Re: [e-users] transparent background in engage
Foxy wrote:
is it possible to do and how? I use a script from omicron's site to
compile E17...
Try the attached patch.
Christoph
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offset: -1 -1;
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image {
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Re: [e-users] Engage module question(s)
Alan Trick wrote: 1. Autohide itself (compare with Windows taskbar that will rase when the mouse pointer is dragged as far down as possible on the workspace and you'll get the idéa)? AFAIK this is not yet possible. How come? With the current code, not generally. The OP asks how to configure engage to autohide itself. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Engage module question(s)
Liliegren Daniel wrote: Is there a way (yet :-) to make the module version of Engage: 1. Autohide itself (compare with Windows taskbar that will rase when the mouse pointer is dragged as far down as possible on the workspace and you'll get the idéa)? AFAIK this is not yet possible. 2. Always be on top (when raised/visible)? This will not be possible until E18, since there's no true transparency support. If the above functions are possible it would greatly improve functionality, hence making Engage as usable as the Apple Dock which would be very nice. :-) Without the above functionality it is not so easy to work with maximized windows, which I would like to do from time to time. I use the SMART maximise policy. It will only maximise to the avaible space. $ enlightenment_remote -maximize-policy-set SMART Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] why entrance does not source /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ ?
phyrster wrote: I put some X settings in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/95-script but when I login into e17, I noticed that script is not sourced. But with gdm or wdm, the script is sourced automatically. Most probably because gdm and kdm were patched by debian to source /etc/X11/Xsession.d/. I'm using gentoo, and there's no such directory here. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] menu locks pointer to desktop
If a menu is open, the mouse pointer isn't allowed to move to another desktop. Why? The menu could automatically dissapear. Or even better just stay there until I click somewhere else, which makes it dissapear anyway. Sure there's a reason for the current behaviour. Could anyone enlighten me? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] menu locks pointer to desktop
David Stevenson wrote: This came up on the list once before - see the mail on the e-users list around September 9 entitled* Bug : open menu and desktop switching.* One thing I forgot to mention is that I'm experiencing this on Xinerama. I accidentally open a menu at the bottom of the first screen (where it is barely visible), and now I can't move the cursor to the other screen. This feels very wrong... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] selecting multiple checkboxes in menu
During the actual development phase everytime the E configuration gets updated, I'll have to redefine the remember-settings for all my apps. Nothing wrong with that, but I'd like to improve this procedure generally. I do Alt-RightMouse on the window, Remember, and select a checkbox. Now, the menu dissapears and I have to start from the beginning. I'd like to be able to press a modifier (Ctrl for example), to prevent the menu from closing after toggling a checkbox. This sounds like an easy fix, but I haven't already spent that much time reading the E source. So sorry for not sending a patch directly ;-) Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xscreensaver pops out messages
Alan Trick wrote: It's not a serious problem, but while the screensaver is running it keeps on popping out warnings about unrecognised message from root window WM_PROTOCOLS or something. Search the archives: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.enlightenment.user/4133 Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] randr module
Wim Borremans wrote: how does the randr module work? i've loaded and activated it, but i don't know how i can change the screen resolution. seems there's only an option to restore the screen resolution at start up. E17 Menu - Configuration - Resolution Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] randr module
Wim Borremans wrote: Op wo, 14-09-2005 te 16:56 +0200, schreef Christoph Gysin: Wim Borremans wrote: how does the randr module work? i've loaded and activated it, but i don't know how i can change the screen resolution. seems there's only an option to restore the screen resolution at start up. E17 Menu - Configuration - Resolution ok. this was quite a stupid question :-S Actually, it's not. AFAIK this is the first module that changes the E17 menu instead of adding a new GUI object on the desktop. But I like it! I just found it by accident... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] eesh
J. Erik Heinz wrote: I just started to play with eesh on e16. Really a awsome tool to play with... Is there a identical tool for e17? Not quite identical, but did you try enlightenment_remote? Christoph Gysin -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] scrolling desktops
The new modifications on the pager allow to scroll desktops with the mouse. Also there is a popup which displays all desktops and highlights the currently selected. - I'd like to completly hide the pager, and only show the popup, since it looks like the same thing to me. - To scroll desktops, I'd like to be able to scroll anywhere on the desktop, like i was used to in fluxbox (actually, that was the only feature I was missing when I went back to e16 ;-). Is this possible? Comments? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] keyboard shortcut
ridho muhammad wrote: i want to execute Eterm or other application by keyboard shortcut but i don't know how to create it..? The default shortcut for Eterm is ctrl-alt-insert. For everything else, read the userguide: http://www.get-e.org/User_Guide/English/_pages/3.1.html Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] ibox ??
jim lawrence wrote: What is ibox and whatr is it used for? It's an iconbox and it shows minimized (iconified) windows. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e-17 modules
Nestor wrote: I use Gentoo linux and I compile e_modules (from cvs of course). In my /usr/portage/distfiles i have this modules: flame, monitor, notes, snow, weather but I don't have it in my enlightenment menu. Anybody know why and how I can use this modules now ? $ enlightenment_remote -module-load module-name And btw, check the user-guide at: http://www.get-e.org/User_Guide/English/_pages/3.2.html Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage - love it
Ron Lau wrote: Any hope in the future or are modules destined to be underneath all windows. Modules are part of the desktop. They'll always be below all windows. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Nice screenshot, but what program is it?
Fernando Meira wrote: Thank you guys! It's looking great!! Although I haven't try it yet.. is it possible to have transparency over a animated bg? If so, I just run Esetroot over the main .png file? e17setroot also works with edje-backgrounds. It will make a snapshot of the edje and use it as the fake transparency background. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Nice screenshot, but what program is it?
Fernando Meira wrote: Oh.. ok.. I had the idea that it wouldn't work for edj files. I think I've tried before with no success.. probably messed up that time. I'll try it again, thanks. This feature is relativly new, very probably it wasn't possible the last time you checked... But, I don't know if I can use this so much as I wanted. This because when I start urxvt with transparent bg my CPU monitor goes crazy... it stays on 99%-100% for the all time I have the terminal open. Something that could be wrong? Definitly. I have 6 urxvt's open with transparent bg, CPU usage is under 1%... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Nice screenshot, but what program is it?
Fernando Meira wrote: Regarding the cpu-usage, I was using the following options: urxvt -tr -sh 95 -tint white +sb -geometry 100x32, and with this, the monitor fly to 101%! With urxvt -tr +sb it behaves much better.. I use: $ urxvt -rv +sb -tr -fade 70 -sl 5000 -tint white -sh 40 Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xscreensaver messages
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:40:36 -0400 Robert May [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Whenever I run xscreensaver I receive the following messages: xscreensaver: 12:39:27: 0: for window 0x22e (root) xscreensaver: 12:39:30: 0: unrecognised ClientMessage WM_PROTOCOLS received xscreensaver: 12:39:30: 0: for window 0x22e (root) xscreensaver: 12:39:31: 0: unrecognised ClientMessage WM_PROTOCOLS xscreensaver being noisy and not understanding the netwm ping protocol. it should just shut up and ignore it if it doesnt understand it. Actually, this is not correct. The NetWM spec says: A Client SHOULD indicate that it is willing to participate in this protocol by listing _NET_WM_PING in the WM_PROTOCOLS property of the client window. Quote from Jamie Zawinski, maintainer of xscreensaver: Obviously, xscreensaver has not indicated its desire to participate in this protocol, so I think it's an Enlightenment bug that these messages are getting sent. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Problem with the PATH variable
Alejandro Salas wrote: In my .bash_profile I add to the PATH a couple of apps, but enlightenment is running on a different environment, so my .bash_profile actions have no effect. That hasn't happened to me before, it's more or less the same .bash_profile I was using in my prior installation (Fedora Core 3), and I never had any problems. I tried setting the correct PATH in /etc/profile, but that didn't work either. Does anyone knows a solution?? You could source /etc/profile from your e17 session. My session looks like this: $ cat /etc/X11/Sessions/enlightenment-17 #!/bin/bash . /etc/profile exec /usr/bin/enlightenment-0.17 Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] eterm misbehaving with mozilla when pasting special chars
gimpel wrote: I tried it out again, and now both gaim and xterm behaves, while eterm turn æøå into ??a* I would appreciate any help solving this problem Eterm does not support utf-8 (yet) which i assume you are using on your system. See 'man Eterm' quite at the end for a list of available encodings If this is the case, you could use urxvt, a rxvt fork that supports unicode. It also supports most of Eterms features... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xscreensaver messages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'man patch' has some good info, but I guess what I'm really wanting to know is where to get information on the format of patch files so that i can understand better how to read them. I don't like the idea of just 'patch myfile' without knowing exactly whats getting changed, and the whole + lines add stuff and -lines remove stuff is not explanitory enough, as there seems to be more information in those files than just that. I could be wrong, thats why I'm asking for clarification. Actually, it's not much more than that. A patch is generated by diff, a tool to show only the differences of two files. The most common diff format is the unified diff, generated with: $ diff -u file1 file2 The output is then quite simple: --- driver/xscreensaver.c.orig2005-08-07 17:36:17.815261536 +0200 +++ driver/xscreensaver.c2005-08-07 17:37:08.644534312 +0200 This shows which files got diff'ed: In our case, I copied the original one to xscreensaver.c.orig and modified xscreensaver.c. But thats not interesting. All the patch command needs to know is that this patch applies to the file xscreensaver.c in the directory driver. You could also diff whole directories. In the output of the diff command, theres one such header for each file that has changed. @@ -1641,10 +1641,12 @@ This marks the part, where the two files differ: in file1, the part starts at line 1641 and is 10 lines long. in file 2 the part starts at the same offset (1641) but is 12 lines long. You can see that I've added two lines in the second file. if (hint.res_class) XFree (hint.res_class); } +/* fprintf (stderr, %s: %d: unrecognised ClientMessage \%s\ received\n, blurb(), screen, (str ? str : (null))); fprintf (stderr, %s: %d: for window 0x%lx (%s)\n, blurb(), screen, (unsigned long) w, wdesc); +*/ if (str) XFree (str); } The rest of the patch shows the actual difference, where added lines are marked with a '+', and removed lines are marked with a '-'. In the above example, I simply commented out the part that spits out the useless error message. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xscreensaver messages
Robert May wrote: Whenever I run xscreensaver I receive the following messages: xscreensaver: 12:39:30: 0: unrecognised ClientMessage WM_PROTOCOLS received xscreensaver: 12:39:30: 0: for window 0x22e (root) I will explain the problem to the xscreensaver maintainer, and submit a patch. Until the next release, here's a quick fix: --- driver/xscreensaver.c.orig 2005-08-07 17:36:17.815261536 +0200 +++ driver/xscreensaver.c 2005-08-07 17:37:08.644534312 +0200 @@ -1641,10 +1641,12 @@ if (hint.res_class) XFree (hint.res_class); } +/* fprintf (stderr, %s: %d: unrecognised ClientMessage \%s\ received\n, blurb(), screen, (str ? str : (null))); fprintf (stderr, %s: %d: for window 0x%lx (%s)\n, blurb(), screen, (unsigned long) w, wdesc); +*/ if (str) XFree (str); } Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] multiple engages
Andrew Elcock wrote: Is it possible to run multiple instances of the engage module? I would like them to show the same thing, but I want one on each of my monitors. Never mind, I stopped using xinerama for other reasons and now I can have 2 of them. Is there any way to disable a module on one screen and leave it on the other? If not, will there eventually be? modules - engage - config - container1 - (untick) enabled I use Xinerama, but e17 only shows Container0 for engage. For the pager module, I see Zone0 and Zone1 inside Container0 though. Does this have to do with my Xinerama configuration? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
Luke Albers wrote: I'm not sure if maybe I need to configure something before using engage, but when I just run engage I get this error, along with a big black box at the bottom of my screen: move 188 920 Esmart_Trans Error: Could not read root window pixmap property! Esmart_Trans Error: Cannot create transparency pixmap: no valid wallpaper and no background color set. am a system tray :) :) If you want to run the standalone engage, either set a background color or set a background pixmap with: $ Esetroot -scale your_background.png To set a background color instead of using pseudo transparency, take a look at the engage options: $ engage -h Also, If I enable the engage module, all I get is a thin vertical line at the bottom of my screen If you're using E17 you should only use the engage module. After loading... $ enlightenment_remote -module-load engage ...and enabling... $ enlightenment_remote -module-enable engage ...you can switch to 'edit mode' and resize and place the module to your liking. The icons in engage can be configured using Configuration-Menu Editor. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Problems with engage module
Guillermo Movia wrote: Hi, i've been using engage module in this days, but yesterday i update e17 and my engage module seems to work, but i can't see it. The icons appear in entangle, and it's show activated in the menu. The only thing i see is in the menu two entries for engage when it's activated: inside Configuration i had a) (unusued) b) Container 0. Rebuild enagage, restart e17. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Change Eterm window Class in the source
Ron Lau wrote: What I am getting at is I'd love to have Ibar use the Zooming/Stretching of Engage. So maybe Engage could have an option to turn off the 'window list' part like it turn off the status bar part, and just show the launchers. I also would really like a way to disable this feature. I did an ugly hack to disable it in the source, but that's not really a solution... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Change Eterm window Class in the source
Ron Lau wrote: I also would really like a way to disable this feature. I did an ugly hack to disable it in the source, but that's not really a solution... Christoph Really? hmm... and how exactly did you do that? Can you post it? As I said, this is really just a hack. It isn't neither perfect nor beautiful. If you restart e17, all running apps still get added to engage. It only prevents new windows from appearing in engage. patch: --- diff -u -r1.60 e_mod_main.c --- misc/engage/src/module/e_mod_main.c 3 Jul 2005 19:24:00 - 1.60 +++ misc/engage/src/module/e_mod_main.c 19 Jul 2005 13:17:26 - @@ -2541,5 +2541,5 @@ if (bd-client.icccm.class strcmp(bd-client.icccm.class, *cur) == 0) return 1; - return 0; + return 1; } --- Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 timeline (...!)
Martin Geisler wrote: You should send that to the list, not to me. I'm using gentoo ;-) If you're using Gentoo, how can you be afraid of compiling E17 yourself? I though Gentoo was all about compiling... ;-) When did I say that? As you can see from the headers, I'm not the OP. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Re: Entrance and Eterm
Mario D_ring wrote: Tomas Zulberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/05, Tomas Zulberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have been using e17 for a week on mi debian sid, and it rocks. I want to know how to two things: 1) how to disable de halt and reboot button form entrance to all normal users 2) How to change the default wm to enter? you have to edit the emtrance config via: edb_gtk_ed /etc/entrance_config.db There are 2 options for the halt and restart button. I prefer the script in /usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh to generate a entrance_config.db. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] after a month of using E17
Steve Torrefranca wrote: enlightenment_remote -edge-flip-timeout-set so that is how you configure the desktop thanks dude! am trying out a couple of enlightenment_remote options There will be graphical tools to setup most of the enlightenment_remote commands in the future. Until then, enlightenment_remote is your friend ;-) Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 timeline (...!)
Benjamin Stocker wrote: I'm also reading about E17 development. I know that this question is already answered in the FAQ, but I still would like to know: Will there be a alpha or beta version of E17 in nearst time? I ask this because I'm afraid of compiling the source and are looking forward to binary packages. (unofficial) SuSE 9.3 rpm's can be found here: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.3-i386/RPMS.suser-tux/ Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 timeline (...!)
Christoph Gysin wrote: (unofficial) SuSE 9.3 rpm's can be found here: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.3-i386/RPMS.suser-tux/ ..and for 9.2, under: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.2-i386/RPMS.suser-tux/ Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: Alt + right-click -- set stacking -- on top Is this possible in e17? If not, how would one prevent windows covering engage, the pager etc.? Alt + right-click -- Stacking -- Always on top The pager and engage (as module) are't windows, they're desktop modules and are therefor alyways below. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enlightenment_remote --maximize-policy-set SMART enlightenment_remote commands only start with one dash: $ enlightenment_remote -maximize-policy-set SMART This should make it so that 'maximizing' the windows still wont cover up your modules. It worked for me. Thanks for this one! That's what I was lookin for! Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
Felix S. Boecker wrote: How do you get engage as a module? I emerged e_modules (or whatever the package is called) but I still don't have anything but the default modules (ibar, start, battery, etc) in the modules menu. $ enlightenment_remote -module-load engage Then engage appears in the module menu. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
Felix Boecker wrote: I have engage ... when I run command engage I have engage running ... right now, I honestly couldn't care less about engage though, I don't like it drawing to the background (behind other windows), and seeing that that probably will not change, I'll just live without it. But supposedly there are other modules in the e_modules package (fire and some others I don't know about and would like to play with). I emerged e_modules successfully but the modules don't appear in the modules menu (except the defaults ibar, clock, starter, pager, etc). Do I need a different package altogether or do I need to do some weird hack or what am I doing wrong? You need to read my other post from 16:32. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] List configuration (was: Congifuring engage)
Peter Kjellerstedt wrote: Before doing that I would suggest reading: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html This is stupid. Conversations should take place on the list, so everyone can benefit from questions of other users. Adding a Reply-To will increase on-list discussions. If you really want to answer to the OP only, reply to all and delete the mailinglist address. But I'd say the default should be answering on-list. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] List configuration
Michael Jennings wrote: On Thursday, 07 July 2005, at 09:04:11 (+0200), Christoph Gysin wrote: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html This is stupid. Please don't quote me out of context. No it isn't. Just because you don't understand it or agree with it doesn't make it stupid. In fact, the guy is right. Unfortunately, raster is also right -- there are far too many ignorant, lazy, and/or careless users who cannot take the 2 seconds required to check the destination for the reply they're composing. That's exactly what i said. Unfortunatly you missed the part after the word stupid. This discussion has reached near-religious status, and it will never ever be settled. Fortunately my e-mail client is intelligent enough to reasonably cope with both settings. When I hit reply, it asks whether or not to honor the reply-to header. Or I can hit group-reply or list-reply to enforce the alternate behavior. Well, that's fine for you. But as I posted before, it's not a solution. So, to those of you complaining about the old behavior without the reply-to header pointing to the list, I have this to say: Get a reasonable mail client and learn to use it properly. And to those of you complaining about the new behavior with the reply-to header pointing to the list, I have this to say: Get a reasonable mail client and learn to use it properly. I'm only complaining about lots of information getting lost due to off-list discussion. I'd like to see a way to get people answering on-list per default. A reply-to pointing back to the list would definitly help. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] List configuration (was: Congifuring engage)
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: This leads to a question about the operation of this list. I had MANY off list responses. Is that the standard here? and if so, should there be a summary posting at the end of discussion? My experience on other lists is that we try to get every response into the list unless, of course, its an off topic tangential conversation. I have the same experience with lots of other lists. Lazy people simply press reply in their mail-client, which leads to responses to the OP directly. The gentoo mailinglists solve this by adding a Reply-To: in every mail header. If people just hit reply, they send it back to the list. Would it be possible to add this also on the e mailinglists? Is anybody else interested in this? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] List configuration
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I know some of the mail clients can set reply defaults for different address or different folders... I think you will agree that this is not a solution. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] rename eapp's and/or gawk .order files
Robert May wrote: Does anyone have the scripting talent to rename the eapp's and edit the .order files. I have over a thousand eapp's created but I am too much of a noobie to figure out how to rename them all. I tried: find ./ name *.eapp -execdir rename '*.eapp *.eap' /; $ find ~/.e -name *.eapp | xargs rename *.eapp *.eap $ find ~/.e -name .order | xargs sed -i 's/.eapp/.eap/' Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] rename eapp's and/or gawk .order files
Replying to myself again... Christoph Gysin wrote: $ find ~/.e -name *.eapp | xargs rename *.eapp *.eap This one is wrong. I shouldn't have copy-pasted the first proposal... It should be: $ find ~/.e -name *.eapp | xargs rename .eapp .eap ^ ^ Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Bug in engage
Der Lockruf des Kaos wrote: Everytime i hover over the engage Modul over the little Questionmarks of the big Questionmark named Unmachted, Enlightenment displays this Dialog F1 Ignor F2 Restart F3 Quit If i choose Restart i just get a new Enlightenment and can work on. This is reproducable Everytime i hover over one off this little green Questionmarks. I had exactly the same problem. The dialog that pops up tells you that e17 has segfaulted. It also tells you to rebuild e17 and the efl with debug support, reproduce it, and attach gdb to it to backtrace, etc.. After I updated CVS and rebuilt everything with debug support, the problem went away. So this probably fixed in current CVS? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Bug in engage
Der Lockruf des Kaos wrote: I have a Feature Request or perhaps it is already possible to do so: What about Always on Top for Engage? Now the Icons zoom on hovering over them, but they are hidden by any normal Window which near Engage. I asked the same question 3 days ago. It is not possible (yet). Christoph --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] e17 modules stacking
How can I make the engage module to be always on top? Is this not possible yet? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e17 modules stacking
Andrew Elcock wrote: Christoph Gysin wrote: How can I make the engage module to be always on top? Is this not possible yet? Modules are all always only on the desktop that is how we can support the nice alpha etc Hmm, I thought evas handles *real* transparency? For the engage module, the zoomed icons during mouse-over events disappear under existing windows. This does not look very nice... It should definitly be possible to stack modules on top of other windows. This would also make sense for the Notes- and Start-module. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop in alt-tab entry ??
mostart wrote: I'm running DR16 on Debian/Sarge. Works fine so far. But after switching from Woody to Sarge ans so to a newer E version I have this anoying 0 in my alt-tab list when switching windows. This symbolizes the current desktop I guess and really makes me mad. It is the name of your Pager, not your desktop. Does anybody know how I could get rid of this entry ? Alt-RightMouse - Toggle Skip Window List Alt-RightMouse - Remember - Window List Skip Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime info, new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
