Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Please update us on the progress and when you need help in testing, I'm available for testing it :). Best regards, Michael - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? problem is that presentation editor is so big topic that it will do as another project, actually it's much more complex than this project is supposed to be. that said, having such a simple language is very easy to generate and load from files. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? -- Chady 'Leviathan' Kassouf http://chady.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Atton Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey hey :) I ll work with my mentors (Cedric BAIL and Sthithaprajna Garapaty ) on a presentation tools using the efl during the Gsoc. I write this email to present you the project and tell you how we plan to do this apps. Currently I m busy with the university, I ll start working on the project in 2 weeks and I ll update the wiki. You can find the gsoc application on the wiki: http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Soc2008/Presentation_tools Currently we plan to implement : - a basic page format: header / body / foot - an item list - some basics property: bold, underline ... - include an image, an .edj Next features as tables will be implement when edje will support layouts. probably just after GSoC is over :-) then the viewer will have some cool features with beautifuls effects as a list of slides, transitions between the slides... cool, try to make them as edje as much as possible, so we can change them later. About the file which describes the presentation, we plan to use the same syntax as edje. So we can use the source code of edje_cc as a base for the compiler and maintain the app will be more easy for the community. Ok, having something like that is good. However I'd make EET the file format, not text. Then we can use another tool to generate and load it more easily. And it can pack images and fonts as well. Ah, something that would be good is to have the file as edje-compatible, then we could just add every resource as edje (images, fonts) and merge edjes. Then you just add your own description using another namespace. Your presentation tool would then load this presentation descriptor and display required edje groups. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
Hi Chady, * [23.05.08 09:49]: Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? Everybody somewhen at some time? :) With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? Both should be possible. I just mentioned 'my way' to ensure it is not forgotten about and some GUI is *necessary* for creating presentations in the end - we should let the user decide what he wants... Best regards, Michael - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, 23 May 2008 09:13:05 +0200 Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. The input file with will be a simple ascii file, and a parser will compile the file into an eet file. So yes you ll can write the presentation with a simple editor. Please update us on the progress and when you need help in testing, I'm available for testing it :). oki :) Best regards, Michael - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:25 +0300 Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? We can create a front end for an ascii presentation file, this is not a problem I guess. Currently we want something easy to use and create, write a front end add a lot of job/problems. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
On Fri, 23 May 2008 04:54:12 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? problem is that presentation editor is so big topic that it will do as another project, actually it's much more complex than this project is supposed to be. that said, having such a simple language is very easy to generate and load from files. next times i ll read all the emails before responding :) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
What I'd like to have would be an real simple solution, in the best case human-readable plain-text (no TeX or html code) and letting the presenter render it to make it nice and shiny. Why not use something like Textile[1] or similar solutions [2] [3]? Additional just use edje-templates to define the style. Would be extremely easy for the user, look nice and consistent, and not such a giant waste of time like Powerpoint, OOImpress, LaTeX and so on. And you can concentrate on the content only, not on irrelevant side work. Looking forward what you'll bring us. [1] http://textile.thresholdstate.com/ [2] http://web-content-viewer.org/description.txt (input) [3] http://web-content-viewer.org/description.html (output) On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Atton Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:25 +0300 Chady Kassouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Atton, Thanks for your mail and thanks for working on the project. I'm very interested in it because it may be an easier solution than powerdot for LaTeX to create graphically beautiful presentations. I just wanted to ensure that one can write the presentation input file in any editor and compile it with a simple commandline-utility, like LaTeX. Is this the case? I'm not really interested in a GUI except for creating schemes. Thinking of the target audience, who is really interested in creating presentations? With that in mind, would that person be really interested in creating their presentation in a text file or are they more interested in concentrating on the presentation itself? We can create a front end for an ascii presentation file, this is not a problem I guess. Currently we want something easy to use and create, write a front end add a lot of job/problems. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [Gsoc] the presentation tools
hey hey :) I ll work with my mentors (Cedric BAIL and Sthithaprajna Garapaty ) on a presentation tools using the efl during the Gsoc. I write this email to present you the project and tell you how we plan to do this apps. Currently I m busy with the university, I ll start working on the project in 2 weeks and I ll update the wiki. You can find the gsoc application on the wiki: http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Soc2008/Presentation_tools Currently we plan to implement : - a basic page format: header / body / foot - an item list - some basics property: bold, underline ... - include an image, an .edj Next features as tables will be implement when edje will support layouts. then the viewer will have some cool features with beautifuls effects as a list of slides, transitions between the slides... About the file which describes the presentation, we plan to use the same syntax as edje. So we can use the source code of edje_cc as a base for the compiler and maintain the app will be more easy for the community. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel