[e-users] e16-0.16.8.9

2007-08-11 Thread Kim Woelders
e16 version 0.16.8.9 is now available for download:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2

e16-0.16.8.9:
- Fix edge flipping after desk switch.
- Avoid area switch when activating window that is mostly
 offscreen.
- Move menus in menus.cfg to simple files.
- Add non-server-grabbing box/technical move/resize modes.
- Always focus unfocused window when clicked.
- Fix bug in left/top resizing when returning to starting point.
- Fix alternative composite manager mode of operation
 (compmgr.mode = 1). Using this mode fixes a number of problems
 seen with override-redirect client windows, e.g. xlock not
 receiving key presses.
- Get rid of spurious tooltips.
- Remove excessive flip check limiting minimum time between
 edge flips.
- By default use Xft font configuration in core themes.
- Fix rendering vertical (-down) text.
- Optionally use pango for font rendering.
- Various minor bug fixes and enhancements, see ChangeLog for details.

/Kim



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Re: [e-users] Does E DR17 have a think like KDE's kdesktop?

2007-08-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:54:43 -0500 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Greetings.
 
 I stop in and try out Enlightenment every year or so.  I always think
 happily of the E DR13.  It is the program that made me want to use
 Linux in the first place.  My favorite part was the pager--small
 old-fashioned televisions showing desktops, with spotlights that
 pointed at the active desktop.  There has never been another program
 that represented such originality.
 
 I'm wondering if there is a background manager in E now that will make
 it easier to use edje objects.  In the KDE desktop, there's a desktop

in e17 wallpapers ARE edje objects. the desktop is a window (overlayed over
root) by e. you don't see the root window in e17. e17 itself controls your
desktop bg with an iron fist :) it's part of the wm and under the wm's control.
desktop icons are there now as part of the filemanager code in e17. any
module in e17 can extend the wm and as a result - can find where e keeps its
desktop canvases (look into the managers then the containers in each mnager -
and each container has zones). modules are just code and can create any objects
they like, from anywhere and do anything.

 manager called kdesktop wallpaper and you can set it to run slideshows
 on collections of directories--it randomly shows jpg files at
 intervals you specify.The last time I tried E, I could not find a
 brain-free way to do that, and had to write some code to talk to the E
 environment.  Even then, the small jpg files got turned into huge
 uncompressed edje files that filled up my home directory.

edje files are compressed. they also STORE the image in the file so you include
a wallpaper -t he image itself gets inlined (there are various compression
schemes from RAW (no compression) to COMP (zlib - no loss in quality) and LOSSY
(jpeg compression - inlined into the .edj). the .edj is stand-alone and
independent - it does not require any files outside - not the original wallpaper
or anything. that's why its big - you can email your .edj to a friend - and it
will work. out of the box. nothing left to do.

it IS possible to have a .edj refer to an image externally - if you really
want, but now you can easily break the wallpaper by moving/deleting the
original image and you can't just send your designs to your friends as the .edj
depends on another file in a particular path in your filesystem. the encoding
scheme for these is USER (as opposed to COMP, RAW and LOSSY). not with LOSSY
you also provide a quality parameter - this determines how much compression you
get. e17's wallpaper import dialog lets you choose this - so it is up to you
how big these things should be. the choices are there.

as for a slideshow - this could be done by a fairly simple module. yes. it
needs code. the main point for us here in development is that we have all the
hooks there needed to make this possible. we can't go write some module/feature
for every single thing someone may want. we cater for the most desired,
necessary and important ones. we need to focus on these and the core - and get
that right. all the 11 features people want - we can worry about later or
others can fill in the gaps already via modules.

 -- 
 Paul E. Johnson
 Professor, Political Science
 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
 University of Kansas
 
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Re: [e-users] how to create the edj files using existing image

2007-08-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:19:31 -0500 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 In the graphical interface for the background, I noticed the option to
 use an existing image.
 
 I notice a wonderful effect in my backgrounds directory--the first two
 edj files are not massive!  The last two are the usual big ones.
 
 -rw-rw-r--  1 pauljohn pauljohn1450 2007-08-06 12:34 Sea.edj
 -rw-rw-r--  1 pauljohn pauljohn1470 2007-08-06 12:40 Mtn.edj
 -rw-rw-r--  1 pauljohn pauljohn 1652111 2007-08-07 00:20 Ocean.edj
 -rw-rw-r--  1 pauljohn pauljohn  317395 2007-08-06 13:23 City.edj
 
 Can somebody please tell me a scriptable way to create these smaller
 edj files?  The only way I know now to create edj files is e17setroot,
 and it always makes the huge ones.  If I could create the edj files,
 then I could run a script to randomly change backgrounds in E17

see my other mail - the image encoding is USER instead of COMP, LOSSY etc.
check the .edc. nb - i just fixed edje_decc to properly ignore USER provided
images when decompiling - so it should work now.

 pj
 
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 University of Kansas
 
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Re: [e-users] strange but nice bling bug

2007-08-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:01:55 -0300 Wido [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi there you all. The other day  somehow bling make than a shelf (only
 one of three i have) became translucense, it was a nice effect but i
 lost it when restart E. Is there a way to make shelf translucent with
 bling?

well enable composite support in e17, use bling and use a theme that has a
semi-transparent theme for the shelf (or make your own).

 btw: i'm using E 0.40 from cvs with cthulhain theme, and the shelf
 only contained ibar and has cthulhain's theme too
 
 thanks to all!!!
 -- 
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