[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170531
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-10-things-I-like-better-on-the-Bolt-EV-than-my-Tesla-S-td4686944.html
EVLN: 10 things I like better on the Bolt EV than my Tesla-S
Like I really, really love this car even months after our review. ... the
winter, unless of course you want AWD, which in electric car world, is still
a Tesla exclusive ...
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Before-i3-EV-s-production-BMW-had-many-vociferous-nugatory-R-amp-D-dalliances-td4686943.html
EVLN: Before i3 EV's production, BMW had many vociferous nugatory R&D
dalliances
BMW plugged into electric cars before Tesla's Elon Musk was born
So you think that the traditional car manufacturers are scrambling to get on
board this electric car thing that Tesla started a few years back? ...
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Indian-richie-rich-saddened-by-Tesla-Model-3-s-delayed-India-entry-td4686942.html
EVLN: Indian richie-rich saddened by Tesla Model 3's delayed India entry
“It's about worshipping the vehicle of the future and the man behind it,”
said ... due to the absence of an ecosystem for the supply of electric
vehicle components ...
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/If-one-more-buys-a-Tesla-amp-the-lift-will-stop-working-gt-mass-EV-uptake-td4686941.html
If one more buys a Tesla& the lift will stop working> mass EV uptake
Wattblock, which was founded through the Telstra Muru-D acceleration
program, specialises in energy and solar reports for residential strata
buildings ...
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Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20" wheel
A bike E which I think is a brand had recalls. It also has the front crank in a box frame. Not the easiest to use common mid drive. Hub motor might be best. Bionx maybe but they are expensive. I think Lee's idea might be best but it will be unusual. On standard bikes a mid drive is an easy addition with coasting ability while the motor runs the bikebut it seems efficiency is not a concern with most of these hub motors or mid drives. I'm still searching.It would be nice to have a bolt in solution and the hub motor seems to be it. However it's nice to have a motor setup which doesn't penalize you when the battery power or the motor quits. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170531/15643e99/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20" wheel
Too bad this seems to com in only a 26 inch wheel format: https://www.geoo.com/ "The Patent Pending GeoOrbital wheel is an evolution of the orbital wheel (the wheels on the TRON Motorcycles). The GeoOrbital wheel replaces a standard bicycle front wheel to turn your bike into a powerful electric bike in under 60 seconds. The only part that is attached separately from the wheel is a simple thumb activated throttle, which is easily clipped onto your handlebar. The Panasonic 36V removable Lithium-Ion battery (with a built in USB outlet for charging your electronics) provides a pedal assisted range of up to 50 miles per-battery (up to a 30 mile range for the 26 inch wheel). With little to no pedaling you will go up to 20 miles on a single battery (up to 12 miles for the 26 inch wheel). The more you choose to pedal the more range you can expect, and you can always take a spare battery with you for longer rides. The GeoOrbital wheel comes with a flat-proof solid foam tire, so you never have to worry about getting a flat or even checking tire pressure. By using the latest hi-density foam technology the tires act and weigh the same as a traditional bike tire, but you will never get a flat. Never!" -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Most-efficient-drive-system-for-a-bicycle-tricycle-tp4686908p4686947.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20" wheel
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: A bike E which I think is a brand had recalls. I bought mine used; so never had any recalls. It has worked flawlessly for me. My only changes were to add a rearview mirror, and upgrade the skinny racing tires to something with more traction and a better ride. I think Lee's idea might be best but it will be unusual. On standard bikes a mid drive is an easy addition with coasting ability while the motor runs the bike... For me, it's still a bike, not a motorcycle. I pedal all the time, and only use the motor occasionally to climb hills (I live at the top of a hill). My wife has a Giant "LaFree" Ebike. I really like its setup. It has a mid-drive setup, with the motor mounted between the crank and rear wheel, driving the one-and-only chain with a little sprocket and freewheel. The rear wheel has a 5-speed hub. When the motor is off, the freewheel on its shaft just spins. A tensioner pulley detects when the chain is tight (i.e. you're pedaling). You have an off/low/high switch on the handlebar. The motor adds force (low or high) proportional to how much force you are applying to the pedals, so it turns on/off automatically. My other E-bike is a conventional 26" bike with a hub motor in the front wheel. It can run like a motorcycle (no pedaling) if you like. It is much more powerful; but much heavier and also kills the battery much faster. It tends to spin the front tire in low-traction conditions, which can cause dangerous spills! I don't like this setup much. I really like Roger Stockton / Rob Cameron's setup! I just have to find a good gearmotor, and figure out a way to make that adapter to put a freewheel cassette on its shaft. The gearmotor is going to need really good bearing to withstand the force from pedaling. > but it seems efficiency is not a concern with most of these hub > motors or mid drives. That's probably true for casual use. The difference in efficiency from 90% to 95% is probably not noticeable except by the discerning cyclist; but adds significantly to the cost. -- Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction. -- Albert Einstein -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20" wheel
Astro motors in Irvine, CA is making some very powerful and small motors. A kw per pound. Bldc type 95% efficient. Holds 85 mph record for a one hundred pound vehicle three wheel vehicle. Lawrence Rhodes Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android device ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20" wheel
/www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Mobile and > Google Phone > > michael.e.r...@gmail.com > > > > -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Mobile and Google Phone michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170531/6300b1a0/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Low-mileage Leaf EV glut
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Willie via EV wrote: > If a well spaced Supercharge route can be > identified, it seems TWO Leafs might be moved by one Tesla. > If you attach a tow bar to the front of your Tesla and a hitch on one of the Leaf's then you could charge both at the same time. "No, officer. I'm not pulling a Tesla and a Leaf with a Leaf. That Leaf is pulling just my Tesla. My Tesla is pulling that Leaf so only one car is being pulled by one car, so what is the problem again?" -- David D. Nelson http://evalbum.com/1328 http://www.levforum.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20" wheel
BikeE had two recalls I know of. There was a strut on the seat that would break. Any competent welder could sand off the aluminum finish and tack it back together. The recall fix simply pinched the end of the strut before welding providing a better connection. The other recall and the death knell for BikeE was failure of the forks of the tandem. There were absolutely no such problems on the solo models. I have two in good condition a CT and an AT (rear suspension). The steering and geometry are a little odd, kind of squirrelly and uncertain at low speeds, but safe. They don't resist turning much and don't respond quickly to large handle bar motions. I found when I was fatigued (after 80 or 100 miles) I had a hard time climbing and would row the handlebars back an forth. A real pain at night with a bar mounted light. At high downhill speeds (I have hit 45MPH) they are rock solid. Lots of recumbents have odd steering response. There are no rule of thumb design limits for them as with upright bike design. So the get built with less certainty about how they will feel and perform. Same with recumbent trikes. The original Terra Trike WizWheels were a nightmare. Anyway, I made adaptations to BikeEs and enjoy riding them. I don't think you will find shoehorning a hub motor into a 20 inch wheel to be easy. You may not be able to buy spokes from stock that are short enough. I wanted to put a Schmidt generator hub into the front 16" wheel and gave that idea up for this reason. You can probably get custom spokes made from longer one but running a die onto them. However the best spokes are rolled not cut. Cut threads are not as strong. You might try a combination spoke pattern of radial on the non drive side and 1 cross on the drive side to make the lacing easier. I have one like this and it is fine, but with a standard hub, not electric. You can mess around more with the lacing because the small wheels are so much stronger than large diameters. Mike On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:27 PM, nicklogan via EV wrote: > Too bad this seems to com in only a 26 inch wheel format: > > https://www.geoo.com/ > > "The Patent Pending GeoOrbital wheel is an evolution of the orbital wheel > (the wheels on the TRON Motorcycles). The GeoOrbital wheel replaces a > standard bicycle front wheel to turn your bike into a powerful electric > bike > in under 60 seconds. > > The only part that is attached separately from the wheel is a simple thumb > activated throttle, which is easily clipped onto your handlebar. > > The Panasonic 36V removable Lithium-Ion battery (with a built in USB outlet > for charging your electronics) provides a pedal assisted range of up to 50 > miles per-battery (up to a 30 mile range for the 26 inch wheel). With > little > to no pedaling you will go up to 20 miles on a single battery (up to 12 > miles for the 26 inch wheel). The more you choose to pedal the more range > you can expect, and you can always take a spare battery with you for longer > rides. > > The GeoOrbital wheel comes with a flat-proof solid foam tire, so you never > have to worry about getting a flat or even checking tire pressure. > > By using the latest hi-density foam technology the tires act and weigh the > same as a traditional bike tire, but you will never get a flat. Never!" > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle- > discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Most-efficient- > drive-system-for-a-bicycle-tricycle-tp4686908p4686947.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/NEDRA) > > -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Mobile and Google Phone michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170531/fc5d935c/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20' wheel
golden motors does have a 16" n 20" inch solid hub motor. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20' wheel
> I don't see a mid drive as problematic for a BikeE CT (hardtail). Most mid drive at very expensive and you have to listen to NOISE of extra gears. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Most efficient hub motor for 20' wheel
I have a jonway maxiscooter is it more aerodiamic with the wind shield on? could I make a tarp from the windshield to trunk with fiberglass rods to improve things? ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
