Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Alexander,

> My fault!

no offense meant. I'm just glad your issue is solved.

> But as I said before, encrypt by default "on" worked before v1.7.2 and 
> there is nothing mentioned about this in the changelog.

If it "worked" in 1.7 with default encrypt on, it wasn't meant like that,
so that's why there's no mention in changelog ;-)

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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Alexander Buchner]

On 30.08.2014 22:16, Olav Seyfarth wrote:
> Yeah, and they did show that encrypt by default should be off ;-)

My fault!
But as I said before, encrypt by default "on" worked before v1.7.2 and
there is nothing mentioned about this in the changelog.

Now everything is fine and let's hope that not too many people were
using my set of preferences and are having the same problem right now.



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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

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Hi,

> The tiny images were just fine.  They were not stripped off.

Yeah, and they did show that encrypt by default should be off ;-)

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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

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On 30.08.14 18:52, Alexander Buchner wrote:
> On 30.08.2014 14:12, Philip Jackson wrote:
>> When trying your 2 cases and using Thunderbird 31 with enigmail
>> 1.7.2, I just get a request for passphrase because normally I
>> have all emails signed.  If I force non-signing for emails sent
>> out according to your 2 cases, then the emails just go with no
>> dialog at all.
> 
> I think I found my "mistake".
> 
> In Account Settings --> OpenPGP Security I have to DEactivate
> "Encrypt messages by default"
> 
> Before v1.7.2. the logic must have been different because my
> desired behavior could be achieved with this option enabled.
> 
> As a last wish: What are the recommended settings for
> 
> - encrypt every message where I have all recipients' public keys
> (or rules) - otherwise don't encrypt ?

1. Enigmail preferences:
- - Enable convenient encryption

2. Account settings
- - Do not enable any encryption or signing option

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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Alexander Buchner]

On 30.08.2014 14:12, Philip Jackson wrote:
> When trying your 2 cases and using Thunderbird 31 with enigmail 1.7.2, I just
> get a request for passphrase because normally I have all emails signed.  If I
> force non-signing for emails sent out according to your 2 cases, then the 
> emails
> just go with no dialog at all.

I think I found my "mistake".

In Account Settings --> OpenPGP Security I have to DEactivate "Encrypt
messages by default"

Before v1.7.2. the logic must have been different because my desired
behavior could be achieved with this option enabled.

As a last wish:
What are the recommended settings for

- encrypt every message where I have all recipients' public keys (or rules)
- otherwise don't encrypt
?



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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Philip Jackson]

On 29/08/14 19:19, Olav Seyfarth wrote:
> I think I never tried to send a message with attached images (tiny!) to the
> list. I don't know whether they are stripped or not, we'll see. If so, I'll
> put them on my website for a while and send links.
> 
> Olav

The tiny images were just fine.  They were not stripped off.
Philip



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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Philip Jackson]

On 29/08/14 22:09, Alexander Buchner wrote:
> What I just now tested:
> 
> 1
> 
> - Tab sending:
>   Turn on convenience mode
> - Tab Key selection:
>   Turn on the first three items
>   (all except "always manually")
> 
> Result: When sending mail to person who doesn't use encryption -->
> Dialog "Enigmail Key Selection" pops up.

Not for me

> 
> 2
> - Tab sending:
>   Turn on convenience mode
> - Tab Key selection:
>   Turn on the first two items
> 
> Result: When sending mail to person who doesn't use encryption -->
> Dialog "Enigmail Key Selection" pops up.

Not for me

> 
> Can somebody else confirm this with 1.7.2 or am I the only one with
> problems here?

When trying your 2 cases and using Thunderbird 31 with enigmail 1.7.2, I just
get a request for passphrase because normally I have all emails signed.  If I
force non-signing for emails sent out according to your 2 cases, then the emails
just go with no dialog at all.

Philip



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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Alexander Buchner]

On 29.08.2014 22:36, Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail) wrote:
> Strange.
> Does it even happen if the person without encryption
> is the only one recipient?

Yes, it does.
For example I experience the same behavior when I send this mail to the
mailing list.

> Because it is enough to have just one rule that forces encryption.
> If that's the case, remove the rule.

The only rule I have is not related to this recipient (nor to the
address of the mailing list).




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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail)]

Strange.
Does it even happen if the person without encryption
is the only one recipient?
Because it is enough to have just one rule that forces encryption.
If that's the case, remove the rule.

Hope that helps
 Nico

Am 29.08.2014 22:09, Alexander Buchner schrieb/wrote:
> On 29.08.2014 20:51, Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail) wrote:
>> Hi Alexander,
>> 
>> what you want should be easy to reach: - Tab sending: Turn on
>> convenience mode - Tab Key selection: Turn on the first three
>> items (all except "always manually")
>> 
>> Then whenever keys for all recipients exist, the email
>> automatically gets encrypted (unless recipient rules say not to
>> do so).
>> 
>> All other emails are not automatically encrypted (unless
>> recipient rules force encryption).
>> 
>> If rules force encryption or you explicitly forces it (by
>> clicking on the key symbol) and keys are missing, the key
>> selection dialog will pop-up to give you the ability to choose
>> the missing keys (or disable sending/encryption).
>> 
>> Hope this helps Nico
> 
> Hi Nico,
> 
> thank you for your advice. Unfortunately your recommended settings
> don't work for me.
> 
> What I just now tested:
> 
> 1
> 
> - Tab sending: Turn on convenience mode - Tab Key selection: Turn
> on the first three items (all except "always manually")
> 
> Result: When sending mail to person who doesn't use encryption --> 
> Dialog "Enigmail Key Selection" pops up.
> 
> 2 - Tab sending: Turn on convenience mode - Tab Key selection: Turn
> on the first two items
> 
> Result: When sending mail to person who doesn't use encryption --> 
> Dialog "Enigmail Key Selection" pops up.
> 
> Can somebody else confirm this with 1.7.2 or am I the only one
> with problems here?
> 
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Alexander Buchner]

On 29.08.2014 20:51, Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail) wrote:
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> what you want should be easy to reach:
> - Tab sending:
>   Turn on convenience mode
> - Tab Key selection:
>   Turn on the first three items
>   (all except "always manually")
> 
> Then whenever keys for all recipients exist,
> the email automatically gets encrypted
> (unless recipient rules say not to do so).
> 
> All other emails are not automatically encrypted
> (unless recipient rules force encryption).
> 
> If rules force encryption or you explicitly
> forces it (by clicking on the key symbol)
> and keys are missing, the key selection dialog will pop-up
> to give you the ability to choose the missing keys
> (or disable sending/encryption).
> 
> Hope this helps
>  Nico

Hi Nico,

thank you for your advice. Unfortunately your recommended settings don't
work for me.

What I just now tested:

1

- Tab sending:
  Turn on convenience mode
- Tab Key selection:
  Turn on the first three items
  (all except "always manually")

Result: When sending mail to person who doesn't use encryption -->
Dialog "Enigmail Key Selection" pops up.

2
- Tab sending:
  Turn on convenience mode
- Tab Key selection:
  Turn on the first two items

Result: When sending mail to person who doesn't use encryption -->
Dialog "Enigmail Key Selection" pops up.

Can somebody else confirm this with 1.7.2 or am I the only one with
problems here?



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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail)]

Hi Alexander,

what you want should be easy to reach:
- Tab sending:
  Turn on convenience mode
- Tab Key selection:
  Turn on the first three items
  (all except "always manually")

Then whenever keys for all recipients exist,
the email automatically gets encrypted
(unless recipient rules say not to do so).

All other emails are not automatically encrypted
(unless recipient rules force encryption).

If rules force encryption or you explicitly
forces it (by clicking on the key symbol)
and keys are missing, the key selection dialog will pop-up
to give you the ability to choose the missing keys
(or disable sending/encryption).

Hope this helps
 Nico


Am 29.08.2014 20:33, Alexander Buchner schrieb/wrote:
> On 29.08.2014 19:19, Olav Seyfarth wrote:
>> Hi Alexander,
>>
>>> The update overwrote my preferences again and activated the "convenient 
>>> encryption settings" without a warning.
>>
>> I use the attached settings and installing 1.7.2 did not change any settings.
>> I'll try to reproduce this by creating a new profile and installing 1.6, 1.7
>> and 1.7.2 in that order. How were your prefs in 1.6?
>>
>>> My preferences were 1. enrypt if I have a public key for the recipient (or
>>> a rule) and 2. don't encrypt if 1 isn't true without the "Enigmail Key
>>> Selection" window. I did this by deactivating "Key Selection: Manually if
>>> Keys are Missing". Is this still possible? At least it doesn't work the
>>> same way as with version 1.7.
>>
>> Yes, I do the same. Indeed, I think, that's what most people want/should set.
>> Attached are my settings. With them, I think you get what you describe above
>> or did I miss something?
>>
>> I think I never tried to send a message with attached images (tiny!) to the
>> list. I don't know whether they are stripped or not, we'll see. If so, I'll
>> put them on my website for a while and send links.
>>
>> Olav
> 
> Hm, I'm really confused right now.
> 
> What I want: After hitting "Send" I don't want to see any further dialog
> for missing keys etc... just encrypt it or don't encrypt it.
> 
> And you say you achieve this behavior by setting "Confirm before
> sending" to "Always"?! That would really astonish me?!
> For me it's: "Never"
> 
> Also setting "Key Selection" to "Manually if Keys are Missing" is not
> what I want.
> 
> Either we both talk about two different things or something really weird
> is happening for me?!
> 
> Alexander
> 
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Alexander Buchner]

On 29.08.2014 19:19, Olav Seyfarth wrote:
> Hi Alexander,
> 
>> The update overwrote my preferences again and activated the "convenient 
>> encryption settings" without a warning.
> 
> I use the attached settings and installing 1.7.2 did not change any settings.
> I'll try to reproduce this by creating a new profile and installing 1.6, 1.7
> and 1.7.2 in that order. How were your prefs in 1.6?
> 
>> My preferences were 1. enrypt if I have a public key for the recipient (or
>> a rule) and 2. don't encrypt if 1 isn't true without the "Enigmail Key
>> Selection" window. I did this by deactivating "Key Selection: Manually if
>> Keys are Missing". Is this still possible? At least it doesn't work the
>> same way as with version 1.7.
> 
> Yes, I do the same. Indeed, I think, that's what most people want/should set.
> Attached are my settings. With them, I think you get what you describe above
> or did I miss something?
> 
> I think I never tried to send a message with attached images (tiny!) to the
> list. I don't know whether they are stripped or not, we'll see. If so, I'll
> put them on my website for a while and send links.
> 
> Olav

Hm, I'm really confused right now.

What I want: After hitting "Send" I don't want to see any further dialog
for missing keys etc... just encrypt it or don't encrypt it.

And you say you achieve this behavior by setting "Confirm before
sending" to "Always"?! That would really astonish me?!
For me it's: "Never"

Also setting "Key Selection" to "Manually if Keys are Missing" is not
what I want.

Either we both talk about two different things or something really weird
is happening for me?!

Alexander



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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

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On 8/29/14 1:14 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
| I'm happy to announce the availability of Enigmail v1.7.2 for
| Thunderbird 24 - 31

Works great so far. Thanks to you and the team for getting the bug-fix
out so soon. As one of the people who requested the opportunistic
encryption option I am really happy to see it come to fruition. :)

Doug

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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

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> I'm happy to announce the availability of Enigmail v1.7.2 for 
> Thunderbird 24 - 31, and SeaMonkey 2.20 and newer.

Good news!

Works fine with Thunderbird 32.0b1 / Win7 x64 Pro SP1.
All Enigmail settings after update to 1.7.2 are identical to those of
before update.

P.S.
Unfortunately, my update of ja-JP translation seems to be too late for
1.7.2 release...

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Hi,

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:14:34 +0200, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

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Hi,

> Is there a devel mailing list ?

please write to me and I'll forward your message. Hope that's OK for now.

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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Alexander,

> The update overwrote my preferences again and activated the "convenient 
> encryption settings" without a warning.

I use the attached settings and installing 1.7.2 did not change any settings.
I'll try to reproduce this by creating a new profile and installing 1.6, 1.7
and 1.7.2 in that order. How were your prefs in 1.6?

> My preferences were 1. enrypt if I have a public key for the recipient (or
> a rule) and 2. don't encrypt if 1 isn't true without the "Enigmail Key
> Selection" window. I did this by deactivating "Key Selection: Manually if
> Keys are Missing". Is this still possible? At least it doesn't work the
> same way as with version 1.7.

Yes, I do the same. Indeed, I think, that's what most people want/should set.
Attached are my settings. With them, I think you get what you describe above
or did I miss something?

I think I never tried to send a message with attached images (tiny!) to the
list. I don't know whether they are stripped or not, we'll see. If so, I'll
put them on my website for a while and send links.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras]

Hmm thanks for news ! I just upgrade it .. is there a devel mailing list ?

On 08/29/2014 07:08 PM, Alexander Buchner wrote:
> On 29.08.2014 10:14, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> I'm happy to announce the availability of Enigmail v1.7.2 for
>> Thunderbird 24 - 31, and SeaMonkey 2.20 and newer.
>>
>>
>> Notable Changes
>> ===
>>
>> * This is a bugfix release, fixing several major issues found in v1.7.
>> * A security bug (CVE-2014-5369) has been fixed.
>>
>> Obtaining Enigmail
>> ==
>> Enigmail can be downloaded from
>> 
>> The changelog is available from
>> 
>>
>>
>> As usually, it will take a while until the version will be available
>> from addons.mozilla.org.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>> PS. In case you wonder why there is no v1.7.1 -- due to a technical
>> issue on addons.mozilla.org I was forced to skip v1.7.1.
> 
> The update overwrote my preferences again and activated the "convenient
> encryption settings" without a warning.
> 
> Furthermore my preferences were
> 1. enrypt if I have a public key for the recipient (or a rule) and
> 2. don't encrypt if 1 isn't true
> without the "Enigmail Key Selection" window. I did this by deactivating
> "Key Selection: Manually if Keys are Missing".
> 
> Is this still possible? At least it doesn't work the same way as with
> version 1.7.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Alexander Buchner]

On 29.08.2014 10:14, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> I'm happy to announce the availability of Enigmail v1.7.2 for
> Thunderbird 24 - 31, and SeaMonkey 2.20 and newer.
> 
> 
> Notable Changes
> ===
> 
> * This is a bugfix release, fixing several major issues found in v1.7.
> * A security bug (CVE-2014-5369) has been fixed.
> 
> Obtaining Enigmail
> ==
> Enigmail can be downloaded from
> 
> The changelog is available from
> 
> 
> 
> As usually, it will take a while until the version will be available
> from addons.mozilla.org.
> 
> -Patrick
> 
> PS. In case you wonder why there is no v1.7.1 -- due to a technical
> issue on addons.mozilla.org I was forced to skip v1.7.1.

The update overwrote my preferences again and activated the "convenient
encryption settings" without a warning.

Furthermore my preferences were
1. enrypt if I have a public key for the recipient (or a rule) and
2. don't encrypt if 1 isn't true
without the "Enigmail Key Selection" window. I did this by deactivating
"Key Selection: Manually if Keys are Missing".

Is this still possible? At least it doesn't work the same way as with
version 1.7.



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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

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I'm happy to announce the availability of Enigmail v1.7.2 for
Thunderbird 24 - 31, and SeaMonkey 2.20 and newer.


Notable Changes
===

* This is a bugfix release, fixing several major issues found in v1.7.
* A security bug (CVE-2014-5369) has been fixed.

Obtaining Enigmail
==
Enigmail can be downloaded from

The changelog is available from



As usually, it will take a while until the version will be available
from addons.mozilla.org.

- -Patrick

PS. In case you wonder why there is no v1.7.1 -- due to a technical
issue on addons.mozilla.org I was forced to skip v1.7.1.
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