Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:49:08AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Justin P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened > > people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is. > > FreeBSD. Which isn't a flavor of linux. :-) Yeah, me to. Make world and the power to server. -- J. Erik Heinz Mitarbeiter am Lehrstuhl fuer Entwicklung betrieblicher InformationsSysteme --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Thanks guys
I appreciate your input on the distro question. I believe I can handle it from here :-) Thanks again Justin --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
Debian testing. Kenneth --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Sweet graphics/animation 2 seconds after linux boots!
Hi! In my attempts to make edje work on DirectFB I did what Ive been waiting a long time for: use Edje to get some sweeet looking bootup graphics 2 seconds after linux boots up (yes, that's actually 2 seconds!). I'm hoping this will spark some interest in getting involved with improving DirectFB - Evas/Ecore/Edje compatability/bindings. The screenshot is posted on the (under development, yet soon there) new DirectFB website: http://tolva.shacknet.nu/screenshots.php?id=20 Description of the screenshot: A test app with smooth animations and effects running 2 seconds after linux boots. It is started from an initrd with DirectFB, Evas, Ecore, and Edje. The initrd image is roughly 3800kb. Graphics card is radeon 9600XT with 256MB ram however it is slow since the directfb radeon driver cant yet accelerate the argb surfaces that evas uses. Whenever the radeon driver in DirectFB can render argb surfaces hardware accelerated it will be LIGHTNING fast :) Oh did I mention the app itself is 75 lines of code..! ;) altough the .eet file describing the graphics and animation is 798 lines (created by The Rasterman - www.rasterman.com) Be nice if the site goes offline.. I have an unstable wireless link.. Hallvar Helleseth --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
E-16.5 on a FreeBSD 5.2 Box E-16.4 on a OpenBSD -current Box E-16.6 in my Slackware -current laptop E-17 (tryied a little in Slackware's laptop too) it's hard to get it now on slackware, since pat didn't makes official packages (extremely hard with Eterm). On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:21:22 -0500 Justin P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened > people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is. > > Justin > > > > --- > SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. > Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with > a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On 02/28/04 21:44:59, Francisco de Borja López Río wrote: E-16.5 on a FreeBSD 5.2 Box E-16.4 on a OpenBSD -current Box E-16.6 in my Slackware -current laptop E-17 (tryied a little in Slackware's laptop too) it's hard to get it now on slackware, since pat didn't makes official packages (extremely hard with Eterm). What problems are you having with E or Eterm now under Slack? There was a problem under Slack-9 in that the ksh93 package contained a library file named libast-so.5.4 which conflicted with the libast required by Eterm-9.2. The Slackware-current ksh package no longer contains the conflicting library. I compiled E, Eterm (and libast) with no problems on a fresh install of slackware-9.1 (immediately upgraded to -current.) Brad --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
(B> Hello, (B> (B> Some of U has tried www.knoppix.org which is a LIVE-CD distro based on (B> debian. You can choose lang, wm, at boot time. There is about 2Go of (B> applications on only 1 CD. The packages are uncompressed "in live". (B> (B> It's very interesting to verify if a computer is Linux compatible. Just (B> Boot on the CD and look the eyes of the (windows) sailor when you can (B>- connect to the network especially if there is a DHCP (B>- access the windows partitions with only a click on the desktop (B> icons (B>- run the last e17 installed on your USB key !!! (B>- use open office (B>- try the usb or iEEE connection with your camera (B>- print if there is printer connected (B>- and many other things that a full system can run. (B> (B> all this without anything installed on the disk ! (B> And the sailor prays for you to forget the CD !:-D ! (B> (B> Actually, e isn't in the wm list you can choose at boot time but knoppix (B> is, in fact, a debian sarge and gives tools to create/add/remove the (B> (un)needed debian packages. (B (Bif anyone wants they could make a knoppix build/variant that does ship with E as (Bthe wm... :) (B (B> After booting and validating, you can install knoppix (debian (B> apt-get/cache ...) on your computer. (B> (B> Any computer (of friend, parents, company) can be transformed in a full (B> linux system configured for your needs anytime ! powerful no ?! (B> (B> (B> (B> (B> (B> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:41:39 -0500 Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (B> > babbled: (B> > (B> > > On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:59:49 +0900 (B> > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: (B> > > (B> > > > but i guess the real thread here was "is there an e based distro" or (B> > > > "e friendly" one. i'd love to do a mini distro for e - for a lean (B> > > > desktop - all clean and spotless. (B> > > (B> > > (B> > > There is one (B> > > (B> > > http://undeadlinux.org/ (B> > > (B> > > Been awhile since I tested it but it installs in the manner of gentoo (B> > (B> > ooh it's alive! err i man dead... err undead :) (B> -- (B> Debian SID (B> Linux tanna 2.6.3 #1 Tue Feb 24 03:06:51 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux (B> Linux Counter #59413 (B> PGP fingerprint : 9AFA 15EC 96C9 F607 EBC1 DD41 70C5 F0E0 25A5 105B (B> (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sweet graphics/animation 2 seconds after linux boots!
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:03:37 +0100 Hallvar Helleseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Bbabbled: (B (B> Hi! (B> (B> In my attempts to make edje work on DirectFB I did what Ive been (B> waiting a long time for: use Edje to get some sweeet looking bootup (B> graphics 2 seconds after linux boots up (yes, that's actually 2 seconds!). (B> (B> I'm hoping this will spark some interest in getting involved with (B> improving DirectFB - Evas/Ecore/Edje compatability/bindings. (B (BI'm all for that. so far we have X & FB support working ok. The FB support is (Bnot the best since its mouse and keyboard driving is very simplistic - but it (Bdoes work. DFB is a good target. NB: the DFB rendering routines in Evas could (Bdefinitely be optimised - especially the Text routines. :) (B (BBTW - your app will probably run significantly faster with evas's FB driver and (Becore's FB support. :) also rendering quality will be much higher than DFB. also (Bthe advantage will be that you wont need DFb either so the initrd will be (Bsmaller :) (B (Bbut yes - the important thing is that the same app with (almost) no changes will (Brun on dfb, x (x software and gl - maybe xrender one day when xrender stops (Bbeing about 30 times slower than software rendering), fb and in future other (Btarget displays. (B (B> The screenshot is posted on the (under development, yet soon there) new (B> DirectFB website: (B> http://tolva.shacknet.nu/screenshots.php?id=20 (B> (B> Description of the screenshot: (B> A test app with smooth animations and effects running 2 seconds after (B> linux boots. It is started from an initrd with DirectFB, Evas, Ecore, (B> and Edje. The initrd image is roughly 3800kb. Graphics card is radeon (B> 9600XT with 256MB ram however it is slow since the directfb radeon (B> driver cant yet accelerate the argb surfaces that evas uses. Whenever (B> the radeon driver in DirectFB can render argb surfaces hardware (B> accelerated it will be LIGHTNING fast :) Oh did I mention the app itself (B> is 75 lines of code..! ;) altough the .eet file describing the graphics (B> and animation is 798 lines (created by The Rasterman - (B> www.rasterman.com) (B> (B> Be nice if the site goes offline.. I have an unstable wireless link.. (B> (B> Hallvar Helleseth (B> (B> (B> (B> --- (B> SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. (B> Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with (B> a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! (B> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click (B> ___ (B> enlightenment-users mailing list (B> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sweet graphics/animation 2 seconds after linux boots!
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 04:15, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:03:37 +0100 Hallvar Helleseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > Hi! > > > > In my attempts to make edje work on DirectFB I did what Ive been > > waiting a long time for: use Edje to get some sweeet looking bootup > > graphics 2 seconds after linux boots up (yes, that's actually 2 seconds!). > > > > I'm hoping this will spark some interest in getting involved with > > improving DirectFB - Evas/Ecore/Edje compatability/bindings. > > I'm all for that. so far we have X & FB support working ok. The FB support is > not the best since its mouse and keyboard driving is very simplistic - but it > does work. Great! Don't know if you're going to like the quality of my code in Ecore and Evas though! hehe.. Ive been promising a patch for a long time.. haven't really touched much for a few months, until today. DFB has good input support for many devices (http://tolva.shacknet.nu/modules.php) and they are all modules. > DFB is a good target. NB: the DFB rendering routines in Evas could > definitely be optimised - especially the Text routines. :) Two major bugs: (I have no clue how to solve them, Ive tried everything my skills allow me to) 1. Wierd stuff happends with text when not using --dfb:no-hardware... I have NO idea whats going on.. tested on Matrox G550 and radeon 9600XT. 2. and the other is the alphablending which you pointed out a long time ago. I believe when using Matrox G550 the alphablending is okey. Im having a hard time figuring out who to blame for it... DirectFB or Evas? or both? Im putting up a screenshot showing both bugs: http://tolva.shacknet.nu/screenshots.php?id=21 > BTW - your app will probably run significantly faster with evas's FB driver and > ecore's FB support. :) I don't think so when the DirectFB radeon driver is complete! Matrox G550 is also by far faster than fb and X, beats them by a whole lot! > also rendering quality will be much higher than DFB. also > the advantage will be that you wont need DFb either so the initrd will be > smaller :) without directfb the initrd will be 308kb (libdirectfb) + 116kb (dfb modules) = 424kb lighter... which can be shaved even more with some special compile-time options. and the modules include jpeg and png imageproviders that aren't really necessary as evas does its own thing.. > but yes - the important thing is that the same app with (almost) no changes will > run on dfb, x (x software and gl - maybe xrender one day when xrender stops > being about 30 times slower than software rendering), fb and in future other > target displays. Evas/Ecore/Edje make up for one hell of a team! cheers! I'm including patches for what Ive done so far.. its not meant for being imported into official cvs archives but If someone with more time wants to help out it would be really very nice! hopefully it will compile without major complications.. I think alot of stuff needs to be rewritten, I been mostly interested in getting it to work. hmm.. tried this but it doesn't include new files.. how can I do that? cvs diff -bBNau . > ../ecore-dfb.patch need to sleep! sending patch tomorrow :) Hallvar --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sweet graphics/animation 2 seconds after linux boots!
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 05:22:05 +0100 Hallvar Helleseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Bbabbled: (B (B> On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 04:15, Carsten Haitzler wrote: (B> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:03:37 +0100 Hallvar Helleseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (B> > babbled: (B> > (B> > > Hi! (B> > > (B> > > In my attempts to make edje work on DirectFB I did what Ive been (B> > > waiting a long time for: use Edje to get some sweeet looking bootup (B> > > graphics 2 seconds after linux boots up (yes, that's actually 2 seconds!). (B> > > (B> > > I'm hoping this will spark some interest in getting involved with (B> > > improving DirectFB - Evas/Ecore/Edje compatability/bindings. (B> > (B> > I'm all for that. so far we have X & FB support working ok. The FB support (B> > is not the best since its mouse and keyboard driving is very simplistic - (B> > but it does work. (B> Great! Don't know if you're going to like the quality of my code in (B> Ecore and Evas though! hehe.. Ive been promising a patch for a long (B> time.. haven't really touched much for a few months, until today. (B (Bok - well 2 comments before you send a patch. (B (B1. keep indentation and style the same. it's nicer to have it all 1 style. (B2. keep naming (function, parameter, variable etc.) conventions similar (B3. check your code builds and doesnt break other parts of ecore, etc. (B (B> DFB has good input support for many devices (B> (http://tolva.shacknet.nu/modules.php) and they are all modules. (B> > DFB is a good target. NB: the DFB rendering routines in Evas could (B> > definitely be optimised - especially the Text routines. :) (B> (B> Two major bugs: (I have no clue how to solve them, Ive tried everything (B> my skills allow me to) (B> (B> 1. Wierd stuff happends with text when not using --dfb:no-hardware... I have (B> NO idea whats going on.. tested on Matrox G550 and radeon 9600XT. (B (Bi wouldnt know either! :) again - evas's dfb enging could do with some work :) (Bi might guess the text is suffering from pixel alignment problems to do with (Bassumed byte/row alignment etc. b ut again - not sure. (B (B> 2. and the other is the alphablending which you pointed out a long time (B> ago. I believe when using Matrox G550 the alphablending is okey. Im (B> having a hard time figuring out who to blame for it... DirectFB or Evas? (B> or both? (B (Bevas's alpha blending is fine. dfb's destination alpha code has bugs. i cangt (Bactually remember the details anymore - but i defnitnely narrowed it down to (Bfb either simply not implimenting a feature at all, or implimenting it (Bincorrectly. (B (B> Im putting up a screenshot showing both bugs: (B> http://tolva.shacknet.nu/screenshots.php?id=21 (B> (B> > BTW - your app will probably run significantly faster with evas's FB driver (B> > and ecore's FB support. :) (B> I don't think so when the DirectFB radeon driver is complete! Matrox (B> G550 is also by far faster than fb and X, beats them by a whole lot! (B (Baaah! but it ISNT complete! :) that's the thing - and what about all the (Bother cards with only half dont or no drivers? evaqs fb will be significantly (Bfaster and better quality in those situations. (B (Bpersonalyl i think this shoudl be the job eventually of ecore_evas - (Bselecting the best engine for the job (fb, dfb, x etc.) based on 1. what's (Bavailable and 2. speed. there should be a speed texting suite to determine (Bwhich to use (and maybe a speed vs. quality tester) and then it should make a (Brecommendation to a user "select engine X" and give performance and quality (Bnumbers. (B (B> > also rendering quality will be much higher than DFB. also (B> > the advantage will be that you wont need DFb either so the initrd will be (B> > smaller :) (B> without directfb the initrd will be 308kb (libdirectfb) + 116kb (dfb (B> modules) = 424kb lighter... which can be shaved even more with some (B> special compile-time options. and the modules include jpeg and png (B> imageproviders that aren't really necessary as evas does its own thing.. (B (Bthats fairly light - still a bit lighter :) (B (B> > but yes - the important thing is that the same app with (almost) no changes (B> > will run on dfb, x (x software and gl - maybe xrender one day when xrender (B> > stops being about 30 times slower than software rendering), fb and in future (B> > other target displays. (B> Evas/Ecore/Edje make up for one hell of a team! cheers! (B (Bthey aren't complete and for now they arent a competitor to gtk, qt and some (Bthings - but theres potential. :) (B (B> I'm including patches for what Ive done so far.. its not meant for being (B> imported into official cvs archives but If someone with more time wants (B> to help out it would be really very nice! hopefully it will compile (B> without major complications.. I think alot of stuff needs to be (B> rewritten, I been mostly interested in getting it to work. (B> (B> hmm.. tried this but it does
