Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hi Atton,

Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX
to create graphically beautiful presentations.

I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any
editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this
the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes.

Please update us on the progress and when you need help in testing, I'm
available for testing it :).

Best regards,
Michael

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Atton,

 Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
 interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for
 LaTeX
 to create graphically beautiful presentations.

 I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in
 any
 editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is
 this
 the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes.



 Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
 presentations?
 With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their
 presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on
 the presentation itself?

problem is that presentation editor is so big topic that it will do as
another project, actually it's much more complex than this project is
supposed to be.

that said, having such a simple language is very easy to generate and
load from files.

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Chady Kassouf
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Atton,

 Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
 interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for
 LaTeX
 to create graphically beautiful presentations.

 I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in
 any
 editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is
 this
 the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes.



Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
presentations?
With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their
presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on
the presentation itself?


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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Atton Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hey hey :)

 I ll work with my mentors (Cedric BAIL and  Sthithaprajna Garapaty
 ) on a presentation tools using the efl during the Gsoc. I write this
 email to present you the project and tell you how we plan to do this
 apps. Currently I m busy with the university, I ll start working on the
 project in 2 weeks and I ll update the wiki.

 You can find the gsoc application on the wiki:
 http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Soc2008/Presentation_tools

 Currently we plan to implement :
 - a basic page format: header / body / foot
 - an item list
 - some basics property: bold, underline ...
 - include an image, an .edj
 Next features as tables will be implement when edje will support
 layouts.

probably just after GSoC is over :-)

 then the viewer will have some cool features with beautifuls effects as
 a list of slides, transitions between the slides...

cool, try to make them as edje as much as possible, so we can change them later.


 About the file which describes the presentation, we plan to use the same
 syntax as edje. So we can use the source code of edje_cc as a base for
 the compiler and maintain the app will be more easy for the community.

Ok, having something like that is good. However I'd make EET the file
format, not text. Then we can use another tool to generate and load it
more easily. And it can pack images and fonts as well.

Ah, something that would be good is to have the file as
edje-compatible, then we could just add every resource as edje
(images, fonts) and merge edjes. Then you just add your own
description using another namespace. Your presentation tool would
then load this presentation descriptor and display required edje
groups.

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hi Chady,

* [23.05.08 09:49]:
 Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
 presentations?
Everybody somewhen at some time? :)

 With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their
 presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on
 the presentation itself?
Both should be possible. I just mentioned 'my way' to ensure it is not
forgotten about and some GUI is *necessary* for creating presentations in the
end - we should let the user decide what he wants...

Best regards,
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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Atton Jonathan
On Fri, 23 May 2008 09:13:05 +0200
Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi Atton,
 
 Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
 interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot
 for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations.
 
 I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input
 file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility,
 like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI
 except for creating schemes.

The input file with will be a simple ascii file, and a parser will
compile the file into an eet file. So yes you ll can write the
presentation with a simple editor.

 
 Please update us on the progress and when you need help in testing,
 I'm available for testing it :).

oki :)
 
 Best regards,
 Michael
 
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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Atton Jonathan
On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:25 +0300
Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Atton,
 
  Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
  interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot
  for LaTeX
  to create graphically beautiful presentations.
 
  I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input
  file in any
  editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like
  LaTeX. Is this
  the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating
  schemes.
 
 
 
 Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
 presentations?
 With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating
 their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in
 concentrating on the presentation itself?
 
 

We can create a front end for an ascii presentation file, this is not a
problem I guess. Currently we want something easy to use and create,
write a front end add a lot of job/problems.

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Atton Jonathan
On Fri, 23 May 2008 04:54:12 -0300
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Chady Kassouf
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  Hi Atton,
 
  Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm
  very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than
  powerdot for LaTeX
  to create graphically beautiful presentations.
 
  I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input
  file in any
  editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like
  LaTeX. Is this
  the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating
  schemes.
 
 
 
  Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in
  creating presentations?
  With that in mind, would that person be really interested in
  creating their presentation in a text file or are they more
  interested in concentrating on the presentation itself?
 
 problem is that presentation editor is so big topic that it will do as
 another project, actually it's much more complex than this project is
 supposed to be.
 
 that said, having such a simple language is very easy to generate and
 load from files.
 

next times i ll read all the emails before responding :)

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Re: [E-devel] focus issue

2008-05-23 Thread Massimo Maiurana
Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy, il 05/03/2008 23:50, scrisse:
 Will check that, thanks for the report.
 
 Greets,
 Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
 
 On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 12:54:00PM +0100, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 hi,
 I compiled yesterday cvs and now looks like there are some problems
 with focus settings.
 I've always used sloppy focus and only new dialogs get focus,
 but now dialogs never get focus.
 I tried setting new windows get focus and focus follows pointer
 but still no luck, the only way to have dialogs get focus is to set
 focus follows mouse clicks; that way either only new dialogs get
 focus or new windows get focus works as expected.

sloppy focus is still not working in cvs, at least for me.

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Re: [E-devel] focus issue

2008-05-23 Thread Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
Yes, will fix that probably on weekend.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:59:17PM +0200, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy, il 05/03/2008 23:50, scrisse:
  Will check that, thanks for the report.
  
  Greets,
  Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
  
  On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 12:54:00PM +0100, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
  hi,
  I compiled yesterday cvs and now looks like there are some problems
  with focus settings.
  I've always used sloppy focus and only new dialogs get focus,
  but now dialogs never get focus.
  I tried setting new windows get focus and focus follows pointer
  but still no luck, the only way to have dialogs get focus is to set
  focus follows mouse clicks; that way either only new dialogs get
  focus or new windows get focus works as expected.
 
 sloppy focus is still not working in cvs, at least for me.
 
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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread thomasg
What I'd like to have would be an real simple solution, in the best case
human-readable plain-text (no TeX or html code) and letting the presenter
render it to make it nice and shiny. Why not use something like Textile[1]
or similar solutions [2] [3]?
Additional just use edje-templates to define the style.
Would be extremely easy for the user, look nice and consistent, and not such
a giant waste of time like Powerpoint, OOImpress, LaTeX and so on.
And you can concentrate on the content only, not on irrelevant side work.

Looking forward what you'll bring us.


[1] http://textile.thresholdstate.com/
[2] http://web-content-viewer.org/description.txt (input)
[3] http://web-content-viewer.org/description.html (output)

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Atton Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:25 +0300
 Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi Atton,
  
   Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
   interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot
   for LaTeX
   to create graphically beautiful presentations.
  
   I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input
   file in any
   editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like
   LaTeX. Is this
   the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating
   schemes.
  
 
 
  Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
  presentations?
  With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating
  their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in
  concentrating on the presentation itself?
 
 

 We can create a front end for an ascii presentation file, this is not a
 problem I guess. Currently we want something easy to use and create,
 write a front end add a lot of job/problems.

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[E-devel] French translation broken

2008-05-23 Thread Andreas Thillosen
The latest version of E17 in cvs seems to be broken, when compiled with 
french translation.
I have tested it on Gentoo, using vapier overlay.
Error happens when emerging e-.ebuild package, and problems seems 
related to an error in fr.po file.

make[3]: quittant le répertoire « 
/var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e/po »
test -z fr.gmo || make fr.gmo
make[3]: entrant dans le répertoire « 
/var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e/po »
/usr/bin/msgmerge --update fr.po enlightenment.pot

 
terminé.
rm -f fr.gmo  /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -c --statistics -o fr.gmo fr.po
fr.po:1001: Les spécifications de format entre « msgid » et « msgstr » 
de l'argument 1 ne sont pas identiques
/usr/bin/gmsgfmt: 1 erreur fatale trouvée
1289 messages traduits, 5 traductions approximatives, 6 messages non 
traduits.
make[3]: *** [fr.gmo] Erreur 1
make[3]: quittant le répertoire « 
/var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e/po »
make[2]: *** [stamp-po] Erreur 2
make[2]: quittant le répertoire « 
/var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e/po »
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[1]: quittant le répertoire « 
/var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e »
make: *** [all] Erreur 2

Andreas.


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[E-devel] Nightly build log for E17 on 2008-05-23 07:10:14 -0700

2008-05-23 Thread Nightly build system
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-05-23 07:10:14 -0700
Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs

Packages that failed to build:
edvi  http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/edvi.log
enna  http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log
epdf  http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log
evolve  http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/evolve.log

Packages with no supported build system:
entice, esmart_rsvg, exorcist, python-efl, 

Packages skipped:
camE, ecore_dbus, engage, enotes, enscribe, epbb, eplay, erss, etk_server, 
etox, e_utils, Evas_Perl, evoak, gfx_routines, lvs-gui, med, nexus, notgame, 
ruby-efl, webcam, 

Packages that build OK:
alarm, bling, calendar, cpu, deskshow, echo, eclair, ecore_li, ecore, edata, 
edb, e_dbus, edje_editor, edje, edje_viewer, eet, eflame, eflpp, efm_nav, 
efm_path, efreet, elapse, elation, elicit, elitaire, e, embrace, embryo, 
emotion, emphasis, empower, emprint, emu, enesim, engrave, engycad, enhance, 
enity, enterminus, enthrall, entrance_edit_gui, entrance, entropy, envision, 
epeg, ephoto, e_phys, epsilon, epx, equate, esmart, estickies, etk_extra, 
etk, etk-perl, evas, evfs, ewl, examine, execwatch, exhibit, exml, expedite, 
express, exquisite, extrackt, feh, flame, forecasts, gevas2, iconbar, iiirk, 
imlib2_loaders, imlib2, Imlib2_Perl, imlib2_tools, language, mail, mem, 
mixer, moon, mpdule, net, news, notification, penguins, pesh, photo, rage, 
rain, screenshot, scrot, slideshow, snow, taskbar, tclock, uptime, weather, 
winselector, wlan, 

Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 \n \l

Linux enlightenment2 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686 
GNU/Linux


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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: apps/e morlenxus

2008-05-23 Thread Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:48:04AM -0500, Alberto Castro wrote:
 Enlightenment CVS wrote:
 Enlightenment CVS committal

 Author  : morlenxus
 Project : e17
 Module  : apps/e

 Dir : e17/apps/e/src/bin


 Modified Files:
  e_int_border_menu.c e_border.h 


 Log Message:
 Better sorted border menu.

snip

 This is good, although More.. is usually reserved as the last entry on  
 a list/menu. Moving on, the contents of the window border menu have  
 shifted quite a lot (pixels) due to this commit, as seen here:

 http://cored.org/tmp/border_menu_shift.png

 No longer is there padding between the submenu and the main menu (arrows).

 As oppose to what they normally look like under the main menu:
 http://cored.org/tmp/main_menu_.png

 Regards

Well i might put the more... entry at the last item of that menu, any
other oppinions?
I noticed that menu shifted pixels problems too - no clue why that
happens. Anyone?

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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: apps/e morlenxus

2008-05-23 Thread Christopher Michael
Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy wrote:
 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:48:04AM -0500, Alberto Castro wrote:

 Log Message:
 Better sorted border menu.

 snip
 This is good, although More.. is usually reserved as the last entry on  
 a list/menu. Moving on, the contents of the window border menu have  
 shifted quite a lot (pixels) due to this commit, as seen here:

 http://cored.org/tmp/border_menu_shift.png

 No longer is there padding between the submenu and the main menu (arrows).

 As oppose to what they normally look like under the main menu:
 http://cored.org/tmp/main_menu_.png

 Regards
 
 Well i might put the more... entry at the last item of that menu, any
 other oppinions?

I don't think More would be too good at the bottom of the menu due to 
the dynamic nature of the menu position. IE: if you have a window at the 
bottom of the screen and you open the menu with More at the bottom, 
then that would be the first entry that would get selected from a mouse 
movement..and odds are what the average user is looking for would not be 
in the More menu anyway.

 I noticed that menu shifted pixels problems too - no clue why that
 happens. Anyone?
 
A reordering of the menu should not have caused this...after all, a menu 
is still a menu as far as edje is concerned. I looked at the new 
ordering code and didn't see anything in there that would be causing 
this, but will take another look. Perhaps some other commit broke the menu ?

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[E-devel] [patch] eet remove src/tests in configure.in and Makefile.am

2008-05-23 Thread Tick

Hi All,
   I cannot compile the latest  5/24 eet, cause the src/tests is gone 
but configure.in and Makefile.am still have that.

So I create a little patch to fix that.

Cheers,
Tick
? compile
? eet_remove_test.patch
Index: configure.in
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/e/e17/libs/eet/configure.in,v
retrieving revision 1.99
diff -d -u -r1.99 configure.in
--- configure.in	19 May 2008 16:47:37 -	1.99
+++ configure.in	24 May 2008 03:18:31 -
@@ -209,7 +209,6 @@
 src/Makefile
 src/lib/Makefile
 src/bin/Makefile
-src/tests/Makefile
 README
 eet.spec
 ])
Index: src/Makefile.am
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/e/e17/libs/eet/src/Makefile.am,v
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -d -u -r1.6 Makefile.am
--- src/Makefile.am	16 May 2008 15:07:03 -	1.6
+++ src/Makefile.am	24 May 2008 03:18:32 -
@@ -1,3 +1,3 @@
 MAINTAINERCLEANFILES = Makefile.in
 
-SUBDIRS = lib bin tests
+SUBDIRS = lib bin
-
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