Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hi Atton,

Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX
to create graphically beautiful presentations.

I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any
editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this
the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes.

Please update us on the progress and when you need help in testing, I'm
available for testing it :).

Best regards,
Michael

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Atton,

 Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
 interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for
 LaTeX
 to create graphically beautiful presentations.

 I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in
 any
 editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is
 this
 the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes.



 Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
 presentations?
 With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their
 presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on
 the presentation itself?

problem is that presentation editor is so big topic that it will do as
another project, actually it's much more complex than this project is
supposed to be.

that said, having such a simple language is very easy to generate and
load from files.

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Chady Kassouf
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Atton,

 Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
 interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for
 LaTeX
 to create graphically beautiful presentations.

 I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in
 any
 editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is
 this
 the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes.



Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
presentations?
With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their
presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on
the presentation itself?


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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Atton Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hey hey :)

 I ll work with my mentors (Cedric BAIL and  Sthithaprajna Garapaty
 ) on a presentation tools using the efl during the Gsoc. I write this
 email to present you the project and tell you how we plan to do this
 apps. Currently I m busy with the university, I ll start working on the
 project in 2 weeks and I ll update the wiki.

 You can find the gsoc application on the wiki:
 http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Soc2008/Presentation_tools

 Currently we plan to implement :
 - a basic page format: header / body / foot
 - an item list
 - some basics property: bold, underline ...
 - include an image, an .edj
 Next features as tables will be implement when edje will support
 layouts.

probably just after GSoC is over :-)

 then the viewer will have some cool features with beautifuls effects as
 a list of slides, transitions between the slides...

cool, try to make them as edje as much as possible, so we can change them later.


 About the file which describes the presentation, we plan to use the same
 syntax as edje. So we can use the source code of edje_cc as a base for
 the compiler and maintain the app will be more easy for the community.

Ok, having something like that is good. However I'd make EET the file
format, not text. Then we can use another tool to generate and load it
more easily. And it can pack images and fonts as well.

Ah, something that would be good is to have the file as
edje-compatible, then we could just add every resource as edje
(images, fonts) and merge edjes. Then you just add your own
description using another namespace. Your presentation tool would
then load this presentation descriptor and display required edje
groups.

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hi Chady,

* [23.05.08 09:49]:
 Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
 presentations?
Everybody somewhen at some time? :)

 With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their
 presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on
 the presentation itself?
Both should be possible. I just mentioned 'my way' to ensure it is not
forgotten about and some GUI is *necessary* for creating presentations in the
end - we should let the user decide what he wants...

Best regards,
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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Atton Jonathan
On Fri, 23 May 2008 09:13:05 +0200
Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi Atton,
 
 Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
 interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot
 for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations.
 
 I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input
 file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility,
 like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI
 except for creating schemes.

The input file with will be a simple ascii file, and a parser will
compile the file into an eet file. So yes you ll can write the
presentation with a simple editor.

 
 Please update us on the progress and when you need help in testing,
 I'm available for testing it :).

oki :)
 
 Best regards,
 Michael
 
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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Atton Jonathan
On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:25 +0300
Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Atton,
 
  Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
  interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot
  for LaTeX
  to create graphically beautiful presentations.
 
  I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input
  file in any
  editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like
  LaTeX. Is this
  the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating
  schemes.
 
 
 
 Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
 presentations?
 With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating
 their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in
 concentrating on the presentation itself?
 
 

We can create a front end for an ascii presentation file, this is not a
problem I guess. Currently we want something easy to use and create,
write a front end add a lot of job/problems.

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread Atton Jonathan
On Fri, 23 May 2008 04:54:12 -0300
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Chady Kassouf
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  Hi Atton,
 
  Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm
  very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than
  powerdot for LaTeX
  to create graphically beautiful presentations.
 
  I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input
  file in any
  editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like
  LaTeX. Is this
  the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating
  schemes.
 
 
 
  Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in
  creating presentations?
  With that in mind, would that person be really interested in
  creating their presentation in a text file or are they more
  interested in concentrating on the presentation itself?
 
 problem is that presentation editor is so big topic that it will do as
 another project, actually it's much more complex than this project is
 supposed to be.
 
 that said, having such a simple language is very easy to generate and
 load from files.
 

next times i ll read all the emails before responding :)

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Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-23 Thread thomasg
What I'd like to have would be an real simple solution, in the best case
human-readable plain-text (no TeX or html code) and letting the presenter
render it to make it nice and shiny. Why not use something like Textile[1]
or similar solutions [2] [3]?
Additional just use edje-templates to define the style.
Would be extremely easy for the user, look nice and consistent, and not such
a giant waste of time like Powerpoint, OOImpress, LaTeX and so on.
And you can concentrate on the content only, not on irrelevant side work.

Looking forward what you'll bring us.


[1] http://textile.thresholdstate.com/
[2] http://web-content-viewer.org/description.txt (input)
[3] http://web-content-viewer.org/description.html (output)

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Atton Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:25 +0300
 Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi Atton,
  
   Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very
   interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot
   for LaTeX
   to create graphically beautiful presentations.
  
   I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input
   file in any
   editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like
   LaTeX. Is this
   the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating
   schemes.
  
 
 
  Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating
  presentations?
  With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating
  their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in
  concentrating on the presentation itself?
 
 

 We can create a front end for an ascii presentation file, this is not a
 problem I guess. Currently we want something easy to use and create,
 write a front end add a lot of job/problems.

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[E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools

2008-05-22 Thread Atton Jonathan
hey hey :)

I ll work with my mentors (Cedric BAIL and  Sthithaprajna Garapaty
) on a presentation tools using the efl during the Gsoc. I write this
email to present you the project and tell you how we plan to do this
apps. Currently I m busy with the university, I ll start working on the
project in 2 weeks and I ll update the wiki.

You can find the gsoc application on the wiki:
http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Soc2008/Presentation_tools

Currently we plan to implement :
- a basic page format: header / body / foot
- an item list
- some basics property: bold, underline ...
- include an image, an .edj
Next features as tables will be implement when edje will support
layouts.

then the viewer will have some cool features with beautifuls effects as
a list of slides, transitions between the slides...

About the file which describes the presentation, we plan to use the same
syntax as edje. So we can use the source code of edje_cc as a base for
the compiler and maintain the app will be more easy for the community.


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