[E-devel] E16 distribution split
Hi, I have made a test with splitting up the E16 distribution. I rearranged the directories: The WM, dox, eesh, and epp, mostly in the usual places e16/e e16/e/config (was e16/e/src/themes/config) e16/e/dox e16/e/eesh ... e16/e/src Moved the dox data, i.e. the documentation pages to e16/edox-data e16/edox-data/E-docs Moved the themes to e16/ethemes/BlueSteel containing BlueSteel.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/BrushedMetal-Tigert containing BrushedMetal-Tigert.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/Ganymede containing Ganymede.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/ShinyMetal containing ShinyMetal.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... We had 11.9 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz The new packages are 1.6 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz (binaries are < 1 Mbyte) 2.1 Mbyte edox-docs-0.16.7.tar.gz 0.7 Mbyte etheme-BlueSteel-0.16-1.tar.gz 3.9 Mbyte etheme-BrushedMetal-Tigert-0.16-1.tar.gz 2.5 Mbyte etheme-Ganymede-0.16-1.tar.gz 1.2 Mbyte etheme-ShinyMetal-0.16-1.tar.gz I like this a lot better than the old monolithic 12M one :) Is there any reason not to go ahead and do this? Is there a better way (names, directory layout, ...)? Comments? /Kim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
KW> We had KW> 11.9 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz KW> KW> The new packages are KW> 1.6 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz (binaries are < 1 Mbyte) Maybe this can be called enlightenment-base, as it does not include docs etc. KW> 2.1 Mbyte edox-docs-0.16.7.tar.gz KW> KW> 0.7 Mbyte etheme-BlueSteel-0.16-1.tar.gz KW> 3.9 Mbyte etheme-BrushedMetal-Tigert-0.16-1.tar.gz KW> 2.5 Mbyte etheme-Ganymede-0.16-1.tar.gz KW> 1.2 Mbyte etheme-ShinyMetal-0.16-1.tar.gz Does the enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz package work, after compilation, or should there be a theme installed in the system ? If a theme is a must to run, then I guess it would be better to include the smallest (in size) theme in the base/main package, just to let people see it work. -- Onur KucukKnowledge speaks, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>but wisdom listens --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
On Thursday 04 March 2004 06:47 pm, Kim Woelders wrote: > Is there any reason not to go ahead and do this? > Is there a better way (names, directory layout, ...)? > Comments? i dont know how other people feel but there any chance we could change 'dox' to 'edox' ? i had to do so in Gentoo due to the fact it was clobbering the dox package, http://dox.berlios.de/ ... -mike --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
On Friday, 05 March 2004, at 19:59:23 (-0500), Mike Frysinger wrote: > i dont know how other people feel but there any chance we could change 'dox' > to 'edox' ? > i had to do so in Gentoo due to the fact it was clobbering the dox package, > http://dox.berlios.de/ ... E had "dox" long before this other thing ever existed. It should have to change *its* name, not the other way around. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- "Who are you people?" "We're writers." "What are you striking for?" "More money." "How much do you earn?" "$350,000." -- conversation with striking Writer's Guild member as reported by Bernard Weintraub in the New York Times --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
On Thursday 04 March 2004 06:47 pm, Kim Woelders wrote: > Is there any reason not to go ahead and do this? > Is there a better way (names, directory layout, ...)? > Comments? i dont know how other people feel but there any chance we could change 'dox' to 'edox' ? i had to do so in Gentoo due to the fact it was clobbering the dox package, http://dox.berlios.de/ ... -mike --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
Michael Jennings wrote: On Friday, 05 March 2004, at 19:59:23 (-0500), Mike Frysinger wrote: i dont know how other people feel but there any chance we could change 'dox' to 'edox' ? i had to do so in Gentoo due to the fact it was clobbering the dox package, http://dox.berlios.de/ ... E had "dox" long before this other thing ever existed. It should have to change *its* name, not the other way around. I think we could be a bit pragmatic about the name of a program that is probably never ever called explicitly. Actually, I think it should be moved to $EROOT/bin/ (e.g. /usr/share/enlightenment/bin/) together with epp. Then it wouldn't have to be renamed. The most annoying thing about renaming or moving dox is that the epplets package would have to be updated too. /Kim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
On Saturday 06 March 2004 02:48 am, Kim Woelders wrote: > Actually, I think it should be moved to $EROOT/bin/ (e.g. > /usr/share/enlightenment/bin/) together with epp. Then it wouldn't have > to be renamed. generally putting arch-specific binary data in /usr/share is frowned upon ... moving it to /usr/lib/enlightenment/ would be the standard alternative, but seems overkill if it's the only thing in there ... -mike --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
On Saturday, 06 March 2004, at 08:48:28 (+0100), Kim Woelders wrote: > I think we could be a bit pragmatic about the name of a program that > is probably never ever called explicitly. Hrmph. You're no fun. :-P > Actually, I think it should be moved to $EROOT/bin/ (e.g. > /usr/share/enlightenment/bin/) together with epp. Then it wouldn't > have to be renamed. Binaries should not be in /usr/share. That's what /usr/libexec is for. On Saturday, 06 March 2004, at 03:03:40 (-0500), Mike Frysinger wrote: > generally putting arch-specific binary data in /usr/share is frowned > upon ... moving it to /usr/lib/enlightenment/ would be the standard > alternative, but seems overkill if it's the only thing in there ... libexec, not lib. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- "You've got more paranoid fantasies than Stephen King on crack." -- Mr. James, Newsradio --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 00:47:41 +0100 Kim Woelders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: (B (B> Hi, (B> (B> I have made a test with splitting up the E16 distribution. (B> (B> I rearranged the directories: (B> (B> The WM, dox, eesh, and epp, mostly in the usual places (B> e16/e (B> e16/e/config (was e16/e/src/themes/config) (B> e16/e/dox (B> e16/e/eesh (B> ... (B> e16/e/src (B> (B> Moved the dox data, i.e. the documentation pages to (B> e16/edox-data (B> e16/edox-data/E-docs (B> (B> Moved the themes to (B> e16/ethemes/BlueSteel (B>containing BlueSteel.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... (B> e16/ethemes/BrushedMetal-Tigert (B>containing BrushedMetal-Tigert.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... (B> e16/ethemes/Ganymede (B>containing Ganymede.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... (B> e16/ethemes/ShinyMetal (B>containing ShinyMetal.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... (B> (B> (B> We had (B> 11.9 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz (B> (B> The new packages are (B> 1.6 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz (binaries are < 1 Mbyte) (B> (B> 2.1 Mbyte edox-docs-0.16.7.tar.gz (B> (B> 0.7 Mbyte etheme-BlueSteel-0.16-1.tar.gz (B> 3.9 Mbyte etheme-BrushedMetal-Tigert-0.16-1.tar.gz (B> 2.5 Mbyte etheme-Ganymede-0.16-1.tar.gz (B> 1.2 Mbyte etheme-ShinyMetal-0.16-1.tar.gz (B> (B> I like this a lot better than the old monolithic 12M one :) (B> (B> Is there any reason not to go ahead and do this? (B> Is there a better way (names, directory layout, ...)? (B> Comments? (B (Bthe good: nice to split it up and let people update separately as needed. (Bthe bad: people always complain they have to download more than one thing. i (Bjust think they are to lazy :) (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-devel mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
Kim Woelders wrote: Hi, I have made a test with splitting up the E16 distribution. I rearranged the directories: The WM, dox, eesh, and epp, mostly in the usual places e16/e e16/e/config (was e16/e/src/themes/config) e16/e/dox e16/e/eesh ... e16/e/src Moved the dox data, i.e. the documentation pages to e16/edox-data e16/edox-data/E-docs Moved the themes to e16/ethemes/BlueSteel containing BlueSteel.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/BrushedMetal-Tigert containing BrushedMetal-Tigert.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/Ganymede containing Ganymede.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/ShinyMetal containing ShinyMetal.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... We had 11.9 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz The new packages are 1.6 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz (binaries are < 1 Mbyte) 2.1 Mbyte edox-docs-0.16.7.tar.gz 0.7 Mbyte etheme-BlueSteel-0.16-1.tar.gz 3.9 Mbyte etheme-BrushedMetal-Tigert-0.16-1.tar.gz 2.5 Mbyte etheme-Ganymede-0.16-1.tar.gz 1.2 Mbyte etheme-ShinyMetal-0.16-1.tar.gz I like this a lot better than the old monolithic 12M one :) Is there any reason not to go ahead and do this? Is there a better way (names, directory layout, ...)? Comments? For the last month or so things have been rearranged in CVS as outlined above (with the exception that dox was renamed to edox). I haven't deleted the theme/dox stuff from the old locations yet, so it is still quite easy to revert to the old layout. It is my impression that there are no strong objections against the change, so now I'd like to nail it down and remove the stuff from the old locations. Any reasons not to? /Kim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
Kim Woelders wrote: [snip] No objections. Just could you include a note in the README or somewhere detailing what we need to download and how to install it. Must say, I've enjoyed your efforts to keep e16 up to date. Not only are bugs getting fixed but I've appreciated your ready willingness to try to fix almost anything (within reason, of course). -- In Reach Technology:http://inreachtech.net/ Robert G. Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 559.304.5122 "Slow down, Bart! My legs don't know how to be as long as yours." --Ralph Wiggum This Little Wiggy (Episode 5F13) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
Kim Woelders wrote: Kim Woelders wrote: Hi, I have made a test with splitting up the E16 distribution. I rearranged the directories: The WM, dox, eesh, and epp, mostly in the usual places e16/e e16/e/config (was e16/e/src/themes/config) e16/e/dox e16/e/eesh ... e16/e/src Moved the dox data, i.e. the documentation pages to e16/edox-data e16/edox-data/E-docs Moved the themes to e16/ethemes/BlueSteel containing BlueSteel.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/BrushedMetal-Tigert containing BrushedMetal-Tigert.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/Ganymede containing Ganymede.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... e16/ethemes/ShinyMetal containing ShinyMetal.etheme* autogen.sh configure.in ... We had 11.9 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz The new packages are 1.6 Mbyte enlightenment-0.16.7.tar.gz (binaries are < 1 Mbyte) 2.1 Mbyte edox-docs-0.16.7.tar.gz 0.7 Mbyte etheme-BlueSteel-0.16-1.tar.gz 3.9 Mbyte etheme-BrushedMetal-Tigert-0.16-1.tar.gz 2.5 Mbyte etheme-Ganymede-0.16-1.tar.gz 1.2 Mbyte etheme-ShinyMetal-0.16-1.tar.gz I like this a lot better than the old monolithic 12M one :) Is there any reason not to go ahead and do this? Is there a better way (names, directory layout, ...)? Comments? For the last month or so things have been rearranged in CVS as outlined above (with the exception that dox was renamed to edox). I haven't deleted the theme/dox stuff from the old locations yet, so it is still quite easy to revert to the old layout. It is my impression that there are no strong objections against the change, so now I'd like to nail it down and remove the stuff from the old locations. Any reasons not to? /Kim Sounds great Kim. I haven't check, have the Makefiles been updated to make dist without all the cruft? And are you planning a pre- release of 16.7 or just going to drop the final? I'm hoping I can get some ports ready as near to the release date as I can. I've already done some testing on Solaris but run into some problems. I'm hoping to straighten those out and possibly even get an IRIX port together. Great work Kim! benr. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
Ben Rockwood wrote: Sounds great Kim. I haven't check, have the Makefiles been updated to make dist without all the cruft? I think auto* and RPM specs are updated and working in the e16/e as well as in the new edox-data and theme directories. And are you planning a pre- release of 16.7 or just going to drop the final? I definitively don't want to go for one final 16.7. I'm sure some pre's will flush out some bugs. I'm hoping I can get some ports ready as near to the release date as I can. I've already done some testing on Solaris but run into some problems. I'm hoping to straighten those out and possibly even get an IRIX port together. Is there anything I can do to ease the porting? /Kim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E16 distribution split
Robert G. Werner wrote: Just could you include a note in the README or somewhere detailing what we need to download and how to install it. Yes, I guess there should be a few lines. /Kim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
