Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:42:36 -0500 Felix Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: ok, I see ... running enlightenment_remote loads those modules ... so I take it that there is no code yet to load modules from the e_modules packages automatically like the default modules? are the e_modules kept in a separate directory? (for example, like themes placed into ~/.e/e/themes or backgrounds placed into ~/.e/e/background) as e doesn't know they exist until u load them - no. e wont go load every module it sees in every dir - it will load what u tell it to load. by default when it is installed it loads most of the modules that come with it to help you along with playing - but if it doesn't come with e it doesn't know about it thus will never by default load it. :) in the end i woule envisage 3rd party moduels come with an installer tool of their own a small program maybe with a nice gui wizard that goes to e and tells it to load the module - adds the module directory prefix if its not already in the module dir search path etc. i know this sounds windows like but its would make it MUCH easier for 3rd party module developers to make something that just builds and seamlessly installs by running its installer. i guess what it needs is just some examples and everyone then just copies and repeats. Thanks! This is really getting me somewhere now. Fx - Original Message - From: Christoph Gysin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:32:26 +0200 Felix S. Boecker wrote: How do you get engage as a module? I emerged e_modules (or whatever the package is called) but I still don't have anything but the default modules (ibar, start, battery, etc) in the modules menu. $ enlightenment_remote -module-load engage Then engage appears in the module menu. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users May the Source be with You! Felix -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait dernièrement que : Okay, I've got e17 compiled and running, made a few icons for the i-bar and done some menu stuff, starting to get a feel for it. Now, when I get to turning on Engage, I have a problem and can't seem to find a work-around. THe engage bar is HUGE. I'm running an old clunker at 640x480 (free monitor!) and the resultant icons take up almost the whole screen. Where can I modify the config for this? I looked at ~/.e/e/config/module.engage.cfg but it seems to be binary. you are using the standalone version of engage, which is deprecated. You should use the engage module, as it draws on the e17 desk, and benefit all gadman features for resizing and positioning. To load it: $ enlightenment_remote -module-load engage $ enlightenment_remote -module-enable engage (this step can be performed in the e17 Module entry menu. Regards, -- Mathieu --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
How do you get engage as a module? I emerged e_modules (or whatever the package is called) but I still don't have anything but the default modules (ibar, start, battery, etc) in the modules menu. Fx Mathieu wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait dernièrement que : Okay, I've got e17 compiled and running, made a few icons for the i-bar and done some menu stuff, starting to get a feel for it. Now, when I get to turning on Engage, I have a problem and can't seem to find a work-around. THe engage bar is HUGE. I'm running an old clunker at 640x480 (free monitor!) and the resultant icons take up almost the whole screen. Where can I modify the config for this? I looked at ~/.e/e/config/module.engage.cfg but it seems to be binary. you are using the standalone version of engage, which is deprecated. You should use the engage module, as it draws on the e17 desk, and benefit all gadman features for resizing and positioning. To load it: $ enlightenment_remote -module-load engage $ enlightenment_remote -module-enable engage (this step can be performed in the e17 Module entry menu. Regards, --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:30:38 -0400 Felix S. Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you get engage as a module? I emerged e_modules (or whatever the package is called) but I still don't have anything but the default modules (ibar, start, battery, etc) in the modules menu. Fx just emerge engage ;) pgpzb0BjsASlu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
Felix S. Boecker wrote: How do you get engage as a module? I emerged e_modules (or whatever the package is called) but I still don't have anything but the default modules (ibar, start, battery, etc) in the modules menu. $ enlightenment_remote -module-load engage Then engage appears in the module menu. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
I have engage ... when I run command engage I have engage running ... right now, I honestly couldn't care less about engage though, I don't like it drawing to the background (behind other windows), and seeing that that probably will not change, I'll just live without it. But supposedly there are other modules in the e_modules package (fire and some others I don't know about and would like to play with). I emerged e_modules successfully but the modules don't appear in the modules menu (except the defaults ibar, clock, starter, pager, etc). Do I need a different package altogether or do I need to do some weird hack or what am I doing wrong? Thanks! Fx - Original Message - From: gimpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:34:47 +0200 On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:30:38 -0400 Felix S. Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you get engage as a module? I emerged e_modules (or whatever the package is called) but I still don't have anything but the default modules (ibar, start, battery, etc) in the modules menu. Fx just emerge engage ;) 2.dat May the Source be with You! Felix -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
Felix Boecker wrote: I have engage ... when I run command engage I have engage running ... right now, I honestly couldn't care less about engage though, I don't like it drawing to the background (behind other windows), and seeing that that probably will not change, I'll just live without it. But supposedly there are other modules in the e_modules package (fire and some others I don't know about and would like to play with). I emerged e_modules successfully but the modules don't appear in the modules menu (except the defaults ibar, clock, starter, pager, etc). Do I need a different package altogether or do I need to do some weird hack or what am I doing wrong? You need to read my other post from 16:32. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
ok, I see ... running enlightenment_remote loads those modules ... so I take it that there is no code yet to load modules from the e_modules packages automatically like the default modules? are the e_modules kept in a separate directory? (for example, like themes placed into ~/.e/e/themes or backgrounds placed into ~/.e/e/background) Thanks! This is really getting me somewhere now. Fx - Original Message - From: Christoph Gysin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:32:26 +0200 Felix S. Boecker wrote: How do you get engage as a module? I emerged e_modules (or whatever the package is called) but I still don't have anything but the default modules (ibar, start, battery, etc) in the modules menu. $ enlightenment_remote -module-load engage Then engage appears in the module menu. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users May the Source be with You! Felix -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:42:36 -0500 Felix Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, I see ... running enlightenment_remote loads those modules ... so I take it that there is no code yet to load modules from the e_modules packages automatically like the default modules? are the e_modules kept in a separate directory? (for example, like themes placed into ~/.e/e/themes or backgrounds placed into ~/.e/e/ background) Thanks! This is really getting me somewhere now. Fx No, they just don't get loaded by default as every loaded module takes a certain amount of memory when it's loaded. So the goal is to keep that as low as possible and only enable some 'showcases' by default /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules_extra/ is the default dir for extra modules (at least gentoo's e_modules) pgpY9tUyFJkpC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
One more question then ... is there a text file I can edit to define what modules to load or not load at startup? For example, I don't want the temp or the CPU module, so there's no need for me to load them every time but the notes module is kinda useful but does not get loaded automatically. - Original Message - From: gimpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:53:17 +0200 On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:42:36 -0500 Felix Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, I see ... running enlightenment_remote loads those modules ... so I take it that there is no code yet to load modules from the e_modules packages automatically like the default modules? are the e_modules kept in a separate directory? (for example, like themes placed into ~/.e/e/themes or backgrounds placed into ~/.e/e/ background) Thanks! This is really getting me somewhere now. Fx No, they just don't get loaded by default as every loaded module takes a certain amount of memory when it's loaded. So the goal is to keep that as low as possible and only enable some 'showcases' by default /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules_extra/ is the default dir for extra modules (at least gentoo's e_modules) 2.dat May the Source be with You! Felix -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
How about enlightenment_remote --help OPTIONS: -h This help -help This help --help This help --h This help -display OPT1 Connect to E running on display 'OPT1' -module-load OPT1 Loads the module named 'OPT1' into memory -module-unload OPT1 Unloads the module named 'OPT1' from memory -module-enable OPT1 Enable the module named 'OPT1' -module-disable OPT1 Disable the module named 'OPT1' -module-list List all loaded modules Enabled means it will be loaded at startup disable means it will not be loaded at startup See here http://get-e.org/User_Guide/English/_pages/3.2.html On 7/25/05, Felix Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more question then ... is there a text file I can edit to define what modules to load or not load at startup? For example, I don't want the temp or the CPU module, so there's no need for me to load them every time but the notes module is kinda useful but does not get loaded automatically. - Original Message - From: gimpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:53:17 +0200 On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:42:36 -0500 Felix Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, I see ... running enlightenment_remote loads those modules ... so I take it that there is no code yet to load modules from the e_modules packages automatically like the default modules? are the e_modules kept in a separate directory? (for example, like themes placed into ~/.e/e/themes or backgrounds placed into ~/.e/e/ background) Thanks! This is really getting me somewhere now. Fx No, they just don't get loaded by default as every loaded module takes a certain amount of memory when it's loaded. So the goal is to keep that as low as possible and only enable some 'showcases' by default /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules_extra/ is the default dir for extra modules (at least gentoo's e_modules) 2.dat May the Source be with You! Felix -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492opclick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Registered Linux User: #376813 www.fedorajim.homelinux.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:29:36 -0500 Felix Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more question then ... is there a text file I can edit to define what modules to load or not load at startup? For example, I don't want the temp or the CPU module, so there's no need for me to load them every time but the notes module is kinda useful but does not get loaded automatically. just -load or -unload and -enable or -disable the modules that you want, e17 will remember those settings itself pgpWVTIIFzZa4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] Congifuring engage
ah, great ... i didn't know e remembered. Great! Thanks for all the help with this one! Fx gimpel wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:29:36 -0500 Felix Boecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more question then ... is there a text file I can edit to define what modules to load or not load at startup? For example, I don't want the temp or the CPU module, so there's no need for me to load them every time but the notes module is kinda useful but does not get loaded automatically. just -load or -unload and -enable or -disable the modules that you want, e17 will remember those settings itself --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Congifuring engage
Okay, I've got e17 compiled and running, made a few icons for the i-bar and done some menu stuff, starting to get a feel for it. Now, when I get to turning on Engage, I have a problem and can't seem to find a work-around. THe engage bar is HUGE. I'm running an old clunker at 640x480 (free monitor!) and the resultant icons take up almost the whole screen. Where can I modify the config for this? I looked at ~/.e/e/config/module.engage.cfg but it seems to be binary. thanks A --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
