Re: [E-devel] Building Enlightenment libraries with MinGW
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Vincent Torri vincent.to...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:51 PM, LM lme...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent Torri wrote: * about the build, there is a wiki page, but it's not up to date (because of some move in the trunk). Before that move, i can build and run the EFL on Windows XP. I've never tried with win XP I read the wiki page. As you mentioned, it's not up-to-date. So, does this mean there's no place to submit patches and work-arounds for Windows developers? I've already spent quite a lot of time trying to track down why certain libraries wouldn't compile and coming up with patches. I have evil, eina, evas, ecore, eet, embryo compiling and building successfully with patches. Was looking into edje which also won't build on my system without patching. I thought standard procedure with Open Source projects was to contact the developers and share fixes needed to make them work on other platforms. send the patches on the ML, please. I'll take care of them (well i'll be away for 5 days, so don't expect them to hit svn immediatly). I prefer the ML instead of a private mail. * dlfcn-win32 is dead and the author does not want to add non POSIX extension (like the GNU dladdr, which I have added). I have too less time to fix that. If you can provide a patch that fix all the problems, fine, otherwise, install the EFL in their own directory, it will fix the problem MinGW project still recommends the dlfcn-win32 library. If you have something better, you should let them know about it. Thanks. I don't use MingW, I use mingw-w64. A LOT better. And as I said, just install the EFL in their own dir, it's sufficient. I won't let MinGW devs know about that problem as they won't do anything anyway about dlfcn-win32. I've already dealt with them, with patches, etc... I have patches in their bugzilla that I sent 6 or 7 years ago... So I gave up. The problem with Windows is that there is no centralized package system. The only viable solution is to install a project, an application, etc... in its own directory. also, for the current efl/ subdir, eina can not be compiled (eina_thread.c), I'm waiting for cedric to fix that code (it's his code..) Vincent -- WINDOWS 8 is here. Millions of people. Your app in 30 days. Visit The Windows 8 Center at Sourceforge for all your go to resources. http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ join-generation-app-and-make-money-coding-fast/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: cedric trunk/efl/src/lib/eina
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Vincent Torri vincent.to...@gmail.com wrote:
I see 2 remaining problems:
line 149:
tw = _eina_thread_win32_find(index);
index is not defined. Do you mean t instead of index ?
Yes, fixed.
Second problem : _current_index. It is initialized to 1, then the only
other use of _current_index is :
do {
tw-index = _current_index++;
} while (tw-index == 0);
so I doubt that one day, tw-index will be 0.
It will be zero when you are looking for a thread that is not created
by us... that should only happen for the main loop in our use case.
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Re: [E-devel] dark small feedback
On 28/10/2012, at 01:09, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:05:08 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: Hi Raster, Nice improvements to the theme, toolbook tabs look awesome. But the separators/frames issues still remain... separators are very subtle now. i turned down the brightness of the light bit and removed the shine. but frame is still there - i like it as it stands. it's the ame bevels etc. a the toolbar and scrollbars etc. etc. so its consistent. did you look at the xcf? all of this waqs modeled in the xcf long before i started the edc bits. at the moment i'm still running through doing the edd work for the gfx drawn so far. I saw the commits. But had to update gimp to see them as you use features just supported by 2.8. So it took me some time and you were already doing the EDC Why do you really like odd/even theme for list items? I find they are not useful as all of our lists are single-line text, then it's clear where are the items. i like it. it makes it easier to follow a line as it is different from the one above/below. Also, the item height for list items without icon is too short. When you have the icon, it's okay. Also it's disturbing to have these at different heights, see screenshot. it's 1 pixel too short. :) and yes - that is a bug in e and was there before. it should be providing icons for all items. either provide all icons or none. the list is much better now as it doesnt use so much more padding space and thus we have a more compact list. we have this problem before in bw too - it just wasnt as much a difference because bw added more spacing so percentage-wise it wasnt as much. it looks nice when the items are ALL text or ALL icon. I still don't like the odd/even. As I said, the rows are clear per see, just see the menu. Maybe a compile time option that generates a plain item without those decorations? side note: seems that the detourious theme for connman shelf gadget fits very nice with your theme! Just the green light (connected) could be your blue with the out-glow. see the xcf. connman stuff is already drawn :) it's everything else that needs doing gadget-wise. :) I saw that, just that the blue parts should be less used. It is so high contrast that you must be careful with elements such as shelf. Use it to indicate out-of-order behavior: low battery, disconnected Internet, ... If you do everything in blue, like the connman signal strength, the blue gets annoying and looses its property to call attention as one will be forced to ignore it Or patch the theme Regards, -- Gustavo On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: Hi Raster, dark theme is coming along quite well, liking it :-) two comments at this point: - Separators: could they be more mild? both in menu and dialog. Reasoning: visual noise and as they already add an extra space just because of its existence, it doesn't need to be that high-contrast to achieve its proposed effect. - Frames (widget) same as above, they add more noise than required, bw was more mild in that sense. If you look at our usage of frames in the following dialogs you can see what I mean: - Default Applications: near button box you have lots of noise with button border, separator and frames - Menu Settings: chain/sequence of frames, lots of dialogs have those. on the good feedback: I liked the comp effect on selected windows (blue highlight) and completely loved the slider knob! :-) -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- WINDOWS 8 is here. Millions of people. Your app in 30 days. Visit The Windows 8 Center at Sourceforge for all your go to resources. http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ join-generation-app-and-make-money-coding-fast/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] eina_stringshare small speed up
ok, seems nice :-)
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Jérémy Zurcher jer...@asynk.ch wrote:
well,
it took me time to come back, lots of work these days,
On Tuesday 23 October 2012 19:28, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote :
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Jérémy Zurcher jer...@asynk.ch wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to try to speed up eina_stringshare_del,
but I ended touching eina_stringshare_add first.
p0.patch: _eina_share_common_find_hash(…)
merges _eina_share_common_cmp and calls to
eina_rbtree_inline_lookup
p1.patch: eina_stringshare API
treat big strings first and avoid a call from
eina_stringshare_add
p1 breaks del accounting of population, while I don't think it will
make any difference:
--- a/eina/src/lib/eina_stringshare.c
+++ b/eina/src/lib/eina_stringshare.c
@@ -582,28 +582,17 @@ eina_stringshare_del(Eina_Stringshare *str)
return;
/* special cases */
- if (str[0] == '\0')
- slen = 0;
- else if (str[1] == '\0')
- slen = 1;
- else if (str[2] == '\0')
- slen = 2;
- else if (str[3] == '\0')
- slen = 3;
- else
- slen = 4; /* handled later */
-
- if (slen 2)
+ if (str[0] == '\0' || str[1] == '\0')
return;
- else if (slen 4)
+ else if (str[2] == '\0' || str[3] == '\0')
{
+slen = (str[2] == '\0') ? 2 : 3;
eina_share_common_population_del(stringshare_share, slen);
eina_lock_take(_mutex_small);
_eina_stringshare_small_del(str, slen);
eina_lock_release(_mutex_small);
return;
}
eina_share_common_population_del() will not run for sizes 0 and 1.
just like trunk does,
I can't break something that doet not work, hence the 3 attached patches.
there is no way to set EINA_SHARE_USAGE and EINA_SHARE_COMMON_USAGE
through configure but we can set EINA_STRINGSHARE_USAGE ... chose your patch
There are some coding style issues and going over some abstraction
such as accessing the RB tree in order to speed up.
I try my best to follow it.
going over the RB tree is the point, having to live with calls to
_eina_share_common_cmp is no good.
From the images the speed up seems quite marginal and I wonder how you
tested it. We provide the e17 benchmark that uses real-word strings,
it's better than some random synthetic test. Did you run this? could
you check with that?
I used the provided eina_bench_stringshare.c which focuses only on
eina_stringshare_add() whih is the path I was trying to speed up.
e17 bench brings undesired behaviours
- varying strings length which impact hash_superfast timing
- calls to eina_stringshare_ref and eina_stringshare_del
RB patch is not trying to find a real data best fitting algo,
but to shorten a given path which is data independant..
yes it is marginal, but still it's faster with my patch than running
lockless see the e17 benchmark numbers as you prefer them:
For `eina-trunk`:
# specimen experiment time starting time ending time
1 5138136 19947069256 19952207392
For `eina-trunk-lockless (lock calls commented)`:
# specimen experiment time starting time ending time
1 5108452 19934390545 19939498997
For `eina-RB-patched (with lock)`:
# specimen experiment time starting time ending time
1 5089091 19882278972 19887368063
will be even better with the other patch which serves long strings first,
that is real data targeting.
note: AFAIR the biggest impact of the stringshare was the locks to
make it multithread safe :-/
it is marginal, I've been told by benchmarks and gprof.
Cheers
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Re: [E-devel] dark small feedback
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:12:07 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On 28/10/2012, at 01:09, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:05:08 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: Hi Raster, Nice improvements to the theme, toolbook tabs look awesome. But the separators/frames issues still remain... separators are very subtle now. i turned down the brightness of the light bit and removed the shine. but frame is still there - i like it as it stands. it's the ame bevels etc. a the toolbar and scrollbars etc. etc. so its consistent. did you look at the xcf? all of this waqs modeled in the xcf long before i started the edc bits. at the moment i'm still running through doing the edd work for the gfx drawn so far. I saw the commits. But had to update gimp to see them as you use features just supported by 2.8. So it took me some time and you were already doing the EDC oh ok. sorry about that. the 2.8 features are a must for layer management given how many of them that xcf has... :) Why do you really like odd/even theme for list items? I find they are not useful as all of our lists are single-line text, then it's clear where are the items. i like it. it makes it easier to follow a line as it is different from the one above/below. Also, the item height for list items without icon is too short. When you have the icon, it's okay. Also it's disturbing to have these at different heights, see screenshot. it's 1 pixel too short. :) and yes - that is a bug in e and was there before. it should be providing icons for all items. either provide all icons or none. the list is much better now as it doesnt use so much more padding space and thus we have a more compact list. we have this problem before in bw too - it just wasnt as much a difference because bw added more spacing so percentage-wise it wasnt as much. it looks nice when the items are ALL text or ALL icon. I still don't like the odd/even. As I said, the rows are clear per see, just see the menu. Maybe a compile time option that generates a plain item without those decorations? i like them. :) i know cedric likes them - he explicitly asked for the odd/even thing. you can make a theme of your own thats a 99% copy opf dark.. just with your changes.. hell u can now make one using edje_pick and just provide your overrides... :) right now we don't do it but for e18 i think we'll adopt a more elm style for themes ie providing a list of preferred themes and the first one overrides those below.. and that one can contain any overrides u want to have in it. :) side note: seems that the detourious theme for connman shelf gadget fits very nice with your theme! Just the green light (connected) could be your blue with the out-glow. see the xcf. connman stuff is already drawn :) it's everything else that needs doing gadget-wise. :) I saw that, just that the blue parts should be less used. It is so high contrast that you must be careful with elements such as shelf. Use it to indicate out-of-order behavior: low battery, disconnected Internet, ... If you do everything in blue, like the connman signal strength, the blue gets annoying and looses its property to call attention as one will be forced to ignore it Or patch the theme if we want attention of a user.. we'll be animating and definitely getting their attention. blue is there as a contract color to be used asive from the greys, blacks and whites. Regards, -- Gustavo On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: Hi Raster, dark theme is coming along quite well, liking it :-) two comments at this point: - Separators: could they be more mild? both in menu and dialog. Reasoning: visual noise and as they already add an extra space just because of its existence, it doesn't need to be that high-contrast to achieve its proposed effect. - Frames (widget) same as above, they add more noise than required, bw was more mild in that sense. If you look at our usage of frames in the following dialogs you can see what I mean: - Default Applications: near button box you have lots of noise with button border, separator and frames - Menu Settings: chain/sequence of frames, lots of dialogs have those. on the good feedback: I liked the comp effect on selected windows (blue highlight) and completely loved the slider knob! :-) -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 --
Re: [E-devel] dark small feedback
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:55:34 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:12:07 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On 28/10/2012, at 01:09, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:05:08 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: snippage, not sure I left the attributions above correct. It's 3AM, need sleep. side note: seems that the detourious theme for connman shelf gadget fits very nice with your theme! Just the green light (connected) could be your blue with the out-glow. see the xcf. connman stuff is already drawn :) it's everything else that needs doing gadget-wise. :) I saw that, just that the blue parts should be less used. It is so high contrast that you must be careful with elements such as shelf. Use it to indicate out-of-order behavior: low battery, disconnected Internet, ... If you do everything in blue, like the connman signal strength, the blue gets annoying and looses its property to call attention as one will be forced to ignore it Or patch the theme if we want attention of a user.. we'll be animating and definitely getting their attention. blue is there as a contract color to be used asive from the greys, blacks and whites. Is it just me, or does dark with blue highlights look very Android? Personally I love mostly black with white text and some colour for the highlights. Just thinking that some people might say you ripped off Android. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- WINDOWS 8 is here. Millions of people. Your app in 30 days. Visit The Windows 8 Center at Sourceforge for all your go to resources. http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ join-generation-app-and-make-money-coding-fast/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] dark small feedback
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:20:24 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:55:34 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:12:07 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On 28/10/2012, at 01:09, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:05:08 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: snippage, not sure I left the attributions above correct. It's 3AM, need sleep. side note: seems that the detourious theme for connman shelf gadget fits very nice with your theme! Just the green light (connected) could be your blue with the out-glow. see the xcf. connman stuff is already drawn :) it's everything else that needs doing gadget-wise. :) I saw that, just that the blue parts should be less used. It is so high contrast that you must be careful with elements such as shelf. Use it to indicate out-of-order behavior: low battery, disconnected Internet, ... If you do everything in blue, like the connman signal strength, the blue gets annoying and looses its property to call attention as one will be forced to ignore it Or patch the theme if we want attention of a user.. we'll be animating and definitely getting their attention. blue is there as a contract color to be used asive from the greys, blacks and whites. Is it just me, or does dark with blue highlights look very Android? Personally I love mostly black with white text and some colour for the highlights. Just thinking that some people might say you ripped off Android. I'm going to go ahead and take credit for the blue highlights since blue is my favorite color. there's probably no other reason why blue was chosen. -- WINDOWS 8 is here. Millions of people. Your app in 30 days. Visit The Windows 8 Center at Sourceforge for all your go to resources. http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ join-generation-app-and-make-money-coding-fast/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Enlightenment E17 Lost Windows Fix for Ticket #1680
Here is the patch to fix the options in Screen Limits and to fix the options when you use them on dual screen. See Attached file or download from the link below. *http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7371269/lost_windows_2.1.patch* Thank You. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- Deon Thomas [ http://www.elivecd.org ] Programmer / Network Admin / Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist lost_windows_2.1.patch Description: Binary data -- WINDOWS 8 is here. Millions of people. Your app in 30 days. Visit The Windows 8 Center at Sourceforge for all your go to resources. http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ join-generation-app-and-make-money-coding-fast/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] dark small feedback
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:20:24 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:55:34 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:12:07 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On 28/10/2012, at 01:09, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:05:08 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: snippage, not sure I left the attributions above correct. It's 3AM, need sleep. side note: seems that the detourious theme for connman shelf gadget fits very nice with your theme! Just the green light (connected) could be your blue with the out-glow. see the xcf. connman stuff is already drawn :) it's everything else that needs doing gadget-wise. :) I saw that, just that the blue parts should be less used. It is so high contrast that you must be careful with elements such as shelf. Use it to indicate out-of-order behavior: low battery, disconnected Internet, ... If you do everything in blue, like the connman signal strength, the blue gets annoying and looses its property to call attention as one will be forced to ignore it Or patch the theme if we want attention of a user.. we'll be animating and definitely getting their attention. blue is there as a contract color to be used asive from the greys, blacks and whites. Is it just me, or does dark with blue highlights look very Android? Personally I love mostly black with white text and some colour for the highlights. Just thinking that some people might say you ripped off Android. blue is there because it is the most popular color in general and after trying many colors, this one ended up with the most ayes in informal testing. there's lots of data/studies that show blue to be popular and have positive connotations in general, so this tipped in in favor of blue. this also happens to be why things like android use it. why windows in general has had a lot of blue in its colors etc. - people just tend to like blue. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- WINDOWS 8 is here. Millions of people. Your app in 30 days. Visit The Windows 8 Center at Sourceforge for all your go to resources. http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ join-generation-app-and-make-money-coding-fast/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] dark small feedback
On 28/10/12 19:20, David Seikel wrote: Is it just me, or does dark with blue highlights look very Android? I think it's just you, because Android is very flat and computer like, while the dark theme is very real life and 3d, I don't think there's even a slight resemblance other than the semi-similar (not really) colour choices. That's just what I think. -- Tom. -- WINDOWS 8 is here. Millions of people. Your app in 30 days. Visit The Windows 8 Center at Sourceforge for all your go to resources. http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ join-generation-app-and-make-money-coding-fast/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [patch][e] font and size list are not enabled even though custom font is checked
Hi all, I resend mail with patch following guides. (thanks to Sanjeev BA) * Bug In font settings, I checked Enable Custom Font Classes and set a font and size. then, when I enter font settings again, font and size list are disabled. * Causes cfdata-cur_enabled is always 0 in _basic_create_widgets(). *Solutions set cfdata-cur_enabled as 1 in _basic_init_data_fill(). Thanks, Hyojin Kim e_int_config_fonts.patch Description: Binary data -- The Windows 8 Center - In partnership with Sourceforge Your idea - your app - 30 days. Get started! http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ what-html-developers-need-to-know-about-coding-windows-8-metro-style-apps/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [patch][e] font and size list are not enabled even though custom font is checked
Hi, I attached a wrong patch in previous mail. Please check new attached patch. Sorry for making you confuse. Hyojin Kim 2012/10/29 Hyojin Kim hyojina@gmail.com Hi all, I resend mail with patch following guides. (thanks to Sanjeev BA) * Bug In font settings, I checked Enable Custom Font Classes and set a font and size. then, when I enter font settings again, font and size list are disabled. * Causes cfdata-cur_enabled is always 0 in _basic_create_widgets(). *Solutions set cfdata-cur_enabled as 1 in _basic_init_data_fill(). Thanks, Hyojin Kim e_int_config_fonts_new.patch Description: Binary data -- The Windows 8 Center - In partnership with Sourceforge Your idea - your app - 30 days. Get started! http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ what-html-developers-need-to-know-about-coding-windows-8-metro-style-apps/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] dark small feedback
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com wrote: On 28/10/12 19:20, David Seikel wrote: Is it just me, or does dark with blue highlights look very Android? I think it's just you, because Android is very flat and computer like, while the dark theme is very real life and 3d, I don't think there's even a slight resemblance other than the semi-similar (not really) colour choices. That's just what I think. -- Tom. I don't think it's just him, because android uses a similar tone of blue (at least on the devices I know) and very similar blue accent-lines under some items as well as blue shades when moving screens and such. But all in all, I don't see a too strong resemblance -- as you said, android is very flat and not at all accentuated, also the use of the blue accents is rather inconsistent and not at all stringent in the design. I don't see that this could lead to mix-ups, except maybe if you're an apple lawyer :) -- thomasg -- The Windows 8 Center - In partnership with Sourceforge Your idea - your app - 30 days. Get started! http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ what-html-developers-need-to-know-about-coding-windows-8-metro-style-apps/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
