Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 00:27:11 +0100 Walter Rudametkin rudamet...@gmail.com said: Hi everybody, I'm new to enlightenment but I'm really liking it so far. Nice work. However, after a couple of days playing with it I have a couple of things I'm having trouble configuring. 1) I would like windows to be brought up on the current desktop instead of the view being moved to the other desktop. For example, if I'm on desktop 1 and I select an app in the IBar or through a shortcut (e.g. tomboy--show notes) that's on desktop 4, I would like it brought up on current desktop. How should I configure that? no config option. this is how e works - no options. the app window is put WHERE you ran it. if u want it on the current desktop - run/launch it there. e does this to keep things consistent as to where they belong. it's especially useful for things that take a while to start like libreoffice, browsers etc. - you launch on a desktop - then switch somewhere else.. browser comes up where you launched it... as you'd expect, not suddenly appearing on the current desktop due to a launch event 10 seconds ago on another desktop 2) I would like to make custom keyboard shortcuts to : - change scaling (this is useful when I changing to a high-res monitor, laptop screen, or my TV especially if I'm far away) no such action. doesn't exist. - hide/show all shelves no such action. - change shelve sizes no such action. :) I do this in Xfce with xfconf and in Gnome with dconf, but enlightenment_remote and edbus don't seem to offer the same level of configuration. there just aren't any actions for what you want. what you REALLY want is not the above. the above is a workaround. you want e to remember specific scaling settings PER SCREEN. and per screen i literally mean that specific display device. remember such settings based on edid. there is a slight problem at the moment - e and elm only understand a single scaling factor. we need then to understand multiple scale factors (one per window for example). this is on my long todo list for fixups for multi screen handling. 3) How do you scale gtk apps like deluge or nemo? ask gtk devs/docs. sorry - no idea. 4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a third window is selected instead. Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or windows ? i think its a bi-product of mouse warping causing focus changes while it warps. 5) Why are icons in Task different and uglier than the icons in IBar for the same apps ? different bits of code hunting down the icon. 6) I have a transparent shelve but Task adds a small square background to icons too. you mean the entire background for each task button - the ehole thing including title text etc? that's just how tasks looks. it has nothing to do with the shelf background - the task gadget has its own look like every gadget does. your pager wont be transparent. your ibar icons wont be. your mixer won't be etc. - same for tasks. 7) Sometimes windows disappear when I try to move them by clicking on the titlebar or they don't appear when I open them. Changing desktops makes them come back most of the time, but sometimes I have to close them through the taskbar. A simple case to reproduce: - click on desktop, open settings - move to next desktop - click on desktop, open settings (window does not show) - however, the window does appear in the pager and the taskbar, but is otherwise not visible on the desktop - to make window visible, change to another desktop and come back. a bug. http://phab.enlightenment.org is there to file bugs (tasks) :) 8) I would like to have the entire titlebar do the same thing when left-clicking it instead of having just the top part of the bar resize and the lower part move. However, In Signal Binding Settings I can't set action params to do this. I need to set 'end' for mouse,up,1 on e.event.resize.t, but the params aren't editable. that would appear to be a bug. In case it helps, I'm on Archlinux using enlightenment 0.19.2-1. Happy holidays, Walter -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 04:09:29 +0100 Walter Rudametkin rudamet...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Happy new year! I fixed my alt+tab issue too, it was warp mouse while selecting as mentioned by Mick. Apparently if you have mouse warping on selection the focus setting is not taken into account. So, if you're using stack based windows with click to raise and want normal alt+tab behavior, then - Window Switcher Settings - Selecting - Focus - Window Switcher Settings - Selecting - Warp mouse while selecting must both be deactivated. THANKS, that improved my setup and is clearly correct. John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0xEFAF0D15 -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
On Wednesday 31 Dec 2014 01:31:54 Dave wrote: Should have read further down before my last reply. Looks like you're playing around with window switcher already. OK, you may want to try removing the warp mouse while selecting option. That's probably responsible for the selection behaviour you're observing. Basic explanation: - Original order: A, B, C, D, E - Press Alt-Tab. Selection order on screen: A, B (selected), C, D, E. Underlying order changed to B, A, C, D, E. This order applies if you press Alt-Tab from scratch. - Hold Alt, press Tab. Selection order on screen: A, B, C (selected), D, E. Underlying order: C, B, A, D, E. ... and so on. Follow it to its logical conclusion, and you'll get that order which you're seeing. The warp mouse while selecting should hopefully prevent the underlying order being changed, until you actually let go of Alt. Cheers, dave.k I fixed it - it wasn't the Window Switcher settings that controlled which windows were placed at the top of the Alt+Tab list. I went to: Settings/Windows/Window List Menu/Sort Order and selected 'Most Recently Used'. Previously it was set at 'None', which I think is the default. -- Regards, Mick -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
Hey guys, Happy new year! I fixed my alt+tab issue too, it was warp mouse while selecting as mentioned by Mick. Apparently if you have mouse warping on selection the focus setting is not taken into account. So, if you're using stack based windows with click to raise and want normal alt+tab behavior, then - Window Switcher Settings - Selecting - Focus - Window Switcher Settings - Selecting - Warp mouse while selecting must both be deactivated. It seems to me that warping should not cause windows to be selected if focus is unchecked, should I open a bug for that? Best regards, Walter On 31/12/14 10:27, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 31 Dec 2014 01:31:54 Dave wrote: Should have read further down before my last reply. Looks like you're playing around with window switcher already. OK, you may want to try removing the warp mouse while selecting option. That's probably responsible for the selection behaviour you're observing. Basic explanation: - Original order: A, B, C, D, E - Press Alt-Tab. Selection order on screen: A, B (selected), C, D, E. Underlying order changed to B, A, C, D, E. This order applies if you press Alt-Tab from scratch. - Hold Alt, press Tab. Selection order on screen: A, B, C (selected), D, E. Underlying order: C, B, A, D, E. ... and so on. Follow it to its logical conclusion, and you'll get that order which you're seeing. The warp mouse while selecting should hopefully prevent the underlying order being changed, until you actually let go of Alt. Cheers, dave.k I fixed it - it wasn't the Window Switcher settings that controlled which windows were placed at the top of the Alt+Tab list. I went to: Settings/Windows/Window List Menu/Sort Order and selected 'Most Recently Used'. Previously it was set at 'None', which I think is the default. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a third window is selected instead. Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or windows ? Settings-All-Windows-Window Switcher-Selecting : check focus and do not check raise Settings-All-Windows-Window List -Sort Order: Most recently used These are the best settings I've found to be able to toggle back and forth between most recently selected windows. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
On 30/12/14 12:32, John Holland wrote: 4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a third window is selected instead. Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or windows ? Settings-All-Windows-Window Switcher-Selecting : check focus and do not check raise Settings-All-Windows-Window List -Sort Order: Most recently used These are the best settings I've found to be able to toggle back and forth between most recently selected windows. I still get the same thing, I've tried with and without both focus and raise. I'm homing in on the issue though. The window switcher list (when you alt+tab) is not updated unless you click on the windows. Simply alt+tabbing through the windows does not update the recent-window list, that's why it starts on the wrong windows. It's more visible if you have a lot of windows open. Regards, Walter -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
I think if focus is selected when you alt tab to a window it's as if you clicked on it. On December 30, 2014 9:46:57 AM EST, Walter Rudametkin rudamet...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/12/14 12:32, John Holland wrote: 4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a third window is selected instead. Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or windows ? Settings-All-Windows-Window Switcher-Selecting : check focus and do not check raise Settings-All-Windows-Window List -Sort Order: Most recently used These are the best settings I've found to be able to toggle back and forth between most recently selected windows. I still get the same thing, I've tried with and without both focus and raise. I'm homing in on the issue though. The window switcher list (when you alt+tab) is not updated unless you click on the windows. Simply alt+tabbing through the windows does not update the recent-window list, that's why it starts on the wrong windows. It's more visible if you have a lot of windows open. Regards, Walter -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
Tried changing both focus and raise, same result, the list in the window switcher is not updated. So alt+tab is not equivalent to clicking. Maybe there's another option somewhere else? On 30/12/14 16:25, John Holland wrote: I think if focus is selected when you alt tab to a window it's as if you clicked on it. On December 30, 2014 9:46:57 AM EST, Walter Rudametkin rudamet...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/12/14 12:32, John Holland wrote: 4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a third window is selected instead. Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or windows ? Settings-All-Windows-Window Switcher-Selecting : check focus and do not check raise Settings-All-Windows-Window List -Sort Order: Most recently used These are the best settings I've found to be able to toggle back and forth between most recently selected windows. I still get the same thing, I've tried with and without both focus and raise. I'm homing in on the issue though. The window switcher list (when you alt+tab) is not updated unless you click on the windows. Simply alt+tabbing through the windows does not update the recent-window list, that's why it starts on the wrong windows. It's more visible if you have a lot of windows open. Regards, Walter -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
For me, if I alt tab to a window and release the alt tab, then alt tab to another window and release, and if I then alt tab, those two windows are at the top of the list. On December 30, 2014 10:50:51 AM EST, Walter Rudametkin rudamet...@gmail.com wrote: Tried changing both focus and raise, same result, the list in the window switcher is not updated. So alt+tab is not equivalent to clicking. Maybe there's another option somewhere else? On 30/12/14 16:25, John Holland wrote: I think if focus is selected when you alt tab to a window it's as if you clicked on it. On December 30, 2014 9:46:57 AM EST, Walter Rudametkin rudamet...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/12/14 12:32, John Holland wrote: 4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a third window is selected instead. Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or windows ? Settings-All-Windows-Window Switcher-Selecting : check focus and do not check raise Settings-All-Windows-Window List -Sort Order: Most recently used These are the best settings I've found to be able to toggle back and forth between most recently selected windows. I still get the same thing, I've tried with and without both focus and raise. I'm homing in on the issue though. The window switcher list (when you alt+tab) is not updated unless you click on the windows. Simply alt+tabbing through the windows does not update the recent-window list, that's why it starts on the wrong windows. It's more visible if you have a lot of windows open. Regards, Walter -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
On Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 16:28:48 John Holland wrote: For me, if I alt tab to a window and release the alt tab, then alt tab to another window and release, and if I then alt tab, those two windows are at the top of the list. In my set up (e18) this does not work. :-( The list order of windows stays the same regardless of the last window(s) I selected via Alt-Tab. -- Regards, Mick -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
I'm running e19 pretty up-to-date and that behaviour works well. Actually, now that I think about it, it has always work that way for me. I have selected focus, raise, scroll and both move pointer, the other are off. I think the test-case would be something like: * working on a window A (window is focused); alt-tab and start working in another window B (both pointer and focus are now in window B and window is above all); Next alt-tab goes back to window A * I have sloppy focus. If I move the pointer to another window C and then alt-tab it also goes back to window A. Doesn't matter how many windows I have as long as I don't move the cursor 2014-12-30 16:40 GMT-03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 16:28:48 John Holland wrote: For me, if I alt tab to a window and release the alt tab, then alt tab to another window and release, and if I then alt tab, those two windows are at the top of the list. In my set up (e18) this does not work. :-( The list order of windows stays the same regardless of the last window(s) I selected via Alt-Tab. -- Regards, Mick -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
I think you might be on to something, sloppy focus does have a different behavior, but it's still not, in my opinion, the expected behavior. Anyhow, I use click to focus and can't get to a normal focusing method. Here's my settings: Focus settings - Focus Poicy - Click New window focus - All windows Stacking Raise windows on mouse over (deactivated) Raise when moving/restarting (deactivated) Raise when reverting focus (deactivated) Window Switcher Settings Display Windows from other desks (deactivated) Windows from other screens (deactivated) Selecting Focus (deactivated) Raise (deactivated) Notice that Selecting-Focus and Selecting-Raise are both not activated. So let's say I have windows A, B, C, D and E open and the window switcher currently shows them in that order and window A is focused. If I alt+tab from A to E, I would expect the switcher to then show E,A,B,C,D in the list. However that's not what it shows. I get E, D, C, B, A instead which is not expected, and is the exact reversed list, meaning each window that I alt-tabbed through was thus somehow selected/focused. Is that clear? I think what is happening is that the the option WindowSwitcher-Selecting-Focus (deactivated) has no effect, it is in fact focusing the windows instead on each and every alt+tab, thus changing the switcher's list. Regards, Walter On 30/12/14 23:13, Wido wrote: I'm running e19 pretty up-to-date and that behaviour works well. Actually, now that I think about it, it has always work that way for me. I have selected focus, raise, scroll and both move pointer, the other are off. I think the test-case would be something like: * working on a window A (window is focused); alt-tab and start working in another window B (both pointer and focus are now in window B and window is above all); Next alt-tab goes back to window A * I have sloppy focus. If I move the pointer to another window C and then alt-tab it also goes back to window A. Doesn't matter how many windows I have as long as I don't move the cursor 2014-12-30 16:40 GMT-03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 16:28:48 John Holland wrote: For me, if I alt tab to a window and release the alt tab, then alt tab to another window and release, and if I then alt tab, those two windows are at the top of the list. In my set up (e18) this does not work. :-( The list order of windows stays the same regardless of the last window(s) I selected via Alt-Tab. -- Regards, Mick -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
It looks like you're having it sorted like stack and not a list. Honestly, not sure why sorry. Just to try, replicate my settings with selecting focus and raise activated and raise when reverting focus. But my guess is that one of the devs will have more info. 2014-12-30 20:36 GMT-03:00 Walter Rudametkin rudamet...@gmail.com: I think you might be on to something, sloppy focus does have a different behavior, but it's still not, in my opinion, the expected behavior. Anyhow, I use click to focus and can't get to a normal focusing method. Here's my settings: Focus settings - Focus Poicy - Click New window focus - All windows Stacking Raise windows on mouse over (deactivated) Raise when moving/restarting (deactivated) Raise when reverting focus (deactivated) Window Switcher Settings Display Windows from other desks (deactivated) Windows from other screens (deactivated) Selecting Focus (deactivated) Raise (deactivated) Notice that Selecting-Focus and Selecting-Raise are both not activated. So let's say I have windows A, B, C, D and E open and the window switcher currently shows them in that order and window A is focused. If I alt+tab from A to E, I would expect the switcher to then show E,A,B,C,D in the list. However that's not what it shows. I get E, D, C, B, A instead which is not expected, and is the exact reversed list, meaning each window that I alt-tabbed through was thus somehow selected/focused. Is that clear? I think what is happening is that the the option WindowSwitcher-Selecting-Focus (deactivated) has no effect, it is in fact focusing the windows instead on each and every alt+tab, thus changing the switcher's list. Regards, Walter On 30/12/14 23:13, Wido wrote: I'm running e19 pretty up-to-date and that behaviour works well. Actually, now that I think about it, it has always work that way for me. I have selected focus, raise, scroll and both move pointer, the other are off. I think the test-case would be something like: * working on a window A (window is focused); alt-tab and start working in another window B (both pointer and focus are now in window B and window is above all); Next alt-tab goes back to window A * I have sloppy focus. If I move the pointer to another window C and then alt-tab it also goes back to window A. Doesn't matter how many windows I have as long as I don't move the cursor 2014-12-30 16:40 GMT-03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 16:28:48 John Holland wrote: For me, if I alt tab to a window and release the alt tab, then alt tab to another window and release, and if I then alt tab, those two windows are at the top of the list. In my set up (e18) this does not work. :-( The list order of windows stays the same regardless of the last window(s) I selected via Alt-Tab. -- Regards, Mick -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
Same here. I'm running E18.8. As long as I'm using the Alt-Tab, the window selection order changes to the most recently used. If I use the mouse, then the window selection order changes dependent on the last window I hovered over. That would be because I focus my window based on pointer (sloppy focus), and I've also ticked focus in the windows switcher selection options. Try playing with the options in windows switcher settings. There may be something in there which will help. Cheers, dave.k In the year 2014, of the month of December, on the 30th day, Wido wrote: I'm running e19 pretty up-to-date and that behaviour works well. Actually, now that I think about it, it has always work that way for me. I have selected focus, raise, scroll and both move pointer, the other are off. I think the test-case would be something like: * working on a window A (window is focused); alt-tab and start working in another window B (both pointer and focus are now in window B and window is above all); Next alt-tab goes back to window A * I have sloppy focus. If I move the pointer to another window C and then alt-tab it also goes back to window A. Doesn't matter how many windows I have as long as I don't move the cursor 2014-12-30 16:40 GMT-03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 16:28:48 John Holland wrote: For me, if I alt tab to a window and release the alt tab, then alt tab to another window and release, and if I then alt tab, those two windows are at the top of the list. In my set up (e18) this does not work. :-( The list order of windows stays the same regardless of the last window(s) I selected via Alt-Tab. -- Regards, Mick -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
Should have read further down before my last reply. Looks like you're playing around with window switcher already. OK, you may want to try removing the warp mouse while selecting option. That's probably responsible for the selection behaviour you're observing. Basic explanation: - Original order: A, B, C, D, E - Press Alt-Tab. Selection order on screen: A, B (selected), C, D, E. Underlying order changed to B, A, C, D, E. This order applies if you press Alt-Tab from scratch. - Hold Alt, press Tab. Selection order on screen: A, B, C (selected), D, E. Underlying order: C, B, A, D, E. ... and so on. Follow it to its logical conclusion, and you'll get that order which you're seeing. The warp mouse while selecting should hopefully prevent the underlying order being changed, until you actually let go of Alt. Cheers, dave.k In the year 2014, of the month of December, on the 31st day, Walter Rudametkin wrote: I think you might be on to something, sloppy focus does have a different behavior, but it's still not, in my opinion, the expected behavior. Anyhow, I use click to focus and can't get to a normal focusing method. Here's my settings: Focus settings - Focus Poicy - Click New window focus - All windows Stacking Raise windows on mouse over (deactivated) Raise when moving/restarting (deactivated) Raise when reverting focus (deactivated) Window Switcher Settings Display Windows from other desks (deactivated) Windows from other screens (deactivated) Selecting Focus (deactivated) Raise (deactivated) Notice that Selecting-Focus and Selecting-Raise are both not activated. So let's say I have windows A, B, C, D and E open and the window switcher currently shows them in that order and window A is focused. If I alt+tab from A to E, I would expect the switcher to then show E,A,B,C,D in the list. However that's not what it shows. I get E, D, C, B, A instead which is not expected, and is the exact reversed list, meaning each window that I alt-tabbed through was thus somehow selected/focused. Is that clear? I think what is happening is that the the option WindowSwitcher-Selecting-Focus (deactivated) has no effect, it is in fact focusing the windows instead on each and every alt+tab, thus changing the switcher's list. Regards, Walter On 30/12/14 23:13, Wido wrote: I'm running e19 pretty up-to-date and that behaviour works well. Actually, now that I think about it, it has always work that way for me. I have selected focus, raise, scroll and both move pointer, the other are off. I think the test-case would be something like: * working on a window A (window is focused); alt-tab and start working in another window B (both pointer and focus are now in window B and window is above all); Next alt-tab goes back to window A * I have sloppy focus. If I move the pointer to another window C and then alt-tab it also goes back to window A. Doesn't matter how many windows I have as long as I don't move the cursor 2014-12-30 16:40 GMT-03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 16:28:48 John Holland wrote: For me, if I alt tab to a window and release the alt tab, then alt tab to another window and release, and if I then alt tab, those two windows are at the top of the list. In my set up (e18) this does not work. :-( The list order of windows stays the same regardless of the last window(s) I selected via Alt-Tab. -- Regards, Mick -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
[e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
Hi everybody, I'm new to enlightenment but I'm really liking it so far. Nice work. However, after a couple of days playing with it I have a couple of things I'm having trouble configuring. 1) I would like windows to be brought up on the current desktop instead of the view being moved to the other desktop. For example, if I'm on desktop 1 and I select an app in the IBar or through a shortcut (e.g. tomboy--show notes) that's on desktop 4, I would like it brought up on current desktop. How should I configure that? 2) I would like to make custom keyboard shortcuts to : - change scaling (this is useful when I changing to a high-res monitor, laptop screen, or my TV especially if I'm far away) - hide/show all shelves - change shelve sizes I do this in Xfce with xfconf and in Gnome with dconf, but enlightenment_remote and edbus don't seem to offer the same level of configuration. 3) How do you scale gtk apps like deluge or nemo? 4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a third window is selected instead. Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or windows ? 5) Why are icons in Task different and uglier than the icons in IBar for the same apps ? 6) I have a transparent shelve but Task adds a small square background to icons too. 7) Sometimes windows disappear when I try to move them by clicking on the titlebar or they don't appear when I open them. Changing desktops makes them come back most of the time, but sometimes I have to close them through the taskbar. A simple case to reproduce: - click on desktop, open settings - move to next desktop - click on desktop, open settings (window does not show) - however, the window does appear in the pager and the taskbar, but is otherwise not visible on the desktop - to make window visible, change to another desktop and come back. 8) I would like to have the entire titlebar do the same thing when left-clicking it instead of having just the top part of the bar resize and the lower part move. However, In Signal Binding Settings I can't set action params to do this. I need to set 'end' for mouse,up,1 on e.event.resize.t, but the params aren't editable. In case it helps, I'm on Archlinux using enlightenment 0.19.2-1. Happy holidays, Walter -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment configuration questions regarding focus, shortcuts, alt-tab, ...
Welcome! I'll try to answer the bits I know. You'll see that all options can be configured from the preferencies, no need to hack conf files. 1) should be working that way, but I know there are some libs that do not behave that way (java, for example). Check preferencies - windows - options - new windows 2) you don't need enlightenment_remote for keyboard, just go to options - input - keyboard. 3) gtk apps should not be E concern as it uses EFL libs. Maybe you need to load gnome services? preferencies - applications - desktop environment. 4) preferencies - windows - window seletor (may have a different name, I run E in spanish :P) 5) Don't use task, so I can't tell 6) dito 5° 7) haven't seen that behaviour, sorry 8) you don't want to resize windows from titlebar? I think that's up to the theme, you could select in pref - apearance - borders - noresize to get that (but I think that make everything non-resizable...you could try anyway) cheers! 2014-12-28 20:27 GMT-03:00 Walter Rudametkin rudamet...@gmail.com: Hi everybody, I'm new to enlightenment but I'm really liking it so far. Nice work. However, after a couple of days playing with it I have a couple of things I'm having trouble configuring. 1) I would like windows to be brought up on the current desktop instead of the view being moved to the other desktop. For example, if I'm on desktop 1 and I select an app in the IBar or through a shortcut (e.g. tomboy--show notes) that's on desktop 4, I would like it brought up on current desktop. How should I configure that? 2) I would like to make custom keyboard shortcuts to : - change scaling (this is useful when I changing to a high-res monitor, laptop screen, or my TV especially if I'm far away) - hide/show all shelves - change shelve sizes I do this in Xfce with xfconf and in Gnome with dconf, but enlightenment_remote and edbus don't seem to offer the same level of configuration. 3) How do you scale gtk apps like deluge or nemo? 4) Alt-tab behavior is different and I find it weird. If you have multiple windows, you alt-tab to change to the next window, then you alt-tab once to go back to last window but it's not the one selected, a third window is selected instead. Is there any way to configure it so it works like in xfce, gnome or windows ? 5) Why are icons in Task different and uglier than the icons in IBar for the same apps ? 6) I have a transparent shelve but Task adds a small square background to icons too. 7) Sometimes windows disappear when I try to move them by clicking on the titlebar or they don't appear when I open them. Changing desktops makes them come back most of the time, but sometimes I have to close them through the taskbar. A simple case to reproduce: - click on desktop, open settings - move to next desktop - click on desktop, open settings (window does not show) - however, the window does appear in the pager and the taskbar, but is otherwise not visible on the desktop - to make window visible, change to another desktop and come back. 8) I would like to have the entire titlebar do the same thing when left-clicking it instead of having just the top part of the bar resize and the lower part move. However, In Signal Binding Settings I can't set action params to do this. I need to set 'end' for mouse,up,1 on e.event.resize.t, but the params aren't editable. In case it helps, I'm on Archlinux using enlightenment 0.19.2-1. Happy holidays, Walter -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
