Re: [E-devel] Contributing

2018-09-03 Thread Diego Loiola
Hermet,

I'll take a look at docs you linked and,thanks.

Vincent,
A document viewer sounds good to me. How can I help you?


regards,

Diego Loiola


Em seg, 3 de set de 2018 às 07:04, Vincent Torri 
escreveu:

> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:58 AM Hermet Park  wrote:
> >
> > You can start with writing a basic app and learn from it,
> > Refer documentation, fix typos and send patch, report bugs while writing
> a
> > app.
> > see tutorial:
> https://www.enlightenment.org/develop/legacy/tutorial/start
> > see https://phab.enlightenment.org/
> > https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/devs/arcanist-guide
> >
> > elementary_test is one of good sample materials for jumping in efl ui,
> how
> > to write efl ui app.
> > see efl repostory, efl/src/bin/elementary
> >
> > Plus, there are more efl projects
> > you may find any interest project and join there.
> > https://git.enlightenment.org/
>
> you can also help me for Etui (multi-doc viewer like evince or okular,
> hosted on github) :-)
>
> Vincent
>
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:23 AM Diego Loiola  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone!
> > >
> > > I've installed  Enlightenment a couple of days ago and found an
> amazing and
> > > promising project. It is smooth, beatiful, has some features which
> others
> > > DEs don't , and i'ts even lighter than XFCE. As I see a great
> pontential,
> > > though it has some problems, I would like to help its evolving if it's
> > > possible. I'm writing a list of the best features and others to improve
> > > (documentation, themes, etc...). I'm designer and an newbie
> programmer, so
> > > I can translate to pt-br, draw, make usability tests, and so on.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Diego Loiola
> > >
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Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-03 Thread Vincent Torri
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:59 AM Al Poole  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I agree with you there Marcel. It's an awful lot of work with zero
> guaranteed improvement

and a lot of time not spent on development nor fixing bugs

Vincent

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Re: [E-devel] Contributing

2018-09-03 Thread Vincent Torri
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:58 AM Hermet Park  wrote:
>
> You can start with writing a basic app and learn from it,
> Refer documentation, fix typos and send patch, report bugs while writing a
> app.
> see tutorial: https://www.enlightenment.org/develop/legacy/tutorial/start
> see https://phab.enlightenment.org/
> https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/devs/arcanist-guide
>
> elementary_test is one of good sample materials for jumping in efl ui, how
> to write efl ui app.
> see efl repostory, efl/src/bin/elementary
>
> Plus, there are more efl projects
> you may find any interest project and join there.
> https://git.enlightenment.org/

you can also help me for Etui (multi-doc viewer like evince or okular,
hosted on github) :-)

Vincent

>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:23 AM Diego Loiola  wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > I've installed  Enlightenment a couple of days ago and found an amazing and
> > promising project. It is smooth, beatiful, has some features which others
> > DEs don't , and i'ts even lighter than XFCE. As I see a great pontential,
> > though it has some problems, I would like to help its evolving if it's
> > possible. I'm writing a list of the best features and others to improve
> > (documentation, themes, etc...). I'm designer and an newbie programmer, so
> > I can translate to pt-br, draw, make usability tests, and so on.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Diego Loiola
> >
> > --
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Re: [E-devel] Contributing

2018-09-03 Thread Hermet Park
You can start with writing a basic app and learn from it,
Refer documentation, fix typos and send patch, report bugs while writing a
app.
see tutorial: https://www.enlightenment.org/develop/legacy/tutorial/start
see https://phab.enlightenment.org/
https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/devs/arcanist-guide

elementary_test is one of good sample materials for jumping in efl ui, how
to write efl ui app.
see efl repostory, efl/src/bin/elementary

Plus, there are more efl projects
you may find any interest project and join there.
https://git.enlightenment.org/


On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:23 AM Diego Loiola  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I've installed  Enlightenment a couple of days ago and found an amazing and
> promising project. It is smooth, beatiful, has some features which others
> DEs don't , and i'ts even lighter than XFCE. As I see a great pontential,
> though it has some problems, I would like to help its evolving if it's
> possible. I'm writing a list of the best features and others to improve
> (documentation, themes, etc...). I'm designer and an newbie programmer, so
> I can translate to pt-br, draw, make usability tests, and so on.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Diego Loiola
>
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Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-03 Thread Al Poole
Hello,

I agree with you there Marcel. It's an awful lot of work with zero
guaranteed improvement.

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Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-03 Thread Marcel Hollerbach

Hello,

On 8/30/18 10:41 AM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:

Hello.

On 08/28/2018 05:08 PM, Stephen Houston wrote:

Hello,

Just checking in here on the status of this - Does there need to be a
slowvote or does it seem that everyone is on board here or do people
disagree and want to voice why?


I have not replied to this so far (a longer reply to Mike's mail will
come in a bit).

There can be seen some support in this thread, but I honestly think we
are missing opinions from many other active people before we should go
further here. In particular I would like to hear opinions from hermet,
bu5hman, netstar, q66, raster, vtorri, xavi, chris, derek, yohoho, beber
  and more I forgot.



I am completely in favor of going to a new platform. However, i am a bit 
skeptical what would be expected. In most IRC converstations it sounded 
like the biggest problem was the tooling and the not obvious task stuff.


But in the end we end up with tooling where you need to access your 
browser, find the correct branch etc. then create a PR, is that obvious 
to everyone ?


Also, a lot of complains where into the direction of missing CI stuff in 
phab or in general bad CI integration, with gitlab this is not really 
better. If we dont include or hookup a few buildplaces, nothing gets 
really better.


And in the end, our bugtracker has been a incredible mess until some 
cleanup action took place. If we don't do this again and again, things 
will likely not get better at all.


There have been a long long list of projects that have migrated to 
gitlab. However, others are also managing to use phab (haskell, kde, 
freebsd, blender). What I want to say with this is, phabricator is not 
that bad, others are also managing to work with it :)


tldr: We maintained and handled our phab instance bad, if we do the same 
with gitlab, nothing will really change IMO.




A slowvote that would ask for general acceptance of a move to gitlab
(not on all the details) might be a good step to understand if the
people not commented yet are in the yes, no or don't care camp.

More detailed comments on the proposal in a separate mail.

regards
Stefan Schmidt


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