[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20180526
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Mach1-Mustang-s-bloated-performance-e-SUV-sibling-tp4690199.html
EVLN: Mach1> Mustang’s bloated-performance e-SUV sibling
The Ford Mustang-Inspired Mach 1 Electric SUV Will Be Based On The Focus:
Report
2018-05-22 Ford Mach 1 Battery Electric Performance Car Is Coming In 2020
When Ford first announced a new electric performance SUV at the Detroit Auto
... F-150 Hybrid and a battery electric performance car to be called the
“Mach …
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/ford-2630.jpg
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-released-internal-Tesla-X-rollover-test-footage-v-tp4690200.html
EVLN: (released) internal Tesla-X rollover-test footage (v)
Watch Tesla unsuccessfully try to rollover the Model X all-electric SUV
May. 20th 2018 Electric vehicles are proving to offer some great safety
advantages and Tesla is not the only one leading the way on that front ...
https://youtu.be/fnxPjeaCAck
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https://cleantechnica.com/2018/05/22/pge-customer-can-now-save-3000-on-a-new-nissan-leaf/
PG Customers Can Now Save $3,000 On A New Nissan LEAF
May 22nd, 2018 PG estimates that charging an EV at night on one of its
residential EV electricity rate plans is the equivalent of paying $1.20 per
gallon — or less than 1/3 of ...
https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/files/2017/12/426212882_Production_begins_of_the_new_Nissan_LEAF_in_Europe-e1514907407738.jpg
https://www.businessinsider.in/this-electric-bike-is-disguised-as-a-car/articleshow/64246445.cms
This electric bike is disguised as a car
May 20, 2018 This bike looks like a car. The PodRide is a four-wheeled,
electric-assist bike. It's covered by a fabric shell. The shell protects the
cyclist from various weather ...
http://mypodride.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/mikaelpodride-website-header-1.png
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVcrash-Xue-blames-Tesla-3-Autopilot-keep-hands-on-the-wheel-tp4690195.html
EVcrash: Xue blames Tesla-3 Autopilot> (keep hands on the wheel)
Tesla Model 3 unofficial road trip ends in crash, driver blames Autopilot
May. 25th 2018 You You Xue, an early Tesla Model 3 owner, created the
project to tour North America and Europe and show the new electric vehicle
to the many reservation ...
https://electrek.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/screen-shot-2018-05-25-at-5-56-35-pm-e1527285442820.jpg?quality=82=1500#038;strip=all=1600
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[EVDL] EVLN: (released) internal Tesla-X rollover-test footage (v)
https://electrek.co/2018/05/20/tesla-model-x-all-electric-suv-rollover-test/
Watch Tesla unsuccessfully try to rollover the Model X all-electric SUV
May. 20th 2018 Fred Lambert
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https://youtu.be/fnxPjeaCAck
Tesla Model X rollover test
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Tesla has long been boasting about the safety of the Model X and especially
its low probability of rollover – with good reasons.
Now the company has released some footage of internal tests trying
unsuccessfully to make the Model X all-electric SUV rollover.
Last summer, Tesla Model X officially became the highest safety rated SUV
(by a significant margin) with 5-star rating in every safety category by
NHTSA.
At the time, we shared the crash test videos of NHTSA’s tests.
One of the most impressive achievements for a SUV is the rollover
probability, which is the lowest of any SUV – thanks in part to the Model X
having a large battery pack at the bottom of the chassis, which results in a
low center of gravity.
NTHSA gave the Model X a rolling resistance of 9.30% and couldn’t tip it in
its dynamic test.
Tesla also claimed that they couldn’t “flip” the Model X during internal
crash testing, but we have never seen the footage until now:
Unfortunately, Tesla didn’t disclose the speed of the three crash tests.
The automaker released the footage in a tweet in which they highlighted the
Model X’s safety rating from NHTSA:
“Model X is the first and only SUV to achieve a NHTSA 5-Star safety
rating in every category and subcategory, with the lowest probability of
rollover and overall injury of any SUV.”
Before the Model X, Tesla achieved similarly impressive results with the
Model S, its flagship sedan.
Now it aims to do the same with its latest vehicle, the Model 3, and we are
starting to see the first results from safety tests.
Electric vehicles are proving to offer some great safety advantages and
Tesla is not the only one leading the way on that front ...
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https://www.businessinsider.in/this-electric-bike-is-disguised-as-a-car/articleshow/64246445.cms
This electric bike is disguised as a car
May 20, 2018 This bike looks like a car. The PodRide is a four-wheeled,
electric-assist bike. It's covered by a fabric shell. The shell protects the
cyclist from various weather ...
http://mypodride.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/mikaelpodride-website-header-1.png
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-PodRide-an-enclosed-4wheel-Electric-bicycle-car-tp4681498.html
EVLN: PodRide – an enclosed 4wheel ... practical everyday electric
“bicycle-car” ...
Apr 13, 2016
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/All-Weather-covered-4whl-PodRide-E-Bike-r-37mi-ts-15-5mph-tp4686297.html
All-Weather covered 4whl PodRide E-Bike r:37mi ts:15.5mph
The All-Weather PodRide E-Bike, Perfect For Winter
Apr 03, 2017
http://nordic.businessinsider.com/swedens-new-$40-million-electric-bike-subsidy-is-so-popular-that-it-could-run-out-soon--/
Sweden’s new 25% subsidy on e-bikes is so popular that it could soon run dry
If the current Social Democrat government remains in power, the electric
vehicle subsidy is planned to continue until 2020 - to the tune of more than
1 billlion krona (€100 m). Even without the subsidy, Swedes have grown …
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[EVDL] EVLN: Mach1> Mustang’s bloated-performance e-SUV sibling
https://jalopnik.com/the-ford-mustang-inspired-mach-1-electric-suv-will-be-b-1826231525 The Ford Mustang-Inspired Mach 1 Electric SUV Will Be Based On The Focus: Report 2018-05-22 Alanis King When Ford first announced a new electric performance SUV at the Detroit Auto Show in January, a teaser video showed the Ford Explorer and Ford Mustang as its inspirations. Ford even nicknamed it the “Mach 1” as an ode to the Mustang. But Autocar reports that the new SUV will be built on the new global Focus platform. A Ford Mach 1 Battery Electric Performance Car Is Coming In 2020 Here’s a mandatory pause to remind you all that everything is bad; Ford plans to get rid of all of its cars and sedans other than the Mustang and the Focus Active, the world is full of crossovers, and our future holds electric performance SUVs that look like the Mustang’s bloated younger sibling. Oh, right, back to the news. Ford’s new electric performance SUV should come around for 2020, and Ford representative Mike Levine told Jalopnik in January that the “Mach 1” nickname for the vehicle is just a test to see how customers respond to it. (Don’t pull a Mitsubishi here, Ford.) There have been no photos or teaser images of a vehicle yet to make a judgement on size, but then-Ford executive Raj Nair said at its debut that the Mach 1 would be built on a unique platform. That is, a unique platform instead of the Mustang platform, because it’s battery electric. But the platform may not be all that unique, since Autocar reports that the Mach 1 will be built on the same modular “Holy Grail” platform as the new Focus. From the story: The all-electric crossover, dubbed Mach 1 in reference to its Mustang-derived styling features, has been confirmed as a globally engineered model to be revealed next year, with UK deliveries starting in 2020. The crossover, codenamed CX430, will be built on the C2 platform used for the new Focus and has been in Ford’s product plan for several years. The CX430 will be additional to the Kuga and, since it is based on the front-wheel-drive C2 platform, it is expected to be conventional hatchback-like, with a slightly raised driving position. Ford has identified ‘white paper’ models like the CX430 to replace saloons and hatches in its US line-up. Further crossovers with Mustang design cues and front-drive chassis are a strong possibility because they combine “the best attributes of cars and utilities, such as high ride height, space and versatility”. The story doesn’t say how Autocar got this information, and should be taken with some caution. Jalopnik has reached out to Ford for comment about the report and the platform the new Mach 1 may be on, and also if it feels sorry for having deceived us like this, and will update if we hear back. Crossovers and SUVs with performance badges may be our imminent future, but, hey, at least a Mustang-styled SUV seems less likely to hit up the local Cars and Coffee regularly. Update 3:17 p.m. A Ford representative responded to Jalopnik, saying there’s “some confusion” with the Autocar report. But because it’s too early to talk about the future lineup, the representative said, there was no comment from Ford on the report other than directing Jalopnik to the statement the company made on the vehicle in March: Ford’s five flexible vehicle architectures – body-on-frame, front-wheel-drive unibody, rear-wheel-drive unibody, commercial van unibody and BEV – are paired with module “families” that address the power pack, electrical pack and vehicle configurations. Seventy percent of each vehicle’s engineering will be driven from this new architecture approach, with 30 percent of content – including grilles, hoods, doors and more – customized for each vehicle [© jalopnik.com] https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ford-mach-1-ev-crossover-spearhead-new-era-car-maker Ford Mach 1 EV crossover to spearhead new era for car maker 22 May 2018 Ford is pressing ahead with its first all-new battery electric vehicle, a front-drive crossover – and it is committed to the Mondeo in Europe until the mid-2020s, ... Ford readies all-new Mach 1 EV crossover, axes US cars ... https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/ford-2630.jpg https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ford-mach-1-ev-crossover-spearhead-new-era-car-maker Mach 1 EV crossover spearheads new era for Ford 22 May 2018 The UK's Autocar publication is reporting that Ford is set to go ahead with its first all-new battery electric vehicle, currently dubbed the Mach 1, which will see the ... https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/ford-2624.jpg?itok=28s3Zze8 https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1116842_report-ford-mach-1-electric-suv-will-share-platform-with-next-escape Report: Ford Mach 1 electric SUV will share platform with next Escape May 22, 2018 The vehicle is part of
Re: [EVDL] BMS on Volt modules, Lots of 12v lithium batteries available.
Hi Dan and All, A solar boat is likely in my future too. The voltage are normal for that type of cell, 49.5vdc top and 36 though under 39vdc, there is little energy left as it drops off a cliff. So I'm using 39vdc as my lower cutoff though manual, it can be done by the HB404 too as has 2 programable if harder than hell relay drivers. I just use power supplies set to 49.5vdc for charging now and using a MPJA 100vdc, 100amp wthr meter to just keep track. Steve has a good point but something anyone should be thinking about when designing a system what might happen. Running it off 48vdc means both can go down together too. But each system is different. I'm not running any BMS as most don't as too much an expensive PITA. And the quality of the cells seem to not be needed at first. After it ages could be another matter. There are some interesting low cost bike BMS chips that could work at 48vdc. A 4kwh module is 2 48vdc sections, 5 kwh has 2 48vdc and a 12vdc sections, a 7 kwh has a 12vdc and 3 48vdc sections though that has changed in recent packs. But few of them are out there yet, most being 2012-2014 model yrs. And heavy at 25lbs./kwh. But cheap, powerful. On a boat I'd keep it at 48vdc for shock hazard unless no other choice . If I were you charging from the grid I'd just buy a settable powersupply for hands off and use your lead chargers as bulk charging with a timer doing most of it, and the PS finishing it off is how I'm , most are doing it. I'm looking for surplus/cheap 1-4kw 48vdc power supplies myself and exactly where one can find used 48vdc 2kw and up UPS systems? . Jerry Dycus From: Dan Baker via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Dan Baker <vmd...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lots of 12v lithium batteries available. This a great relevant thread for me. I'm interested in going from Lead to Lithium on my boat and I believe Volt cells are likely the most available and least expensive to me. The Volt cells appear to have different charge points than most Lithium so the HB404 looks like a great solution. Jerry, do you just use one HB404/ contactor for a string of cells that add up to 120v when charged? No other BMS? I'm looking at doing 96v setup, doubling my current 48v setup. I was thinking 2 x 48v packs, 2 HB404s and contactors and using 2 x 48v chargers that I already own. Appreciate any advice on this, excited to switch to Lithium but nervous of destroying a set in the learning stage lol. Cheers Dan On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:36 PM Len Moskowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Thanks Jerry, but I'd like to keep the lead-acid form factor and use the > existing charger. > > Len M. > > - > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:30 PM, jerry freedomev wrote: > > > > Hi Len and All, > 2 5kwh, 120vdc nom Volt modules would by far be the best, > lowest cost solution. And for charging just add an HB404 wthr meter and > a contactor to cut the voltage off at fully charged using your present > charger likely. > Each take about the same space as 2.5 of your 12vdc lead > batteries. And cost $1500-$2300 buying modules, not much more than > lead, less than premium lead. > Since 2 modules will put out 2k amps and weigh much less, > lead EVs I've sold them for nicely increase both range and pickup even > with the same rated kwh. And one can add another module or 2 for more > range. > My rebuild of my EV trike pickup into the subcar it was > suppose to be I'll put 2 5kwh modules in it for about 120 mile range. > Could put in 250 miles worth. > Jerry Dycus > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180524/aa8062a4/attachment.html > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180526/d2ab40a6/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:
Re: [EVDL] Lots of 12v lithium batteries available.
On 05/26/2018 07:46 AM, Dan Baker via EV wrote: This a great relevant thread for me. I'm interested in going from Lead to Lithium on my boat and I believe Volt cells are likely the most available and least expensive to me. The Volt cells appear to have different charge points than most Lithium so the HB404 looks like a great solution. Jerry, do you just use one HB404/ contactor for a string of cells that add up to 120v when charged? No other BMS? I'm looking at doing 96v setup, doubling my current 48v setup. I was thinking 2 x 48v packs, 2 HB404s and contactors and using 2 x 48v chargers that I already own. Appreciate any advice on this, excited to switch to Lithium but nervous of destroying a set in the learning stage lol. This: http://www.ebikes.ca/product-info/cycle-satiator.html looks like a pretty good solution. A bit pricey for the current supplied. I've been looking at reducing the charge voltage on my 36v hoverboard batteries as well as charging my ~48v Volt modules and that thing should do both. Haven't yet bought one. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lots of 12v lithium batteries available.
This a great relevant thread for me. I'm interested in going from Lead to Lithium on my boat and I believe Volt cells are likely the most available and least expensive to me. The Volt cells appear to have different charge points than most Lithium so the HB404 looks like a great solution. Jerry, do you just use one HB404/ contactor for a string of cells that add up to 120v when charged? No other BMS? I'm looking at doing 96v setup, doubling my current 48v setup. I was thinking 2 x 48v packs, 2 HB404s and contactors and using 2 x 48v chargers that I already own. Appreciate any advice on this, excited to switch to Lithium but nervous of destroying a set in the learning stage lol. Cheers Dan On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:36 PM Len Moskowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Thanks Jerry, but I'd like to keep the lead-acid form factor and use the > existing charger. > > Len M. > > - > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:30 PM, jerry freedomev wrote: > > > >Hi Len and All, >2 5kwh, 120vdc nom Volt modules would by far be the best, > lowest cost solution. And for charging just add an HB404 wthr meter and > a contactor to cut the voltage off at fully charged using your present > charger likely. >Each take about the same space as 2.5 of your 12vdc lead > batteries. And cost $1500-$2300 buying modules, not much more than > lead, less than premium lead. >Since 2 modules will put out 2k amps and weigh much less, > lead EVs I've sold them for nicely increase both range and pickup even > with the same rated kwh. And one can add another module or 2 for more > range. > My rebuild of my EV trike pickup into the subcar it was > suppose to be I'll put 2 5kwh modules in it for about 120 mile range. > Could put in 250 miles worth. > Jerry Dycus > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180524/aa8062a4/attachment.html > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180526/d2ab40a6/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
