Re: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:28:45 +0900, the sky darkened, lightning flashed and the voice of Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) spake thus: > > Only question relating to Evidence that i have is can i reduce the size of > > the icons? They're beautiful and i really like it, but they're a bit large > > for my liking. > > me too - but evidence right now is being worked on so i'm not too concerned :) > That particular feature already exists. All you have to do is launch evidence with a difference icon set, like: evidence --icon-set=indigo_96 Which is the same as the default icons, except smaller. (If you want even smaller, you'll need to make you own, afaik, but that's easy enough. ktabic (who quite likes the default icon size, but I have to go visit the opticians soon...) -- Call me ktabic --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
RE: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...
Update on this one... Many thanks for all the replies on and off-list. I have been taking them on-board but I've been up to my neck in work. Okay, so I'm still on E16.7 but it's working really well and I have evidence working really nicely too so that's where I'm staying right now. I have since learnt that these days, what with things like urpmi rpm's "ought" to work on most RPM based ditributions, so I'm not overly fussed that I used SUSE rpm's as opposed to Mandrake ones. Hell, they worked afterall. I did however grab a copy of SUSE 9.2 anyway since I've been curious about it for a long time so I rescued the HDD from the old laptop and have installed SUSE on there. Wow! How great is it to have a distro that just WORKS out of the box?? It now get's my vote :) Anyway, I digress. This now gives me a path to be able to install and try out E17 over the coming weeks or months (as work permits) without it impacting my real installation and at such point as I have a week spare I'm going to go over it all changing to SUSE, installing Oracle 9.2 and E17. To very quickly cover the remaining couple of points. Quite a few people suggested doing things with file managers that involved KDE or Gnome apps. The point was though that I didn't even want to install KDE or Gnome. At the moment I do have Gnome installed since I wasn't sure how much of the libraries were needed, but ultimately, if I don't need it, then I don't want it. As I said, I'm fed up with my OS consuming 3+GB when I need every byte I can get for the GB's of data processing I have to program for. Cross-compiling: Sadly, don't have access to an actual AIX box. Only the live boxes that I can't develop on. Have to develop etc under linux then just test and implement on live. We have two stages of "live". Neither of them have compilers unfortunately. This also means neither of them have the stubs that I need for cross-compiling (iirc anyway). Anyway, getting OT. Looking forward to getting some time to try out E17. It really does look sweet :) Martin. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...
BAM wrote: E16.7 and older cannot co-exist with E17. E16.8 (current CVS) can. I have E16.7.1 co-existing with E17 on my Gentoo Linux box... the installer automatically put E17 into /usr/local/bin, whereas E16 is in /usr/bin. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:03:35 - "Martin White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Bbabbled: (B (B> Hello people, (B> (B> I've finally found the time to sign up to this list and figured i'd pop on (B> and say a quick (or not so!) hello. I'm one of those people that used to use (B> Enlightenment way back in (19??, dunno, 95 maybe, 97?!). I seem to remember (B> slackware 3.2(ish) with E12 or E13 although i guess that could be way off, (B> it's irrelevent though. Then I drifted off for years favouring KDE and have (B> rediscovered E just recently. (B (Bgreat! welcome back! :) (B (B> Over the last 6 months i've been working on a project for work that has (B> meant having to develop for AIX so having a linux partition on my laptop has (B> been the easiest way to go. Haven't got to cross-compiling, maybe i'll get (B (Bwell- you can just compile natively ON AIX - it might be a lot less pain :) (B (B> to that one day. Anyway, i was nearing the end of a vital stage two weeks (B> ago when the worst that could probably happen did and my laptop died. (B (Bouch! poor laptop :( (B (B> When i rebuilt it i decided that as i was using thunderbird and firefox for (B> the usual things and netbeans for java development, it seemed about the only (B> thing keeping me in kde was kdevelop (for my C/C++ development) and seeing (B> as i knew there were alternatives to that i figured i'd had enough of (B> installing gigabytes of crap to get a desktop environment and tried going (B> back to E. (B> (B> Things went well and i'm very impressed, although i was still at the (B> firefighting, "get my laptop back and the code out of the door" stage until (B> the end of last week. My current setup is Mandrake 10.1 (i was already a (B> silver club member, so it seemed sensible to stick with it) on a Dell (B> Latitude D600 (wireless and everything working nice). Enlightenment (B> E16.7.something. I pinched the blue curve backdrop from the Mandrake install (B> and am using the 023glass theme (i think). (B> (B> Try as i might though i just couldn't get used to living without a file (B> manager. This was dissapointing t me, but i guess the years of KDE have (B> rubbed off on me. (B (Bwe are moving to fix that :) so be patient... :) (B (B> So this afternoon i went down the Evidence route. (B (Baaah - u found it :) (B (B> Things were a little shaky with the source compile and in the end i gave up (B> with that as i shouve been writing code not compiling other peoples really. (B> I don't recall off my head what the sticking point was but i decided to give (B> the SUSE RPMs a shot just for the hell of it, i could always back it out (B> afterall. (B> (B> So, I installed about 7 RPMs (ecore, edb, edje, eet, embryo, evas, evidence (B> itself) and it seems to be working a treat. Nice one!! (B (Bthe "path of least resistance" :) (B (B> Did i ought to be overly concerned about the fact that they were SUSE RPMs? (B> I guess not since it's working, but i don't really want to hit a problem (B> further down the line on this work machine :) I think i have to use --nodeps (B> on 1 of the rpms, but that was one of the very first so i probably ended up (B> resolving the dependencies later on anyway. (B> (B> Only question relating to Evidence that i have is can i reduce the size of (B> the icons? They're beautiful and i really like it, but they're a bit large (B> for my liking. (B (Bme too - but evidence right now is being worked on so i'm not too concerned :) (B (B> And finally, is there much more to getting E17 to work seeing as all of the (B> above RPMs were from E17 iirc? Can the two coexist? E16 & 17 that is? If i (B> have to remove E16 then i'd be reluctant for now, as i say, this is a work (B> laptop and i can't spare even half a day if it goes completely pear shaped. (B> At least i'd have to be fairly creative with a few excuses!! (B (Be17 itself changes quickly - and the libs supporting it change to match - you (Bwill find the only sane way to keep up is to install from CVS... or... (B (Bhttp://enlightenment.freedesktop.org (B (Bhas tarballs :) (B (B> Anyway, plenty enough ramblings from me :) (B> (B> I figured i'd had such a pleasurable time rediscovering Enlightenment lately (B> though that i'd share some praise to Rasterman et. al. and not just make it (B> all questions!! (B (Bglad to see you're happy :) (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $BMg9%B?(B [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BTokyo, Japan ($BEl5~(B $BF|K\(B) (B (B (B--- (BSF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide (BRead honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. (BDiscover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. (Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
Re: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 20:03 +, Martin White wrote: > Try as i might though i just couldn't get used to living without a > file manager. This was dissapointing t me, but i guess the years of > KDE have rubbed off on me. You can run any KDE or GNOME application, including their file managers, in E16. If you're running Firefox, you probably already have the core GNOME libraries, for example, so you could just install Nautilus and go... > So this afternoon i went down the Evidence route. ...But Evidence has some neat features Konqi and Nautilus don't. :) > Things were a little shaky with the source compile and in the end i > gave up with that as i shouve been writing code not compiling other > peoples really. I don't recall off my head what the sticking point was > but i decided to give the SUSE RPMs a shot just for the hell of it, i > could always back it out afterall. > > So, I installed about 7 RPMs (ecore, edb, edje, eet, embryo, evas, > evidence itself) and it seems to be working a treat. Nice one!! > > Did i ought to be overly concerned about the fact that they were SUSE > RPMs? I guess not since it's working, but i don't really want to hit a > problem further down the line on this work machine :) I think i have > to use --nodeps on 1 of the rpms, but that was one of the very first > so i probably ended up resolving the dependencies later on anyway. I think Mandrake has RPMs for some of those libraries in contrib, but I don't think Evidence is there. Maybe easiest to keep running the SUSE RPMs if they don't whine about missing libraries. (.so's, that is. Missing packages are different; some undoubtedly just have different names in Mandrake.) > And finally, is there much more to getting E17 to work seeing as all > of the above RPMs were from E17 iirc? E17 is under heavy development and lacks many features. For day-to-day tasks you might be better off with E16. The only way to find out how much work it would be is trying it. :) At that point, I'd personally compile from CVS rather than use the RPMs if they are at all out of date. But I don't know if there are CVS changes Evidence hasn't kept up with. > Can the two coexist? E16 & 17 that is? If i have to remove E16 then > i'd be reluctant for now, as i say, this is a work laptop and i can't > spare even half a day if it goes completely pear shaped. At least i'd > have to be fairly creative with a few excuses!! E16.7 and older cannot co-exist with E17. E16.8 (current CVS) can. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
FW: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...
Arrggh! The reply button strikes already :) -Original Message- From: Martin White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 February 2005 10:55 To: 'Adrien Tougas' Subject: RE: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question... Yes, thanks, that's helpful info... When I get some time then I'll see if I can't resize the icons in the evidence theme, investigate E16.8 and then maybe proceed onto E17 even. Assuming that I do resize the icons, is it worth passing them onto someone else for a "default_small" theme, or has that already been done? Martin -Original Message- From: Adrien Tougas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2005 21:53 To: Martin White Subject: Re: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question... On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 20:03 +, Martin White wrote: > So, I installed about 7 RPMs (ecore, edb, edje, eet, embryo, evas, > evidence itself) and it seems to be working a treat. Nice one!! > > Did i ought to be overly concerned about the fact that they were SUSE > RPMs? I guess not since it's working, but i don't really want to hit a > problem further down the line on this work machine :) I think i have > to use --nodeps on 1 of the rpms, but that was one of the very first > so i probably ended up resolving the dependencies later on anyway. The dependency problems you ran into are (most likely) caused because the EFL needs to be built in a certain order, that order is: imlib2 edb eet evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo edje esmart emotion etox ewl imlib2_loaders engrave > Only question relating to Evidence that i have is can i reduce the > size of the icons? They're beautiful and i really like it, but they're > a bit large for my liking. The icon size in Evidence is actually the size of the icon files found in the (relevant) themes directory. Once you locate the themes icons it's as simple as resizing them. > And finally, is there much more to getting E17 to work seeing as all > of the above RPMs were from E17 iirc? Can the two coexist? E16 & 17 > that is? If i have to remove E16 then i'd be reluctant for now, as i > say, this is a work laptop and i can't spare even half a day if it > goes completely pear shaped. At least i'd have to be fairly creative > with a few excuses!! IIRC Kim Woelders, has made changes to E16.8 so that it may reside alongside E17. HTH --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Hello and maybe a question...
Title: Message Hello people, I've finally found the time to sign up to this list and figured i'd pop on and say a quick (or not so!) hello. I'm one of those people that used to use Enlightenment way back in (19??, dunno, 95 maybe, 97?!). I seem to remember slackware 3.2(ish) with E12 or E13 although i guess that could be way off, it's irrelevent though. Then I drifted off for years favouring KDE and have rediscovered E just recently. Over the last 6 months i've been working on a project for work that has meant having to develop for AIX so having a linux partition on my laptop has been the easiest way to go. Haven't got to cross-compiling, maybe i'll get to that one day. Anyway, i was nearing the end of a vital stage two weeks ago when the worst that could probably happen did and my laptop died. When i rebuilt it i decided that as i was using thunderbird and firefox for the usual things and netbeans for java development, it seemed about the only thing keeping me in kde was kdevelop (for my C/C++ development) and seeing as i knew there were alternatives to that i figured i'd had enough of installing gigabytes of crap to get a desktop environment and tried going back to E. Things went well and i'm very impressed, although i was still at the firefighting, "get my laptop back and the code out of the door" stage until the end of last week. My current setup is Mandrake 10.1 (i was already a silver club member, so it seemed sensible to stick with it) on a Dell Latitude D600 (wireless and everything working nice). Enlightenment E16.7.something. I pinched the blue curve backdrop from the Mandrake install and am using the 023glass theme (i think). Try as i might though i just couldn't get used to living without a file manager. This was dissapointing t me, but i guess the years of KDE have rubbed off on me. So this afternoon i went down the Evidence route. Things were a little shaky with the source compile and in the end i gave up with that as i shouve been writing code not compiling other peoples really. I don't recall off my head what the sticking point was but i decided to give the SUSE RPMs a shot just for the hell of it, i could always back it out afterall. So, I installed about 7 RPMs (ecore, edb, edje, eet, embryo, evas, evidence itself) and it seems to be working a treat. Nice one!! Did i ought to be overly concerned about the fact that they were SUSE RPMs? I guess not since it's working, but i don't really want to hit a problem further down the line on this work machine :) I think i have to use --nodeps on 1 of the rpms, but that was one of the very first so i probably ended up resolving the dependencies later on anyway. Only question relating to Evidence that i have is can i reduce the size of the icons? They're beautiful and i really like it, but they're a bit large for my liking. And finally, is there much more to getting E17 to work seeing as all of the above RPMs were from E17 iirc? Can the two coexist? E16 & 17 that is? If i have to remove E16 then i'd be reluctant for now, as i say, this is a work laptop and i can't spare even half a day if it goes completely pear shaped. At least i'd have to be fairly creative with a few excuses!! Anyway, plenty enough ramblings from me :) I figured i'd had such a pleasurable time rediscovering Enlightenment lately though that i'd share some praise to Rasterman et. al. and not just make it all questions!! Cheers, Martin. http://www.guddler.co.uk
