[e-users] e18 - first impressions
Hi All, Thanks for e18 which I have now installed on my main gentoo desktop and can test it more thoroughly. I'm running it on a laptop with 1st generation i7 CPU and Radeon HD4670 with the open source radeon driver: product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz product: RV730/M96-XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4670] COMPOSITING When I first started it up I noticed that it had switched composite to software, but switching it back to OpenGL had no problems and the windows became smoother and faster. I'm guessing this was a safe default on a first run, or is there more science into it? RESOURCE USAGE With kmail, gkrellm and a few gadgets running top shows: enlightenment %CPU=5.9 %MEM=2.4 while composing this message. The CPU jumps from 3.6% up to 7.6%, but switching between windows causes it to jump up to 14.5%. When playing video on say 1/4 of the screen top shows this: enlightenment %CPU=18.5 %MEM=2.4 mplayer %CPU=10.5 %MEM=0.6 The e18 %CPU goes up to 28% at times and no less than 17%, while mplayer is pretty much stable and won't go above 12%. Is this to be expected for my hardware, or should I be tweaking any settings? I'm thinking this can be a problem when running on battery. MODULES A question on modules: forecasts and tclock have depedencies on older 1.7.9 libraries and won't load. Are these going to be updated to be compatible with e18? SUSPEND This went really bad. It suspended seemingly OK, but when waking up it hang showing a black screen with a small mouse icon on it. The mouse was locked and so was the keyboard. After a few seconds the fan notched up a gear. With a locked keyboard I was unable to recover from this and I had to hard reboot - not nice. On a laptop this is a functionality that will certainly miss! Is this a known problem with e18 and how can I overcome it? Thanks again to all who have contributed to e18! :-) -- Regards, Mick -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do that. Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved. Pretty sure there was something in the change log about that. ~Jeff Hoogland Bodhi Linux - http://www.bodhilinux.com/ On Dec 28, 2013 8:06 AM, "Mick" wrote: > Hi All, > > Thanks for e18 which I have now installed on my main gentoo desktop and can > test it more thoroughly. > > I'm running it on a laptop with 1st generation i7 CPU and Radeon HD4670 > with > the open source radeon driver: > > product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz > > product: RV730/M96-XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4670] > > > COMPOSITING > > When I first started it up I noticed that it had switched composite to > software, but switching it back to OpenGL had no problems and the windows > became smoother and faster. I'm guessing this was a safe default on a > first > run, or is there more science into it? > > > RESOURCE USAGE > > With kmail, gkrellm and a few gadgets running top shows: > > enlightenment %CPU=5.9 %MEM=2.4 > > while composing this message. The CPU jumps from 3.6% up to 7.6%, but > switching between windows causes it to jump up to 14.5%. > > > When playing video on say 1/4 of the screen top shows this: > enlightenment %CPU=18.5 %MEM=2.4 > mplayer %CPU=10.5 %MEM=0.6 > > The e18 %CPU goes up to 28% at times and no less than 17%, while mplayer is > pretty much stable and won't go above 12%. Is this to be expected for my > hardware, or should I be tweaking any settings? I'm thinking this can be a > problem when running on battery. > > > MODULES > > A question on modules: forecasts and tclock have depedencies on older > 1.7.9 > libraries and won't load. Are these going to be updated to be compatible > with > e18? > > > SUSPEND > > This went really bad. It suspended seemingly OK, but when waking up it > hang > showing a black screen with a small mouse icon on it. The mouse was locked > and so was the keyboard. After a few seconds the fan notched up a gear. > With > a locked keyboard I was unable to recover from this and I had to hard > reboot - > not nice. On a laptop this is a functionality that will certainly miss! > Is > this a known problem with e18 and how can I overcome it? > > > Thanks again to all who have contributed to e18! :-) > > -- > Regards, > Mick > > > -- > Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT > organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance > affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your > Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics > Pro! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 14:35:17 Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do
> that.
Thanks Jeff,
It wants to pull in all these old dependencies:
# emerge -uaDv x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/eina-1.7.9 USE="mempool-chained-pool mempool-one-
big mmx nls sse sse2 (-altivec) -debug -default-mempool -doc -mempool-buddy -
mempool-fixed-bitmap -mempool-pass-through -static-libs {-test} -valgrind" 0
kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/eet-1.7.9 USE="nls ssl -debug -doc -examples -
gnutls -static-libs {-test}" 0 kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/embryo-1.7.9 USE="nls -doc -static-libs" 0 kB
[ebuild N~] media-libs/evas-1.7.9 USE="X bmp eet fontconfig gif ico jpeg
mmx nls opengl png ppm psd sse tiff xcb (-altivec) -bidi -directfb -doc -fbcon
-gles -sse3 -static-libs -tga -wayland -xpm" 0 kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/ecore-1.7.9 USE="X evas inotify ipv6 nls opengl sdl
ssl threads xcb -ares -curl -directfb -doc -examples -fbcon -gles -glib -
gnutls -static-libs -tslib -wayland -xinerama -xprint -xscreensaver" 0 kB
[ebuild N~] media-libs/edje-1.7.9 USE="cache nls -debug -doc -static-
libs -vim-syntax" 0 kB
[ebuild rR *] x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts-::enlightenment USE="nls
-doc" 0 kB
> Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved. Pretty
> sure there was something in the change log about that.
I'm still on enlightenment-0.18.1, but here's something odd: I tried to
suspend to RAM once more and there was no problem with it ...
On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment-
recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread:
ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP
but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it.
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Regards,
Mick
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Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 16:27:31 Mick wrote: > On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment- > recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread: > > ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP > > but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it. OK, I minimised its impact by symlinking it to /dev/null for now as suggested in a previous thread. Another think I noticed in the log file: ESTART: 0.13890 [0.00176] - E_Xkb Init Done ESTART: 0.13893 [0.3] - E_Dnd Init ESTART: 0.13921 [0.00028] - E_Dnd Init Done ESTART: 0.13923 [0.2] - screens: manage roots ERRmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ERRmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ERRmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ... [recurring] ERRmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ERRmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ERRmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_texture.c:477 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 14: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. ESTART: 0.36723 [0.22800] - screens: sync ESTART: 0.36727 [0.5] - Screens Init Done ESTART: 0.36744 [0.00017] - E_Acpi Init ESTART: 0.36747 [0.2] - E_Acpi Init Done ESTART: 0.36747 [0.1] - E_Backlight Init ESTART: 0.36981 [0.00234] - E_Backlight Init Done ESTART: 0.36983 [0.2] - E_Screensaver Init ESTART: 0.36998 [0.00016] - E_Screensaver Init Done ESTART: 0.36999 [0.1] - E_Dpms Init Later on this: ESTART: 0.38592 [0.1] - Run Startup Apps ESTART: 0.38593 [0.2] - Run Startup Apps Done ESTART: 0.38594 [0.1] - E_Container Thaw ESTART: 0.38595 [0.1] - E_Container Thaw Done ESTART: 0.38596 [0.1] - E_Test Init ESTART: 0.38597 [0.1] - E_Test Done ESTART: 0.38597 [0.1] - E_Shelf Init ESTART: 0.38598 [0.1] - E_Shelf Init Done ESTART: 0.38599 [0.1] - Manage all windows ESTART: 0.41060 [0.02461] - MAIN LOOP AT LAST ESTART: 0.48657 [0.07596] - SLEEP ERR<>lib/eina/eina_file_common.c:510 safety check failed: file == NULL ERR<>lib/eina/eina_file_common.c:510 safety check failed: file == NULL ERR<>lib/eina/eina_file_common.c:510 safety check failed: file == NULL E_RANDR Event: Screen Change: 1920 1080 Config Timestamp Changed E_RANDR Event: Output Change Output: 81 No Crtc Mode: 0 Output Disconnected Looping Our Crtc Configs Finally, these errors are recorded: ESTART: 1.07977 [0.01674] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.09630 [0.01652] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.11302 [0.01672] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.12977 [0.01675] - SLEEP ERR<>lib/eina/eina_file_common.c:510 safety check failed: file == NULL ESTART: 1.16628 [0.03652] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.17992 [0.01364] - SLEEP ERR<7485>:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda1, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ESTART: 1.19718 [0.01727] - SLEEP ERR<7485>:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda2, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ERR<7485>:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda10 , error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. [...snip] ERR<7485>:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda7, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ERR<7485>:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda9, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ESTART: 1.21369 [0.01651] - SLEEP ERR<7485>:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/ST9500420ASG_5VJ377P2, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ESTART: 1.25939 [0.04570] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.27992 [0.02054] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.29779 [0.01786] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.31957 [0.02179] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.33169 [0.01211] - SLEEP -- Regards, Mick ---
Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
This is an issue with your package manager, not the source code.
~Jeff Hoogland
Bodhi Linux - http://www.bodhilinux.com/
On Dec 28, 2013 10:29 AM, "Mick" wrote:
> On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 14:35:17 Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> > Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do
> > that.
>
> Thanks Jeff,
>
> It wants to pull in all these old dependencies:
>
> # emerge -uaDv x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild N~] dev-libs/eina-1.7.9 USE="mempool-chained-pool
> mempool-one-
> big mmx nls sse sse2 (-altivec) -debug -default-mempool -doc
> -mempool-buddy -
> mempool-fixed-bitmap -mempool-pass-through -static-libs {-test} -valgrind"
> 0
> kB
> [ebuild N~] dev-libs/eet-1.7.9 USE="nls ssl -debug -doc -examples -
> gnutls -static-libs {-test}" 0 kB
> [ebuild N~] dev-libs/embryo-1.7.9 USE="nls -doc -static-libs" 0 kB
> [ebuild N~] media-libs/evas-1.7.9 USE="X bmp eet fontconfig gif ico
> jpeg
> mmx nls opengl png ppm psd sse tiff xcb (-altivec) -bidi -directfb -doc
> -fbcon
> -gles -sse3 -static-libs -tga -wayland -xpm" 0 kB
> [ebuild N~] dev-libs/ecore-1.7.9 USE="X evas inotify ipv6 nls opengl
> sdl
> ssl threads xcb -ares -curl -directfb -doc -examples -fbcon -gles -glib -
> gnutls -static-libs -tslib -wayland -xinerama -xprint -xscreensaver" 0 kB
> [ebuild N~] media-libs/edje-1.7.9 USE="cache nls -debug -doc -static-
> libs -vim-syntax" 0 kB
> [ebuild rR *] x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts-::enlightenment
> USE="nls
> -doc" 0 kB
>
>
> > Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved.
> Pretty
> > sure there was something in the change log about that.
>
> I'm still on enlightenment-0.18.1, but here's something odd: I tried to
> suspend to RAM once more and there was no problem with it ...
>
> On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment-
> recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread:
>
> ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP
>
> but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>
>
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Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
On 28/12/2013 18:27, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 14:35:17 Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>> Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do
>> that.
>
> Thanks Jeff,
>
> It wants to pull in all these old dependencies:
>
> # emerge -uaDv x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild N~] dev-libs/eina-1.7.9 USE="mempool-chained-pool mempool-one-
> big mmx nls sse sse2 (-altivec) -debug -default-mempool -doc -mempool-buddy -
> mempool-fixed-bitmap -mempool-pass-through -static-libs {-test} -valgrind" 0
> kB
> [ebuild N~] dev-libs/eet-1.7.9 USE="nls ssl -debug -doc -examples -
> gnutls -static-libs {-test}" 0 kB
> [ebuild N~] dev-libs/embryo-1.7.9 USE="nls -doc -static-libs" 0 kB
> [ebuild N~] media-libs/evas-1.7.9 USE="X bmp eet fontconfig gif ico
> jpeg
> mmx nls opengl png ppm psd sse tiff xcb (-altivec) -bidi -directfb -doc
> -fbcon
> -gles -sse3 -static-libs -tga -wayland -xpm" 0 kB
> [ebuild N~] dev-libs/ecore-1.7.9 USE="X evas inotify ipv6 nls opengl
> sdl
> ssl threads xcb -ares -curl -directfb -doc -examples -fbcon -gles -glib -
> gnutls -static-libs -tslib -wayland -xinerama -xprint -xscreensaver" 0 kB
> [ebuild N~] media-libs/edje-1.7.9 USE="cache nls -debug -doc -static-
> libs -vim-syntax" 0 kB
> [ebuild rR *] x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts-::enlightenment
> USE="nls
> -doc" 0 kB
enlightenment overlay has only been updated for e18 and efl.
All the other stuff in there like external modules is still for e17.
Maintainer probably needs a prod, I dunno who to contact as metadata.xml
says there is no herd :-(
>> Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved. Pretty
>> sure there was something in the change log about that.
>
> I'm still on enlightenment-0.18.1, but here's something odd: I tried to
> suspend to RAM once more and there was no problem with it ...
>
> On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment-
> recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread:
>
> ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP
>
> but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it.
It's fixed in 0.18.2
You could probably patch it yourself (it's one initialization
statement), the code fix was in a reply to this list in the last 48 hours
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Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 21:26:08 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 28/12/2013 18:27, Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 14:35:17 Jeff Hoogland wrote: > >> Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do > >> that. > > > > Thanks Jeff, > > > > It wants to pull in all these old dependencies: > > # emerge -uaDv x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts > > > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: [...snip] > enlightenment overlay has only been updated for e18 and efl. > > All the other stuff in there like external modules is still for e17. > Maintainer probably needs a prod, I dunno who to contact as metadata.xml > says there is no herd :-( > > >> Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved. > >> Pretty sure there was something in the change log about that. > > > > I'm still on enlightenment-0.18.1, but here's something odd: I tried to > > suspend to RAM once more and there was no problem with it ... > > > > On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in > > ~/.enlightenment- recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous > > thread: > > > > ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP > > > > but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it. > > It's fixed in 0.18.2 > > You could probably patch it yourself (it's one initialization > statement), the code fix was in a reply to this list in the last 48 hours Thanks Alan! I will send a message to the maintainer. -- Regards, Mick -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 23:53:03 Mick wrote: > On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 21:26:08 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > It's fixed in 0.18.2 > > > > You could probably patch it yourself (it's one initialization > > statement), the code fix was in a reply to this list in the last 48 hours > > Thanks Alan! I will send a message to the maintainer. I was advised that the portage tree needs to play catch up before the modules are brought up to date. So, some time soon efl on the tree will be brought up to probably 1.8.4 and the modules' dependencies updated accordingly. -- Regards, Mick -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
