Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery pack connector

2016-12-24 Thread Cruisin via EV
Those Volt modules you bought from a junkie are of old technology and lower
AH than the newer Brand New Volt modules you can buy on Ebay at the same
price.

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[EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

2016-12-24 Thread David Nelson via EV
Please note that I am not asking about electrical code here! I know
what the code says.

What is the actual sustained current carrying ability of the NEMA
L6-30 plug/sockets? Just like a NEMA 5-15 can handle 20A (16A
sustained) since the pins are physically the same as on a NEMA 5-20
are the L6-30 conductors large enough to handle a 50A circuit with 40A
max continuous current?

I want to use the L6-30 for the connectors for the various plug
adapters for a portable EVSE I want to build but don't want to use a
different plug because I already have the adaptors from another EVSE.

Thanks,

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Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

2016-12-24 Thread David Nelson via EV
Lawrence,

I purchased an evseupgrade.com Leaf (Panasonic) portable EVSE that was
modified to work on 240V. I can program it in 1A increments from 6A to
20A. My 2016 Soul EV+ has no problem following the EVSE current
requests. I agree with John, your EVSE is the problem not the Leaf.
You could just send your portable EVSE to evseupgrade.exe and have
them modify it.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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> Is there any way I can tell the Leaf to only draw 20 amps? The EVSE is 
> certainly not doing it.  Remember I am using an EVSE designed for the Ford 
> Th!nk. Avcon standard which is supposed to be the same a J1772.   It has 
> worked well with both the 3.3kw Leaf and the 6.6kw Leaf.  The problem is in 
> Modesto we still have the old 220vac 20 amp circuit and we have to charge 
> there.  We don't have the 3,3 kw Leaf anymore. I was skeptical that the EVSE 
> can do this and I seem to be proved right even though my new Leaf's have both 
> the 6.6 and 3.3 charge cycles on the dash. Has anyone ever tried to plug 
> their EVSE into a 20 amp circuit with a 6.6kw EV?  .   Lawrence Rhodes
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Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

2016-12-24 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
Ahh, you are using a EVSE that is built for a 40A circuit, on a 20A circuit.
It's up to the EVSE to tell the car how much current it may draw.  The EVSE 
assumes it can draw the full 32A it's rated for.
You need a different EVSE, or a different circuit.

On Sat Dec 24 21:57:55 PST 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>Is there any way I can tell the Leaf to only draw 20 amps? The EVSE is 
>certainly not doing it.  Remember I am using an EVSE designed for the Ford 
>Th!nk. Avcon standard which is supposed to be the same a J1772.   It has 
>worked well with both the 3.3kw Leaf and the 6.6kw Leaf.  The problem is in 
>Modesto we still have the old 220vac 20 amp circuit and we have to charge 
>there.  We don't have the 3,3 kw Leaf anymore. I was skeptical that the EVSE 
>can do this and I seem to be proved right even though my new Leaf's have both 
>the 6.6 and 3.3 charge cycles on the dash. Has anyone ever tried to plug their 
>EVSE into a 20 amp circuit with a 6.6kw EV?  .   Lawrence Rhodes


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Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

2016-12-24 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Is there any way I can tell the Leaf to only draw 20 amps? The EVSE is 
certainly not doing it.  Remember I am using an EVSE designed for the Ford 
Th!nk. Avcon standard which is supposed to be the same a J1772.   It has worked 
well with both the 3.3kw Leaf and the 6.6kw Leaf.  The problem is in Modesto we 
still have the old 220vac 20 amp circuit and we have to charge there.  We don't 
have the 3,3 kw Leaf anymore. I was skeptical that the EVSE can do this and I 
seem to be proved right even though my new Leaf's have both the 6.6 and 3.3 
charge cycles on the dash. Has anyone ever tried to plug their EVSE into a 20 
amp circuit with a 6.6kw EV?  .   Lawrence Rhodes 
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf BMS

2016-12-24 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
John,
Inside my head, like lots of other ideas ;)
Since there are others interested in using the LEAF BMS for lower voltage, i 
consider laying out a poststamp circuit to add to the BMS PCB to add an 
opto-coupler and allow aliasing all BMS inputs to less cells. 
Cor

> On Dec 24, 2016, at 5:00 PM, John Lussmyer  wrote:
> 
> On Mon Dec 19 18:36:18 PST 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>> 1. Add another opto-coupler (there already is one for the mid-pack
>> disconnect) and "alias" the top 16 cells to already connected cells.
>> Yes, it will be connected double, but the whole concept of balancing
>> prevents those cells from being drawn down more than others.
> 
> Is there any place where this is discussed/shown ?
> 
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf BMS

2016-12-24 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Mon Dec 19 18:36:18 PST 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>1. Add another opto-coupler (there already is one for the mid-pack
>disconnect) and "alias" the top 16 cells to already connected cells.
>Yes, it will be connected double, but the whole concept of balancing
>prevents those cells from being drawn down more than others.

Is there any place where this is discussed/shown ?


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Re: [EVDL] Schneeveis battery load (was: Testing Leaf Modules)

2016-12-24 Thread John Lindsay via EV
You might like to run heavy gauge wire to the bucket and the thinner resistance 
wire entirely in the water. The insulated wire may melt outside the water. 

John Lindsay

> On 24 Dec 2016, at 5:20 pm, Lee Hart via EV  wrote:
> 
> With this type of load, remember that the rod or pipe is electrically live. 
> And so is the water that touches it!
> 
> I like using a coil of insulated copper wire, dunked in a bucket of water. 
> The wire can be considerably undersized for the current listed in a wire 
> table -- we *want* it to have excessive voltage drop and run hot. 
> the water keeps the insulation from melting.
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery pack connector

2016-12-24 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
Great!  Availability is up, and pricing is down in the past few years - which 
is wonderful news!
As I said, I converted my truck almost 3 years ago, when other packs were 
harder to find, and more expensive.

On Sat Dec 24 08:18:24 PST 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>John, all I know is what is on places like Car-Part.com. Volt packs (16kWh)
>seem to go for around $1500 - $1800 there, and are much more plentiful than
>Leaf packs.  A few have offered Tesla modules for sale on endless sphere and
>diyelectriccar for around $1200 per module.  A module being about 240Ah and
>nominal 22.2 V (6 x 3.7V), so about 5.3 kWh.


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Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery pack connector

2016-12-24 Thread tomw via EV
John, all I know is what is on places like Car-Part.com. Volt packs (16kWh)
seem to go for around $1500 - $1800 there, and are much more plentiful than
Leaf packs.  A few have offered Tesla modules for sale on endless sphere and
diyelectriccar for around $1200 per module.  A module being about 240Ah and
nominal 22.2 V (6 x 3.7V), so about 5.3 kWh.

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Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

2016-12-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Sequence of Events contactors

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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161224

2016-12-24 Thread brucedp5 via EV


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EVLN: Nissan remembers when VW doomed EVs> 'No one wants nor needs them'
Nissan Exec Recalls A Time When Electric Cars Were “Doomed To Fail”
During a recent ride & drive event of the new Ranult ZOE in Barcelona,
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long involvement with …

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EVLN: e-Golf .nl-to-.au world trip (on an e-tuk budget)> (Alms for the poor
EV driver)
Dutchman's e-car exploits bring him to the UAE
Abu Dhabi: Imagine crisscrossing the world in an electric car without any
money, your route being determined by anyone willing to provide you with
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EVLN: Musk was right> Bolt EV demand will be higher than GM's planned
production
Far more Chevy Bolt EVs likely to be sold than compliance requires
For the past few years, several of the electric-car models on sale in the
U.S. have been "compliance cars." That means they are built primarily to
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UK's Christmas lights could power an EV 50-times around the world
The amount of electricity spent on lighting Christmas trees in the UK this
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