Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?
On the 2013 (and later) model LEAFs, like the one the OP was inquiring about, you don't have to deal with the semi-ambiguous charge bars. There's an option for a direct numeric percentage display which is much more useful/readable. Battery temp is still indicated by the left bar display, which works adequately for that use. On our car it does change, tending a bit lower in winter and higher in summer. It hasn't exceeded the indicated limits. Cheers, -Jamie On 6/5/15 5:07 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: On Jun 3, 2015, at 5:51 PM, Ben Goren wrote: On Jun 3, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: The guess-o-meter provides neither number. Ignoring the guess-o-meter for the moment...how accurate is the remaining charge meter? Can one use it mentally like one does the gas gauge on an ICE vehicle? That is, if you know that you typically get 100 miles on a full "tank" and the meter shows you've got a quarter "tank" left, you better not plan on going much more than twenty miles before charging and even that's pushing your luck. Does that sort of thing work? The remaining charge meter is not linear, but seems to be consistent, at least for my 2011 Leaf. When I charge fully (100% vs 80%), I get 12 bars (all of them) on the gauge. The 12th bar lasts for about 3 miles on residential/commercial streets (25mph - 45mph, traffic signals and stop signs). The 11th bar lasts for another 4.5 (sometimes as much as 5) miles. The 10th bar lasts at most 2.5 miles. I can get about 35 miles on the top 8 bars if I never go over 50mph and never accelerate hard enough to have more than four power dots filled (N.B. one is always filled even when stopped). I can get another 37 miles on the bottom four bars: 10 miles on the last bar, 20 on the last two, 29 on the last three and 37 on the last four. Keeping the speed under 35mph and accelerating more gently, I can get another mile or so per bar. One annoying thing is that the system removes a charge meter bar every time it is power cycled if the charge left is less than some threshold of the bar removed. I have not been able to determine this threshold. It eventually recovers from this. If I’m on a trip where I care, I remember the gauge reading before I power down the car. My leaf has a 16.5KWH usable capacity pack. I don’t believe this has changed that much in the 41K miles and 46 months I’ve had the car. When I use it to what I interpret as completely dead (about 3 miles of residential/commercial streets after the very low battery warning where it shuts off the meter), charging to what it indicates as 100% (12 bars on the meter) takes a little less than 5 hours. Assuming my charger is 3.3KW this is about 16.5KWH. The display on the center console says I am averaging 3.9 miles/KWH while the display on the dash says I’m averaging 3.8 miles/KWH. This seems consistent with the 16.5KWH capacity and the total range. I assume I do a bit better than this when I’m trying to drive efficiently. I rarely need to drive efficiently though. The routes I typically travel are well within the range of the car, so I rarely even look at anything other than the speedometer. I plug it in every night and it charges off peak and I start each day with 80% charge. I have 5 bars on the temperature meter. I don’t think that has ever changed. Maybe that gauge is broken in my car. At any rate it is useless they way it is, so I don’t look at it much either. There is the silly gauge that constructs pine trees or something. This does indicate something, but I haven’t been able to correlate it with anything. The longer I drive without power cycling, the more trees it builds, so maybe it is some sort of low resolution inverse range or charge indication. I ignore the tree gauge too. Ed ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?
> On Jun 3, 2015, at 5:51 PM, Ben Goren wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: > >> The guess-o-meter provides neither number. > > Ignoring the guess-o-meter for the moment...how accurate is the remaining > charge meter? Can one use it mentally like one does the gas gauge on an ICE > vehicle? That is, if you know that you typically get 100 miles on a full > "tank" and the meter shows you've got a quarter "tank" left, you better not > plan on going much more than twenty miles before charging and even that's > pushing your luck. Does that sort of thing work? The remaining charge meter is not linear, but seems to be consistent, at least for my 2011 Leaf. When I charge fully (100% vs 80%), I get 12 bars (all of them) on the gauge. The 12th bar lasts for about 3 miles on residential/commercial streets (25mph - 45mph, traffic signals and stop signs). The 11th bar lasts for another 4.5 (sometimes as much as 5) miles. The 10th bar lasts at most 2.5 miles. I can get about 35 miles on the top 8 bars if I never go over 50mph and never accelerate hard enough to have more than four power dots filled (N.B. one is always filled even when stopped). I can get another 37 miles on the bottom four bars: 10 miles on the last bar, 20 on the last two, 29 on the last three and 37 on the last four. Keeping the speed under 35mph and accelerating more gently, I can get another mile or so per bar. One annoying thing is that the system removes a charge meter bar every time it is power cycled if the charge left is less than some threshold of the bar removed. I have not been able to determine this threshold. It eventually recovers from this. If I’m on a trip where I care, I remember the gauge reading before I power down the car. My leaf has a 16.5KWH usable capacity pack. I don’t believe this has changed that much in the 41K miles and 46 months I’ve had the car. When I use it to what I interpret as completely dead (about 3 miles of residential/commercial streets after the very low battery warning where it shuts off the meter), charging to what it indicates as 100% (12 bars on the meter) takes a little less than 5 hours. Assuming my charger is 3.3KW this is about 16.5KWH. The display on the center console says I am averaging 3.9 miles/KWH while the display on the dash says I’m averaging 3.8 miles/KWH. This seems consistent with the 16.5KWH capacity and the total range. I assume I do a bit better than this when I’m trying to drive efficiently. I rarely need to drive efficiently though. The routes I typically travel are well within the range of the car, so I rarely even look at anything other than the speedometer. I plug it in every night and it charges off peak and I start each day with 80% charge. I have 5 bars on the temperature meter. I don’t think that has ever changed. Maybe that gauge is broken in my car. At any rate it is useless they way it is, so I don’t look at it much either. There is the silly gauge that constructs pine trees or something. This does indicate something, but I haven’t been able to correlate it with anything. The longer I drive without power cycling, the more trees it builds, so maybe it is some sort of low resolution inverse range or charge indication. I ignore the tree gauge too. Ed ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Trey German's chariot of Fire e-quadricycle>20"bikes+Prius-cells
http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/texas-instruments-trey-german-will-build-just-about-anything.html/
Texas Instruments’ Trey German will build just about anything
Sheryl Jean June 5, 2015
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Texas Instruments’ Trey German built an electric racing vehicle out of many
different parts — some from his employer
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Trey German had the most projects – three — in Texas Instruments Inc.’s
giant science fair for its employees last week ...
German was one of 20 TI employees who showed off their inventions at the
semiconductor company’s third annual “DIY with TI” event at its Dallas
headquarters.
He built an electric racing vehicle using TI motor controllers, a power
amplifier; Prius batter cells; kid’s bicycles; and other odd parts. German
took the vehicle, which looks more like a cart, to the Maker Faire in San
Mateo, Calif., last month.
The vehicle raced, but ran into some “bad luck,” German said, so he’s back
working on it ...
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Power Racing Series' electric racers: Not your grandfather's kiddie cars!
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On the way over to the race course, we bumped into Trey German, a superstar
embedded developer and a TI Mastermind. Among his recent accomplishments,
Trey's created TI's popular CC3200-powered Quad Copter Booster Pack kit. It
turns out that Trey is also a big Power Racing enthusiast and would be
competing in a car he'd built as a demo for TI to showcase in the booth. He
had been working on the car most of the day and I'd gotten to watch what
he'd been doing from the shelf where I sit on in between doing my own demos.
Trey wasn't in the race I saw, but it was pretty spectacular anyway. I've
never seen toy cars go so fast! And the driver's costumes were pretty
spectacular too, complete with capes, goggles, masks, and on one intrepid
driver, a pair of Viking horns. But Mark, Trey and I all agreed that they
might have been even cooler if they'd had some LEDs on them ...
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Trey German
Open Source Hardware/Software, Wiring, Rapid Prototyping, LaunchPad, IoT,
and General Awesomeness
Houston, Texas AreaElectrical/Electronic Manufacturing
Current Texas Instruments
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Trey German MCU Rapidly prototype TI enabled solutions with modular
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Motion Control Comes to Masses with TI Launchpad
Rich Quinnell 1/23/2015 ... The pre-loaded motor control libraries greatly
simplify the development of motion control systems using brushless DC
motors. "With brushed DC motors you just apply power and it turns," TI's
Launchpad apps manager Trey German said in an interview with EE Times, "but
you have to deliberately commutate brushless motors, energizing the coils at
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lightning-strike on charging Tesla-S> EV loses it (v)
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Re: [EVDL] Success!
/"This testing is not much value when trying to compare cells ability to last a long time."/ That wasn't the point. He was just showing that the CC/CV transition voltage in the manufacturer charging spec is for the charging current in the spec, and you can go higher without causing immediate damage (swelling) to the cell when charging at higher current as long as you don't go to high enough voltage to break down the electrolyte. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Success-tp4675905p4676040.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Success!
http://vtb.engr.sc.edu/vtbwebsite/downloads/publications/capacityfade_JPSPaper2.pdf Here is one study on the effects of different voltage cutoff points using CC-CV charging. I believe this was well before DIYers were using them. From: David Nelson To: Paul Dove Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Success! Actually, those procedures were developed by customer feedback mostly! As some of us started reducing the ending voltage so did the spec sheets of TS, CALB, et al. Do you have references for those procedures being developed prior to 5 years ago? I haven't been able to find them. Maybe it was just the Chinese manufacturers who did that but then they were some of the only ones who would sell us DIY people batteries. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Paul Dove wrote: > Sorry about that my dog hit my arm and hit send by accident. Sure one can > develop their own procedure however, these procedures were developed in a > laboratory and the batteries dissected afterwards to see the effect. My point > was anything over 3.38 V is charging the cell > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Paul Dove via EV wrote: >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 11:27 PM, David Nelson wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Paul Dove via EV >>>> wrote: >>>> Yes I suppose this is confusing. Let them ion batteries are charged >>>> according to a procedure. Let's take lithium iron phosphate for example. >>>> According to the procedures you charge to 3.65 V constant current. Then >>>> you hold the voltage at 3.65 and taper the current to C/20. >>> >>> Remember that that procedure was developed to reduce time to charge and the >>> chance that the batteries get overcharged while still reaching 100%SOC or >>> nearly so. >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> -- David D. Nelson http://evalbum.com/1328 http://www.levforum.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150605/20f5d1b9/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Tesla's $1k bug bounty programme> To Hackers That Find Web Weaknesses
Tesla's $1k bug bounty programme> To Hackers That Find Web Weaknesses
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/06/04/tesla-1000-bug-bounty-but-no-cars/
Tesla Offers To Pay Hackers $1,000 To Find Its Web Weaknesses, But What
About Its Cars?
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Tesla has gone official with a bug bounty programme for its website on the
Bugcrowd platform, offering anything between $25 and $1,000 for each
vulnerability, though it won’t be doing anything similar for it’s vehicles
just yet.
That $1,000 pretty low in comparison to the likes of Facebook and Google,
who have handed out prizes as high as $33,000 and $22,000, but Tesla doesn’t
have anything like the same web footprint as those two web giants.
Elon Musk’s electric car maker has been congratulated by the security
community for its willingness to work with the benevolent hackers. It set up
its own, somewhat disorganised bug bounty program with a Hall of Fame, but
it now wants a more formal process in place.
“We are committed to working with this community to verify, reproduce, and
respond to legitimate reported vulnerabilities. We encourage the community
to participate in our responsible reporting process,” the blurb on Bugcrowd
read.
Contributors can only report on tesla.com and must give Tesla “a reasonable
time to correct the issue before making any information public”. There’s
also a long list of what kinds of issues can’t be reported as well as
smaller one for what can.
Anyone who believes they have found a problem in a Tesla vehicle should
email vulnerabil...@teslamotors.com, rather than going to Bugcrowd,
according to the firm. But there remains little information on how Tesla
rewards anyone who finds a bug in its cars or other products, such as its
recently-announced super-battery, or if they’re rewarded at all.
Tesla has been informed about issues in its cars and subsequently fixed them
without any notice on its site to credit researchers, one of which was on
public record and disclosed by Chinese giant Qihoo 360, and others that
FORBES has learned from sources in the research community. In none of those
cases were the researchers rewarded, FORBES understands, though Qihoo was
handed $10,000 for winning a non-official competition to hack a Tesla.
A bug bounty for car vulnerabilities would be a major step for Tesla and for
the car industry in general, though they may fear providing big incentives
for people to break the security of their cars, even if it would benefit
them and their drivers. Major market players have been keen to keep schtum
about digital security issues, even though researchers have been
highlighting flaws in cars repeatedly over the last year.
Most manufacturers apart from Tesla have been fighting anyone who wants to
tinker with their car. Led by the Auto Alliance and General Motors, car
makers have sought to maintain their right to make legal threats against
anyone who tinkers with the code in their own vehicles, fighting proposed
exemptions in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
Ted Harrington, executive partner at Independent Security Evaluators,
believes manufacturers should be taking more measures to protect people’s
lives. “When it comes to security research, the stakes are the highest when
human lives are involved. Securing the connected car is about more than just
protecting data; it is about protecting lives. In that vein, auto
manufacturers should be going to extreme lengths to harden their systems
against the most sophisticated adversaries.
“In order to fully understand and mitigate risk, a system must go through
ongoing, thorough, manual white box security assessment. With lives at
stake, auto manufacturers in the era of the connected car should consider
robust security assessment a business-critical mandate.”
According to sources, Tesla is planning to open up a vehicle or its
components at the Defcon hacker conference in August this year too, though
it has denied those claims.
However Tesla moves forward with its security program, it is at least
seeking to protect customer information on its site. One wonders whether
that will help it prevent social engineering attacks such as the one that
saw its Twitter feed and website just last month.
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[EVDL] EVLN: Lightning-strike on charging Tesla-S> EV loses it (v)
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/tesla-model-s-lightning-strike-video-shows-ev-go-haywire-while-charging-video-446002 Tesla Model S In Lightning Strike: Video Shows EV Go Haywire While Charging (VIDEO) 06/01/2015 - By Danny Choy [image http://www.idigitaltimes.com/sites/idigitaltimes.com/files/styles/large/public/2015/06/01/tesla-model-s-lightning-strike.jpg Tesla Model S Lightning Strike video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttM_rVwYgfY Lightning hits my Tesla Sarah Day May 30, 2015 Lightning struck near my Tesla while supercharging. The car went nuts and the 12v battery almost died. It couldn't even be towed because the supercharger cable couldn't be disconnected. ] Time and again, we are reminded the latest technology created by our brightest engineers are still no match to mother nature's smite. A YouTube video captured what happens when a lightning bolt strikes a Tesla Model S while it is parked outdoors and hooked up to a supercharger station. As you can see from the video below, the Tesla Model S lightning strike isn't exactly a direct hit, but it was enough to send a nasty shock to the car's circuits. According to Sarah Day, who uploaded the video from inside the white Tesla Model S, the incident completely disabled the electric car. "Lightning struck near my Tesla while supercharging. The car went nuts and the 12v battery almost died. It couldn't even be towed because the supercharger cable couldn't be disconnected," Sarah Day wrote in the Tesla lightning strike video description. In a later interview with Teslarati, Sarah explained the gauge cluster lit up with nine errors across the dash. The notifications include low charge warning, disabled functioned, and that the Tesla needed to be serviced. Unfortunately, Tesla service centers are not open on weekends so the extent of the damages in the Tesla is not clear. That said, it is a relief to know that Sarah was unharmed by the lightning strike. The Faraday effect allows a charge to distribute around the outside of a vehicle, protecting the occupants inside. Cars have been known to take on lightning strikes in the past, and mostly experience electrical, not mechanical failures, including the sensor systems, radio, GPS units, and power windows. Given that the Tesla is fully electronic and digitized, it is even more vulnerable to a lightning strike than a conventional car. Case in point, Sarah's Tesla was completely disabled. [© idigitaltimes.com] ... http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-s-struck-lightning-charging/ (Video) Tesla Model S Struck By Lightning While Charging [05/31/2015] http://jalopnik.com/heres-what-happens-when-lightning-strikes-a-charging-te-1708184871 Here's What Happens When Lightning Strikes A Charging Tesla Michael Ballaban 6/01/15 [image / Raymond Shobe http://jalopnik.com/heres-what-happens-when-lightning-strikes-a-charging-te-1708184871 ] Tesla has been pretty adamant for a while now that lightning is no unusual hazard to its all-electric Model S, any more so than lightning is a hazard to any regular car. But what looks to be a freak occurrence just captured on video shows that a bolt from the sky can, indeed, at least screw up your Tesla Model S. While the video doesn't show much beyond the bolt hitting the car, the wipers swishing back and forth, and the pitter-patter of rain, the video description from Youtube user Sarah Day fills us in on what happened: Lightning struck near my Tesla while supercharging. The car went nuts and the 12v battery almost died. It couldn't even be towed because the supercharger cable couldn't be disconnected. She went on to explain in a comment that the whole 'PARKING MODE DISABLED' bit was actually from the dashcam, not the car itself, and in an interview with Teslarati went on to detail the Christmas tree of warning lights now emanating from her dashboard: I heard the crash, and just a second or two after about 9 errors popped up on the dashboard. Some of them were low charge warnings, saying it would disable some functions. Others were on how the car needs to be serviced. I was also getting that the car can't be charged, and that the 12 volt battery is low. Which sucks. The 12-volt battery eventually shut down, too, and with it, the car's touchscreen system. The tow truck driver eventually got the 12-volt system up and running again, but it still took a few attempts. Sarah went on to detail how Tesla's support team was supremely helpful, but it was odd that the charging port wouldn't come undone. Just as well, the Supercharger fast-charging system is supposed to have a number of internal systems to protect against a sudden power surge. Though it's unclear if, in this case, a shot of lightning was powerful enough to overwhelm even those. This is an incredibly odd development from a Tesla Model S, reflecting an interesting (if rare) vulnerability for the electric car. What looks to have happened, just from what we can see here, is that the Model S may have suffered an
[EVDL] EVLN: Leaf EV Photobombs Tesla-X EV Being Spied Again in CA
'Tesla- X Test Runs on CA Streets' http://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-x-spied-again-in-california-gets-photobombed-by-nissan-leaf-95973.html Tesla Model X Spied Again in California, Gets Photobombed by Nissan Leaf by Tudor Rus 28th May 2015 [images http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/tesla-model-x-spied-again-in-california-gets-photobombed-by-nissan-leaf_1.jpg http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/tesla-model-x-spied-again-in-california-gets-photobombed-by-nissan-leaf_2.jpg http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/tesla-model-x-spied-again-in-california-gets-photobombed-by-nissan-leaf_3.jpg ] Following the recent sightings of Tesla test mules - yes, we're talking about the Model X - in California, we're starting to believe Elon Musk sends these cars on the road on purpose, so people can take photos and videos and flood the Internet with them. When you think about it, that's a clever and at the same time cheap marketing stunt. But we don't care if that theory is correct or not, as long as we get to see more pictures of the awaited Model X all-electric crossover from Tesla Motors. Last time we saw the Model X on the move, the one who photographed the electric crossover told us the car looks like a Model S with a pug nose. However, the car was only photographed from behind, so we couldn't confirm what the guy was saying. This time, the Tesla Model X was captured from the front in Los Altos, but it's wearing the traditional layer of white camouflage. However, we can't see any pug nose shape there, despite the fact that Tesla Model S styling cues are obviously present. Also, in an attempt of photobombing, a Nissan Leaf wandered around the Tesla test mule. The pictures were posted by VWVortex forum user hushypushy, and as he noticed, the rear-left door seems a bit offset. Also, the car seems a lot bigger than the Nissan Leaf, despite the fact that when seen from some angles, the two EVs look similar in size. We can't confirm this yet, but we could expect the Model S to be offered in three variants: 70 kWh, 85 kWh and 100 kWh. The two electric motors will provide the car with all-wheel drive while the battery pack should support a maximum range of 230 miles (370 km). [© autoevolution.com] ... http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/05/tesla-model-x-images-in-california/ Latest Sighting Of Tesla Model X In California By: Brendan Byrne May 29, 2015 http://masterherald.com/tesla-model-x-now-undergoing-test-runs-in-the-streets-of-california/18187/ Tesla Model X Now Undergoing Test Runs in the Streets of California! By: Ali Aslani May 31, 2015 [image http://masterherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/tesla-model-x.jpg Tesla Model X ] Tesla will be launching its all-electric crossover vehicle which the company calls as Model X in the second half of this year. Thus, it is likely that the American electric car manufacturer is seriously at work in testing the vehicle at this time. True enough, the Tesla Model X was recently sighted having its test runs in the streets of California, details Valuewalk. And it was not just sighted, there were actually photos taken to show that the electric crossover vehicle was undergoing testings recently. But marketing experts suspect that the regularity of the sightings and the photo evidences of the test runs may actually be part of the marketing stunt of Tesla to generate interest on the new all-electric crossover vehicle. Front end A few weeks ago, the Tesla Model X has also been sighted undergoing test runs. The first sighting only showed the back end of the vehicle, which according to the photographer who captured the image, looks like the Tesla Model S that was launched two years ago. The recent sighting however showed the front end of the Tesla Model X which featured a sort of squashed or pug nose, according to the onlooker who apparently captured it on photo. The image showed that the Model X was covered by a customary layer of white camouflage but it was apparent that the car’s looks indeed resemble that of the Model S. There have been scarce details about the long-awaited Model X from Tesla, which was first revealed as early as three years ago when the Tesla CEO unveiled a prototype of the electric crossover. More than 20,000 people have invested a $5,000 deposit for one of the new cars then which reportedly features falcon-wing rear doors and a space capable of conveniently seating seven passengers including the driver. It has also been reported that the all-wheel drive Tesla Model X will have three engine variants whose power will come in 70 kWh, 85 kWh and 100 kWh. It has been said also that the Model X can run a distance of 230 miles without needing to charge its electric batteries. Release date After being delayed by a year, the Tesla Model X will finally be hitting the retail markets in the second half of the year, unless Tesla comes up again with another aberration or excuse to push back the long-
[EVDL] EVLN: His 500e EV Might Get Him To Sell His BMW ice
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098486_one-mans-fiat-500e-electric-car-might-get-him-to-sell-his-bmw
One Man's Fiat 500e Electric Car Might Get Him To Sell His BMW
By John Voelcker May 28, 2015
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It's been said before, but the only way to understand why electric cars are
a better way to drive is to drive one.
The shorthand for that rule is "getting butts in seats."
That's the process of putting inexperienced drivers behind the wheel of
modern plug-in vehicles to let them experience the smooth, quiet power and
the torquey acceleration from rest.
Now comes a blog post that indicates how well that process works.
Southern California marketing executive Chris Baccus has been a friend of
Green Car Reports for a while now.
Last month, he ended up buying a 2015 Fiat 500e based on an article on the
site that described how a group of race-car enthusiasts in the San Francisco
Bay Area had collectively bought more than 100 of the little electric
minicars.
Since then, Baccus has been driving his 500e on his daily commute and using
it for family errands. How much does he like it?
As he writes, he finds his electric car so much fun to drive that he's even
considered selling his BMW convertible.
Baccus had already test-driven the Nissan Leaf, Volkswagen e-Golf, and Ford
Focus Electric, but the cheap-lease deal on the 500e was too good to pass
up.
He writes that he initially got the electric Fiat just to reduce wear and
tear on his eight-year-old BMW ragtop.
What he didn't expect, he says, is that "I would enjoy driving this tiny,
111-horsepower Fiat more than the 2007 BMW 335i convertible I still own."
He enjoys not only the instant torque, and the widely-lauded roadholding of
the 500e, but also the game aspect of seeing how many miles he can get out
of a battery charge.
With affordable electric cars with ranges of 120 to 200 miles coming onto
the market within two years, that last aspect may become less important.
But Baccus is one more demonstration of why getting butts in seats is the
single best way to sell electric cars, even at this early stage in their
tenure.
Will he sell the BMW? Baccus says he'll wait six months, in case it's just
new-car euphoria.
But the last line of his post mentions--once again--the 500e's "quick,
sporty, go-kart like driving experience." ...
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http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1075727_electric-cars-secret-advantage-theyre-just-nicer-to-drive
Electric Cars' Secret Advantage: They're Just Nicer To Drive
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http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1097299_group-buy-of-fiat-500e-electric-cars-ignites-feeding-frenzy-100-plus-bought
Group Buy Of Fiat 500e Electric Cars Ignites 'Feeding Frenzy,' 100-Plus
Bought
https://transportevolved.com/2015/05/29/fiat-500e-tempts-petrolhead-bmw-3-series-owner-dump-pump-good/
Fiat 500e Tempts Petrolhead BMW 3-Series Owner to Dump the Pump For Good
By Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield • May 29, 2015
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