Re: [e-users] Sweet graphics/animation 2 seconds after linux boots!
On Sun 29 Feb 2004, Hallvar Helleseth wrote: Hi! In my attempts to make edje work on DirectFB I did what Ive been waiting a long time for: use Edje to get some sweeet looking bootup graphics 2 seconds after linux boots up (yes, that's actually 2 seconds!). I'm hoping this will spark some interest in getting involved with improving DirectFB - Evas/Ecore/Edje compatability/bindings. The screenshot is posted on the (under development, yet soon there) new DirectFB website: http://tolva.shacknet.nu/screenshots.php?id=20 Description of the screenshot: A test app with smooth animations and effects running 2 seconds after linux boots. It is started from an initrd with DirectFB, Evas, Ecore, and Edje. The initrd image is roughly 3800kb. Graphics card is radeon 9600XT with 256MB ram however it is slow since the directfb radeon driver cant yet accelerate the argb surfaces that evas uses. Whenever the radeon driver in DirectFB can render argb surfaces hardware accelerated it will be LIGHTNING fast :) Oh did I mention the app itself is 75 lines of code..! ;) altough the .eet file describing the graphics and animation is 798 lines (created by The Rasterman - www.rasterman.com) Awesome ... one piece in my evil plan for the Eunuchs LiveCD distribution manifests into reality... -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Thu 26 Feb 2004, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:51:06 +0800 Wouter van Marle [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Strawberry flavour. Oh you mean distro? I'm using Mandrake now. Works OK, would be nice to have an Enlightenment based distro. It is still kind of a rough hack (using it as window manager under gtk2 desktop). if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd love to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no apache no mysql no openldap in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, log in, and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read e-mail. all things like gimp would be add-on packages (of course an easy to use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line. i'd like to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your login manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under seconds if you REALLY want (it's been done) :) Hmm...I didn't realize this discussion was already brewing on e-users. I am very interested at this point in creating an E-based distro/liveCD -- mostly out of frustration working with the various retarded Unix WMs I have to use at work. At this point the tentative plan is to take MandrakeMove (I chose it over Knoppix because it has better/more user-friendly administration tools) and strip it down to a bare minimum, then tack on the E suite and add a few absolutely necessary packages, and finish off with a nice graphical bootup that hands over to Entrance. If there is sufficient support for this I'll start up a new project on SF to begin. Proposed codename is Eunuchs (pronounced Unix, of course). Because everyone knows I'm a genius when it comes to naming projects. :) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sweet graphics/animation 2 seconds after linux boots!
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:44:54 -0600 Ibukun Olumuyiwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bbabbled: (B (B On Sun 29 Feb 2004, Hallvar Helleseth wrote: (B Hi! (B (B In my attempts to make edje work on DirectFB I did what Ive been (B waiting a long time for: use Edje to get some sweeet looking bootup (B graphics 2 seconds after linux boots up (yes, that's actually 2 seconds!). (B (B I'm hoping this will spark some interest in getting involved with (B improving DirectFB - Evas/Ecore/Edje compatability/bindings. (B (B The screenshot is posted on the (under development, yet soon there) new (B DirectFB website: (B http://tolva.shacknet.nu/screenshots.php?id=20 (B (B Description of the screenshot: (B A test app with smooth animations and effects running 2 seconds after (B linux boots. It is started from an initrd with DirectFB, Evas, Ecore, (B and Edje. The initrd image is roughly 3800kb. Graphics card is radeon (B 9600XT with 256MB ram however it is slow since the directfb radeon (B driver cant yet accelerate the argb surfaces that evas uses. Whenever (B the radeon driver in DirectFB can render argb surfaces hardware (B accelerated it will be LIGHTNING fast :) Oh did I mention the app itself (B is 75 lines of code..! ;) altough the .eet file describing the graphics (B and animation is 798 lines (created by The Rasterman - (B www.rasterman.com) (B (B Awesome ... one piece in my evil plan for the Eunuchs LiveCD distribution (B manifests into reality... (B (Bmaybe this could be something to be merged with entrance. entranced is actually (Bstarted as the first thing in init -instead of just another init script item, (Bthen entranced spawns the fb or dfb display client and talks to it messaging it (Bvia IPC to indicate boot status. when boot is ready and x can be run it asks (Bfb/dfb child client to exit, starts x and then starts x client entrance (Bwould come with a cmd-line status util so you'd fill your init scripts with (Bthese for example: (B (Bentrance_status -txt "Checking File System" -ico "/boot/icons/filesys.eet" (Bentrance_status -log "Error checking File System" (Bentrance_status -cmd "start-x" (B (B:) (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sweet graphics/animation 2 seconds after linux boots!
On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 02:21, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:44:54 -0600 Ibukun Olumuyiwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Sun 29 Feb 2004, Hallvar Helleseth wrote: Hi! In my attempts to make edje work on DirectFB I did what Ive been waiting a long time for: use Edje to get some sweeet looking bootup graphics 2 seconds after linux boots up (yes, that's actually 2 seconds!). I'm hoping this will spark some interest in getting involved with improving DirectFB - Evas/Ecore/Edje compatability/bindings. The screenshot is posted on the (under development, yet soon there) new DirectFB website: http://tolva.shacknet.nu/screenshots.php?id=20 Description of the screenshot: A test app with smooth animations and effects running 2 seconds after linux boots. It is started from an initrd with DirectFB, Evas, Ecore, and Edje. The initrd image is roughly 3800kb. Graphics card is radeon 9600XT with 256MB ram however it is slow since the directfb radeon driver cant yet accelerate the argb surfaces that evas uses. Whenever the radeon driver in DirectFB can render argb surfaces hardware accelerated it will be LIGHTNING fast :) Oh did I mention the app itself is 75 lines of code..! ;) altough the .eet file describing the graphics and animation is 798 lines (created by The Rasterman - www.rasterman.com) Awesome ... one piece in my evil plan for the Eunuchs LiveCD distribution manifests into reality... maybe this could be something to be merged with entrance. entranced is actually started as the first thing in init -instead of just another init script item, then entranced spawns the fb or dfb display client and talks to it messaging it via IPC to indicate boot status. when boot is ready and x can be run it asks fb/dfb child client to exit, starts x and then starts x client entrance would come with a cmd-line status util so you'd fill your init scripts with these for example: entrance_status -txt Checking File System -ico /boot/icons/filesys.eet entrance_status -log Error checking File System entrance_status -cmd start-x This is actually one of the reasons I like DFB instead of just plain FB (apart from hardware accell) - DFB has has multi-app core. While you cannot run two evas apps on FB at the same time, this is very possible with DFB, and IMHO quite important. The evas app started from initrd never ever exists - which is quite nice actually!! just one single mode switch. However you need to run XDirectFB if you want to use your X apps. but that wont be a problem if your graphics card is supported (XDirectFB does hardware GLX aswell! seems to be a bit faster than X at it too! atleast with glxgears on a matrox g550. Although it needs some work, but its being done!) Entrance would be a very nice app to be the controlling master DFB app. I've been experimenting a bit with that, but as I mentioned in a past email: entrance wont let me log in.. but hey, thats not important is it? just as long as it looks nice! ;) Hallvar --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] distrobutions
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:01:08 -0500 Justin P [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: (B (B I would love to help out with this idea. I am new at this development (B thing, so I won't be able to give much in the way of guidance but would (B gladly be an indian and listen and do what the chiefs suggest. (B (Bwell at this stage it's probably a question of - either if we make it compatible (Bwith a dist - example, make it based on debian and use .deb's then it will just (Bbe a specific fork of debian's base and we can apt-get install the rest. do we (Bbuild off RH/fedora? or mandrake? or do we simply examine dists and "DIY" (B (Bpersonally i'd DIY to meet the goals of making it ultra-small and ultra-fast to (Bboot. (B (B Justin (B (B On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:23, Carsten Haitzler wrote: (B On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:54:07 -0600 Ibukun Olumuyiwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B babbled: (B (B Hmm...I didn't realize this discussion was already brewing on e-users. I (B am very interested at this point in creating an E-based distro/liveCD -- (B mostly out of frustration working with the various retarded Unix WMs I (B (B there's also undeadlinux that tries to be this - i know very little about it (B - so i don't know if its alive, dead, how good etc. (B (B have to use at work. At this point the tentative plan is to take (B MandrakeMove (I chose it over Knoppix because it has better/more (B user-friendly administration tools) and strip it down to a bare minimum, (B then tack on the E suite and add a few absolutely necessary packages, and (B finish off with a nice graphical bootup that hands over to Entrance. If (B there is sufficient support for this I'll start up a new project on SF to (B begin. Proposed codename is Eunuchs (pronounced "Unix", of course). (B Because everyone knows I'm a genius when it comes to naming projects. :) (B (B not sure i like enuchs... but... hehehehe :) first i like this idea - but (B we'd need REAL dedication to this. doing a dist - of any size is a LOT of (B work. and i see us having 2 issues here. we have a CD "live" dist and an (B installed dist - they can share a lot in common - in fatc i'd love to see a (B live dist where one option after it has booted is "install me" as a (B menu/app/button etc. the problem with building on a dist and stripping it (B down is that you inherit its cruft - no matter how far you strip. (B (B personally i'd look agt WHAT the dists do to run well and then do it again (B "from scratch". that'd be how i would do it. you will make a MUCh leaner (B dist and actually understand every component and know why it is there and (B exactly what it does. in all honesty this isnt as hard as it sounds... (B (B -- (B (B Ibukun Olumuyiwa (B http://xcomputerman.com (B (B "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy (B getting get understanding." - Proverbs 4:7 (B (B (B (B (B --- (B SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. (B Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with (B a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! (B http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B ___ (B enlightenment-users mailing list (B [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sweet graphics/animation 2 seconds after linux boots!
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 03:51:13 +0100 Hallvar Helleseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bbabbled: (B (B This is actually one of the reasons I like DFB instead of just plain FB (B (apart from hardware accell) - DFB has has multi-app core. While you (B cannot run two evas apps on FB at the same time, this is very possible (B with DFB, and IMHO quite important. The evas app started from initrd (B never ever exists - which is quite nice actually!! just one single mode (B switch. However you need to run XDirectFB if you want to use your X (B apps. but that wont be a problem if your graphics card is supported (B (XDirectFB does hardware GLX aswell! seems to be a bit faster than X at (B it too! atleast with glxgears on a matrox g550. Although it needs some (B work, but its being done!) (B (Bthe problem is for a LOT (probably most) people their hardware wont be (Baccelerated by dfb - so this isn't really an option. for boot ALL we need is 1 (Bapp in the fb (or dfb) and it can display until X can be run - then screen gets (Bmode switch. this will work for everyone. if dfb or fb are used on bootup can be (Bdetermined if dfb accelerates the card sufficiently. remember dfb also has lower (Brendering quality than evas in the fb - significantly. i could come up with (Bdemonstrations - bu (B (B Entrance would be a very nice app to be the controlling master DFB app. (B I've been experimenting a bit with that, but as I mentioned in a past (B email: entrance wont let me log in.. but hey, thats not important is (B it? just as long as it looks nice! ;) (B (Bhehehe - well it was working for me until today... now it stopped working (Bgrrr. haven't had time to hunt it down :( (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
