Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem
Actually Cor, when I tested the Juicebox I had a meter in the J1772 Power pins and it showed 240vac from the first thunk to the 2nd thunk, when the contactor closed and when it opened. And the easiest way the contactor can be tested is to put power thru it and that is what the Juicebox does. Best to all Rush Dougherty Tucson AZ 85719 > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 12:56 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem > > I am sure that this test is done in software just to verify that everything works, just like there > is a special relay that will *create* a GFCI event just to test the detection of GFCI before > relying on it. > Most standards actually do not specify what happens in transition (such as power up) but if > it is important - the software is open source so you can simply comment out this test and if > you want to still get the proper test results, you do the test at the (first) plug-in event. > Problem solved. > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless > > office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water > XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info > > http://www.proxim.com > > This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary > information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please > delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of > any part of this message is prohibited. > > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:44 PM > To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem > > Well, according to the SAE-J1772 standard, the contactor shall not be energized during a > startup test nor any other condition than when plugging it to a car. Maybe that is one of the > reasons is not been approved. > > > Marco Gaxiola > CEO/Director > Tel: +52(662)301.1070 > Skype: info.energyev > www.energyev.com > > > > -Mensaje original- > De: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] En nombre de Cruisin via EV Enviado el: > domingo, 31 de enero de 2016 01:44 p.m. > Para: ev@lists.evdl.org > Asunto: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem > > You can get support from the people who sold you the non approved charging stations. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Juicebox-co > ntac > tor-problem-tp4680179p4680186.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11529 - Release Date: 01/31/16 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem
I am sure that this test is done in software just to verify that everything works, just like there is a special relay that will *create* a GFCI event just to test the detection of GFCI before relying on it. Most standards actually do not specify what happens in transition (such as power up) but if it is important - the software is open source so you can simply comment out this test and if you want to still get the proper test results, you do the test at the (first) plug-in event. Problem solved. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:44 PM To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Subject: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem Well, according to the SAE-J1772 standard, the contactor shall not be energized during a startup test nor any other condition than when plugging it to a car. Maybe that is one of the reasons is not been approved. Marco Gaxiola CEO/Director Tel: +52(662)301.1070 Skype: info.energyev www.energyev.com -Mensaje original- De: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] En nombre de Cruisin via EV Enviado el: domingo, 31 de enero de 2016 01:44 p.m. Para: ev@lists.evdl.org Asunto: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem You can get support from the people who sold you the non approved charging stations. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Juicebox-co ntac tor-problem-tp4680179p4680186.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: I am sure that this test is done in software just to verify that everything works, just like there is a special relay that will *create* a GFCI event just to test the detection of GFCI before relying on it. Most standards actually do not specify what happens in transition (such as power up) I agree. It is common practice for a product to test its own safety circuits automatically, one way or another. The standards were written to allow and even encourage this. Relay contacts can stick closed. If you want to be sure a relay opens, then monitor its contacts and operate it. I recall one product where it was vital that its AC output could be turned off in an emergency. So we had *two* relays, with their contacts in series (one switching one hot lead, the other switching the other). The safety test circuit closed and opened one relay while measuring its output to be sure it worked. Then it repeated this test with the other relay. Only if both passed did it turn on BOTH relays to power the load. -- Knowledge is better than belief. Belief is when someone else does your thinking. -- anonymous -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Bronko Bikes> metal and bamboo e-bicycles in San_Antonio-TX
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2016/01/25/san-antonio-electric-bicycle-startup-gears-up-to.html San Antonio electric bicycle startup gears up to start cranking out hybrid bikes Jan 25, 2016 Kristen Mosbrucker [image http://media.bizj.us/view/img/8326142/bronko-bikes*750xx3264-1833-0-84.jpg Founder of Bronko Bikes, Bryan Marin shown with his electric bicycle in San Antonio / COURTESY PHOTO ] One local entrepreneur is banking that the hills of San Antonio are steep enough to send bicyclists seeking for a speedier option while staying in the saddle. Former motorcyclist turned bicycle enthusiast Bryan Martin is the founder of Bronko Bikes, a start-up targeting the hybrid bike market. "I kind of think of e-bikes and electric vehicles today where cell phones were in the late 1990s, they were becoming more ubiquitous, useful and affordable," said Martin, adding that he missed the wind in his hair on the way to work and started crafting an electronic bicycle in 2012. Martin moved to San Antonio from Austin about a year ago and is working on another prototype of an electric bicycle that combines a mountain bike-like frame and dirt bike throttle on the handlebars. Over the next few months he plans to finish a second prototype, launch a crowd funding campaign to test the market and search for a business savvy co-founder. "I do see it as an emerging market and this business doesn't have to hinge on local sales," Martin said. It costs about $2,000 to build an [Electric] bicycle from scratch that can run up to 30 miles per hour. The selling price point is $3,000. Martin said he plans to also offer electric bicycle conversions for $700 a pop. "There are plenty of kits out there but there aren't a lot of people willing to put it together for you," he said. A lithium battery pack attached to the frame of the bicycle provides the power to spin the back wheel, much like a motorcycle, but it can also pedal using human power. The 48-volt battery is charged through a typical wall outlet and lasts about a year of heavy use. One niche market he's aiming for is the bamboo electric bicycles, which are lightweight but also sturdy. "In some cases it can be half the weight of steel and twice as strong, but also very good at absorbing road vibrations and bumps," he said. There's also opportunity to source bamboo grown in central Texas to trim shipping costs. In general, laws in Texas allow electric bicycles to share the road so long as they don't go faster than about 20 miles per hour. One thing that's been missing from the electric bicycle market is affordability and sleek design, he argued. "It needs to have sex appeal and spark the imagination," he said. [© bizjournals.com] ... https://www.facebook.com/BronkoMotorCycles/ Bronko Bikes For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Bronko-Bikes-metal-and-bamboo-e-bicycles-in-San-Antonio-TX-tp4680196.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] CEO Musk talks of a future Electric Tesla Truck, ?MI Dealership?
'Tesla applies for Michigan dealership license' http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/01/tesla-might-make-an-electric-truck/ Tesla Might Make An Electric Truck 01/28/2016 Adnan Farooqui [video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRqB5iqWA8 2016 StartmeupHK Venture Forum - Elon Musk on Entrepreneurship and Innovation Invest Hong Kong Jan 26, 2016 Elon Musk, CEO of Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) and Tesla Motors, Inc, talks about Tesla Motors in Hong Kong, sustainable solutions for Mainland China - and Mars! ] You can be sure that whatever Tesla makes it’s going to be powered by electricity. It’s an electric car company after all. If the roadster, the luxury sedan or the crossover haven’t proven to be enough for you, and if you don’t see much value in the upcoming affordable Model 3 sedan, perhaps you might like to purchase an electric truck from Tesla. It turns out that the idea to make one hasn’t completely been shot down by the company so it may come out with one at some point in the future. During an interview at the StartmeupHK Festival in Hong Kong Tesla CEO Elon Musk touched on the possibility of Tesla making a pickup truck. “I think it is quite likely we will do a truck in the future,” said Musk, “I think it’s sort of a logical thing for us to do in the future.” Obviously that was no confirmation that Tesla will soon be making one but it’s good to know that it’s open to the idea and whenever it feels the time is right for an all-electric truck, it will start making one. The company has a bigger challenge on its plate right now. Chevrolet is coming out with the affordable all-electric Bolt and Tesla will counter it with its affordably priced Model 3 sedan. It’s going to be the mass market option that will enable lots of people to purchase an electric car as opposed to the minority that can spend as much as $100,000 on an electric car. [© ubergizmo.com] ... http://www.autoworldnews.com/articles/16160/20160128/electric-truck-teslas-future-elon-musk.htm Electric Truck May Be In Tesla's Future, Elon Musk Says 01/28/2016 Tesla's lineup of electric cars continues to expand, so it shouldn't be a surprise if the electric automaker decides to add a different kind of vehicle to its list, such ... http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2016/01/31/tesla-applies-dealership-license-michigan/79619370/ Tesla applies for Michigan dealership license January 31, 2016 ... automaker submitted applications in November to the Michigan Secretary of State Office, and submitted follow-up information in recent weeks ... the department is reviewing the applications and a decision is expected “in the next month or two.” ... a “Class A” dealership license to sell new and used cars ... also must have a “repair facility ... or ... a licensed repair facility,” ... Tesla filed the applications as it tried for several months to win over legislators, dealers and automakers ... offered a number of test-drives ... Tesla also has opened four fast-charging stations for Teslas in the state. Its website says a Detroit service center is “coming soon.” [© detroitnews.com] ... [dated] http://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2015/05/12/federal-trade-commission-tesla-michigan-law-dealers-auto-sales/27163961/ FTC slams Michigan law aimed at Tesla direct sales ban May 12, 2015 The FTC, in an 11-page letter, says a Michigan law passed last fall aimed at blocking Tesla from setting up stores to sell cars restricts competition and reduces consumer choice ... For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/CEO-Musk-talks-of-a-future-Electric-Tesla-Truck-MI-Dealership-tp4680195.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: L order for 50 Phoenix Motorcars ZEUS Electric Shuttles
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/phoenix-motorcars-announces-order-for-50-zero-emissions-utility-shuttles-zeus-by-lr-group-of-companies-566558641.html Phoenix Motorcars Announces Order for 50 Zero Emissions Utility [Jan. 26, 2016] [image http://photos.prnewswire.com/pb-large/EN/2016/01/26/15/20160126150932ENPRN325928-Phoenix-Motorcars-90-1453820972MR.jpg?1453840786 ZEUS Shuttle ] Shuttles (ZEUS) by L Group of Companies Electric Vehicles Revolutionize Airport Shuttle Fleets ONTARIO, California, Jan. 26, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- Phoenix Motorcars LLC., a manufacturer of electric vehicles for the fleet market, continues its rapid growth by accepting an order for 50 of its Zero Emissions Utility Shuttle (ZEUS) buses from WallyPark, Joe's Airport Parking and Joe's Auto Parks, all subsidiaries of the L Group of Companies and leaders in the airport shuttle bus industry. The 14-passenger fully electric buses will be used to service airport parking at Los Angeles International, San Diego International, and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International, three of the nation's busiest hubs. Each of the buses is expected to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by more than 60 tons of carbon dioxide per year as compared with a conventional diesel shuttle, Phoenix says. All 50 buses will have fast-charging capability, which allows full charging to take place in less than than three hours. In addition, the vehicles "we provide our clients with sizable savings in fueling and maintenance costs, making us a great solution for our customers," said Phoenix president Steven Davis. "Phoenix is excited to partner with L on electrifying over 50 buses across the US, a significant commitment to cleaning the air around our airports. L is a forward thinking company that's making a difference in the Airport and parking industry." WallyPark/Joe's offer premier airport parking facilities in major metropolitan areas across the nation (including Atlanta, Chicago, Denver, Houston, Los Angeles, Newark, Orlando, Philadelphia, San Diego and Seattle). WallyPark features valet and self-parking, shuttle service, and valet express check-in/check-out services, as well as car care services that include auto washing/detailing, window tinting, and oil changes at select locations. Joe's Auto Parks, growing rapidly throughout the USA, is one of Los Angeles' largest parking operations with more than 85 downtown locations. "We are pleased to partner with Phoenix Motorcars as we look to revolutionize and electrify our Fleet of buses," said L & R's Chief Operating Officer Kevin Montgomery. Phoenix Motorcars is focused on commercial and government fleet customers. Fleets are the ideal customers for EVs, due to their vehicle usage patterns, centralized operation and high fuel consumption. In addition to the environmentally friendly aspects of EVs, they offer significant cost benefits over the total life of the vehicle. About Phoenix Cars LLC ... www.phoenixmotorcars.com www.facebook.com/Phoenix-Motorcars-252109198247008/ https://twitter.com/PMCcleanfleet About L Group of Companies ... www.tlrgc.com [© prnewswire.co.uk] ... http://ngtnews.com/phoenix-motorcars-to-provide-50-electric-buses-for-airport-shuttles/ Phoenix Motorcars to Provide 50 Electric Buses for Airport Shuttles Jan 26, 2016 ... http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/shuttle-bus/ ZEUS Electric Shuttle - specifications [dated] http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Phoenix-Motorcars-Electric-Shuttle-Bus-tp4669179.html EVLN: Phoenix Motorcars' Electric Shuttle Bus Apr 25, 2014 ... http://www.plugincars.com/phoenix-motorcars-rises-ashes-track-release-electric-pickup-end-2010-49683.html Phoenix Motorcars Rises from Ashes; On Track to Release Electric Pickup by End of 2010 Jul 13, 2010 ... http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/03/02/unveiling-the-electric-sut-with-the-begleys/ Unveiling the Electric SUT with the Begleys March 2, 2007 ... the unveiling of Phoenix Motorcar's new Sport Utility Truck ... For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-L-R-Group-order-for-50-Phoenix-Motorcars-ZEUS-Electric-Shuttles-tp4680197.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: 2016 Kia Soul EV Review after 1st three months (v)
http://insideevs.com/2016-kia-soul-ev-long-term-review-video/ 2016 Kia Soul EV Long-Term Review – Video [Jan 20, 2016] Mark Kane [image http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Primary-01.jpg Kia Soul EV video dated https://youtu.be/Mis6UluOZpQ 2016 Kia Soul EV - 3 Month Review. Bailey4427 Dec 21, 2015 My review of the Kia Soul EV after 3 months. Head over to the Canadian Soul EV FaceBook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/783719698403049/ https://youtu.be/Sd5HJjKzLFg Defrosting in under a minute Bailey4427 Nov 29, 2015 Kia Soul EV preheating - time lapse ] Here is a review of the 2016 Kia Soul EV after first three months of driving and nearly 7,800 km (over 4,800 miles). The maker of the video is pretty happy with the new car and recommends it as a solid car with great quality. One of the small drawbacks is the navigation system, but again the infotainment overall is considered great. The real world range is 150-160 km (up to 100 miles) with best range in summer weather at 180-186 km (and 4% capacity still available) so around 200 km is the limit. In the winter, range drops to 130-140 km and in highway commuting maybe 120 km (75 miles) is to be expected. The B mode for strong regenerative braking works great, so you almost don’t need to touch the brakes. And the heating is considered efficient. [© 2016 Inside EVs] ... http://ecomento.com/2016/01/29/a-kia-soul-ev-driver-shares-his-experiences-wvideo/ A Kia Soul EV driver shares his experiences (w/video) January 29, 2016 For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-2016-Kia-Soul-EV-Review-after-1st-three-months-v-tp4680198.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla is planning 2 versions of its $35, 000 Model 3, ?For $9, 500?
'Tesla's Secret Model 3...And Model Y details' 'Tesla-3 For Only $9,500?' http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-is-definitely-rolling-our-two-versions-of-its-model-3-2016-1 Tesla is planning 2 versions of its $35,000 Model 3 [20160128] Matthew DeBord [image http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/55c4cbfe2acae7a6098be037-1794-782/screen%20shot%202015-08-07%20at%2011.07.43%20am.png Tesla Model 3 clay modelScreenshot via YouTube A clay model of what's probably the Model 3 ] Tesla's next vehicle will be the Model 3, a mass-market car that's expected to be priced around $35,000. The design will be unveiled in March, but we now have greater indications that the Model 3 will actually be a platform for two vehicles — a small sedan and a compact SUV — and possibly more. At Electrek, Seth Weintraub offers some speculation about Model 3 pricing and configurations. This follows comments that Tesla's CTO, JB Straubel, made last year, when he said that the Model 3 would be the basis for a variety of different vehicles. A big question for Tesla followers is whether the Model 3 will continue the company's pattern of introducing a relatively luxurious new vehicle, as it did with the $100,000-plus Model X SUV last year, or whether the Model 3 will really be an electric car for the masses. General Motors rolled out its all-electric Bolt this month, with plans to get the car to market this year. That's well ahead of the Model 3, which won't arrive until 2017. The Bolt's interior, as we found out when we test drove it in Las Vegas, is perfectly nice but hardly luxurious. But GM will be able to sell the Bolt for $30,000, after tax rebates and government credits. The Bolt will be the only EV in the market that has range comparable with Tesla's vehicles. Tesla range, given that it requires a big and expensive battery, has always come at a steep price. It's also unclear whether Tesla will retain on the crossover version of the Model 3 the exotic Falcon Wing doors that nearly doomed an on-time Model X launch last year. Tesla had to dump a supplier and redesign the feature. The Model X's rear seats, which CEO Elon Musk likened to sculpture, also presented problems. Tesla has now brought their production in-house. Tesla hasn't confirmed it, but the Model 3 probably won't utilize the costly aluminum structure of the Model S and Model X. Expect to see the Model 3 use good old-fashioned steel. Weintraub offers some intriguing ideas about the Model 3's access to Tesla's supercharger network, which is free for all Tesla owners. There have been some issues, however, with owners using the Superchargers for everyday charging, rather than for longer trips, as Tesla reportedly intended the system. Weintraub suggests that Model 3 owners may have to pay to use Superchargers. [© businessinsider.com 2016 Business Insider] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/everything-we-know-about-tesla-s-secret-model-3-and-model-y Everything We Know About Tesla's Secret Model 3...And Model Y January 29, 2016 Tesla is gearing up for its biggest-ever unveiling: the Model 3, an affordable electric car that's supposed to take the company from 50,000 vehicle sales last year ... ... http://learnbonds.com/126489/tesla-motors-inc-confirms-the-tesla-model-y-is-a-myth-nasdaq-tsla/ The Tesla Model Y is a Myth: Confirmed January 30, 2016 ... No Model Y car from Tesla ... http://seekingalpha.com/article/3850896-tesla-offer-model-3-9500 How Could Tesla Offer The Model 3 For Only $9,500? Jan. 31, 2016 For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-is-planning-2-versions-of-its-35-000-Model-3-For-9-500-tp4680199.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem
Oh that was clear from the beginning: energize the contactor and power goes to the J1772 plug. What I meant was that the choice to energize the contactor and measure the 240V output presence is a software implementation. Remove the lines of code that energize the contactor on startup and you will not see 240V on the J1772 plug. This means that the test if the contactor works must be postponed until the first plug-in event. Probably the GFCI test requires the contactor closed as well, so that test can then also only be done after an EV plugged in, not on power-up. Hope this clarifies, Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Rush Dougherty via EV Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 12:46 PM To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Subject: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem Actually Cor, when I tested the Juicebox I had a meter in the J1772 Power pins and it showed 240vac from the first thunk to the 2nd thunk, when the contactor closed and when it opened. And the easiest way the contactor can be tested is to put power thru it and that is what the Juicebox does. Best to all Rush Dougherty Tucson AZ 85719 > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 12:56 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem > > I am sure that this test is done in software just to verify that everything works, just like there > is a special relay that will *create* a GFCI event just to test the detection of GFCI before > relying on it. > Most standards actually do not specify what happens in transition (such as power up) but if > it is important - the software is open source so you can simply comment out this test and if > you want to still get the proper test results, you do the test at the (first) plug-in event. > Problem solved. > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless > > office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water > XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info > > http://www.proxim.com > > This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary > information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please > delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of > any part of this message is prohibited. > > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:44 PM > To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem > > Well, according to the SAE-J1772 standard, the contactor shall not be energized during a > startup test nor any other condition than when plugging it to a car. Maybe that is one of the > reasons is not been approved. > > > Marco Gaxiola > CEO/Director > Tel: +52(662)301.1070 > Skype: info.energyev > www.energyev.com > > > > -Mensaje original- > De: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] En nombre de Cruisin via EV Enviado el: > domingo, 31 de enero de 2016 01:44 p.m. > Para: ev@lists.evdl.org > Asunto: Re: [EVDL] Juicebox contactor problem > > You can get support from the people who sold you the non approved charging stations. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Juicebox-co > ntac > tor-problem-tp4680179p4680186.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > >