Re: [e-users] can't get embryo_cc to work

2004-07-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:04:58 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
(B
(B> Hello all,
(B> 
(B> I downloaded yesterday most EFL libraries and some applications from CVS.  
(B> The libraries compiled fine, but when I tried to compile Entice and  
(B> Entrance I got the following error:
(B
(Bfixed. snprintf changes broke embryo_cc.
(B
(B> ...
(B> edje_cc: Wrote  1743 bytes (   2Kb) for "images/42" image entry  
(B> "border-bevel.png" compress: [raw: 44.4%] [real: -39.8%]
(B> edje_cc: Wrote 11695 bytes (  11Kb) for "collections/0" collection  
(B> entry
(B> edje_cc: Wrote  1284 bytes (   1Kb) for "collections/1" collection  
(B> entry
(B> edje_cc: Wrote   625 bytes (   1Kb) for "collections/2" collection  
(B> entry
(B> embryo_cc: embryo_cc_sc1.c:2227: funcdisplayname: Assertion `tagsym[1] !=  
(B> ((void *)0)' failed.
(B> 6
(B> edje_cc: Warning. Compiling script code not clean.
(B> make[3]: *** [default.eet] Fehler 255
(B> make[3]: *** Warte auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse...
(B> ...
(B> 
(B> So, I tried this and that, and found, that I couldn't even compile the  
(B> example in the embryo/examples directory, i.e.
(B> 
(B> embryo_cc -oexample.sma example.amx
(B> 
(B> gave the same error as above. Not even the empty file compiles. Messing  
(B> around a bit with the embryo_cc sources I tracked down (a possible  
(B> manifestation of) the problem, which is the parsing of "default.inc". It  
(B> seems, in embryo_cc_sc1.c funcdisplayname() gets called from  
(B> operatoradjust() shortly before a "symbol already defined" error. If I got  
(B> it right, it happens while parsing
(B> 
(B> native Float:operator*(Float:oper1, Float:oper2) = float_mul;
(B> 
(B> in the hidden calls section in default.inc. So, after some more tries,  
(B> with everything from that line on commented out, it compiled the example,  
(B> but when making Entice for example I get now "tag mismatch" errors. Not  
(B> that I had hoped much that this obscure "workaround" would actually  
(B> work... However, I'm at a loss of what to do next.
(B> 
(B> Anybody has any idea what could be wrong?
(B> 
(B> Marc
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Re: [e-users] can't get embryo_cc to work

2004-07-26 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 02:38, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Monday, 26 July 2004, at 23:26:25 (+0200),
>
> Andreas Volz wrote:
> > And if the the questioner has a RPM based distribution you could
> > perhaps use gentoo's feature to create RPM's with ebuild. I wonder
> > why nobody yet uses this feature from gentoo to create (unofficial)
> > RPM packages from E17 CVS?
>
> Because the resulting packages would be completely useless.  There's a
> reason you can't necessarily use FC2 RPM's on a RH9 box and vice
> versa.  Gentoo, Debian, and any other system capable of producing
> RPM's has the same problem.
>
> The spec files for all the EFL libs are clean and working.  RPM's are
> easy to build, no Gentoo required.

I really appriciate the effort of supplying valid spec files in the CVS - its 
make life so much easier for distributions and other packagers. I wish that 
more projects will follow.

I'm trying to build RPMs from CVS for my system (Mandrake 10). actually - 
I'm writing a script that will allow to build E17 CVS and install it as RPMs 
directly. the resulting RPMs will of course be useless for anyone not using 
Mandrake 10, but the source RPMs generated will be useful to build the 
specific CVS snapshot on other systems - much more so then checking out of 
CVS would ever be.

Now - I'm having some problems with doing so, which makes me think your last 
decleration may not be so true (especially the "easy" part). specificly I'm 
currently stuck with these problems, and I do hope someone can comment on how 
I can resolve this issues:

- edje: autogen.sh does not work. the autogen.sh script looks nothing like the 
scripts for the other libraries, and bash complains about all the curly 
braces in the checks in the front. I can't tell what the problem as I'm not 
familiar with this syntax - I don't even think its valid bash. The m4 
directory is also missing.
- imlib2 does not build - it fails finding any files for the imlib-loader_gif 
sub-package.
- imlib2_loaders does not have a spec file - it has a spec.in file. is the 
spec file supposed to be generated by the configure scripts ? that's kind of 
useless as configure is supposed to be run from the spec file.
- I failed to build etox, but I don't think its RPM specific. I'll investigate 
more and write about it later.

Also, issues general to all the libraries:
- In all the libraries, autogen.sh by deafult runs configure (while the 
comment above it implies that it is commented out, which is not the case). as 
the order of building RPMs (AFAIU) is - autogen, rpmbuild (which runs 
configure, make and make install), that step is redundant. I currently solve 
this by automaticly "fixing" the autogen.sh script in my build process.
- All the spec files are missing BuildRequires tags that are needed to force a 
build order - other wise users can try to build packages out of order and 
fail. the BuildRequires tag is supposed to help users by letting them know 
what they need before spending a lot of times (sometimes a couple of hours) 
on a build that would fail.

I haven't tried to compile all the libraries as I got stuck on imlib2 and edje 
which most other libs depend on. 

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Re: [e-users] can't get embryo_cc to work

2004-07-26 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 26 July 2004, at 23:26:25 (+0200),
Andreas Volz wrote:

> And if the the questioner has a RPM based distribution you could
> perhaps use gentoo's feature to create RPM's with ebuild. I wonder
> why nobody yet uses this feature from gentoo to create (unofficial)
> RPM packages from E17 CVS?

Because the resulting packages would be completely useless.  There's a
reason you can't necessarily use FC2 RPM's on a RH9 box and vice
versa.  Gentoo, Debian, and any other system capable of producing
RPM's has the same problem.

The spec files for all the EFL libs are clean and working.  RPM's are
easy to build, no Gentoo required.

Michael

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Re: [e-users] can't get embryo_cc to work

2004-07-26 Thread Andreas Volz
Am Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:37:01 -0700 (PDT) schrieb Jonathan Charnas:

> I'm not sure what's wrong, but if you have gentoo you can emerge the
> tarballs from portage and that will work. It's not a bugfix, but I
> assume you're not a developper (I'm probably wrong since you've
> tracked the errors in the code), and I further assume you only want to
> use the programs. So, if you don't use gentoo I'd be happy to download
> the tarballs and post them on my website for you temporarily. I know
> the portage tarballs compile cleanly, at least so far, and that
> includes entrance and entice.
> Another solution would be to go in #e and find out if someone has a
> more complete answer to your question.

And if the the questioner has a RPM based distribution you could perhaps
use gentoo's feature to create RPM's with ebuild. I wonder why nobody
yet uses this feature from gentoo to create (unofficial) RPM packages
from E17 CVS? It's very easy to do, because Gentoo is well supported.

regards
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Re: [e-users] can't get embryo_cc to work

2004-07-26 Thread Jonathan Charnas
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I downloaded yesterday most EFL libraries and some applications from
> CVS.  
> The libraries compiled fine, but when I tried to compile Entice and  
> Entrance I got the following error:
> 
> ...
> edje_cc: Wrote  1743 bytes (   2Kb) for "images/42" image entry  
> "border-bevel.png" compress: [raw: 44.4%] [real: -39.8%]
> edje_cc: Wrote 11695 bytes (  11Kb) for "collections/0" collection  
> entry
> edje_cc: Wrote  1284 bytes (   1Kb) for "collections/1" collection  
> entry
> edje_cc: Wrote   625 bytes (   1Kb) for "collections/2" collection  
> entry
> embryo_cc: embryo_cc_sc1.c:2227: funcdisplayname: Assertion `tagsym[1]
> !=  
> ((void *)0)' failed.
> 6
> edje_cc: Warning. Compiling script code not clean.
> make[3]: *** [default.eet] Fehler 255
> make[3]: *** Warte auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse...
> ...
> 
> So, I tried this and that, and found, that I couldn't even compile the  
> example in the embryo/examples directory, i.e.
> 
> embryo_cc -oexample.sma example.amx
> 
> gave the same error as above. Not even the empty file compiles. Messing 
> 
> around a bit with the embryo_cc sources I tracked down (a possible  
> manifestation of) the problem, which is the parsing of "default.inc". It
>  
> seems, in embryo_cc_sc1.c funcdisplayname() gets called from  
> operatoradjust() shortly before a "symbol already defined" error. If I
> got  
> it right, it happens while parsing
> 
> native Float:operator*(Float:oper1, Float:oper2) = float_mul;
> 
> in the hidden calls section in default.inc. So, after some more tries,  
> with everything from that line on commented out, it compiled the
> example,  
> but when making Entice for example I get now "tag mismatch" errors. Not 
> 
> that I had hoped much that this obscure "workaround" would actually  
> work... However, I'm at a loss of what to do next.
> 
> Anybody has any idea what could be wrong?
> 
> Marc

I'm not sure what's wrong, but if you have gentoo you can emerge the
tarballs from portage and that will work. It's not a bugfix, but I assume
you're not a developper (I'm probably wrong since you've tracked the
errors in the code), and I further assume you only want to use the
programs. So, if you don't use gentoo I'd be happy to download the
tarballs and post them on my website for you temporarily. I know the
portage tarballs compile cleanly, at least so far, and that includes
entrance and entice.
Another solution would be to go in #e and find out if someone has a more
complete answer to your question.

Cheers
John

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[e-users] can't get embryo_cc to work

2004-07-26 Thread mai98gkp
Hello all,
I downloaded yesterday most EFL libraries and some applications from CVS.  
The libraries compiled fine, but when I tried to compile Entice and  
Entrance I got the following error:

...
edje_cc: Wrote  1743 bytes (   2Kb) for "images/42" image entry  
"border-bevel.png" compress: [raw: 44.4%] [real: -39.8%]
edje_cc: Wrote 11695 bytes (  11Kb) for "collections/0" collection  
entry
edje_cc: Wrote  1284 bytes (   1Kb) for "collections/1" collection  
entry
edje_cc: Wrote   625 bytes (   1Kb) for "collections/2" collection  
entry
embryo_cc: embryo_cc_sc1.c:2227: funcdisplayname: Assertion `tagsym[1] !=  
((void *)0)' failed.
6
edje_cc: Warning. Compiling script code not clean.
make[3]: *** [default.eet] Fehler 255
make[3]: *** Warte auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse...
...

So, I tried this and that, and found, that I couldn't even compile the  
example in the embryo/examples directory, i.e.

embryo_cc -oexample.sma example.amx
gave the same error as above. Not even the empty file compiles. Messing  
around a bit with the embryo_cc sources I tracked down (a possible  
manifestation of) the problem, which is the parsing of "default.inc". It  
seems, in embryo_cc_sc1.c funcdisplayname() gets called from  
operatoradjust() shortly before a "symbol already defined" error. If I got  
it right, it happens while parsing

native Float:operator*(Float:oper1, Float:oper2) = float_mul;
in the hidden calls section in default.inc. So, after some more tries,  
with everything from that line on commented out, it compiled the example,  
but when making Entice for example I get now "tag mismatch" errors. Not  
that I had hoped much that this obscure "workaround" would actually  
work... However, I'm at a loss of what to do next.

Anybody has any idea what could be wrong?
Marc
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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Jonathan Charnas
--- "Rodolfo M. Raya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 05:51, Kai Edinger wrote:
> > > dont use nautilus. it goes and changes it. nautilus is part of gnome
> and thus
> > > does everything the gnome way.
> > 
> > Sorry for this offtopic question, but do you have a littel tip, what
> to
> > use in place of it?
> 
> You can use konqueror (KDE's file manager). Works well for me.
> 
> Rodolfo
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> 
>

Or you can use evidence, which uses the EFL and integrates beautifully
with 16.6/7pre. Evidence is much nicer looking than konqueror or nautilus
anyways. And you don't need qt or gtk for it either. Much lighter if you
use E.

 
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Re: [e-users] Una pregunta mas...![Questions from a Spanish user!]

2004-07-26 Thread Jonathan Charnas
--- Didier Casse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>  I received an email (see below )from a Spanish user asking
> some questions about E. Unfortunately he can't write in English to the
> list.
> 
> I'll translate roughly the questions as far as I understand it!:
> 
> 1. How can I create or place icons of Gimp, Gaim, Evolution, etc.. in
>Engage so that I can execute them?
> 
> Well my understanding of "engage" is that it reads the programs running
> on
> the desktop and displays them. Am I correct in saying that? If you
> really
> want to place executable icons, it should be done in iconbar. I'll
> feedback the answers to him.

You can configure the Engage static buttons. Yes it does read from the
apps from the desktop, but there's also a list of "always there" icons.
They're configured in ~/.e/apps/engage/applinks and the Text and icon
config goes in ~/.e/apps/engage/mappings. The one thing relating the
icon+text config to the actual presence of the button in engage is the
Window Class. Be sure to read that when opening the "remember" dialog box
and typing it as is, it's case sensitive too. For mozilla, it'll be
Mozilla-bin, gimp will be Gimp-2.0 (for version 2.0 of course, 1.2 is just
Gimp I think), gaim is Gaim, evolution is Evolution, etc... just read them
off as you edit your mappings/applinks files.

> 
> 2. When will the DR17 project come to an end?
> 
> Well this one I know what to answer. It has been repeated so many times
> so
> no need to answer that.

well obviously if he doesn't know english, maybe you should translate it
to spanish for him, so he can then answer other spanish speakers, because
it might just be that for a spanish-speaking only user it's not as evident
as it is for us. 

> 3. If I can help in some ways, please let me know...
> 
> Hmm guess this one depends on the skill of the person. But not knowing
> English is a drawback for communication to the developers! I'll think
> about this one
> 

True, lack of english is a drawback. However, I do think that C is the
same in spanish as it is in english. So he can still do bugfixes or
patches, and submit them without knowing english. True, it'll be hard to
know what they do. But if it's good code, well, I suppose just reading it
through will tell you what it does, no?

> I encourage other Spanish users who have something to say to write back
> to
> the guy directly (and perhaps cc me!).
> 
> For others, write in English and I'll translate.

Yeah, that's me. I don't know how to speak spanish... 

> Gees sometimes I think we need some mailing lists in other languages.

I'm with you there. Maybe an internalization of enlightenment.org would
help too. I'd be willing to do the french translation of it. I'm (almost)
perfectly bilingual. And I suppose with the help of a dictionary I could
put a german version together as well. (well, dictionary & grammar
book...)
 

> Cheers,
> Didier.
> 
> 

Regards,
John

> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:25:20 -0400
> From: Andres Morales 
> To: Didier Casse
> Subject: Una pregunta mas...!
> 
> Estimado Didier Casse
> 
> 
> Gracias por responderme el correo...! debes ser una persona muy
> ocupada y no quiero molestarte con mis preguntas sobre el proyecto
> Enlightenment...! pero tengo varias dudas...!
> 
> 1. Como puedo crear o colocar iconos de ejecución de programas como
> Gimp, Gaim, Evolution, etc. En "Engage"!
> 2. Cuando crees que Enlightenment DR17 estará terminado...!
> 3. Si puedo ayudar en algo como podría!
> 
> Quisiera recomendar que vendieran gorras (cap)...!
> 
> 
> Atentamente Andrés Morales.
> Maracaibo 25/7/2004, Venezuela.
> 
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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Rodolfo M. Raya
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 05:51, Kai Edinger wrote:
> > dont use nautilus. it goes and changes it. nautilus is part of gnome and thus
> > does everything the gnome way.
> 
> Sorry for this offtopic question, but do you have a littel tip, what to
> use in place of it?

You can use konqueror (KDE's file manager). Works well for me.

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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Peter C Davis
ack... grumble.  and i've been fighting this for some time!  thanks

BTW: love E... 

--- peterd


On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 05:45, Didier Casse wrote:
> On 26/07/04, at 10:00 +0100, Andrew Elcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >[...]
> > Nautillus has a --no-desktop option or similar listed in help which will
> > switch this off. There is also somewhere in gconf I belive, but raster
> > does have a point - use evidence! ;)
> >
> 
> Better still is to place something like this in your ~/.bashrc file:
> 
> -
> alias nautilus='nautilus --no-desktop'
> -
> 
> so that next time you load nautilus, well it won't mess up w/ your
> desktop!
> 
> Don't forget to do a "source ~/.bashrc" if you don't plan to reboot. :-)
> 
> 
> With kind regards,
> 
> Didier.
> 
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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Didier Casse
On 26/07/04, at 10:00 +0100, Andrew Elcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>[...]
> Nautillus has a --no-desktop option or similar listed in help which will
> switch this off. There is also somewhere in gconf I belive, but raster
> does have a point - use evidence! ;)
>

Better still is to place something like this in your ~/.bashrc file:

-
alias nautilus='nautilus --no-desktop'
-

so that next time you load nautilus, well it won't mess up w/ your
desktop!

Don't forget to do a "source ~/.bashrc" if you don't plan to reboot. :-)


With kind regards,

Didier.

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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Kai Edinger
Anselme schrieb:
hi Everybody,

I use enligthenment 0.16.6 on a FreeBSD 4.10 and I realy enjoy it :)
My problem is when I start nautilus ... I'd like use this graphical file
manager but when I start it my descktop background change and I got the
gnome one ... :( 
 

start nautilus with parameter --no-desktop like this:
	nautilus --no-desktop --sm-disable file:///home/edinger 

this works fine on my system ( enlightenment 0i.16.7 pre5 on SuSE 9.1)
Kai
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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Domnul Castor
Anselme wrote:
hi Everybody,

I use enligthenment 0.16.6 on a FreeBSD 4.10 and I realy enjoy it :)
My problem is when I start nautilus ... I'd like use this graphical file
manager but when I start it my descktop background change and I got the
gnome one ... :( 

Any idea how change this ?
Thank you in advance for any help
 

try nautilus --no-desktop :)
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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Andrew Elcock
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:55:27 +0200 Anselme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
My problem is when I start nautilus ... I'd like use this graphical file
manager but when I start it my descktop background change and I got the
gnome one ... :( 

dont use nautilus. it goes and changes it. nautilus is part of gnome and thus
does everything the gnome way.

Any idea how change this ?
Nautillus has a --no-desktop option or similar listed in help which will
switch this off. There is also somewhere in gconf I belive, but raster
does have a point - use evidence! ;)


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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Kai Edinger
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:40:33PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:55:27 +0200 Anselme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> 
> > hi Everybody,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I use enligthenment 0.16.6 on a FreeBSD 4.10 and I realy enjoy it :)
> > 
> > My problem is when I start nautilus ... I'd like use this graphical file
> > manager but when I start it my descktop background change and I got the
> > gnome one ... :( 
> 
> dont use nautilus. it goes and changes it. nautilus is part of gnome and thus
> does everything the gnome way.

Sorry for this offtopic question, but do you have a littel tip, what to
use in place of it?

Kai
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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread The Rasterman
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[e-users] nautilus2

2004-07-26 Thread Anselme
hi Everybody,



I use enligthenment 0.16.6 on a FreeBSD 4.10 and I realy enjoy it :)

My problem is when I start nautilus ... I'd like use this graphical file
manager but when I start it my descktop background change and I got the
gnome one ... :( 

Any idea how change this ?

Thank you in advance for any help

-- 
Anselme Lapinot :)



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Re: [e-users] Una pregunta mas...![Questions from a Spanish user!]

2004-07-26 Thread Andreas Volz
Am Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:27:34 +0800 (SGT) schrieb Didier Casse:

> Gees sometimes I think we need some mailing lists in other languages.

Yes I think it would be enhance the E community. Perhaps with the idea
to discuss E localization on this language specific list? I would like
to talk in german to people who are interested in translating E better
to german.

regards
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