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Re: [e-users] new user has difficulties to understand size hints for menu toolbar

2014-06-30 Thread Davide Andreoli
2014-06-29 20:48 GMT+02:00 cedlemo cedl...@gmx.com:


 normal (no menu displayed)
 http://s28.postimg.org/ne60k5gul/ekana_normal.jpg

 with the menu problem:
 http://s4.postimg.org/jhj952df1/ekana_pb.png


I got this problem some time ago, the solution was just to swap the order
of some line of code...I cant remember well... try to move the show()
above, or look at menu examples and see the difference from your code.

Sorry I cant remember the exact solution, sure it was just just the order
of the operations



 On 29/06/2014 19:08, Davide Andreoli wrote:
  can you post a screenshot of your problem please?
 
 
  2014-06-28 11:29 GMT+02:00 cedlemo cedl...@gmx.com:
 
  I am writing a little application with elementary to learn kanas. I have
  a toolbar and I have
  a problem with the size of a menu of this toolbar.
 
  my main interface looks like this(which is very simple):
  window
  -- box (vertical)
  --toolbar
  --label
  --entry
  --button
 
  the size hint functions that I use are:
  window :
  evas_object_resize(win, 400, -1);
  elm_win_resize_object(add(win, box);
  my window have a min width of 400 and a min height that correspond
 to
  the needed height
  of the box
  box :
  elm_box_horizontal_set(box, EINA_FALSE)
  evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(box,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND)
  toolbar:
  evas_object_size_hint_align_set(toolbar, EVAS_HINT_FILL,
 EVAS_HINT_FILL)
  elm_toolbar_menu_parent_set(toolbar, win) //this has not effect for
  my problem
  label:
  evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(kana_label,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,
  EVAS_HINT_EXPAND);
  //this is the main widget that will be resized (height and width)
  when the main
  window is resized
  entry:
  evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(entry,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);
  button:
  evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(ui-bouton,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);
 
  I create the menu like this (like in the documentation from
  http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/elementary/toolbar_example_03.html)
 :
  Elm_Object_Item * conf_menu = elm_toolbar_item_append(toolbar, NULL,
  Configure, NULL, NULL);
  elm_toolbar_item_menu_set(conf_menu, EINA_TRUE);
  Evas_Object * menu = elm_toolbar_item_menu_get(conf_menu);
 
  and then I add menu items. My main interface works as expected. The
  problems that I can't solve concerns the menu.
 
  First the menu uses all the window size (I want it uses only the needded
  width/height based on the menu items). I have tried to use
  evas_object_size_hint_weight_set /
  evas_object_size_hint_align_set on the menu Evas_Object and the items
  but without effects.
 
  Then the menu doesn't have any background color.
 
  Any help will be appreciated
 
 
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Re: [e-users] new user has difficulties to understand size hints for menu toolbar

2014-06-30 Thread cedlemo

@Davide Andreoli:

Thanks this information was very usefull.
I just have to put the evas_object_resize(win, 400, -1) just before the

evas_object_show(win);
elm_run();

Now my code is working as expected.

Cedlemo


On 30/06/2014 17:52, Davide Andreoli wrote:
 2014-06-29 20:48 GMT+02:00 cedlemo cedl...@gmx.com:

 normal (no menu displayed)
 http://s28.postimg.org/ne60k5gul/ekana_normal.jpg

 with the menu problem:
 http://s4.postimg.org/jhj952df1/ekana_pb.png

 I got this problem some time ago, the solution was just to swap the order
 of some line of code...I cant remember well... try to move the show()
 above, or look at menu examples and see the difference from your code.

 Sorry I cant remember the exact solution, sure it was just just the order
 of the operations


 On 29/06/2014 19:08, Davide Andreoli wrote:
 can you post a screenshot of your problem please?


 2014-06-28 11:29 GMT+02:00 cedlemo cedl...@gmx.com:

 I am writing a little application with elementary to learn kanas. I have
 a toolbar and I have
 a problem with the size of a menu of this toolbar.

 my main interface looks like this(which is very simple):
 window
  -- box (vertical)
  --toolbar
  --label
  --entry
  --button

 the size hint functions that I use are:
 window :
  evas_object_resize(win, 400, -1);
  elm_win_resize_object(add(win, box);
  my window have a min width of 400 and a min height that correspond
 to
 the needed height
  of the box
 box :
  elm_box_horizontal_set(box, EINA_FALSE)
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(box,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND)
 toolbar:
  evas_object_size_hint_align_set(toolbar, EVAS_HINT_FILL,
 EVAS_HINT_FILL)
  elm_toolbar_menu_parent_set(toolbar, win) //this has not effect for
 my problem
 label:
  evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(kana_label,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,
 EVAS_HINT_EXPAND);
  //this is the main widget that will be resized (height and width)
 when the main
  window is resized
 entry:
  evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(entry,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);
 button:
  evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(ui-bouton,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);

 I create the menu like this (like in the documentation from
 http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/elementary/toolbar_example_03.html)
 :
  Elm_Object_Item * conf_menu = elm_toolbar_item_append(toolbar, NULL,
 Configure, NULL, NULL);
  elm_toolbar_item_menu_set(conf_menu, EINA_TRUE);
  Evas_Object * menu = elm_toolbar_item_menu_get(conf_menu);

 and then I add menu items. My main interface works as expected. The
 problems that I can't solve concerns the menu.

 First the menu uses all the window size (I want it uses only the needded
 width/height based on the menu items). I have tried to use
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set /
 evas_object_size_hint_align_set on the menu Evas_Object and the items
 but without effects.

 Then the menu doesn't have any background color.

 Any help will be appreciated


 Cedlemo




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Re: [e-users] new user has difficulties to understand size hints for menu toolbar

2014-06-29 Thread Davide Andreoli
can you post a screenshot of your problem please?


2014-06-28 11:29 GMT+02:00 cedlemo cedl...@gmx.com:

 I am writing a little application with elementary to learn kanas. I have
 a toolbar and I have
 a problem with the size of a menu of this toolbar.

 my main interface looks like this(which is very simple):
 window
-- box (vertical)
--toolbar
--label
--entry
--button

 the size hint functions that I use are:
 window :
evas_object_resize(win, 400, -1);
elm_win_resize_object(add(win, box);
my window have a min width of 400 and a min height that correspond to
 the needed height
of the box
 box :
elm_box_horizontal_set(box, EINA_FALSE)
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(box,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND)
 toolbar:
evas_object_size_hint_align_set(toolbar, EVAS_HINT_FILL, EVAS_HINT_FILL)
elm_toolbar_menu_parent_set(toolbar, win) //this has not effect for
 my problem
 label:
evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(kana_label,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,
 EVAS_HINT_EXPAND);
//this is the main widget that will be resized (height and width)
 when the main
window is resized
 entry:
evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(entry,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);
 button:
evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(ui-bouton,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);

 I create the menu like this (like in the documentation from
 http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/elementary/toolbar_example_03.html) :
Elm_Object_Item * conf_menu = elm_toolbar_item_append(toolbar, NULL,
 Configure, NULL, NULL);
elm_toolbar_item_menu_set(conf_menu, EINA_TRUE);
Evas_Object * menu = elm_toolbar_item_menu_get(conf_menu);

 and then I add menu items. My main interface works as expected. The
 problems that I can't solve concerns the menu.

 First the menu uses all the window size (I want it uses only the needded
 width/height based on the menu items). I have tried to use
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set /
 evas_object_size_hint_align_set on the menu Evas_Object and the items
 but without effects.

 Then the menu doesn't have any background color.

 Any help will be appreciated


 Cedlemo



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Re: [e-users] new user has difficulties to understand size hints for menu toolbar

2014-06-29 Thread cedlemo

normal (no menu displayed)
http://s28.postimg.org/ne60k5gul/ekana_normal.jpg

with the menu problem:
http://s4.postimg.org/jhj952df1/ekana_pb.png

On 29/06/2014 19:08, Davide Andreoli wrote:
 can you post a screenshot of your problem please?


 2014-06-28 11:29 GMT+02:00 cedlemo cedl...@gmx.com:

 I am writing a little application with elementary to learn kanas. I have
 a toolbar and I have
 a problem with the size of a menu of this toolbar.

 my main interface looks like this(which is very simple):
 window
 -- box (vertical)
 --toolbar
 --label
 --entry
 --button

 the size hint functions that I use are:
 window :
 evas_object_resize(win, 400, -1);
 elm_win_resize_object(add(win, box);
 my window have a min width of 400 and a min height that correspond to
 the needed height
 of the box
 box :
 elm_box_horizontal_set(box, EINA_FALSE)
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(box,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND)
 toolbar:
 evas_object_size_hint_align_set(toolbar, EVAS_HINT_FILL, EVAS_HINT_FILL)
 elm_toolbar_menu_parent_set(toolbar, win) //this has not effect for
 my problem
 label:
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(kana_label,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,
 EVAS_HINT_EXPAND);
 //this is the main widget that will be resized (height and width)
 when the main
 window is resized
 entry:
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(entry,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);
 button:
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(ui-bouton,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);

 I create the menu like this (like in the documentation from
 http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/elementary/toolbar_example_03.html) :
 Elm_Object_Item * conf_menu = elm_toolbar_item_append(toolbar, NULL,
 Configure, NULL, NULL);
 elm_toolbar_item_menu_set(conf_menu, EINA_TRUE);
 Evas_Object * menu = elm_toolbar_item_menu_get(conf_menu);

 and then I add menu items. My main interface works as expected. The
 problems that I can't solve concerns the menu.

 First the menu uses all the window size (I want it uses only the needded
 width/height based on the menu items). I have tried to use
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set /
 evas_object_size_hint_align_set on the menu Evas_Object and the items
 but without effects.

 Then the menu doesn't have any background color.

 Any help will be appreciated


 Cedlemo



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[e-users] new user has difficulties to understand size hints for menu toolbar

2014-06-28 Thread cedlemo
I am writing a little application with elementary to learn kanas. I have 
a toolbar and I have
a problem with the size of a menu of this toolbar.

my main interface looks like this(which is very simple):
window
   -- box (vertical)
   --toolbar
   --label
   --entry
   --button

the size hint functions that I use are:
window :
   evas_object_resize(win, 400, -1);
   elm_win_resize_object(add(win, box);
   my window have a min width of 400 and a min height that correspond to 
the needed height
   of the box
box :
   elm_box_horizontal_set(box, EINA_FALSE)
evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(box,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND)
toolbar:
   evas_object_size_hint_align_set(toolbar, EVAS_HINT_FILL, EVAS_HINT_FILL)
   elm_toolbar_menu_parent_set(toolbar, win) //this has not effect for 
my problem
label:
   evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(kana_label,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 
EVAS_HINT_EXPAND);
   //this is the main widget that will be resized (height and width) 
when the main
   window is resized
entry:
   evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(entry,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);
button:
   evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(ui-bouton,EVAS_HINT_EXPAND, 0.0);

I create the menu like this (like in the documentation from 
http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/elementary/toolbar_example_03.html) :
   Elm_Object_Item * conf_menu = elm_toolbar_item_append(toolbar, NULL, 
Configure, NULL, NULL);
   elm_toolbar_item_menu_set(conf_menu, EINA_TRUE);
   Evas_Object * menu = elm_toolbar_item_menu_get(conf_menu);

and then I add menu items. My main interface works as expected. The 
problems that I can't solve concerns the menu.

First the menu uses all the window size (I want it uses only the needded 
width/height based on the menu items). I have tried to use 
evas_object_size_hint_weight_set /
evas_object_size_hint_align_set on the menu Evas_Object and the items 
but without effects.

Then the menu doesn't have any background color.

Any help will be appreciated


Cedlemo


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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Heerdegen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes:

 thats the gadman module setting that up as a fixed binding (comp also
 sets up such fixed bindings for safety/debugging). unload gadman and
 it'll be gone.

Works for me, thanks!

 that is actually configurable... BUT there is no gui for it. it's part
 of the signal bindings...

Ok, I guess I had to change ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg.  But it
seems to be compiled.  How can it be done?


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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
 On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 23:31:06 +0100 Michael Heerdegen 
 michael_heerde...@web.de
 said:

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes:

  thats the gadman module setting that up as a fixed binding (comp also
  sets up such fixed bindings for safety/debugging). unload gadman and
  it'll be gone.

 Works for me, thanks!

  that is actually configurable... BUT there is no gui for it. it's part
  of the signal bindings...

 Ok, I guess I had to change ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg.  But it
 seems to be compiled.  How can it be done?

 eet


(decode e.cfg to e.src)
$ eet -d e.cfg config e.src

(modify/save it)
$ vi e.src

(encode e.src into e.cfg)
$ eet -e e.cfg config e.src 1

Thanks.

Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)


 Many thanks,

 Michael

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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:41:27 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com said:

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
  On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 23:31:06 +0100 Michael Heerdegen
  michael_heerde...@web.de said:
 
  Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes:
 
   thats the gadman module setting that up as a fixed binding (comp also
   sets up such fixed bindings for safety/debugging). unload gadman and
   it'll be gone.
 
  Works for me, thanks!
 
   that is actually configurable... BUT there is no gui for it. it's part
   of the signal bindings...
 
  Ok, I guess I had to change ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg.  But it
  seems to be compiled.  How can it be done?
 
  eet
 
 
 (decode e.cfg to e.src)
 $ eet -d e.cfg config e.src
 
 (modify/save it)
 $ vi e.src
 
 (encode e.src into e.cfg)
 $ eet -e e.cfg config e.src 1
 
 Thanks.

oh you spoiled my fun :( i wanted him to try deduce it him/herself. i wanted to
see if someone could deduce how to do it if pointed at the tool that can do
it. :) there goes my social experiment :(

 Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
 
 
  Many thanks,
 
  Michael
 
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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread Sanjeev BA
Ha ha ha.
I was tempted to reply with the commands and then thought that maybe there
is a command like

eet --help

Turns out...there is :)




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 On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:41:27 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com
 said:

  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
 wrote:
   On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 23:31:06 +0100 Michael Heerdegen
   michael_heerde...@web.de said:
  
   Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes:
  
thats the gadman module setting that up as a fixed binding (comp
 also
sets up such fixed bindings for safety/debugging). unload gadman and
it'll be gone.
  
   Works for me, thanks!
  
that is actually configurable... BUT there is no gui for it. it's
 part
of the signal bindings...
  
   Ok, I guess I had to change ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg.  But it
   seems to be compiled.  How can it be done?
  
   eet
  
 
  (decode e.cfg to e.src)
  $ eet -d e.cfg config e.src
 
  (modify/save it)
  $ vi e.src
 
  (encode e.src into e.cfg)
  $ eet -e e.cfg config e.src 1
 
  Thanks.

 oh you spoiled my fun :( i wanted him to try deduce it him/herself. i
 wanted to
 see if someone could deduce how to do it if pointed at the tool that can do
 it. :) there goes my social experiment :(

  Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
 
  
   Many thanks,
  
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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Heerdegen
Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com writes:

  Ok, I guess I had to change ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg.  But it
  seems to be compiled.  How can it be done?
 
  eet

 (decode e.cfg to e.src)
 $ eet -d e.cfg config e.src

 (modify/save it)
 $ vi e.src

 (encode e.src into e.cfg)
 $ eet -e e.cfg config e.src 1

Ok, that looks good, thanks (I had to install the package libeet-bin
in Debian to install the eet binary, btw).

This was my original question

 Is it possible to achieve that the mouse wheel on the title bar of a
 window moves that window to the previous/next virtual desktop?  No
 action context of To next desktop/ To previous desktop works for
 me.  I thought Border would do it, but that establishes the binding
 for the whole window including contents.

So, now I see this in e.src:

group E_Config_Binding_Wheel struct {
value context int: 2;
value direction int: 0;
value z int: 1;
value modifiers int: 2;
value any_mod uchar: 0;
value action string: window_desk_move_by;
value params string: 1 0;
}
group E_Config_Binding_Wheel struct {
value context int: 2;
value direction int: 0;
value z int: -1;
value modifiers int: 2;
value any_mod uchar: 0;
value action string: window_desk_move_by;
value params string: -1 0;
}


which reflect my bindings of Control + Mouse-wheel on a window to move to
other desktops.

Are these the right structs to modify to limit the impact to the window
titles, or do I have to replace it with something different?

(Sorry to ask so many dumb questions.  Please tell me if there is any
documentation I missed.)


Thanks again,

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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:02:05 +0900 Sanjeev BA eflel...@gmail.com said:

 Ha ha ha.
 I was tempted to reply with the commands and then thought that maybe there
 is a command like
 
 eet --help
 
 Turns out...there is :)

eet

by itself prints help. no need even for --help or -help or -h :)

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
 
  On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:41:27 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com
  said:
 
   On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
  wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 23:31:06 +0100 Michael Heerdegen
michael_heerde...@web.de said:
   
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes:
   
 thats the gadman module setting that up as a fixed binding (comp
  also
 sets up such fixed bindings for safety/debugging). unload gadman and
 it'll be gone.
   
Works for me, thanks!
   
 that is actually configurable... BUT there is no gui for it. it's
  part
 of the signal bindings...
   
Ok, I guess I had to change ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg.  But it
seems to be compiled.  How can it be done?
   
eet
   
  
   (decode e.cfg to e.src)
   $ eet -d e.cfg config e.src
  
   (modify/save it)
   $ vi e.src
  
   (encode e.src into e.cfg)
   $ eet -e e.cfg config e.src 1
  
   Thanks.
 
  oh you spoiled my fun :( i wanted him to try deduce it him/herself. i
  wanted to
  see if someone could deduce how to do it if pointed at the tool that can do
  it. :) there goes my social experiment :(
 
   Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
  
   
Many thanks,
   
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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 04:09:45 +0100 Michael Heerdegen michael_heerde...@web.de
said:

 Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com writes:
 
   Ok, I guess I had to change ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg.  But it
   seems to be compiled.  How can it be done?
  
   eet
 
  (decode e.cfg to e.src)
  $ eet -d e.cfg config e.src
 
  (modify/save it)
  $ vi e.src
 
  (encode e.src into e.cfg)
  $ eet -e e.cfg config e.src 1
 
 Ok, that looks good, thanks (I had to install the package libeet-bin
 in Debian to install the eet binary, btw).
 
 This was my original question
 
  Is it possible to achieve that the mouse wheel on the title bar of a
  window moves that window to the previous/next virtual desktop?  No
  action context of To next desktop/ To previous desktop works for
  me.  I thought Border would do it, but that establishes the binding
  for the whole window including contents.
 
 So, now I see this in e.src:
 
 group E_Config_Binding_Wheel struct {
 value context int: 2;
 value direction int: 0;
 value z int: 1;
 value modifiers int: 2;
 value any_mod uchar: 0;
 value action string: window_desk_move_by;
 value params string: 1 0;
 }
 group E_Config_Binding_Wheel struct {
 value context int: 2;
 value direction int: 0;
 value z int: -1;
 value modifiers int: 2;
 value any_mod uchar: 0;
 value action string: window_desk_move_by;
 value params string: -1 0;
 }
 
 
 which reflect my bindings of Control + Mouse-wheel on a window to move to
 other desktops.
 
 Are these the right structs to modify to limit the impact to the window
 titles, or do I have to replace it with something different?
 
 (Sorry to ask so many dumb questions.  Please tell me if there is any
 documentation I missed.)

there is no documentation :) this stuff isnt meant to be played with except for
developers and hard-core nerds. those ppl can read the source. :) you want the
signal bindings. mouse bindings already have a gui.

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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Heerdegen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes:

 oh you spoiled my fun :( i wanted him to try deduce it him/herself. i
 wanted to see if someone could deduce how to do it if pointed at the
 tool that can do it. :) there goes my social experiment :(

I had found the man page before reading his message (yes, there is one
in Debian), and successfully extracted the data.  Did I pass, or do I
need to repeat?

Just fun... I appreciate your help.

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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 04:29:50 +0100 Michael Heerdegen michael_heerde...@web.de
said:

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes:
 
  oh you spoiled my fun :( i wanted him to try deduce it him/herself. i
  wanted to see if someone could deduce how to do it if pointed at the
  tool that can do it. :) there goes my social experiment :(
 
 I had found the man page before reading his message (yes, there is one
 in Debian), and successfully extracted the data.  Did I pass, or do I
 need to repeat?
 
 Just fun... I appreciate your help.

aaah cool. so pointer did work! awesome! :) so eet as a tool (with
manual/--help output) isnt that mysterious - ie its able to be figured out by a
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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-05 Thread Sanjeev BA
A man page for eet. Awesome - we should have similar ones for many more of
the tools that efl has.

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 On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 04:29:50 +0100 Michael Heerdegen 
 michael_heerde...@web.de
 said:

  Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes:
 
   oh you spoiled my fun :( i wanted him to try deduce it him/herself. i
   wanted to see if someone could deduce how to do it if pointed at the
   tool that can do it. :) there goes my social experiment :(
 
  I had found the man page before reading his message (yes, there is one
  in Debian), and successfully extracted the data.  Did I pass, or do I
  need to repeat?
 
  Just fun... I appreciate your help.

 aaah cool. so pointer did work! awesome! :) so eet as a tool (with
 manual/--help output) isnt that mysterious - ie its able to be figured out
 by a
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Re: [e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-04 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 23:46:27 +0100 Michael Heerdegen michael_heerde...@web.de
said:

thats the gadman module setting that up as a fixed binding (comp also sets up
such fixed bindings for safety/debugging). unload gadman and it'll be gone.

 Hi,
 
 I consider switching from openbox to enlightenment.  I tried e17 on
 Debian wheezy.
 
 I like that I have complete control over all key bindings.  However, if
 I hit Alt-Control-g, the screen is blanked, whereby the mouse pointer
 stays visible.  I don't see that binding in the input preferences
 dialog.   Where does that binding come from - can it be deactivated?
 Are there other bindings that are not visible in the preferences dialog?
 
 Second question: is it possible to achieve that the mouse wheel on the
 title bar of a window moves that window to the previous/next
 virtual desktop?  No action context of To next desktop/ To previous
 desktop works for me.  I thought Border would do it, but that
 establishes the binding for the whole window including contents.

that is actually configurable... BUT there is no gui for it. it's part of the
signal bindings...

 
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[e-users] New user question: binding stuff

2012-03-03 Thread Michael Heerdegen
Hi,

I consider switching from openbox to enlightenment.  I tried e17 on
Debian wheezy.

I like that I have complete control over all key bindings.  However, if
I hit Alt-Control-g, the screen is blanked, whereby the mouse pointer
stays visible.  I don't see that binding in the input preferences
dialog.   Where does that binding come from - can it be deactivated?
Are there other bindings that are not visible in the preferences dialog?

Second question: is it possible to achieve that the mouse wheel on the
title bar of a window moves that window to the previous/next
virtual desktop?  No action context of To next desktop/ To previous
desktop works for me.  I thought Border would do it, but that
establishes the binding for the whole window including contents.


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Re: [e-users] New User E17 Questions

2005-08-31 Thread David P. Donahue
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 
 change to sloppy focus (see enlightenment_remote)
 

Ah, there it is.  I really should read all those enlightenment_remote
options.  Thanks!

 
 alt+click or enable clicks always raise windows option in enlightenment_remote
 

Another reply mentioned that alt+click thing, which I'm actually finding
better because it gives me more control over when I want this behavior
to happen.  Very nice :)

 
 eaps are compiled from src data - they no longer have anything to do with the
 original source format. the image data is re-encoded into eet's image data
 storage mechanisms. these are designed to be compact and fast wherever 
 possible.
 

So no performance difference, that's cool.  How about usable file types?
 For example, can it use a Windows .ico file?  I guess I could just
experiment with a bunch of different types, but I figured you guys would
know off-hand which ones (and any limitations within a type...
layering/transparency/etc.)

 
 they are edje files. you compile these from source (generally .edc files) 
 using
 edje_cc. see www.get-e.org for info. www.cuddletech.com has an edje cookbook -
 a bit old though. there are other places too for info on how edje works. its a
 bit like flash/swf in some ways. you'll need to come to grips with edje to 
 make
 themes. once u have edje under the belt modifying an existing theme will be no
 trouble. youc an decompile a theme with edje_decc (the default theme doesnt
 decompile - i know. i need to fix that eventually in the decompiler). you can
 see all the .edc soruces in e17's src tree - or try another theme to
 decompile :)
 

I hadn't seen that edje_decc tool until an earlier response pointed it
out.  I think that's all I'll want to use to get started.  I'll just
play around with mixing and matching image files at first and use the
build.sh script it generates to put it back together.  I'll worry about
more advanced stuff over time, since it's entirely possible that things
may change anyway.

 
 but not complete! :(
 

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Re: [e-users] New User E17 Questions

2005-08-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:09:47 -0400 David P. Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  
  change to sloppy focus (see enlightenment_remote)
  
 
 Ah, there it is.  I really should read all those enlightenment_remote
 options.  Thanks!
 
  
  alt+click or enable clicks always raise windows option in
  enlightenment_remote
  
 
 Another reply mentioned that alt+click thing, which I'm actually finding
 better because it gives me more control over when I want this behavior
 to happen.  Very nice :)

yup - also doubles as a window move operation. alt + middle mouse for resize
also does the raise too :)

  
  eaps are compiled from src data - they no longer have anything to do with
  the original source format. the image data is re-encoded into eet's image
  data storage mechanisms. these are designed to be compact and fast wherever
  possible.
  
 
 So no performance difference, that's cool.  How about usable file types?
  For example, can it use a Windows .ico file?  I guess I could just
 experiment with a bunch of different types, but I figured you guys would
 know off-hand which ones (and any limitations within a type...
 layering/transparency/etc.)

the eap fiels IS an edje file - the graphics are laid out in an edje - so the
limitations are what edje can do - whihc is far and beyond any image format
u'll be using regularly :) right now its compiled with edje_cc - it happens to
use imlib2 to load the image (the only use of imlib2 in e17 actually is in
edje_cc and edje_decc and edje_thumb tools). that means it loads whatever
imlib2 can load - but no imlib2 has no .ico loader. this may change one day.
i'd say just stick to png and jpeg and then you have all bases covered as they
together provide lossless with alpha channels and lossy image compression.

  
  they are edje files. you compile these from source (generally .edc files)
  using edje_cc. see www.get-e.org for info. www.cuddletech.com has an edje
  cookbook - a bit old though. there are other places too for info on how
  edje works. its a bit like flash/swf in some ways. you'll need to come to
  grips with edje to make themes. once u have edje under the belt modifying
  an existing theme will be no trouble. youc an decompile a theme with
  edje_decc (the default theme doesnt decompile - i know. i need to fix that
  eventually in the decompiler). you can see all the .edc soruces in e17's
  src tree - or try another theme to decompile :)
  
 
 I hadn't seen that edje_decc tool until an earlier response pointed it
 out.  I think that's all I'll want to use to get started.  I'll just
 play around with mixing and matching image files at first and use the
 build.sh script it generates to put it back together.  I'll worry about
 more advanced stuff over time, since it's entirely possible that things
 may change anyway.
 
  
  but not complete! :(
  
 
 Every programmer knows that software is never complete :)
 Perfection is a journey, not a destination.  -Chiun
 
 Thanks for the help once again, all!
 
 
 Regards,
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[e-users] New User E17 Questions

2005-08-30 Thread David P. Donahue
1) At first I thought the menus were being lost off-screen if I click 
too close to the edge, but I just noticed that they move if I push the 
cursor towards the edge.  Very cool.  Regardless, is there a way to get 
the menus to smart render entirely on-screen when I click?


2) Also, is there a way to get the focus to stay in a window when the 
cursor leaves to the desktop, not to another window?


3) And I notice that the only way to raise a window is to click the 
window title.  Is there a way to get windows to raise when I click 
anywhere in them?


4) What file types can be used for icons in EAP files?  At the moment 
I'm just using PNG files.  Is there a performance difference for one 
file type vs. another?


5) Is there documentation for editing themes?  I realize that they're 
compiled binary files, what tools are used to create them?  I notice in 
the screen shots for themes on get-e.org that a lot more is changed than 
what I see changed when I apply the theme.  For example, the clock in 
the Clean theme is not applied, I still see the default clock.  Is there 
something more I need to do?  Can I mix/match theme components?



(Made a full switch from KDE to E17 today... damn this is pretty.)



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Re: [e-users] New User E17 Questions

2005-08-30 Thread Der Lockruf des Kaos
 3) And I notice that the only way to raise a window is to click the 
 window title.  Is there a way to get windows to raise when I click 
 anywhere in them?
I know several Variant to raise a Window. The easiest in my Opinion is just to 
move the Cursor somewhere over the Window you want to raise, and then hold ALT 
and just click. That should raise the Window. I always use this because 90% of 
my Windows doesn't have a Titlebar, because there're borderless. :) (Saves some 
Space)
(Alt+Click+Dragging moves a Window in the same Way.)
Another Way is to set the default Behaviour. If you want to automatically raise 
a Window, if you hover over it then you can use enlightenment_remote.
enlightenment_remote --help gives a Summary of all Commands, you can trigger.

If guess this would be the appropriate One for you:
enlightenment_remote -use-auto-raise-get
enlightenment_remote -use-auto-raise-set 0 or 1

With get you get the current Value of this Option, with set you can set the 
wanted Value.

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Re: [e-users] New User E17 Questions

2005-08-30 Thread Francois Baudens
enlightenment_remote -focus-policy-set CLICK
to set the click focus policy - you can click anywhere in the
window to focus it and the focus stays while you move the cursor out
of the window.

Hope it helps
François

2005/8/30, David P. Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 1) At first I thought the menus were being lost off-screen if I click
 too close to the edge, but I just noticed that they move if I push the
 cursor towards the edge.  Very cool.  Regardless, is there a way to get
 the menus to smart render entirely on-screen when I click?
 
 2) Also, is there a way to get the focus to stay in a window when the
 cursor leaves to the desktop, not to another window?
 
 3) And I notice that the only way to raise a window is to click the
 window title.  Is there a way to get windows to raise when I click
 anywhere in them?
 
 4) What file types can be used for icons in EAP files?  At the moment
 I'm just using PNG files.  Is there a performance difference for one
 file type vs. another?
 
 5) Is there documentation for editing themes?  I realize that they're
 compiled binary files, what tools are used to create them?  I notice in
 the screen shots for themes on get-e.org that a lot more is changed than
 what I see changed when I apply the theme.  For example, the clock in
 the Clean theme is not applied, I still see the default clock.  Is there
 something more I need to do?  Can I mix/match theme components?
 
 
 (Made a full switch from KDE to E17 today... damn this is pretty.)
 
 
 
 Regards,
 David P. Donahue
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.cyber0ne.com
 
 
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Re: [e-users] New User E17 Questions

2005-08-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:59:38 -0400 David P. Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 1) At first I thought the menus were being lost off-screen if I click 
 too close to the edge, but I just noticed that they move if I push the 
 cursor towards the edge.  Very cool.  Regardless, is there a way to get 
 the menus to smart render entirely on-screen when I click?

currently - no.

 2) Also, is there a way to get the focus to stay in a window when the 
 cursor leaves to the desktop, not to another window?

change to sloppy focus (see enlightenment_remote)

 3) And I notice that the only way to raise a window is to click the 
 window title.  Is there a way to get windows to raise when I click 
 anywhere in them?

alt+click or enable clicks always raise windows option in enlightenment_remote

 4) What file types can be used for icons in EAP files?  At the moment 
 I'm just using PNG files.  Is there a performance difference for one 
 file type vs. another?

eaps are compiled from src data - they no longer have anything to do with the
original source format. the image data is re-encoded into eet's image data
storage mechanisms. these are designed to be compact and fast wherever possible.

 5) Is there documentation for editing themes?  I realize that they're 
 compiled binary files, what tools are used to create them?  I notice in 
 the screen shots for themes on get-e.org that a lot more is changed than 
 what I see changed when I apply the theme.  For example, the clock in 
 the Clean theme is not applied, I still see the default clock.  Is there 
 something more I need to do?  Can I mix/match theme components?

they are edje files. you compile these from source (generally .edc files) using
edje_cc. see www.get-e.org for info. www.cuddletech.com has an edje cookbook -
a bit old though. there are other places too for info on how edje works. its a
bit like flash/swf in some ways. you'll need to come to grips with edje to make
themes. once u have edje under the belt modifying an existing theme will be no
trouble. youc an decompile a theme with edje_decc (the default theme doesnt
decompile - i know. i need to fix that eventually in the decompiler). you can
see all the .edc soruces in e17's src tree - or try another theme to
decompile :)

 (Made a full switch from KDE to E17 today... damn this is pretty.)

but not complete! :(

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[e-users] New user.

2004-10-30 Thread krieg
Hi, i'm a new enlightenment user.

and the welcome?




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Re: [e-users] New user.

2004-10-30 Thread The Rasterman
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Re: [e-users] new user, seeking a little help

2004-05-07 Thread The Rasterman
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Re: [e-users] new user

2003-06-01 Thread Oliver Beyer
ricardoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 29.05.03 22:57:40:
 
   
   Hi friend...
 
 
   I'm a new user this list, i'm from Brazil...
 
   Well, first basic question.
 
   How i insert icon in the desktop!?
 
   :-)
 
   Other, and my Userr Application List, just have 5 elements. This  is 
 correct!? In the User Menu, have GNOME, but i'm don't have gnome, just kde.

To regenerate your menus press middle mouse button, and enlightenment menu pops up, 
find maintenance and click on Regenerate Menus.
To add new entrys, edit the *.menu files
in /your_home_directory/.enlightenment

good luck!
musketaquid

 
   Sorry, but my inglish is so bad...
 
   Tks for all.
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Re: [e-users] new user-- Adding icon and generating menus (fwd)

2003-06-01 Thread Didier Casse
For some reasons, this mail didn't go out!


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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:27:50 +0800 (SGT)
From: Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ricardoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [e-users] new user-- Adding icon and generating menus

On Thu, 29 May 2003, ricardoa wrote:

   
   Hi friend...
 
 
   I'm a new user this list, i'm from Brazil...
 
   Well, first basic question.
 
   How i insert icon in the desktop!?


This is not considered to be a basic question I believe. The answer is:

I used this recipe to put icons on my desktop:
 
 in your ~/.enlightenment/themes/whatever_theme/
 
 you'll find imageclasses.cfg which add something like:
 
 
 __ICLASS __BGN
 __NAME ICONBAR_MYPC
 __NORMAL buttons/images/xterm.png
 __HILITED buttons/images/xterm2.png
 __CLICKED buttons/images/xterm3.png
 __END
 -
 and you have to place the png icon files in 
 ~/.enlightenment/themes/whatever_theme/buttons/images/  folder
 
 then in your ~/.enlightenment/themes/whatever_theme/
 add to buttons.cfg the following:
 
 ---
 __BUTTON __BGN
   __NAME ICONBAR_XTERM
   __ICLASS ICONBAR_XTERM
   __ACLASS ICONBAR_XTERM
 __KEEP_ON_TOP __OFF
 __USE_SIZE_OF_IMAGE __ON
 __MAKE_STICKY __OFF
 __SHOW_BY_DEFAULT __ON
   __X_ORIGIN 0
   __Y_ORIGIN 0
   __X_PERCENTAGE 224
   __X_ABSOLUTE 0
   __Y_PERCENTAGE 1024
   __Y_ABSOLUTE -64
 __END
  
 
 then finally  ~/.enlightenment/themes/whatever_theme/
 add to actionclasses.cfg the following:
 
 ---
 __ACLASS __BGN
 __NAME ICONBAR_MYPC
 __TOOLTIP_TEXT DESKTOP ICON
 __TYPE __TYPE_NORMAL
 __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT My Xterm
 __BUTTON 1
 __EVENT __MOUSE_RELEASE
 __ACTION __A_EXEC xterm
 __END
 
 
 and you'll be done with it!
 


   Other, and my Userr Application List, just have 5 elements. This  is 
 correct!? In the User Menu, have GNOME, but i'm don't have gnome, just kde.
 
   Sorry, but my inglish is so bad...
 
   Tks for all.
 



Use these tools to generate your KDE Menus

 menuConvert_SystemToE 0.1.4 - converts gnome and kde menus to E menus.
 http://proper.simreg.net/site/software1.shtml
 
 e16 Menu Edit - GUI for editing E menus [This is indispensible]
 http://www.sarcastic-bastard.com/media/e16menuedit-0.1.tar.gz


Before asking questions, you might wanna check the archives at 
  
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=810

to see if other people have asked the same questions before. The 
questions you just 
asked appeared in previous postings.


regards,
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Re: [e-users] new user-- Adding icon and generating menus

2003-05-30 Thread Didier Casse
On Thu, 29 May 2003, ricardoa wrote:

   
   Hi friend...
 
 
   I'm a new user this list, i'm from Brazil...
 
   Well, first basic question.
 
   How i insert icon in the desktop!?


This is not considered to be a basic question I believe. The answer is:

I used this recipe to put icons on my desktop:
 
 in your ~/.enlightenment/themes/whatever_theme/
 
 you'll find imageclasses.cfg which add something like:
 
 
 __ICLASS __BGN
 __NAME ICONBAR_MYPC
 __NORMAL buttons/images/xterm.png
 __HILITED buttons/images/xterm2.png
 __CLICKED buttons/images/xterm3.png
 __END
 -
 and you have to place the png icon files in 
 ~/.enlightenment/themes/whatever_theme/buttons/images/  folder
 
 then in your ~/.enlightenment/themes/whatever_theme/
 add to buttons.cfg the following:
 
 ---
 __BUTTON __BGN
   __NAME ICONBAR_XTERM
   __ICLASS ICONBAR_XTERM
   __ACLASS ICONBAR_XTERM
 __KEEP_ON_TOP __OFF
 __USE_SIZE_OF_IMAGE __ON
 __MAKE_STICKY __OFF
 __SHOW_BY_DEFAULT __ON
   __X_ORIGIN 0
   __Y_ORIGIN 0
   __X_PERCENTAGE 224
   __X_ABSOLUTE 0
   __Y_PERCENTAGE 1024
   __Y_ABSOLUTE -64
 __END
  
 
 then finally  ~/.enlightenment/themes/whatever_theme/
 add to actionclasses.cfg the following:
 
 ---
 __ACLASS __BGN
 __NAME ICONBAR_MYPC
 __TOOLTIP_TEXT DESKTOP ICON
 __TYPE __TYPE_NORMAL
 __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT My Xterm
 __BUTTON 1
 __EVENT __MOUSE_RELEASE
 __ACTION __A_EXEC xterm
 __END
 
 
 and you'll be done with it!
 


   Other, and my Userr Application List, just have 5 elements. This  is 
 correct!? In the User Menu, have GNOME, but i'm don't have gnome, just kde.
 
   Sorry, but my inglish is so bad...
 
   Tks for all.
 



Use these tools to generate your KDE Menus

 menuConvert_SystemToE 0.1.4 - converts gnome and kde menus to E menus.
 http://proper.simreg.net/site/software1.shtml
 
 e16 Menu Edit - GUI for editing E menus [This is indispensible]
 http://www.sarcastic-bastard.com/media/e16menuedit-0.1.tar.gz


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http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=810

to see if other people have asked the same questions before. The 
questions you just 
asked appeared in previous postings.


regards,
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