeQ/jH3e5wvQl7nudM1m8EA4kHKn
WRfC0u9lcjq0UHUfiXDkg+aFzarzPPvy4VfL7wgHl2uzllgFvl9y0/aoS0ePYsvy
iMIVZ9LS2QxdZidTstIv48Wvzm5VCjcTsAxpxftD1pboZqCyAZ4pg0RIRlU7HYM=
=KAbv
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Re: [Enigmail] Help for a newbie?

2015-01-27 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 01/27/2015 12:43 PM, Stefan Koch wrote:
> On 01/27/2015 04:33 PM, Daniele Raffo wrote:
>> The simplest way to be sure to have the legitimate public key is
>> to write an empty mail to adele...@gnupp.de; she'll attack her
>> pubkey in her reply. Then just select Enigmail -> Decrypt/Verify
>> to import it in your keyring. The key ID is 0x92AB3FF7.
> 
> Ha, but from the security/encryption point of view, how can you now
> be sure that it was not the intruder who faked the mail and sent
> you the wrong key?
> 
> Just trying to raise some common distrust in our newcomer :)
> 

I do not know the answer. There could be a man in the middle, or I
might have the wrong address for adele.

I examine the headers of adele's reply and get (in part)

X-Mozilla-Keys:

Return-path: 
Received: from mx2.gerwinski.de ([88.198.170.58]) by
vms172091.mailsrvcs.net
 (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.34.0 64bit (built Oct
14 2014))
 with ESMTPS id <0niu000nnieek...@vms172091.mailsrvcs.net> for
 jeandav...@verizon.net; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:11:42 -0600 (CST)
Received: from adele-robot.gerwinski.de ([192.168.12.7] helo=adele-robot)
 by m31.gerwinski.de with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32)
(Exim 4.72)
 (envelope-from )
 id 1YG9fA-0007o6-DLfor jeandav...@verizon.net; Tue, 27 Jan 2015
18:10:59 +0100
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=adele-robot)
 by adele-robot with esmtp (Exim 4.72)  (envelope-from )
 id 1YG9fH-00056f-Kgfor jeandav...@verizon.net; Tue, 27 Jan 2015
18:10:59 +0100
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:10:59 +0100
From: Adele (The friendly OpenPGP email robot)  
Subject: Reply from Adele
X-Originating-IP: [88.198.170.58]
To: jeandav...@verizon.net


Then I try to see who belongs to 88.198.170.58 , I get (in part)


IP Information for 88.198.170.58
Quick Stats
IP Location Germany Germany Nuremberg G-n-u Gmbh
ASN Germany AS24940 HETZNER-AS Hetzner Online AG (registered Jun 03,
2002)
Resolve Hostmx2.gerwinski.de
Whois Serverwhois.ripe.net
IP Address  88.198.170.58
Reverse IP  2 websites use this address.
% Abuse contact for '88.198.170.56 - 88.198.170.63' is ''

inetnum:88.198.170.56 - 88.198.170.63
netname:GNU-GMBH
descr:  G-N-U GmbH
country:DE
admin-c:PG4644-RIPE
tech-c: PG4644-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: HOS-GUN
mnt-lower:  HOS-GUN
mnt-routes: HOS-GUN
notify:
changed: 20070221
source: RIPE

person: Peter Gerwinski

It does not say adele, and I am not sure what use it would be to me
even if it did say that.

I cannot call adele on the telephone and ask for her fingerprint,
since I do not know her personally and would not recognize her voice.
;-) And how would I get her telephone number in such a secure way that
I really knew it was hers and not someone else?

So in one sense it is hopeless.

On the other hand, it does not matter if a black har is impersonating
adele and thereby obtains the encrypted message I sent her.

As a practical matter, none of the friends I have care enough about
e-mail security to use open PGP or any other form of encryption. They
often express fear of big brother, but also say they have nothing to
hide, so they just do not care. One friend did get open PGP ane
Enigmail and we exchanged stuff for a week or so. I do know his voice,
and the fingerprint he gave me matched the one on what was supposedly
his public key.

It is too bad. I think _all_ e-mails should be encrypted so that
sending an encrypted e-mail does not call attention to itself. And
therefore, the bureau of nameless terror will need to decrypt all
e-mails. Serves them right, decrypting laundry lists, my receipts from
the health food store, and so on.


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Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUx9P4AAoJEBZthAoMYQyL1+0H/1FVrzAb26GgxP0cMt38QENi
4gq6v7+AczhOhCDsrRwhC5JO+qQK1bncvjeDxUQ9q6MCpfsZ/tI6TqFg9G3Kps40
qdjmnwox4omxG71YHyIyw1KgWzNLezMxIm7W0qxHs+X8+e9aOFeS7FKQh+l3KrON
QqYa+SQsgAwrXQ1XQF5qWNQS4D+4TP7FymOGqFrWWpWGIuD6VVOh2nlDiUA5dSCB
lbSGsmGeBLIqSl7e3kDGt1peQO/Vs6PGR2h/sr5ZCtpiTMvXCAGRvBJybNWloVJp
OA/fREkm59M65teOZyoj/m8GQjiGu1KgtEb0z9ujCPNz6Kr8YQNcVepiovrIjnE=
=1B75
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Re: [Enigmail] What about PGP/Header support?

2014-03-17 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/17/2014 07:26 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> or their cell phones to send me messages. And while I have SSL turned
>> on with Facebook, I very much doubt that Facebook itself, on their
>> servers, keeps my messages encrypted even though they seem to be
>> during transmission.
> 
> I know one of Facebook's senior security geeks; if you like, I'd be
> happy to ask about this for you.
> 

It would be interesting, but since I assume everything I put on Facebook
can be seen by everyone (even though my settings may be more
restrictive), it is of no practical importance to me.

And I assume that anyone can see this message I am typing too, ...

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Re: [Enigmail] What about PGP/Header support?

2014-03-17 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 03/17/2014 06:16 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On 16/03/2014 12:21, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> On 03/15/2014 02:28 PM, Egbert van der Wal wrote:
>>> I actually see encryption as less of an issue. When I send an 
>>> encrypted message to someone, I need to know for sure that the
>>>  recipient knows about PGP encryption and knows how to decode
>>> it. If I send an encrypted message to someone who does not use
>>> PGP, he/she cannot read it, no matter what.
> 
>> How do you send an encrypted message to someone who does not use 
>> PGP? You need his public key to do that.
> 
> I think that is the point that he was making - his reason for
> thinking that encryption is a lesser issue.
> 
> Anne

When his sentence starts out "If I send an encrypted message to
someone who does not use PGP, ..." he is already lacking understanding
since he CANNOT send an encrypted message to someone using enigmail if
he does not have that someone's public key.

And if that someone does not use enigmail (or something very much like
it), he better not send that message at all (if it really needed to be
encrypted).

I never benefit from enigmail because I cannot get any of my
correspondents to use it at all. In fact, many of them prefer Facebook
or their cell phones to send me messages. And while I have SSL turned
on with Facebook, I very much doubt that Facebook itself, on their
servers, keeps my messages encrypted even though they seem to be
during transmission.

My impression is that with all the hand-wringing about the NSA and
other agencies snooping on Internet communication, most people, or at
least most of my friends, do not actually care about Internet privacy.

Even with gnupg and enigmail, the headers are all exposed, but that is
another story.

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Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTJtePAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLCQ4H/33LaqWjahiEzPCTwBND11+m
trwV+nuOIK8x/oSpIDzEJnHWm6AbIGsotju2bjRdnlkIKYdmBJLU4X79vUcNPzRR
YE3wyUxSkwFHdPnIm0YXGpZbUe/lVT9B2yoqIQyS4vyCIQu3vu4e5XbJB7AOjiOf
Ni1n3OWiEhLe0/PZHE7iakpfJPLzaA+jvrOOhcdtCUWEJoe5ioGCZ/fiifxlNktz
8U1xZZJhqztO7qsM+TkHVFosp7+wcEgQWE53tlA5o8gvM21VhTi5yZg7GRhOGFTd
uzJvnELydTePRaht8LJdVJru+cSdIHALCFfYc4rqcLhHtRM4xkB6u/cRHv35QdY=
=gHjd
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Re: [Enigmail] What about PGP/Header support?

2014-03-16 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 03/15/2014 02:28 PM, Egbert van der Wal wrote:
> I actually see encryption as less of an issue. When I send an
> encrypted message to someone, I need to know for sure that the
> recipient knows about PGP encryption and knows how to decode it. If
> I send an encrypted message to someone who does not use PGP, he/she
> cannot read it, no matter what.

How do you send an encrypted message to someone who does not use PGP?
You need his public key to do that.

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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTJZdhAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLUmsH/0u3IEQiqCJGoMBicr5XGiQh
ciflEIZ6EC7XI4YtPwyqWIKm98iUqZTPr/f2wZVBJO6IZE7+d6Y9RJghV6ZDn2gI
Fr8jyTu+g4PtCzj2VWycKKP9ok8ZgRfcAMOtCmWFRK+5ErGt7qDOLw6B/TAmUlsc
7arfGsUh39lLFpPo9xfWpFc0qMlIwmaM+TZIzl+xbUbq6tsXujZ0M1JSM3lq9r21
z1pQJuUQazHg2BnVxLz2TInVkuwZoSWzi+8XROmLa+SQQSgFusYGeo0D3QM73jJM
3Elqr8DI6R8pYaFhS0qwFml+f+Ry5BrPdtI3Oc/Rf5UZGkLCxeJvtpOTh2Exspg=
=AzgD
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Re: [Enigmail] What about PGP/Header support?

2014-03-16 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 03/15/2014 11:41 AM, Egbert van der Wal wrote:
> * PGP/Mime adds an attachment that is visible to people that do
> not have PGP support, with the same thing: people distrust unknown 
> attachments.

Some people distrust any attachments and set up their MTA to discard
all e-mails with attachments.

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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTJZO/AAoJEBZthAoMYQyLqNoH/RDfcL/dur7gXYJ44zvmz71O
OLsmcsMZQP/2fBPjdQmeySW8DDfkGWEMIB2rt6D8j9INYuvX9ZSqiSiOPQNKUWMB
jf07XcoFl85NEyzTeq0POuBpCxz2W6ajzXONrLj3j2XCRTHqKrt/3s40124pyxxS
U7RnqxyuFQEqcWv7ZPqZs4a0O8jwzVa063UpeagD6jzm6bMSH4slbIa03/GVHdQ3
nnJTCxj2jxZ0tOl//3T5U+bvGmMek3E+cWWYGA3uuySvBQdfOUyWGB8JC2bUH76+
04RtkZtEiA3ddFfJwaEQYtPVYi+Zl2OxYwiRWLb0s/Ewbwx8MzOlu09ZeK9xeIk=
=bt4G
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Re: [Enigmail] can't read my own crypto msg

2014-03-12 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/12/2014 10:04 AM, Michael wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> #Enigmail 1.6 (20131006-1849)
> #gpg Executable /usr/bin/gpg
> 
> i write buddy a msg...
> i send this msg as cryptomail
> i will take a look to the "body" of the cryptomail. i go to my "send"
> folder.
> 
> enigmail shows me a emty msg?! ant the errormsg: secret key is missing?!
> 
> how can I make my sent "enigmails" readable again?
> 

Go to OpenPGP Preferences, click the Sending tab, and check
Add my own key to the recipients list.



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Re: [Enigmail] Opportunistic encryption?

2014-02-11 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 02/11/2014 12:07 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 02/10/2014 05:20 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote: | Perhaps I
> misunderstood the poster who said he had to send to multiple |
> recipients and wanted to encrypt them, even though some had no |
> encryption software. I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that he meant
> he | had to send an encrypted message to multiple recipients, and
> I | wondered what the use was of doing that if he wanted to send
> the | message unencrypted to those who had no encryption software.
> 
> You completely misunderstood my original post (if you even read it
> at all). As a result you have wasted everyone's time.

Kind of presumptuous, don't you think? It happens that I read the
entire thread.
> 
> | The thread is now too long for me to recover the beginning of
> the | thread to see if I misunderstood or not.
> 
> The instructions for accessing the archives are in the headers of
> every post sent to the list.

Really? The headers of your message are:

[big snip]
List-Post: <mailto:enigmail-users@enigmail.net>
List-Subscribe:
 <https://lists.enigmail.net/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net>,
 <mailto:enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net?subject=subscribe>
List-Unsubscribe:
 <https://lists.enigmail.net/mailman/options/enigmail-users_enigmail.net>,
 <mailto:enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive:
<https://lists.enigmail.net/pipermail/enigmail-users_enigmail.net>
<---<<<
List-Help: <mailto:enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net?subject=help>
List-Id: Enigmail user discussion list
 
[more snip]

I assume you mean that link. Note that to see that, it is not enough
to ask my newsreader to show all headers as the List-... do not
appear. I have to list the raw text of the e-mail to even find out
they are there, and what they are.

> Next time please use some of your precious time to acquaint
> yourself with the topic at hand before posting. That way you can
> perhaps save the precious time of every other member of the list.

Sorry to have wasted your time. Did you expect more of me that that I
read the entire thread as it appeared to me when I posted? I could not
anticipate posts that may have been written before I posted, but were
delivered to me after I posted.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 

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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS+nNIAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLUQMH+gOmDOtxaqNVkPwm7DqMO1Kn
nJbNcLI29VSMpp4ssC1zkCbvT/5ebBA8WgHMi53FbQ1ooXMJq8uJ0yNnTlU7lqwL
T6EjfyE1GDb0jy3ch/O62kfMxusbPv0I8PBW8sRzwU13fAeGALm4D3nGwm2s0JWe
aPSFl2Jn6HGUIa22WYqYdbVxMIqGHKw46MBc0Iw5lSv7yyx3W+9Gwox6GhuwXsya
75Nj7RhCF1vS/ZtVAs1Pd6jhM0HUON1I1Nw+BPbbCkzC9cma7vEOI6kPD4b7ugEm
aiGHEVR6BfQVzUGoyTswXEnwgY9hgUCBaL6Wb9khXFgQ2yHilQOmoPa0v72HQuQ=
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Re: [Enigmail] Opportunistic encryption?

2014-02-11 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 02/10/2014 04:24 PM, arne renkema-padmos wrote:
> On 10/02/14 21:59, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> On 02/05/2014 09:48 AM, jan wrote:
>>> implement much automation into Enigmail. One major task would
>>> be automating to find keys for recepients and encrypt emails
>>> if possible.
> 
>> What good is it it encrypt e-mail to most of the recipients? If
>> you send it unencrypted to even one, have you not given up on 
>> encryption? The black hats would not need to decrypt all the 
>> messages sent, only one, and if one is unencrypted, that sure
>> makes their job easy.
> 
> What's your threat model?
> 
> It would make sense to encrypt where possible. E.g. your attacker
> may only have access to the inbox of one of your recipients.
> 
That is a valid point. I assumed that he may have had access to my
outgoing e-mail stream (my Internet connection) or to my ISP that
provides my e-mail service. Someone like the NSA if they cannot be
bothered to insert keyloggers in my computers before they are
delivered to me from the manufacturer.

But what I infer as a different thread model from your question is
certainly a different one.

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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS+nC0AAoJEBZthAoMYQyLCDkH/iqBoahi9Hh7vQJqjQmVJoyC
K2iwe18auAol7nf+bDw+WAPCgn1bKsRpVtilAEnIihCR5cFJf3Kifhjk5+52pSXF
WMOKkL2M0Ax8T890BD6IUgIIG6iZRKSmPM/agbI0jzb0v/ahi/K7nNAUMNVgpHxb
5TsPo4dNUGypSrdM7dnx6BH9Eof04pZilGiaNH0XVMmc7qb0K9rHi4M6cLCgYpDC
zsh/PsI6tz1IOcvLDl0IXrJFzXu2JPTywkOuO0wcV/AJumbCI8xjGqwq6yFPR7jz
QWQSKYctwFwYkPibaxyM4wiGw+Ws+VYwbTIheq+3Ym7+BflqLJNHzTatxE0faeM=
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Re: [Enigmail] Opportunistic encryption?

2014-02-10 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 02/10/2014 05:37 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> On 02/10/14 17:22, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> On 02/10/2014 04:37 PM, David wrote:
>>> On 2/10/2014 3:59 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>>>> On 02/05/2014 09:48 AM, jan wrote:
>>>>> implement much automation into Enigmail. One major task 
>>>>> would be automating to find keys for recepients and
>>>>> encrypt emails if possible.
> 
>>>> What good is it it encrypt e-mail to most of the recipients? 
>>>> If you send it unencrypted to even one, have you not given
>>>> up on encryption? The black hats would not need to decrypt
>>>> all the messages sent, only one, and if one is unencrypted,
>>>> that sure makes their job easy.
> 
> 
>>> How do you plan to send encrypted emails to people that do not 
>>> use encryption?
> 
>> I don't.
> 
>> But if I am OK with sending it to someone not using encryption, 
>> why bother to encrypt it to the others? Once leaked, it is
>> leaked.
> 
> How does this argue against automatically encrypting email to 
> recipients for whom you have a key?  You don't send EVERY message
> to multiple recipients, do you...?
> 
> 

I do not send every message to multiple recipients, regardless of
whether I deem it necessary to encrypt them. But if a message I wish
to send must be encrypted, I would send it to as few recipients as
possible (who knows what happens to the messages after the recipient
has decrypted it. He could send it to the local newspaper for all I
know). And I would never send it unencrypted.

Perhaps I misunderstood the poster who said he had to send to multiple
recipients and wanted to encrypt them, even though some had no
encryption software. I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that he meant he
had to send an encrypted message to multiple recipients, and I
wondered what the use was of doing that if he wanted to send the
message unencrypted to those who had no encryption software.

The thread is now too long for me to recover the beginning of the
thread to see if I misunderstood or not.

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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS+XrKAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLaucIAL4FMQriAhhDVX4phBgWbMpW
MQBQ9o0ZxjjyLQsbkBTeMcj0zdfduqWevyf73SLETWIwHsPFYWhlm8gMCLdfzxuY
6qIhCMTy2+K8wUevp/+WEKXnP7R+7C/9OwCzbk9vobOVEhaDZVwQXJnYs8fL9zDU
zrA6oGegDT9V5iRK93IzMhshzbHR3OZAuJyxmGUIQ9Ylxu+xc2sAkOR0eDTcVuYv
LdelAewj50CXow3RcMsGuekP5UwG/pKomT6yfUyJ+z3u9Y8niPZ/+is6Q+k+Kf2o
9ogHZiIy1OwfjrDBYFCPFa0bqLlznYE+K+GB1ukXVJXhjogLna1h+0mOjwSDxd4=
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Re: [Enigmail] Opportunistic encryption?

2014-02-10 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 02/10/2014 04:37 PM, David wrote:
> On 2/10/2014 3:59 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> On 02/05/2014 09:48 AM, jan wrote:
>>> implement much automation into Enigmail. One major task would
>>> be automating to find keys for recepients and encrypt emails
>>> if possible.
> 
>> What good is it it encrypt e-mail to most of the recipients? If
>> you send it unencrypted to even one, have you not given up on 
>> encryption? The black hats would not need to decrypt all the 
>> messages sent, only one, and if one is unencrypted, that sure
>> makes their job easy.
> 
> 
> How do you plan to send encrypted emails to people that do not use 
> encryption?
> 
I don't.

But if I am OK with sending it to someone not using encryption, why
bother to encrypt it to the others? Once leaked, it is leaked.


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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS+VEQAAoJEBZthAoMYQyL+9MIANgflc6/4s6qYTvjXZW24orI
qXho2EXcAZH08txondoABN1Sq6gcGz3zbj9XJeatGjkTCg7dmLingdwKUtjE70CW
YHlNbZkz56Y9A73Itjo59ilQZk1gS7WFzpsDtsqBgiVaxuXZmOW1IQj9LwspB7VO
DB2yrrJmoGsw0ECPRFY+nm2dqvfseONX/QQqqclDghM9zc+E/An3ElsD/NMO6Ri8
vVND+oUF/lNUVIdGGEiVw6UVoVeFb/LeGjJSMydpcZJdYtuX6qM1RBK7tS5OciUH
XYG27S/IhnsY15cq48YBBTk/vDEJUcUJcngsKMkc/cRyEB79Blv8Z2giIO3q8QE=
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Re: [Enigmail] Opportunistic encryption?

2014-02-10 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 02/05/2014 09:48 AM, jan wrote:
> implement much automation into Enigmail.
> One major task would be automating to find keys for recepients and
> encrypt emails if possible.

What good is it it encrypt e-mail to most of the recipients? If you send
it unencrypted to even one, have you not given up on encryption? The
black hats would not need to decrypt all the messages sent, only one,
and if one is unencrypted, that sure makes their job easy.


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Re: [Enigmail] My first signed email

2013-08-26 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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Hash: SHA1

On 08/26/2013 12:46 PM, LeRoy wrote:
[snip]
> 
> The news media is generating a lot of interest in security with 
> their stories about the NSA, but not many will do anything to 
> secure their computers and email.
> 

I have one friend who uses gnupg and probably enigmail. He does it for
the fun of it. My nephew, who was a student at MIT at the time (about
1988) introduced me to PGP, and I got it working on my (Red Hat Linux
5.0) machine. But no one else I knew ever bothered. Many friends worry
about their e-mails getting captured by black hats, but they refuse to
do anything about it. In fact, most of them now use FaceBook for their
text-communication needs.

All of them seem to subscribe to the "I do nothing wrong, so I have
nothing to hide" philosophy. To which I disagree. I grew up during the
McCarthy era, where people were severely punished, extra-legally, for
LEGAL acts they did in the 1930s, but were somewhat criminalized
ex-post-facto in the 1950s. So my view is, how can you know what may
be, ex-post-facto, declared wrong and you get disappeared, imprisoned,
blacklisted, etc. for it. I know the constitution prohibits
ex-post-facto laws, but that is just a quaint historical document, as
is most of the Bill of Rights.  Better to get off Facebook entirely,
encrypt at least your emails, even laundry lists, amateur poetry, etc.

But even my nephew refuses to encrypt anything. People talk about it,
but they are too lazy to even use free software do do something about
it. They are crazy.

WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, MORE IS SAID THAN DONE.

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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSG41/AAoJEBZthAoMYQyL/gsH/RMBw2b/tqBJFYkkOpfJybQ1
I9b74sd2BRvPSPjlKrF8VuY7Aut7zk6XF/383CMYEAPM0QYAdfNsbd/eUBPRyH8c
JAftERsIxXHelL/5faI9h/3Y0nky0zUI0Ffd1GQEt8UFGnEVNQQk5Mx6OqIOdLi/
VvlinuGTosqcfZUn6mmjxyQ5iQ5HU/Ydik8I+C1PWIDdIRUAG1TlMEhEEA5V0Uz5
Ejg430QO4TA4lXfef+5qTdVNabAu8moGn2tYtdgaVGA2p7ZR6UIuFzgM3pLdhZXn
EJulD8MM+Ts4gOQTg7nr/RnlpxTkfyrLGdMrCw2waBvTXGlXahNch4XVc7vk824=
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Re: [Enigmail] anyone can help me confirm that pgp is working!?

2013-08-23 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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On 08/23/2013 09:21 AM, ... wrote:
> Hi All!
> 
> I'm pretty new to this... I'd be greatful if anyone of you could
> help me to confirm that the PGP is working for me!?
> 
> Thanks!!!
> 

UNTRUSTED Good signature from ... 
Key ID: 0xD30DB918 / Signed on: 08/23/2013 09:21 AM
Key fingerprint: 7635 CC72 0DA0 7AF6 A338 83C4 D696 4315 D30D B918

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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSF6k8AAoJEBZthAoMYQyLXY4IANInZgdahaj1sy6NTf/dvi0q
Sm5RO+FCG4bE96dOHEv0PUWhaGU0sTYC0+18ok9S1R/mq2NC+s2iz6fD+5YPGq6x
ZLAe5wUMfi7B2iKSj3taoAUNTQE/ptVqMvzJl/R7fhdtKTtma6Jss32MumrqAOZJ
qfZmvxvqaxMrbTHFHVFfYKM2WrooUB1eGweyy2hyZ2TJZZa6RakpvgoTxcADffNI
o3M1rIc+SJ3q+bOhLI+vu98xqxUFOcIVnP8EFd/JkkJaVeXFwy7Q4mTK3yr+n/re
db51x41vJzQgW+eTfXDI3xp48AeYoAzEBane3BZ7rZ7OXDWcpGH69is4PcMT41Q=
=ZI2E
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail mentioned on spiegel.de

2013-07-04 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 07/04/2013 01:21 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> what was to be expected after the big public rush about PRISM and 
> Tempora: Email encryption comes into the focus. Here an example
> with Thunderbird, GnuPG and Enigmail:
> 
> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/so-verschluesseln-sie-ihre-e-mails-mit-openpgp-a-909316.html
>
>  I expect more newcomers than usual on the list in the next weeks
> and months.
> 
> Ludwig
> 

I imagine there will be a few.

What I expect is that the few people who still use e-mail, instead of
texting on their cell phones or messaging on Facebook, will talk about
how e-mail should be encrypted, but few will do anything about it.
Perhaps a few will download gpg and enigmail, or other workable
combinations. Most of them will not get it up and working. And after
sending a few encrypted messages to this list, will just give up.

I have ONE correspondent who used encrypted e-mail with me. At least,
he got down to downloading the necessary tools and got them to work.
But he no longer seems to use it. And it is now 2013.

I forgot when I first got PGP at the suggestion of my nephew who was
doing computer science at MIT at the time. I sent a couple of messages
to him. I doubt he uses it anymore. I signed keys for two
acquaintances of mine, and they signed mine. But all that stuff got
lost at some point and I had to make new keys. I think I have no
signatures on my keys.

People keep talking about security, worry like chickens with heads cut
off, but are unwilling to take the trouble to do anything about it.
One of my friends does not even keep her virus scanner up to date, and
refuses to accept updates for her OS and application software.

I know perhaps two computer users who occasionally do backups.

I cannot speak for all computer users, but the ones I know use it as
an entertainment device and nothing else. If it is not worth
protecting with a virus scanner, not worth doing backups, perhaps it
does not matter if their e-mails are read or not.

See, I can sign this. But I am not rude enough to encrypt it to this list.

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iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR1bNeAAoJEBZthAoMYQyL58cIAL1zKHwYYaFcRG5Y15LC5U2e
MoMB6en708DN4oUsMfulJGfhn2bArEtGWe7XDyszbPvs6Hn1NkwUgkMy63o1V3bp
euby/b7j1XrPBbRvikFXWYwQ77rYAuOvH10pHoV9QfyxSiFMMgeAsuctE7OCjsva
rLdcKGiP9IocaBij0Ps16BT6V192bhwo+6b71006M4cVhzF1YRsJKduzcXgcEYyv
gxMD7mo59ScmoQx8xmiqfGbjQBzma3j4fsfwI0PgG8Kqs7n9xqTnh968JQjy34TU
Y09DSIAf0FHPDJwecEBpBwgoLN7BSqrjq+21yKFnS9kIp3yGEhwNMoCuJYp6jjw=
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Re: [Enigmail] enigmail verification problem with signed message/rfc822 subparts

2013-03-12 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/12/2013 06:46 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> Hi Enigmail folks--
> 
> The message i'm writing right now is not signed by me (please inspect
> the source to verify).  However, when viewed in enigmail, I believe it
> will have a "Good signature" header if you already have my key.

My Thunderbird, equipped with enigmail, makes no mention of any signing.
When I looked at the source, I could see the two MIME pieces and the
signature, but enigmail seemed to ignore all that.
> 
> This is because i've attached another e-mail from me below, and that
> e-mail itself is signed.  that is, this message has a message/rfc822
> subpart  that itself contains a PGP/MIME-signed message.
> 
> Using the enigmail UI, i see no way to distinguish which part of the
> message is actually the signed part.
> 
> This seems to be a serious message verification/authenticity concern.
> If anyone is unclear on the risk and is willing to volunteer, i'd be
> willing to craft a bogus message to you from your own e-mail.  just send
> me a PGP/MIME-signed message, and i'll send you back a different message
> "from yourself" that appears to be signed by you.
> 
> I'm not sure how enigmail can address this issue -- i think there will
> need to be some sort of UI change, but i'm not sure what the options are.
> 
> One thought would be to refuse to process PGP/MIME signatures of
> sub-parts (only process PGP/MIME if the message body itself is
> content-type multipart/signed, but i suspect that would break many
> common arrangements (e.g. this and other mailing lists make the whole
> message itself multipart/mixed, put the multipart/signed original
> message body as subpart, and then append a text/plain footer part).
> 
> Some other MUAs (e.g. notmuch) do not have this problem because their
> signature verification indicators are bound directly to the part of the
> e-mail that is signed.
> 
> Any suggestions for how to address this?
> 
>   --dkg
> 
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] Testing enigmail: no need to reply.

2013-03-09 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 03/09/2013 10:41 AM, Patrick Fleming wrote:
> 
> 
> On 03/07/13 17:50, John Clizbe wrote:
>> Gary Baribault wrote:
>>> On 03/07/2013 03:12 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>>>> Now is the time for all good peanuts to come to the aid of 
>>>> their snoopy.
>>> Ok so we won't reply, not even to say your sig is good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gary Baribault Courriel: g...@baribault.net GPG Key: 0x685430d1
>>> Signature: 9E4D 1B7C CB9F 9239 11D9 71C3 6C35 C6B7 6854 30D1
>> 
>> Which it was, BTW.
>> 
>> Gary, what you're calling Signature, most everyone else calls a 
>> fingerprint.
>> 
>> -John
> 
> Wasn't this the signature? : "Now is the time for all good peanuts 
> to come to the aid of their snoopy." I thought it was very good.

No, that was the message. I knew if a GPG signature was included, it
would mean the gpg-agent was running correctly, and if it did not, it
was not.

Later, I realized I could have just sent the message to myself.
> 
> And the gpg signature appears to have been valid as well.
> 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRO40LAAoJEBZthAoMYQyLKz0H/3XOhbBtFN7oHya1MhkWUuER
9UEkTAWNVSIaVPH9TavCeVQ4DSZMFvmRVzAmwJCrP0ZgqKUGI5yPjPUsflUZz9ay
GnJf0NjSBLxuhopJ7EaWxIjxWHH0g0e6uOdElS7EvOwPxpFEIDVMCRPGWnuuKMPp
OYooem7CZp/TbUS/XV3PvoV9byhk62paqeiIJpl0b0Lnw0mdyEwJmNRjtxhawERJ
LLUAgL38DbZmvW9Pshr0ZK4R+qlMfKwh6728HgznM93wFeKO+5qUb7pJ5o0pheJF
hd8wvRAqLquEDgTDubKpuUxlF9OqArKOPUpf0v1y/nAXMVjYN1rtxlWCVstpPOA=
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Re: [Enigmail] Strange contents of my .xsession-errors file...

2013-03-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/07/2013 02:33 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On 03/07/2013 01:44 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
>> Looks like the path for your Enigmail debug logs is set wrong.
>> Please look at OpenPGP -> Preferences, select Debug and set the
>> Log directory path correctly.
> 
> fwiw, given that the message referred to enigmail, one way to look
> for this value initially is to find it in the thunderbird config
> editor.
> 
> In thunderbird, open the Preferences dialog, choose the "Advanced"
> tab, then click the "Config editor..." button.  in the search
> field, try putting in "jome" :)

Ludwig's instructions worked just fine.

In Thunderbird 10.0.7 that I am running in Red Hat Enterprise Linux
6.4, there is NO Config editor button in the Thunderbird
Edit->Preferences->Advanced button. The reaquired button is in

OpenPGP -> Preferences, select Debug


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[Enigmail] Testing enigmail: no need to reply.

2013-03-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Now is the time for all good peanuts to come to the aid of their snoopy.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJROPSOAAoJEBZthAoMYQyL2jMH/jhY9ErUfs9DtE0D7qdzJcng
huFEY9GCri3Szy8Lg90M1Zt1I9EZLLoLnf4AkMhxOfJmHUPITDNjJUniwghYnP4V
5idMryFX6UVDA5vh7XbtWaT+pj95Hr/3uMDufxeLTVsdyaM9yJHDV85JV14oAk9e
wHTEKJflJLwmJfPAH/dnilwOpOoHDX6GjC0fHZLaVJuAX4qFXJojLqeaU8BsEnXZ
mxu+AkQ1ZlOpfs4hJBUSfETgcvgnSEszWAz5JaO/cjZDDUfeGZ7Vk1PvOAhTdwgF
qJIuKk+J8i4ppcgaFE5wM2wQJg5cUOdtj5fZtMqtrsL4Ms9R3ND2EMmJwWl//HU=
=/uEl
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Re: [Enigmail] Strange contents of my .xsession-errors file...

2013-03-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 03/07/2013 01:57 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> On 03/07/2013 01:44 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
>> On 07.03.13 17:02, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>>> I seem to be getting stuff like this in my .xsession-errors 
>>> file.
>>> 
>>> .xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.796 [DEBUG] enigmail.js: 
>>> WriteFileContents: file=/jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt
>>> 
>>> .xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.797 [ERROR] enigmail.js: 
>>> CreateFileStream: Failed to create 
>>> /jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt
>>> 
>>> .xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.797 [ERROR] enigmail.js: 
>>> WriteFileContents: Failed to write to 
>>> /jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Obviously, I must have typed jome instead of home in some 
>>> configuration file, but I cannot find it. It does not seem to
>>> be in my .xsession file (I do not even have one). Or in any of
>>> the files in /home/jeandavid8.
>>> 
>>> There is no /jome directory.
>>> 
>>> Any idea where I have this error?
> 
>> Looks like the path for your Enigmail debug logs is set wrong. 
>> Please look at OpenPGP -> Preferences, select Debug and set the
>> Log directory path correctly.
> 
> Hey! That is it! I just fixed it. I will see tomorrow if that
> fixed the problem, but I am pretty sure it will.
> 
> Thanks very much.
> 
>> Don't know why these error messages are written into 
>> .xsession-errors, but I'm not too fit in Linux/Unix ;-)
> 
>> HTH
> 
> I do not know why it is trying to write any messages, since as far
> as I can tell, enigmail is working correctly. But I assume much
> less will be written to .xsession-errors and I will be able to
> figure it all out.
> 
> Let's see what happens if I try to sign this.
> 
OK. Now it can write what it wanted to write, and it has written several
files to /home/jeandavid8/Desktop. Like this (you probably do not care
what is in them):

$ cat enigcmd.txt
/usr/bin/gpg2 --charset utf-8 --display-charset utf-8 --batch --no-tty
[snip]

$ cat enigenv.txt
DISPLAY=:0.0,HOME=/home
[snip]

$ cat enigout.txt
tru::1:1362669409:1451579252:3:1:5
[snip]

I hope setting the log path to null will turn it off completely.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJROPLOAAoJEBZthAoMYQyL6M4H/iDA1x/xTR/DfV9NCPARvTr2
JcwEIvAS2/9cgq9NPE58qnpkwubLsKUdUsTniiQMP/rY/PxsWnb+JukYAkmRQZke
K/tuTYh5Z9kpGHRbR3ha5PKx4/JzPNDwQn6kSpUJ89yXz3ibyfkLVVECQRItliQr
DcRqZQj8NA4MY4zB8Pv299lgEMFUTnQTOjVMniRCRK7oVbG/urtL5ygvKb9XHZa1
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Re: [Enigmail] Strange contents of my .xsession-errors file...

2013-03-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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Hash: SHA1

On 03/07/2013 01:44 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
> On 07.03.13 17:02, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> I seem to be getting stuff like this in my .xsession-errors
>> file.
>> 
>> .xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.796 [DEBUG] enigmail.js: 
>> WriteFileContents: file=/jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt
>> 
>> .xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.797 [ERROR] enigmail.js: 
>> CreateFileStream: Failed to create
>> /jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt
>> 
>> .xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.797 [ERROR] enigmail.js: 
>> WriteFileContents: Failed to write to
>> /jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt
>> 
>> 
>> Obviously, I must have typed jome instead of home in some
>> configuration file, but I cannot find it. It does not seem to be
>> in my .xsession file (I do not even have one). Or in any of the
>> files in /home/jeandavid8.
>> 
>> There is no /jome directory.
>> 
>> Any idea where I have this error?
> 
> Looks like the path for your Enigmail debug logs is set wrong.
> Please look at OpenPGP -> Preferences, select Debug and set the Log
> directory path correctly.

Hey! That is it! I just fixed it. I will see tomorrow if that fixed
the problem, but I am pretty sure it will.

Thanks very much.
> 
> Don't know why these error messages are written into
> .xsession-errors, but I'm not too fit in Linux/Unix ;-)
> 
> HTH

I do not know why it is trying to write any messages, since as far as
I can tell, enigmail is working correctly. But I assume much less will
be written to .xsession-errors and I will be able to figure it all out.

Let's see what happens if I try to sign this.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJROOMVAAoJEBZthAoMYQyL6RcIAIzKAq3wYYrkKJmxSQ+GoPpI
hn8e1MDwDN+8fLz7lZVwFNR20UhwPGz9pwtdZX6jVdBv2XZgPBOINL1MKaoV5VOZ
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=hH7e
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[Enigmail] Strange contents of my .xsession-errors file...

2013-03-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer
I seem to be getting stuff like this in my .xsession-errors file.

.xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.796 [DEBUG] enigmail.js:
WriteFileContents: file=/jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt

.xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.797 [ERROR] enigmail.js:
CreateFileStream: Failed to create /jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt

.xsession-errors:2013-03-07 10:17:27.797 [ERROR] enigmail.js:
WriteFileContents: Failed to write to /jome/jeandavid8/Desktop/enigout.txt


Obviously, I must have typed jome instead of home in some configuration
file, but I cannot find it. It does not seem to be in my .xsession file
(I do not even have one). Or in any of the files in /home/jeandavid8.

There is no /jome directory.

Any idea where I have this error?



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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail problem gpg lost

2013-03-05 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 03/04/2013 07:41 PM, Patrick Fleming wrote:
> 
>>
>
> I've used enigmail for a number of years and have had
> occasional problems where enigmail forgets where gpg is.
>
> Sometimes I fix this by putting in the path to gpg. Sometimes
> that no longer works and I have to let enigmail work
> automatically.
>
> I have now go to the stage where neither option works. I've 
> upgraded to the latest versions of everything but no luck.
>
> /usr/bin/gpg works fine (links to gpg2)

> 
> 
> I get a similar issue with enigmail. 9 times or more out of 10, OpenGPG will
> complain that gnupg was not found. Override, close thunderbird (and then pkill
> thunderbird as user because it's still running), the next time it opens it 
> will
> decrypt a message. Sometimes the next two or three times. Then it stops 
> finding
> gpg again and I have to uncheck the box, and it might find gpg and decrypt the
> message. Thunderbird 17.0.3 with Enigmail 1.5.1 - both installed from 
> repos. GnuPG 2.0.14. Any help appreciated.
> 
>
I run these and have no trouble at all.

thunderbird-10.0.7-1.el6.centos.x86_64
gnupg2-2.0.14-4.el6.x86_64
enigmail-1.4.4+15.0-33.29.1.x86_64
kernel-2.6.32-358.0.1.el6.x86_64

They are the latest I could find that run on my RHEL-6.4 distribution.
Anything else causes avalanche of dependency problems.

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Re: [Enigmail] First Encrypted Email

2013-02-22 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 02/22/2013 12:19 PM, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> On 21.02.2013 01:54, Bryant Evans wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Charset: ISO-8859-1 Version: GnuPG 
>> v2.0.19 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - 
>> http://www.enigmail.net/
> 
>> hQGMAxnBnYUcC5XlAQv+Na6dnyhonE4PYKfPTgMeFbUnDsXEiV4BiqNiNccSlxdS
>>  +kTG19b3v4OXp7EhH5JWloEW0pi9s0mavkhtLjVOVavERPua486M/u7+2EcuMZMR
>>  
>> Oe2F+awiP1ElMCHwi4IVRTH8cbdE8LaZ5mygpbZb1JKsGhzQzQP8SWxpNkXTj7J5
> 
> NETMK.
> 
OpenPGP Security Info

UNTRUSTED Good signature from Mika Suomalainen

Key ID: 0x82A46728 / Signed on: 02/22/2013 12:19 PM
Key fingerprint: 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

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Re: [Enigmail] revoking a key

2013-01-23 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 01/23/2013 04:37 AM, Alessandro Basili wrote:
> On 21/01/2013 20:59, Ludwig Hgelsch¦fer wrote:
>> To come back to Enigmail: Version 1.5 is suffering from bug which
>>  probably made your signature invalid 
>> (https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/106/). This bug has been
>>  fixed in the latest nightly builds.
> 
> 
> I just installed one of the nightly builds (1.6a1pre), which
> should have the bug you pointed to fixed.
> 
> I expect this message to be signed correctly.
> 
> 
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Failing
> 
again:

OpenPGP Security Info

Error - signature verification failed

gpg command line and output:
/usr/bin/gpg2
gpg: Signature made Wed 23 Jan 2013 04:37:03 AM EST using RSA key ID
565C4450
gpg: BAD signature from "alessandro basili "
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

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NS6KEAxYSut1ruljjn7t60a9/SSRuqNianRt7BIAl83vvYxx+35dwHfPD3YAmUk=
=YWJB
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Re: [Enigmail] question on signing

2013-01-18 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 01/18/2013 10:00 AM, Alessandro Basili wrote:

[snip]

> Uhm I guess that was not the end of the story...
> 
> I now can send signed emails to whoever I want, but unfortunately
> the recipient sees an error from OpenPGP:
> 
>> OpenPGP Security Info
> 
>> Error - signature verification failed
> 
> No additional information on the 'Details' button (Thunderbird).
> 
> Can you still see a good signature?

I get this for this message, to which I am replying:

OpenPGP Security Info

UNTRUSTED Good signature from Alessandro Basili

Key ID: 0x7388FD80 / Signed on: 01/18/2013 10:00 AM
Key fingerprint: 36CE 2A86 53F5 AC4F 2CAD 925E 1A2A CAC4 7388 FD80
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail and Java

2013-01-14 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 01/14/2013 09:03 PM, David wrote:
> On 1/14/2013 8:19 PM, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> On 01/14/2013 07:07 PM, David wrote:
>>> Do I understand correctly that Enigmail is now written in Java
>>>  code? Does Enigmail require Java to 'run'? I ask because
>>> Oracle is not doing so well with Java lately.
> 
>> On Windows 7 Professional, Oracle just downloaded me a new Java 
>> suite.

I infer that one was7 u 11, but I do not remember and I would have to
reboot this machine to Windows 7 to find out.
> 
>> On Linux, I recently got the following release:
> 
>> java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.9-2.3.3.2.el6_3.x86_64
> 
> 
> The latest Java is 7 u 11 which is supposed to patch the 0-Day 
> security hole in 7 u 10. However 'those that should know' have
> said that they are not sure the security problem is fixed.

That is true for many Linux distributions, but those based on Fedora
or Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 use openjdk instead of just plain jdk,
and it is numbered differently.
> 
> I had misremembered that Enigmail is written in javascript and
> Daniel Kahn Gillmor informed me that it does not require Java in
> any way.
> 
True. I did not know one way or another.

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Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

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=TwNA
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail and Java

2013-01-14 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 01/14/2013 07:07 PM, David wrote:
> Do I understand correctly that Enigmail is now written in Java
> code? Does Enigmail require Java to 'run'? I ask because Oracle is
> not doing so well with Java lately.
> 
On Windows 7 Professional, Oracle just downloaded me a new Java suite.

On Linux, I recently got the following release:

java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.9-2.3.3.2.el6_3.x86_64
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

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Re: [Enigmail] I must be missing something: gpg-agent and pass phrases.

2013-01-01 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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On 01/01/2013 06:33 AM, Olav Seyfarth wrote:
> Hi Jean-David,
> 
> I am glad you found a solution. Sorry for not answering during the
> last days.

The delay is acceptable. I have a life other than running computers,
and I suppose you have, too. I hope our new year has started well and
continues well.
> 
>> I solved the problem. I put this in my .xsession file (at the
>> end) [...] in there as specified in the documentation. Trouble is
>> that the eval leaves the S.gpg-agent socket up in
>> /tmp/gpg-UGLYname directory instead of my .gnupg directory. I
>> cannot even move that socket or copy it because of permissions,
>> but it turns out I could link it.
> 
> This is a distro-specific problem, nothing the enigmail-team can do
> about. Please inform / discuss it with the distro's enigmail
> package maintainer.
> 

It certainly is a distro-specific problem.

I am running Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.3 (Santiago),
and there is no point taking this up with their enigmail package
maintainer, because there is none.

While RHEL distributions have many great advantages (which is why I
pay their annual fee), there are packages that come with that distro
that they maintain for 10 years, and packages you might expect that do
not, and that they do not maintain. It does not come with Thunderbird
and it does not come with enigmail. So I have to rummage around on the
Internet to find the various packages I need, then their dependencies,
and then their dependencies dependencies, etc., and hope to find a
consistent set. The most difficult one is gnucash and the climate
prediction application of BOINC. These take a couple of days to find
consistent sets of packages to run. Sigh.


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Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

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Re: [Enigmail] I must be missing something: gpg-agent and pass phrases.

2012-12-27 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 12/24/2012 08:24 AM, Olav Seyfarth wrote:
[snip]
>> I can check the box manually to sign and to encrypt, and then it works just
>> fine. But it will not remember my pass-phrase.
> 
> Different story. For ENcryption, no passphrase is required. For signing, the
> passphrase of the (hopefully protected) private key is required. For 
> DEcrypting
> the passphrase of the private key that the message is decrypted to is 
> required.
> 
> GnuPG 2.0 / gpg-agent caches passphrases for signing separately from those for
> decryption (which IS a good idea). So If you start afresh, sign and encrypt a
> message (sign with and encrypt just to your own key "A"), upon opening that 
> same
> message, you get prompted for the passphrase for DEcryption for "A". That is 
> as
> it is designed to be. Whether and how long these passphrases shall be cached 
> by
> gpg-agend is set in gpg-agent.conf in your GnuPG profile directory, see
> 
> http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Agent-Options.html
> (search for "cache" within)
> 
> Olav

None of that worked. Much private e-mail with Olav, and rummaging around
the web for days and the result was:

> I think I solved the problem. I found some undocumented code on the
> Internet that did not work, but could be fixed.
> 
> I put this in my .xsession file (at the end)
> 
> SOCKET=S.gpg-agent
> PIDOF=`pidof gpg-agent`
> RETVAL=$?
> 
> eval $(gpg-agent --daemon)
> GPG_SOCKET_FILE=`find /tmp/gpg-* -name $SOCKET`
> echo "Updating socket file link."
> ln -s $GPG_SOCKET_FILE $HOME/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent
> 
> ORIGINALLY, I had only the line
> 
> eval $(gpg-agent --daemon)
> 
> in there as specified in the documentation.
> Trouble is that the eval leaves the S.gpg-agent socket up in
> /tmp/gpg-UGLYname directory instead of my .gnupg directory. I cannot
> even move that socket or copy it because of permissions, but it turns
> out I could link it.
> 

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[Enigmail] I must be missing something: gpg-agent and pass phrases.

2012-12-23 Thread Jean-David Beyer
I am running thunderbird-10.0.7-1.el6.centos.x86_64 on Red Hat
Enterprise Linux 6.3.

I am also running gnupg2-2.0.14-4.el6.x86_64 and
enigmail-1.4.4+15.0-33.29.1.x86_64

The problem I am experiencing is that when I try to set up enigmail to
sign my e-mails to myself, it does not do it. (I have not tried sending
to others yet.) I can check the box manually to sign and to encrypt, and
then it works just fine. But it will not remember my pass-phrase.

The problem is probably related to the gpg-agent, but I do not know
where. I have examined the manual page for gpg-agent and I do not see
what I think I need.

Where should I look? Or how do I configure it, or what?

My .xsession is

DellT7600:jeandavid8[~]$ cat .xsession
eval $(gpg-agent --daemon)
if [ -f "${HOME}/.gpg-agent-info" ]; then
   . "${HOME}/.gpg-agent-info"
   export GPG_AGENT_INFO
   export SSH_AUTH_SOCK
   export SSH_AGENT_PID
fi

My .bashrc is (in part)

# User specific aliases and functions
GPG_TTY=$(tty)
export GPG_TTY

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