Re: [E-devel] e16 version numbering

2009-03-21 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
10 years? Already? :( i'll be 30 next month.
I think this switch is fine Kim.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Kim Woelders k...@woelders.dk wrote:

 Hello,

 I think by now it has been well established that enlightenment is e17, and
 e16 is, well, e16.
 The e16 version numbers are somewhat ridiculous (last release was
 e16-0.16.8.15), at least when taken out of context.
 Unless there are objections I'd like to release the next version as
 e16-1.0.0.
 This also seems to me to be an appropriate way to celebrate that e16 has
 been around for somewhere near 10 years :)

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Re: [E-devel] Being social...

2009-03-18 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
 Damn, geek are supposed to be social today ! What a strange world :-)

 Hi Cedric,
We can be social among ourselves. :)
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Re: [E-devel] Release schedule

2009-01-29 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote:


 I propose February 14th. Its close, realistic, and might dull the
 loneliness of Valentines Day. :)

 -Toma.




Ahaha, indeed.

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Re: [E-devel] a guide request about windows transition effects

2009-01-17 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
No Vincent says you can use the OpenGL hardware acceleration for *2d*.

Evas doesn't do 3D. Evas doesn't have the z coordinate.  We can however fake
3D with perspective and we need a Transformation Matrix for
rotation/scale/translation.

In your Evas.h look for evas_transform_*.  But they're not implemented at
the moment. I hope someone is working on these.

After we have the Transformation Matrix for Evas Objects, we'll need a 3D
Library, a simple one with a Perspective Matrix in its core would suffice.






On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Oguz Yarimtepe comp@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 18:10 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote:
  no possible 3d (for now ?). We can use open gl hardware acceleration
  for
  the 2d.

 So if i enabled the gl support while compiling EFL and install required
 libraries may i have 3D abilities while using EFL? Dont forget that i am
 using DirectFB.





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Re: [E-devel] sample program problem

2009-01-12 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Hey Oguz, Eclipse CDT might help.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Nicolas Aguirre
aguirre.nico...@gmail.comwrote:

 2009/1/12 Oguz Yarimtepe comp@gmail.com:
  Hi,
 
  I have attached the sample program that is mentioned at edjebook.pdf.
  Here is what i get:
 
  $ gcc  `pkg-config --cflags --libs ecore-evas evas ecore edje`
  example.c -o example
  example.c: In function 'main':
  example.c:34: warning: passing argument 2 of
  'edje_object_size_min_get' from incompatible pointer type
  example.c:34: warning: passing argument 3 of
  'edje_object_size_min_get' from incompatible pointer type
 
  $ ./example
  1
  ok
  0.00 0.00
 
  After that point i just see a tiny elips windows without anything. If
  i enlarge it i can see that the title set but i don't see the edj file
  view there. What is wrong? I can see the edj file if i open it
  edje_viewer.
 
  Thanx


 You are using min edje size properties if test group to resize your
 main window, so you must have min properties in your edje file, if
 not, I suggest you to give fixed values for you window.

 ee = ecore_evas_software_x11_new(NULL, 0, 0, 0, 800,600); // line 20
 ...
 evas_object_resize(edje, 800, 600); //line 37
 evas_object_show(edje); //line 38
 ecore_evas_resize(ee, 800, 600); //line 39

 This example should resize you window with 800x600 geometry




 otherwise don't change code and add this to you edc file.
 group
 {
name: test
min: 800 600;
 ...
 }


 .eet extension is deprecated for edje file, you should use .edj
 extension for binaries.


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Re: [E-devel] ewww: browser test on top of efl-webkit

2008-12-21 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Woww! Finally we have HTML power! And Webkit is a very good choice!


On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good job! :)

 Unfortunate name... unless your going for the sense of humor market.
 In that case, well done. :)

 Theme looks good for now. Ill fix up the shadows of those left and
 right arrows sometime soon so its a little more unison. Also, if you
 need bigger icons, the sources for them all are in THEMES/b_and_w/

 Toma

 2008/12/21 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi:
  Hello guys,
 
  Since INdT guys released EFL-Webkit port some days ago some hacks
  started to appear to test it. Nicolas (captainigloo) did some tests in
  order to evaluate using it in enna, Raoul started a cool test
  application called ewww:
 
 svn co http://dev.calaos.fr/calaos-svn/ewww
 
  I did a checkout of this code and created my own git so I keep a
  patchset on top of it easily:
 
git clone git://git.profusion.mobi/users/gustavo/ewww.git
 
  I diverged a bit with regard to theme, going a more black  white
  approach and the layout is towards google chrome:
  http://staff.get-e.org/~barbieri/ewww.pnghttp://staff.get-e.org/%7Ebarbieri/ewww.png
   (scrollbars are just
  indicators and are hidden automatically after 1 second, that's why
  there are none in the screenshot).
 
  while doing this I found some problems that I already reported to
 kenneth:
 
   - race conditions while painting, efl-webkit should do a lock around
  image data while it renders, otherwise we get old results on the
  screen, since we have no control over evas buffers, we should just do
  these operations when we hold a lock from main thread (possible
  request it using an idler, pipe...);
   - valgrind complains a bit.
   - need absolute scroll, or move, so I can implement Home and End;
   - filter keyboard events, possible it's just return bool in
  keyPressEvent? problem is that if I press down in a form I don't want
  my scrollview to scroll.
   - object deletion while page is loading must be handled properly. if
  you use ewww to open a page and close the window, it segfaults.
   - copy  paste, at least text. (low priority)
   - very minor: ewk_webview_object_load_url() should take a const char *
   - export history navigation somehow, since it exports _back(),
  _forward()... I want to have access to list and then disable/enable
  buttons.
   - seems that gmail problem is related to frames, it does not work
  with javadoc/epydoc, which are really simple html, but uses frames.
   - some way to query for metadata, to present rss link, alternate
  css, if it is using cryptography.
 
 
  My next steps on the interface is to provide proper smart objects for
  the view+scroll and then the tab chrome (the current ui can be thought
  as a tab). With that I plan to write some basic tabs and then explore
  with Google Chrome's idea of multiple process, since I'll not do any
  fancy shared memory work, I just plan to reparent
  ecore_evas_software_x11 on top of my other canvas, that might do for
  now.
 
  If you check the code, you see we still lack lots of resources of a
  real browser, but hey! it was a one day work!
 
 
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[E-devel] esmart TextArea

2008-12-05 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone is working on an Esmart TextArea that accepts
keyboard and mouse input?

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Re: [E-devel] evas_smart_class_new usage

2008-11-12 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Hi Tim,
I've been doing some E Smart work lately and I find E's (DR17) code very
helpful. For example e_editable.c .
Hope it helps.




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 Hi, could anybody enlighten me on how to properly use
 evas_smart_class_new?
 A week ago I send in a patch for Rage which replaced evas_smart_new
 calls. I simply created an evas_smart_class with the fields filled so
 that it just copies the call to evas_smart_new. Then I used
 evas_smart_class_new instead of evas_smart_new. The code didn't work at
 first, but then I simply made my evas_smart_class static and it worked
 fine on revision 37448.
 I updated E yesterday and my simple solution stopped working, giving me
 the same bug I encountered before I declared the evas_smart_classes in
 my patch as static. So I guess I must have misunderstood how
 evas_smart_class_new is supposed to be used. Can anybody give me some
 hints as to what I have to consider here?
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[E-devel] EFL xembed implementation

2008-10-28 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Hey guys,
Is it possible to create an Xembed implementation in EFL? Would ecore hide
some of the nasty X code in the process?
Where should one start?
My purpose is to embed Flash Player 10 into and E application.
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[E-devel] editable evas textblock

2008-09-17 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
hey guys,
i cannot find a way to create an editable evas textblock.
Expected to find something like this:
evas_object_textblock_set_editable(tblock, 1);

Am i blind? Or do we need to create the textblock with event listeners and
fill the block in each stroke?



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Re: [E-devel] editable evas textblock

2008-09-17 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Thanks for tips Gustavo,

I looked at ewl_text_text_insert_private(), it's called on key down, but I
couldn't quite make the connection between this and evas functions.  Maybe
try that later, but I get the idea.
I will experiment with evas_textblock_cursor_text_append, and follow ewl's
ways and tricks here and there. My purpose is just to understand
evas and smartobjects for now, not to reinvent the wheel :))

thanks again



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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Veli Ogla Sungutay
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hey guys,
  i cannot find a way to create an editable evas textblock.
  Expected to find something like this:
  evas_object_textblock_set_editable(tblock, 1);
 
  Am i blind? Or do we need to create the textblock with event listeners
 and
  fill the block in each stroke?

 that's it. Evas, albeit easy to use, is meant as a low level library.
 It has no such concept as editable stuff, but it have enough API to
 let you write such.

 You can check how ETK and EWL did it. If you want a simple (one line)
 you can look at e17 code. If you're writing an Evas/Edje only
 application, you can still mix ETK and EWL with their embedded
 widgets, that returns Evas_Object that you can use.

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[E-devel] EWL Themes with Edje

2008-08-29 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
hey all
Is there any documentation samples on theming EWL applications?  I got the
latest svn tree and I think there is a start with
doc/tutorials/themeing.dox
I'm afraid that's about it.

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[E-devel] ewl_test segfaults

2008-08-29 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
hello again, yes this is my E night :)
i just compiled EFL svn smoothly. But ewl_test segfaults. ewl_simple_test
and ewl_embed_test works.
I had my 2 month old e cvs in /usr/local replaced by the new svn
compilation.

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Re: [E-devel] EWL Themes with Edje

2008-08-29 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
thanks guys I'll try. by the way I just saw the ewl_embed_test. Veri
interesting.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Veli Ogla Sungutay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 thanks guys I'll try. by the way I just saw the ewl_embed_test. Veri
 interesting.


 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Jaime Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 You can also enable Print theme signals and Print theme keys in
 ewl_config for some more information.


 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Jorge Mariani [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 You should decompile the default.edj that comes with EWL. It's a start.

 On Aug 29, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Veli Ogla Sungutay wrote:

  hey all
  Is there any documentation samples on theming EWL applications?  I
  got the
  latest svn tree and I think there is a start with
  doc/tutorials/themeing.dox
  I'm afraid that's about it.
 
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Re: [E-devel] exchange library is growing

2008-08-22 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
nicely done! Thanks

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Massimiliano Calamelli 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all, i'm very happy to say that exchange library is now a little usable.
 For those who don't know what is exchange, this library is the client
 side of exchange.enlightenment.org , providing a set of API to
 interact with the server.

 This library now provide:
 * a CLI interface (exchange_cli), for shell scripting
 * a set of API, for new applications

 Here's a cutpaste for the CLI:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ exchange_cli
 Usage:
  exchange_cli -local_theme_name theme file
  exchange_cli -local_theme_author theme file
  exchange_cli -local_theme_version theme file
  exchange_cli -local_theme_license theme file
  exchange_cli -local_theme_check_update theme file
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_id theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_author theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_license theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_version theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_description theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_url theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_thumbmnail theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_screenshot theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_user_id theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_created_at theme name
  exchange_cli -remote_theme_updated_at theme name
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

 Here's a cutpaste for the API:

 // startup/shutdown functions
 EAPI int  exchange_init(void);
 EAPI int  exchange_shutdown(void);

 // local themes functions
 EAPI char *exchange_local_theme_name_get(const char *file);
 EAPI char *exchange_local_theme_author_get(const char *file);
 EAPI char *exchange_local_theme_license_get(const char *file);
 EAPI char *exchange_local_theme_version_get(const char *file);
 EAPI int  exchange_local_theme_check_update(const char *file);

 // remote themes functions
 EAPI int  exchange_remote_theme_id_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_author_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_license_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_version_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_description_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_url_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_thumbnail_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_screenshot_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI int  exchange_remote_theme_user_id_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_created_get(const char *theme_name);
 EAPI char *exchange_remote_theme_updated_get(const char *theme_name);

 I know that there's a lot of work that must be done to complete the
 library, but it is usable, uses autofoo, builds without error and
 seems (my tests) don't have leaks or segv.
 Atm the best use is to check for updates for a theme by the CLI (real
 example):

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ exchange_cli -remote_theme_version Cerium
 Theme: Cerium, version: 1.1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ exchange_cli -local_theme_version 
 ~/.e/e/themes/cerium.edj
 Theme: /home/massi/.e/e/themes/cerium.edj, version: 1.0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ exchange_cli -local_theme_check_update
 ~/.e/e/themes/cerium.edj
 Theme: /home/massi/.e/e/themes/cerium.edj, update available: YES!

 Next steps:
 * creating a new function that returns a list of all data related to
 remote theme
 * complete, for local theme, same work on remote theme (get all data
 one by one / list)
 * add Doxy
 * then follow the guidelines indicated in a thread on e-devel

 The code can be found here:
 http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary

 Here's the feed, to get updates (i'll mail on lists ony for VERY big
 changes):
 RSS - http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=rss
 ATOM - http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=atom

 Feel free to test, use and abuse, and maybe merge in proto... :)

 Ciao

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Re: [E-devel] cvs-svn...

2008-08-17 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Thanks raster!!

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:47 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
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 On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:13:37 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
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 and the move is done:

 http://svn.enlightenment.org/

 time to check out your trees again. i've moved things around a bit - gone is
 the e17 dir. e16 still has one. we should clean out cruft (projects not
 maintained, not building or not usable or that make any sense) and either put
 them in OLD or BROKEN.

 is underway. it may take a few hours... i'll mail when done and confirmed.
 unfortunately it has ended up being a little tricky to import... but it's on
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Re: [E-devel] moving things along - cvs - svn and bugs (bugzilla-trac)

2008-08-04 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
great news!

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:19 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ok.

 first - i know there will be unhappiness and disagreements. but i've been
 thinking and it's time to stop the status-quo here. some people will be
 pissed
 off, some will just be mildly unhappy, some not care, some be happy and
 some
 overjoyed. i ask to leave flamethrowers at the door.

 since this has been argued back and forth before and everyone has said
 their
 piece... it's nothing new.

 1. we have had cvs for a long time - something in the region of a decade of
 using cvs... we already have an svn server - and i' have brought it up to
 working order: http://svn.enlightenment.org ... it was originally
 installed as
 a dependency for trac - and has been lurking, unused.

 i have added full dev access (there is a devs dir in svn - same devs copied
 from cvs, with same ssh keys and thus same access as same usernames). all
 existing devs have access. anonsvn is also working. it also sends mails to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on commits with diffs.

 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-svn

 to subscribe etc.

 so this is up. it's ready to use - let's use it. using svn instead of cvs
 is
 childs play. i won't go into it. why not git? compromise and git is very
 different. all this needs now is:

 a. suspend of cvs activity.
 b. import of existing cvs tree(s) and maybe a re-org in the process, but
 KEEP
 HSITORY. i intend to remove the e17 dir and everything inside of it,
 flatten
 out to:
 e17/apps/ - apps/
 e17/docs/ - docs/
 e17/libs/ - libs/
 e17/proto/ - proto/
 e17/test/ - test/

 we already have:
 devs/ - devs/

 and i want to put in other cvs modules:
 misc/ - misc/
 eterm/ - old/eterm/
 web/www - www/
 e16/ - old/e16/
 e_modules/ - apps/e_modules

 that's an initial import of our existing cvs modules/trees. from there on
 it's
 all svn. things can be moved and so on around. (and svn supports
 rename/mv).

 c. continue development from there.

 i hope to get this done in the next few weeks (in august).

 and

 2. trac (bugzilla alternative). this integrates with svn - ticket numbers
 in
 log commits will have links back to their tickets in trac. it even allows
 wiki
 formatting in svn logs. it's simpler than bugzilla and imho easier to use,
 but
 has enough to work with. it support multiple sub-projects (already several
 in
 trac) and milestones and releases. it does the job. i don't want to import
 existing bugzilla bug items... so keep bugzilla for the old stuff, but
 start
 using trac for new feature requests, bug reports etc. i know i intend to
 anyway. it's just more usable (imho). it's integration with trac's wiki and
 svn
 are great. it's overall a good tool. trac is at:

 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e

 again. this won't be popular with everyone - but i think it's for the best.
 we've got too many dangling things to do and things put off - so these
 are 2
 steps of many to get things organised. trac is up and ready now, so simply
 once
 svn is moved. start using it.

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Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small usage
examples would do.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it
 should have.
 My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to
 chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site

 *1.   Create links to all the software ( wiki, bug tracker, forums,
 source browser etc)*

 *2.   Make the website more user oriented. A lot of the content can be
 moved to the wiki. We need the website to be a lot more static. *

 *3.   Separate developer sections from user.*

 *4.   Create a feature list page in order to make E more of a product
 that we're trying to talk about*

 *5.   weekly or biweekly articles*

 *a.   We will have a submission article system in which we will stack
 up
 articles and release one a week regarding E.  *

 *b.  This will allow users who aren't good at coding or able to help in
 that way to keep track of what's happening and write articles regarding the
 progress.*

 *c.   This will also help people who are writing applications be able
 to
 follow development and get inspiration from other application developers.*

 *d.  Or just content such as user guides for different things*

 *6.Translations*

 *a.   Allow people to have the website content translated into multiple
 languages.*

 *7.   One login to rule them all*

 *a.   Having 10 different logins for all the different software isn't
 working it would be really nice to see a lot of them consolidated into
 a
 login api such as openid or google accounts.*
 All in all the website needs to me more of a pamphlet than a handbook for
 everything under the sun.

 *Note* Please do not start on any designs That will come later and we
 have plans for making prizes for it. Stay tuned.
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Re: [E-devel] EFL and Webkit

2008-03-09 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080303-creating-rich-internet-applications-on-linux-with-webkit.html
Hmm


On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 6:23 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:12:55 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:

 
Carsten wrote:
 
   ...  what would be the right way would be to allow new extended
   objects (smart objects) to set rendering calls - the same way
   evas internal objects do, and then do their own rendering.
   breaking this out to a nice public api would be really nice and
   allow for objects built on a non-stateful (immediate mode)
   rendering model to exist and be efficient without HAVING to render
   to a buffer. this would mean breaking out the engine drawing calls
   and surface creation/destruction etc. into evas api.
 
Yeah, would be good to have. But just getting render-pre/post
  funcs for smarts, and implementing 'native surfaces' would be very
  desirable as well, since buffered drawing is *very* useful for many
  things. It's also easier to do, and needed in order to have engine-
  specific sub-canvases.

 yup. i agree. native surface are important in the long run.

Either way, this would allow for engine-specific extensions
  for evas.. wrapping things adequately would allow for things like
  say an evas3D lib if really desired.

 sure. 3d INSIDE a 3d object i can deal with in evas :)

I have a question for you on this though: I imagined having
  'native surface' image obj api given in each of the engine headers,
  but you added a generic evas api for it.. What exactly do you have
  in mind here? eg. say with gl-textures?

 literally evas exposing the engine drawing routines for that engine -
 generalised tho. gl i would expose as a generic api from a evas-3d lib on
 top
 of a native surface, but it would just abstrait to either software mesa or
 direct hardware opengl, so it'd work in a software canvas, just slowly.

There must be plenty of gl addicts out there who would love
  to start doing their rtt 3D stuff with a gl-x11-evas. :)
 
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