Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-06-26 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

I rebooted, but no sounds from e.

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  Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:44:17 +0100

[CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:

[...]
MN> > But, it's a mystery for me.
MN> > Why the pulseaudio's settings problem is specific to me  ?

CH>  I don't know. All I can think of was pulseaduio not running (as
CH>  your user - not as root or some other user). All Enlightenment
CH>  does is talk to the pulseaudio daemon using libpluse - like you
CH>  use xlib to talk to the xserver.

I can fully understand wha you mean, I think.

But, pulsedaemon does always run just after booting.
Because,

1. After booting, I can always hear the switching on sound of mu USB
  DAC.

2. I always begin  the PC operation with starting music via audacious.



One question.

As a root, accessing to pulseaudio is always denied ;

# aplay /home/masaru/wav/Track\ 2.wav 
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/user/1000) is not owned by us (uid 0), but by uid 1000! 
(This could e.g. happen if you try to connect to a non-root PulseAudio as a 
root user, over the native protocol. Don't do that.)
ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Access 
denied

aplay: main:831: audio open error: Connection refused

Is this phenomena within your expectations?

Thanks.

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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-06-26 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 06:56:34 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  said:

> Hello,
> 
> Good Morning!
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
>   Message-ID : <20210626165027.0f8d446407232a45180fe...@rasterman.com>
>   Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 16:50:27 +0100
> 
> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
> 
> [...]
> MN> > Another incomprehensible...
>  
> MN> > Of a attached pic, the bottom part (under the Mute, and Lock
> MN> >  boxes), I can't operate at all. Is this right behaviour?
> 
> CH>  i see no attached image... :(
> 
> Ah, it's removed.
> 
> I found, the part, I mentioned. is the 'audio spectrum'.
> 
> But, it's a mystery for me.
> Why the pulseaudio's settings problem is specific to me  ?

I don't know. All I can think of was pulseaduio not running (as your user - not
as root or some other user). All Enlightenment does is talk to the pulseaudio
daemon using libpluse - like you use xlib to talk to the xserver.

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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-06-26 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

Good Morning!

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  Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
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  Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 16:50:27 +0100

[CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:

[...]
MN> > Another incomprehensible...
 
MN> > Of a attached pic, the bottom part (under the Mute, and Lock
MN> >  boxes), I can't operate at all. Is this right behaviour?

CH>  i see no attached image... :(

Ah, it's removed.

I found, the part, I mentioned. is the 'audio spectrum'.

But, it's a mystery for me.
Why the pulseaudio's settings problem is specific to me  ?

Thanks.

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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-06-26 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:59:52 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  said:

> Hello,
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
>   Message-ID : <20210626144355.07aa15df635cf54e1ced9...@rasterman.com>
>   Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:43:55 +0100
> 
> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
> 
> [...]
> CH>  > But strangely, after installing the new efl It turn into a failure
> CH>  > like this;
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > $ systemctl --user start pulseaudio.service 
> CH>  > Job for pulseaudio.service failed because the control process exited
> CH>  > with error code. See "systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service" and
> CH>  > "journalctl
> CH>  > --user -xe" for details.
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > Nevertheless, I can enjoy multimedias, as before.
> CH>  > Yes, pulseaudio daemon in running.
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > I've never experienced this until now.
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > Could you inform me of what happens?
> 
> CH>  I don't know. enlightenment just uses libpulse and pa library functions
> CH> to talk to pulseaudio.  this will have nothing to do with efl and it's
> CH> just enlightenment doing this directly.
> 
> I see.
> 
> Reboot solve the strange issue.
> But, no sound.
> 
> Another incomprehensible...
> 
> Of a attached pic, the bottom part (under the Mute, and Lock boxes), I
> can't operate at all. Is this right behaviour?

i see no attached image... :(

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[e-users] Solved! (Was: Re: How can I get system sounds?)

2021-06-26 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

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  Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
  Message-ID : <875yy0hdsn.wl-nom...@galaxy.dti.ne.jp>
  Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:59:52 +0900

[MN] == Masaru Nomiya  has written:

[...]
MN> Another incomprehensible...

MN> Of a attached pic, the bottom part (under the Mute, and Lock boxes), I
MN> can't operate at all. Is this right behaviour?

By changing the settings of pulseaudio via pavucontrol, I get sounds.
Sorry to bother you.

Thanks.

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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-06-26 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
  Message-ID : <20210626144355.07aa15df635cf54e1ced9...@rasterman.com>
  Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:43:55 +0100

[CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:

[...]
CH>  > But strangely, after installing the new efl It turn into a failure
CH>  > like this;
CH>  > 
CH>  > $ systemctl --user start pulseaudio.service 
CH>  > Job for pulseaudio.service failed because the control process exited with
CH>  > error code. See "systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service" and 
"journalctl
CH>  > --user -xe" for details.
CH>  > 
CH>  > Nevertheless, I can enjoy multimedias, as before.
CH>  > Yes, pulseaudio daemon in running.
CH>  > 
CH>  > I've never experienced this until now.
CH>  > 
CH>  > Could you inform me of what happens?

CH>  I don't know. enlightenment just uses libpulse and pa library functions to 
talk
CH>  to pulseaudio.  this will have nothing to do with efl and it's just
CH>  enlightenment doing this directly.

I see.

Reboot solve the strange issue.
But, no sound.

Another incomprehensible...

Of a attached pic, the bottom part (under the Mute, and Lock boxes), I
can't operate at all. Is this right behaviour?

Thanks.



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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-06-26 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 21:27:29 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  said:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm deeply impressed by your stylistic styles.
> I remind of a nice man in Sheffied.
> 
> Anyway,
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
>   Message-ID : <20210626092706.e622aa4aa6212a79dee0b...@rasterman.com>
>   Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:27:06 +0100
> 
> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
> 
> CH>  On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:27:27 +0900 Masaru Nomiya
> CH>  said:
> 
> CH>  > Hello,
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > I'm usung git efl/enlightenment on these environments;
> CH>  > 
> [...]
> CH>  > 
> CH>  >PS. I've already installed xine-lib 1.2.11.
> 
> CH>  we no longer support xine. most of the above options are also defaults.
> CH>  disabling gstreamer1 though has disabled emotion video support. it won't
> CH> work at all now. so video previews in e's file manager won't work, video
> CH> wallpapers won't work.
> 
> CH>  https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=efl-git#n65
> 
> CH>  those are the simple options i use when building the arch efl-git
> CH> package. ephysics has been disabled now by default (and no one has
> CH>  complained beyond the
> [...]
> CH>  needed for e to make it's mixer work. this audio support in efl enables
> CH>  ecore_audio lib api that allows edje (and any app using it) to make
> CH> sounds. e will by default enable the mixer and pulseaudio support. it
> CH> uses libpulse to talk to pulseaudio and what you see int he gui is what
> CH> pulseaudio tells e to show (what devices exist - the volume and so on).
> CH> so my guess is pulseaudio is not running for some reason.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Accordingly, I compiled the git efl.
> 
> But, no sounds ...
> 
> CH>  > With this, I chacked
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > 1. Emixer
> [...]
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > What's wrong with me, I wonder  (_ _?
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > Any other Tips?
> CH>  > 
> CH>  > Thanks.
> 
> CH>  is pulseaudio not running? pulseaudio 
> 
> Certainly.
> In fact, I could enjoy musics, videos, via audacious, vlc, mpd, etc.
> 
> But strangely, after installing the new efl It turn into a failure
> like this;
> 
> $ systemctl --user start pulseaudio.service 
> Job for pulseaudio.service failed because the control process exited with
> error code. See "systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service" and "journalctl
> --user -xe" for details.
> 
> Nevertheless, I can enjoy multimedias, as before.
> Yes, pulseaudio daemon in running.
> 
> I've never experienced this until now.
> 
> Could you inform me of what happens?

I don't know. enlightenment just uses libpulse and pa library functions to talk
to pulseaudio.  this will have nothing to do with efl and it's just
enlightenment doing this directly.

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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-06-26 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

I'm deeply impressed by your stylistic styles.
I remind of a nice man in Sheffied.

Anyway,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
  Message-ID : <20210626092706.e622aa4aa6212a79dee0b...@rasterman.com>
  Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:27:06 +0100

[CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:

CH>  On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:27:27 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  
said:

CH>  > Hello,
CH>  > 
CH>  > I'm usung git efl/enlightenment on these environments;
CH>  > 
[...]
CH>  > 
CH>  >PS. I've already installed xine-lib 1.2.11.

CH>  we no longer support xine. most of the above options are also defaults.
CH>  disabling gstreamer1 though has disabled emotion video support. it won't 
work
CH>  at all now. so video previews in e's file manager won't work, video 
wallpapers
CH>  won't work.

CH>  https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=efl-git#n65

CH>  those are the simple options i use when building the arch efl-git package.
CH>  ephysics has been disabled now by default (and no one has
CH>  complained beyond the
[...]
CH>  needed for e to make it's mixer work. this audio support in efl enables
CH>  ecore_audio lib api that allows edje (and any app using it) to make 
sounds. e
CH>  will by default enable the mixer and pulseaudio support. it uses libpulse 
to
CH>  talk to pulseaudio and what you see int he gui is what pulseaudio tells e 
to
CH>  show (what devices exist - the volume and so on). so my guess is 
pulseaudio is
CH>  not running for some reason.

Thanks!

Accordingly, I compiled the git efl.

But, no sounds ...

CH>  > With this, I chacked
CH>  > 
CH>  > 1. Emixer
[...]
CH>  > 
CH>  > What's wrong with me, I wonder  (_ _?
CH>  > 
CH>  > Any other Tips?
CH>  > 
CH>  > Thanks.

CH>  is pulseaudio not running? pulseaudio 

Certainly.
In fact, I could enjoy musics, videos, via audacious, vlc, mpd, etc.

But strangely, after installing the new efl It turn into a failure
like this;

$ systemctl --user start pulseaudio.service 
Job for pulseaudio.service failed because the control process exited with error 
code.
See "systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service" and "journalctl --user -xe" 
for details.

Nevertheless, I can enjoy multimedias, as before.
Yes, pulseaudio daemon in running.

I've never experienced this until now.

Could you inform me of what happens?

Thanks.

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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-06-26 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:27:27 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  said:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm usung git efl/enlightenment on these environments;
> 
> 1. OS : openSUSE Leap 15.3 RC (x86_64)
> 
> 2. kernel : 5.12.13-1.1-default
> 
> 3. Sound Card : Device [D & M Holdings Inc. HD-DAC1] on
> usb-:00:14.0-9/input2
> 
> 4. sound driver : usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
> 
> 5. Alsa : alsa-1.2.5.1-lp153.350.1.x86_64
> 
> 6. pulseaudio : pulseaudio-14.99.2-lp153.53.5.x86_64
> 
> 7. compilation options of efl :
> 
>meson \
>-Dphysics=true \
>-Devas-loaders-disabler=pdf,webp \
>-Dharfbuzz=true \
>-Dxinput22=true \
>-Demotion-loaders-disabler=gstreamer,gstreamer1,libvlc \
>-Dsystemd=true \
>-Dfb=true \
>-Ddrm=true \
>-Dwl=true \
>-Dopengl=es-egl \
>-Daudio=true \
>-Dedje-sound-and-video=true \
>-Dpulseaudio=true \
>-Dv4l2=true \
>-Dbuild-examples=true \
>-Dbuild-tests=true
> 
>PS. I've already installed xine-lib 1.2.11.

we no longer support xine. most of the above options are also defaults.
disabling gstreamer1 though has disabled emotion video support. it won't work
at all now. so video previews in e's file manager won't work, video wallpapers
won't work.

https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=efl-git#n65

those are the simple options i use when building the arch efl-git package.
ephysics has been disabled now by default (and no one has complained beyond the
only demo of ephysics now not able to run - but it was the demo...).

disabling pdf is probably not going to be good for thumbnailing of pfd's in efm
too - this will be broken now too. and the rest are dwefaults. the only things
you enabled that you should that are not default are that i used above:

1. fb -> this is specific to linux and fb (/dev/fb devices) are being
deprecated in linux in favor of drm/kms
2. drm -> this is linux specific and the newer framebuffer api, but as it's not
"universal" it's not on by default.
3. wl -> wayland is not on by default. it's too new to be considered universal.
4. i switched to lua from luajit because luajit seems to have some bugs on
arm64/aarch64 where it will crash on some workloads. lua is slower but it's
stable.
5. i disabled bindings, examples and tests just to get a faster build.
6. the network backend of connman is what e prefers but it otherwise is not
really that important.

otherwise defaults are pretty good and what you want. also -Dwl=true in
enlightenment will be something you want too if you are enabling it in efl.
otherwise pulseaudio etc. support will be on by default in efl. but this is not
needed for e to make it's mixer work. this audio support in efl enables
ecore_audio lib api that allows edje (and any app using it) to make sounds. e
will by default enable the mixer and pulseaudio support. it uses libpulse to
talk to pulseaudio and what you see int he gui is what pulseaudio tells e to
show (what devices exist - the volume and so on). so my guess is pulseaudio is
not running for some reason.

> With this, I chacked
> 
> 1. Emixer
> 
>   ? 1. playback panel displays nothing.
> 
> 2. enlightenmet_config
> 
>   ? 2. Audio panel diplays only mute buttons.
> 
> Nevertheless, I can't get system sounds at all.
> 
> What's wrong with me, I wonder  (_ _?
> 
> Any other Tips?
> 
> Thanks.

is pulseaudio not running? pulseaudio 

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