Re: [E-devel] Fun with 0.17.0
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 08:34:55AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 01:42:43 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:33:03 +0100 Albin Tonnerre albin.tonne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: we upgraded major config version for e17 - thus yes - it gets wiped. Just curious - what was the particular change that required the config to get wiped? Also just curious, isn't it one of the design features of eet that you can easily track what changes between versions of the files using it? No need to wipe. Just write simple code to upgrade old config files when you read them. That's how I'm using it in my projects. I guess things are different with the e17 config stuff? eet has no such feature. eet is a data structure serialiser/de-serialiser plus image codec plus key-value file container handler. thats it. the rest is built on top in your code this was done not because we added 3 new items and want to merge the new values in. i want ALL the config values set back to a default sane state. for people who have used e17 before and for many who have complained i get problem X or y happens the solution has been to change the default config to, by default, avoid the issue - eg it's a gfx driver issue and so it works for some, and not for others, and thus it has a checkbox. the point was to go back to baseline for everyone, to alleviate the well it works for me thing (because me has some option set setup by default - e17's default, and the other has old crufty config with a totally different setup and they havent CONSCIOUSLY changed it within recent memory or every but just happen to be vastly different). FWIW: every time I got some weird problem nobody was able to see, I just installed default config and tried it again with default (or rather default mobile). Just saying it's not hard for reporter to check if the problem is there also with default config. Cheers, -- Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: martin.ja...@gmail.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Fun with 0.17.0
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: we upgraded major config version for e17 - thus yes - it gets wiped. Just curious - what was the particular change that required the config to get wiped? Thanks, -- Albin -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Fun with 0.17.0
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:33:03 +0100 Albin Tonnerre albin.tonne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: we upgraded major config version for e17 - thus yes - it gets wiped. Just curious - what was the particular change that required the config to get wiped? Also just curious, isn't it one of the design features of eet that you can easily track what changes between versions of the files using it? No need to wipe. Just write simple code to upgrade old config files when you read them. That's how I'm using it in my projects. I guess things are different with the e17 config stuff? -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Fun with 0.17.0
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 01:42:43 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:33:03 +0100 Albin Tonnerre albin.tonne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: we upgraded major config version for e17 - thus yes - it gets wiped. Just curious - what was the particular change that required the config to get wiped? Also just curious, isn't it one of the design features of eet that you can easily track what changes between versions of the files using it? No need to wipe. Just write simple code to upgrade old config files when you read them. That's how I'm using it in my projects. I guess things are different with the e17 config stuff? eet has no such feature. eet is a data structure serialiser/de-serialiser plus image codec plus key-value file container handler. thats it. the rest is built on top in your code this was done not because we added 3 new items and want to merge the new values in. i want ALL the config values set back to a default sane state. for people who have used e17 before and for many who have complained i get problem X or y happens the solution has been to change the default config to, by default, avoid the issue - eg it's a gfx driver issue and so it works for some, and not for others, and thus it has a checkbox. the point was to go back to baseline for everyone, to alleviate the well it works for me thing (because me has some option set setup by default - e17's default, and the other has old crufty config with a totally different setup and they havent CONSCIOUSLY changed it within recent memory or every but just happen to be vastly different). -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Fun with 0.17.0
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:12:54 -0500 Michael Hughes mary...@compuserve.com said: All I am building 1.7.4 and 0.17.0 from the source snapshots on Fedora 17. EFL went through without a hitch but E17 would not compile. CCLD temperature/tempget make[4]: *** No rule to make target `illume-keyboard/e-module-illume-keyboard.edj', needed by `all-am'. Stop. I ran it with --disable-illume2 which made it go through. I don't know what I lost with that. umm that gets compiled at compile time... edje_cc - your real error will be somewhere else in your log. Once installed it would not run. ~/.xsession-errors showed that it could not find libelementary.so.1 even though the file was present. Apparently it is looking in /usr/local/lib for this particular file even though it is configured with --libdir=/usr/local/lib64. The other libraries are fine. I had to put in some links to make it run. /etc/ld.so.conf issues? read up on ldconfig/ld.so.conf Now I could go through the initial setup program. I allowed the default values for the video features to see what would happen but what happened is that it produced a message saying that another compositor was running and then locked up hard. I had to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get out of it and that was all I could get when I restarted it. I restored the old configuration which let me start over and turn all of the video features off. multihead? xinerama/randr? what setup? Now the desktop came up along with a message informing me that my old configuration could not be used and had been wiped. Of course, I had put a lot of time and effort into that configuration. At this point I was getting a little frustrated so I restored the older version. I will try this one again when I have the time and energy to build a new desktop from scratch. It is probably just as well to see what I can do with the new features. we upgraded major config version for e17 - thus yes - it gets wiped. Mike -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
