Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of vmware-player-W8.png). I do not understand what may occur. because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm startup id. to check the startup id: $ xprop | grep ID _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = E_START|133 (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of vmware-player-W8.png). I do not understand what may occur. because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm startup id. to check the startup id: $ xprop | grep ID _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = E_START|133 (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window created is just a new window event from x. there is no link between the window appearing and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that link. the most accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next best is the netwm PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was launched by e in ibar is the same pid that creates the window and sets the pid property on it - for firefox and chromium this is not the case and unless they support the startup id property (last i checked chromium does not), then this can't/doesn't work. we cant figure out which icon you clicked on that launched the window that you see. if we can figure it out - we match them up. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On 05/14/2014 09:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of vmware-player-W8.png). I do not understand what may occur. because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm startup id. to check the startup id: $ xprop | grep ID _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = E_START|133 (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window created is just a new window event from x. there is no link between the window appearing and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that link. the most accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next best is the netwm PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was launched by e in ibar is the same pid that creates the window and sets the pid property on it - for firefox and chromium this is not the case and unless they support the startup id property (last i checked chromium does not), then this can't/doesn't work. we cant figure out which icon you clicked on that launched the window that you see. if we can figure it out - we match them up. I see, so maybe, there is a solution by modifying the .desktop file which could start a bash file that will provide some ID then start the application..? -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
On Wed, 14 May 2014 11:23:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: On 05/14/2014 09:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of vmware-player-W8.png). I do not understand what may occur. because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm startup id. to check the startup id: $ xprop | grep ID _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = E_START|133 (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window created is just a new window event from x. there is no link between the window appearing and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that link. the most accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next best is the netwm PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was launched by e in ibar is the same pid that creates the window and sets the pid property on it - for firefox and chromium this is not the case and unless they support the startup id property (last i checked chromium does not), then this can't/doesn't work. we cant figure out which icon you clicked on that launched the window that you see. if we can figure it out - we match them up. I see, so maybe, there is a solution by modifying the .desktop file which could start a bash file that will provide some ID then start the application..? you can't. well you could do it with an ld_preload and trap the window create and then force a property to be added - but no such ld_preload has been written and it wont work for setuid apps. e already provides the id in an environment variable as per freedesktop.org specs - some apps support it. efl always supports it as its done in the toolkit if the app likes it or not. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Strange icon display in iBox.
:( Thank you :) On 05/14/2014 01:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2014 11:23:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: On 05/14/2014 09:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2014 09:37:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: On 05/11/2014 01:43 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 03 May 2014 12:27:38 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: I have 2 desktop files vmware-player-XP.desktop and vmware-player-W8.desktop They appear without problem in the iBar,each one with its own icon. I start vmware-player-W8.desktop, iconize it, and it appears in the ibox but with the icon of vmware-player-XP.desktop. (instead of vmware-player-W8.png). I do not understand what may occur. because icons are not provided by the app but are matched. matched by a seies of guesses, each one getting less accurate as you fall back. the mo9st accurate is via netwm startup id, and this is an env var set when app is launched. it is the job of the app to set the string content pf that env var as a property on the window. my bet is vmware doesnt do this, so e is falling back to matching commandline executable (vmware) which is ambiguous. it may match class name too. so... may a copy or symlink and use a different executable or complain to vmware about netwm startup id. to check the startup id: $ xprop | grep ID _NET_STARTUP_ID(UTF8_STRING) = E_START|133 (and click on the window you want to check - notice efl apps do this). I see. In my case, it should be easy as the application is started from the iBar, it would be logical to take the icon from .desktop file..? it doesn't quite work that way. application is launched but a window created is just a new window event from x. there is no link between the window appearing and the process running, UNLESS the process provides that link. the most accurate is the startup id as above as a property. the next best is the netwm PID property giving pid - that ASSUMES the pid that was launched by e in ibar is the same pid that creates the window and sets the pid property on it - for firefox and chromium this is not the case and unless they support the startup id property (last i checked chromium does not), then this can't/doesn't work. we cant figure out which icon you clicked on that launched the window that you see. if we can figure it out - we match them up. I see, so maybe, there is a solution by modifying the .desktop file which could start a bash file that will provide some ID then start the application..? you can't. well you could do it with an ld_preload and trap the window create and then force a property to be added - but no such ld_preload has been written and it wont work for setuid apps. e already provides the id in an environment variable as per freedesktop.org specs - some apps support it. efl always supports it as its done in the toolkit if the app likes it or not. -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] how to move a window...?
...when the upper bar is not visible ? How to force it to come back in the scrren? Thank you PC -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to move a window...?
I think alt-click-drag On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 09:40:35PM +0200, Pierre Couderc wrote: ...when the upper bar is not visible ? How to force it to come back in the scrren? Thank you PC -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0x9551CF2D -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to move a window...?
What about ALT + Click on the window and Drag it when you want? Il giorno mer, 14/05/2014 alle 21.40 +0200, Pierre Couderc ha scritto: ...when the upper bar is not visible ? How to force it to come back in the scrren? Thank you PC -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to move a window...?
if it is partially visible you can do it with ALT+Mouse1 if it is totally hidden outside the screen try menu - windows - cleanup windows -- Regards, Alex-P. Natsios (a.k.a Drakevr) -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to move a window...?
you can use alt+click, that's the common shortcut (which you can change if you don't like). I have also setup another shortcut for movement with win+one ofWASD, to move the window up|down|left|right. 2014-05-14 16:40 GMT-03:00 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu: ...when the upper bar is not visible ? How to force it to come back in the scrren? Thank you PC -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to move a window...?
Alt Yomi On May 14, 2014 3:42 PM, Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu wrote: ...when the upper bar is not visible ? How to force it to come back in the scrren? Thank you PC -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
