Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Please update us on the progress and when you need help in testing, I'm available for testing it :). Best regards, Michael - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? problem is that presentation editor is so big topic that it will do as another project, actually it's much more complex than this project is supposed to be. that said, having such a simple language is very easy to generate and load from files. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? -- Chady 'Leviathan' Kassouf http://chady.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Atton Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey hey :) I ll work with my mentors (Cedric BAIL and Sthithaprajna Garapaty ) on a presentation tools using the efl during the Gsoc. I write this email to present you the project and tell you how we plan to do this apps. Currently I m busy with the university, I ll start working on the project in 2 weeks and I ll update the wiki. You can find the gsoc application on the wiki: http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Soc2008/Presentation_tools Currently we plan to implement : - a basic page format: header / body / foot - an item list - some basics property: bold, underline ... - include an image, an .edj Next features as tables will be implement when edje will support layouts. probably just after GSoC is over :-) then the viewer will have some cool features with beautifuls effects as a list of slides, transitions between the slides... cool, try to make them as edje as much as possible, so we can change them later. About the file which describes the presentation, we plan to use the same syntax as edje. So we can use the source code of edje_cc as a base for the compiler and maintain the app will be more easy for the community. Ok, having something like that is good. However I'd make EET the file format, not text. Then we can use another tool to generate and load it more easily. And it can pack images and fonts as well. Ah, something that would be good is to have the file as edje-compatible, then we could just add every resource as edje (images, fonts) and merge edjes. Then you just add your own description using another namespace. Your presentation tool would then load this presentation descriptor and display required edje groups. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
Hi Chady, * [23.05.08 09:49]: Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? Everybody somewhen at some time? :) With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? Both should be possible. I just mentioned 'my way' to ensure it is not forgotten about and some GUI is *necessary* for creating presentations in the end - we should let the user decide what he wants... Best regards, Michael - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, 23 May 2008 09:13:05 +0200 Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. The input file with will be a simple ascii file, and a parser will compile the file into an eet file. So yes you ll can write the presentation with a simple editor. Please update us on the progress and when you need help in testing, I'm available for testing it :). oki :) Best regards, Michael - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:25 +0300 Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? We can create a front end for an ascii presentation file, this is not a problem I guess. Currently we want something easy to use and create, write a front end add a lot of job/problems. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, 23 May 2008 04:54:12 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? problem is that presentation editor is so big topic that it will do as another project, actually it's much more complex than this project is supposed to be. that said, having such a simple language is very easy to generate and load from files. next times i ll read all the emails before responding :) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] focus issue
Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy, il 05/03/2008 23:50, scrisse: Will check that, thanks for the report. Greets, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 12:54:00PM +0100, Massimo Maiurana wrote: hi, I compiled yesterday cvs and now looks like there are some problems with focus settings. I've always used sloppy focus and only new dialogs get focus, but now dialogs never get focus. I tried setting new windows get focus and focus follows pointer but still no luck, the only way to have dialogs get focus is to set focus follows mouse clicks; that way either only new dialogs get focus or new windows get focus works as expected. sloppy focus is still not working in cvs, at least for me. -- Massimo Maiurana massimoatragusa.linux.it http://massimo.solira.org GPG keyID #7044D601 Articolo 11 - L'Italia ripudia la guerra come strumento di offesa alla libertà degli altri popoli e come mezzo di risoluzione delle controversie internazionali - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] focus issue
Yes, will fix that probably on weekend. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:59:17PM +0200, Massimo Maiurana wrote: Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy, il 05/03/2008 23:50, scrisse: Will check that, thanks for the report. Greets, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 12:54:00PM +0100, Massimo Maiurana wrote: hi, I compiled yesterday cvs and now looks like there are some problems with focus settings. I've always used sloppy focus and only new dialogs get focus, but now dialogs never get focus. I tried setting new windows get focus and focus follows pointer but still no luck, the only way to have dialogs get focus is to set focus follows mouse clicks; that way either only new dialogs get focus or new windows get focus works as expected. sloppy focus is still not working in cvs, at least for me. -- Massimo Maiurana massimoatragusa.linux.it http://massimo.solira.org GPG keyID #7044D601 Articolo 11 - L'Italia ripudia la guerra come strumento di offesa alla libertà degli altri popoli e come mezzo di risoluzione delle controversie internazionali - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
What I'd like to have would be an real simple solution, in the best case human-readable plain-text (no TeX or html code) and letting the presenter render it to make it nice and shiny. Why not use something like Textile[1] or similar solutions [2] [3]? Additional just use edje-templates to define the style. Would be extremely easy for the user, look nice and consistent, and not such a giant waste of time like Powerpoint, OOImpress, LaTeX and so on. And you can concentrate on the content only, not on irrelevant side work. Looking forward what you'll bring us. [1] http://textile.thresholdstate.com/ [2] http://web-content-viewer.org/description.txt (input) [3] http://web-content-viewer.org/description.html (output) On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Atton Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:25 +0300 Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? We can create a front end for an ascii presentation file, this is not a problem I guess. Currently we want something easy to use and create, write a front end add a lot of job/problems. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] French translation broken
The latest version of E17 in cvs seems to be broken, when compiled with french translation. I have tested it on Gentoo, using vapier overlay. Error happens when emerging e-.ebuild package, and problems seems related to an error in fr.po file. make[3]: quittant le répertoire « /var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e/po » test -z fr.gmo || make fr.gmo make[3]: entrant dans le répertoire « /var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e/po » /usr/bin/msgmerge --update fr.po enlightenment.pot terminé. rm -f fr.gmo /usr/bin/gmsgfmt -c --statistics -o fr.gmo fr.po fr.po:1001: Les spécifications de format entre « msgid » et « msgstr » de l'argument 1 ne sont pas identiques /usr/bin/gmsgfmt: 1 erreur fatale trouvée 1289 messages traduits, 5 traductions approximatives, 6 messages non traduits. make[3]: *** [fr.gmo] Erreur 1 make[3]: quittant le répertoire « /var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e/po » make[2]: *** [stamp-po] Erreur 2 make[2]: quittant le répertoire « /var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e/po » make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1 make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /var/tmp/portage/x11-wm/e-/work/e17/apps/e » make: *** [all] Erreur 2 Andreas. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Nightly build log for E17 on 2008-05-23 07:10:14 -0700
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-05-23 07:10:14 -0700 Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs Packages that failed to build: edvi http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/edvi.log enna http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log epdf http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log evolve http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/evolve.log Packages with no supported build system: entice, esmart_rsvg, exorcist, python-efl, Packages skipped: camE, ecore_dbus, engage, enotes, enscribe, epbb, eplay, erss, etk_server, etox, e_utils, Evas_Perl, evoak, gfx_routines, lvs-gui, med, nexus, notgame, ruby-efl, webcam, Packages that build OK: alarm, bling, calendar, cpu, deskshow, echo, eclair, ecore_li, ecore, edata, edb, e_dbus, edje_editor, edje, edje_viewer, eet, eflame, eflpp, efm_nav, efm_path, efreet, elapse, elation, elicit, elitaire, e, embrace, embryo, emotion, emphasis, empower, emprint, emu, enesim, engrave, engycad, enhance, enity, enterminus, enthrall, entrance_edit_gui, entrance, entropy, envision, epeg, ephoto, e_phys, epsilon, epx, equate, esmart, estickies, etk_extra, etk, etk-perl, evas, evfs, ewl, examine, execwatch, exhibit, exml, expedite, express, exquisite, extrackt, feh, flame, forecasts, gevas2, iconbar, iiirk, imlib2_loaders, imlib2, Imlib2_Perl, imlib2_tools, language, mail, mem, mixer, moon, mpdule, net, news, notification, penguins, pesh, photo, rage, rain, screenshot, scrot, slideshow, snow, taskbar, tclock, uptime, weather, winselector, wlan, Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 \n \l Linux enlightenment2 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux See http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/ for details. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E CVS: apps/e morlenxus
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:48:04AM -0500, Alberto Castro wrote: Enlightenment CVS wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : morlenxus Project : e17 Module : apps/e Dir : e17/apps/e/src/bin Modified Files: e_int_border_menu.c e_border.h Log Message: Better sorted border menu. snip This is good, although More.. is usually reserved as the last entry on a list/menu. Moving on, the contents of the window border menu have shifted quite a lot (pixels) due to this commit, as seen here: http://cored.org/tmp/border_menu_shift.png No longer is there padding between the submenu and the main menu (arrows). As oppose to what they normally look like under the main menu: http://cored.org/tmp/main_menu_.png Regards Well i might put the more... entry at the last item of that menu, any other oppinions? I noticed that menu shifted pixels problems too - no clue why that happens. Anyone? Kind regards, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy -- Alberto Castro +1 (773)816.1005 http://cored.org/ Interface guidelines: An art form that was never alive. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E CVS: apps/e morlenxus
Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:48:04AM -0500, Alberto Castro wrote: Log Message: Better sorted border menu. snip This is good, although More.. is usually reserved as the last entry on a list/menu. Moving on, the contents of the window border menu have shifted quite a lot (pixels) due to this commit, as seen here: http://cored.org/tmp/border_menu_shift.png No longer is there padding between the submenu and the main menu (arrows). As oppose to what they normally look like under the main menu: http://cored.org/tmp/main_menu_.png Regards Well i might put the more... entry at the last item of that menu, any other oppinions? I don't think More would be too good at the bottom of the menu due to the dynamic nature of the menu position. IE: if you have a window at the bottom of the screen and you open the menu with More at the bottom, then that would be the first entry that would get selected from a mouse movement..and odds are what the average user is looking for would not be in the More menu anyway. I noticed that menu shifted pixels problems too - no clue why that happens. Anyone? A reordering of the menu should not have caused this...after all, a menu is still a menu as far as edje is concerned. I looked at the new ordering code and didn't see anything in there that would be causing this, but will take another look. Perhaps some other commit broke the menu ? dh - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [patch] eet remove src/tests in configure.in and Makefile.am
Hi All, I cannot compile the latest 5/24 eet, cause the src/tests is gone but configure.in and Makefile.am still have that. So I create a little patch to fix that. Cheers, Tick ? compile ? eet_remove_test.patch Index: configure.in === RCS file: /var/cvs/e/e17/libs/eet/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.99 diff -d -u -r1.99 configure.in --- configure.in 19 May 2008 16:47:37 - 1.99 +++ configure.in 24 May 2008 03:18:31 - @@ -209,7 +209,6 @@ src/Makefile src/lib/Makefile src/bin/Makefile -src/tests/Makefile README eet.spec ]) Index: src/Makefile.am === RCS file: /var/cvs/e/e17/libs/eet/src/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -d -u -r1.6 Makefile.am --- src/Makefile.am 16 May 2008 15:07:03 - 1.6 +++ src/Makefile.am 24 May 2008 03:18:32 - @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ MAINTAINERCLEANFILES = Makefile.in -SUBDIRS = lib bin tests +SUBDIRS = lib bin - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel