date:20180717

[EVDL] EVcrash: Leaf.nz driver had a medical event& hit pole (v)

2018-07-17 Thread brucedp5 via EV

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/public-rally-help-scene-fatal-crash
Public rally to help at scene of fatal crash
17 July 2018 John Gibb and George Block

[image
https://www.odt.co.nz/sites/default/files/story/2018/07/stuart_st_accident_1.jpg
St John Ambulance officers, firefighters and police join forces to help at
the scene of a fatal car crash in Stuart St, Dunedin, yesterday. Photo:
Gregor Richardson

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A senior fire officer has praised members of the public who rallied to help
at the scene of a fatal Dunedin crash yesterday, before emergency services
arrived.

Fire and Emergency New Zealand Senior Station Officer Mark Leonard said
several members of the public had provided "some really good assistance
before emergency services arrived'', including by providing initial first
aid for the person in the vehicle.

Other members of the public had also worked to try to stabilise the crashed
vehicle to stop it from tipping over, Mr Leonard said.

A motorist died after a late model Nissan Leaf electric car hit a pole near
the top of Stuart St, Dunedin, yesterday evening.

Alerted at 5.20pm, firefighters from the Rosyln and Willowbank fire stations
attended and began urgent first aid treatment of the injured driver.

The crash happened on the inside lane of the uphill section of the street,
about 100m below the Roslyn overbridge.

A smashed Kaikorai Valley traffic sign was lying on the footpath beside the
lighting pole which had apparently been struck by the car.

Police last night confirmed the motorist's death and said the police serious
crash unit was investigating the cause of the crash.

After most other officers had left, an officer with a light on his helmet,
and a supported by a police wagon, continued a more detailed study of the
cordoned-off scene.

Mr Leonard said the Willowbank fire rescue tender had earlier been placed
close to the car, to stabilise the vehicle "so it didn't roll'' and prevent
it from moving, while rescuers helped the injured person inside, Mr Leonard
said.

It is understood the motorist was a man.

"Further information regarding the deceased will not be released until next
of kin notifications have taken place,'' a police spokesman said.

[image] St John Ambulance officers, firefighters and police join forces to
help at the scene of a fatal car crash in Stuart St, Dunedin, yesterday.
PHOTO: GREGOR RICHARDSON

Mr Leonard said firefighters were able to remove the injured person without
having to use jaws of life cutting gear, and a firefighter had also
accompanied the injured person to Dunedin Hospital via ambulance to further
help with care.

It had initially been difficult to approach the accident scene because of
"quite heavy'' traffic in the area, but the Willowbank rescue tender was
able to arrive by driving on the wrong side of Stuart St, he said.

Police, St John Ambulance and firefighters had co-operated well in a bid to
save the motorist, he said.

One nearby resident went out to investigate after hearing "a loud bang''.

Another resident in the area also "heard a bang and some screeching (of
metal or tyres)''.

"I didn't think it was anything, but then I heard the sirens after that,''
he said.

In the immediate aftermath of the crash, the two uphill lanes of Stuart St
were cordoned off by police, between the Moana Pool area and the top of the
street.

At least three police cars with flashing lights blocked off key entry
points, and three more police vehicles were at the immediate crash scene.
[© odt.co.nz]

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/medical-event-suspected-stuart-st-crash
Medical event suspected in Stuart St crash
18 July 2018 -4 hours ago A man who died in a car crash in Dunedin is
believed to have had a medical event. He crashed his late-model Nissan Leaf
on Stuart St, between Moana Pool and the Highgate Bridge, about 5.20pm on
Monday, and died later that evening... The man was the only person in the
electric vehicle which crashed into a pole ...
https://www.odt.co.nz/sites/default/files/styles/odt_story_opengraph_1200w/public/story/2018/07/stuart_st_accident_1_0.jpg?itok=KYHxC02u

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/emergency/public-praised-for-helping-at-scene-of-fatal-crash/
Public praised for helping at scene of fatal crash
Jul 16, 2018 Public praised for helping at scene of fatal crash ... A
motorist died after a late model Nissan Leaf electric car hit a pole near
the top of Stuart St, Dunedin, ...

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2018-07-17 Thread brucedp5 via EV

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-BlackFly-Cheap-Flying-ultralight-e-VTOL-v-tp4690580.html
EVLN: BlackFly> Cheap Flying ultralight e-VTOL (v)
BlackFly Wants To Be The Flying Car You Can Finally Buy Next Year, And For
Cheap
12 July 2018 ... startup ... promising to deliver the future filled with
flying cars ... it has no wheels ... personal flying vehicles that aim to
compete with cars ...
https://youtu.be/FI8AemQcclY

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Pininfarina-PF0-hyperEV4-ultra-wealthy-customer-tp4690581.html
EVLN: Pininfarina PF0 hyperEV4 ultra-wealthy customer$
Pininfarina launches own hypercar brand with an electric Bugatti fighter
Jul 12, 2018 The company’s first new car, dubbed the PF0, will be an
electric hypercar designed to compete with the Bugatti Chiron that th...
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Public L3 EVSE @Mullan-MT
https://missoulacurrent.com/business/2018/07/missoula-walmart-electric/
Missoula Walmart installing electric vehicle charging station at Mullan
store
July 3, 2018 9 hours ago ... super-fast chargers that can charge a car in
between 10 to 30 minutes ... Providing this service is the right thing to do
for our customers, our business and the environment ... Spread the love ...
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(BMW e-taxis)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/marilyn-monroe-and-joe-dimaggios-former-new-york-hotel-suite-is-taking-reservations/ar-AAzTVpf
Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio's Former New York Hotel Suite Is Taking
Reservations
10 July 2018 · 1h All of the taxis will be electric, emission-free BMW
cars. “With Singalong Shuttle, we want to show people in a joyful way ...

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Wrong-way Insurance-Scammer.my Stoopids an e-scooter fakey (v)
Man On Electric Scooter Fakes Accident Around SS2 Mall To Claim Insurance
July 16, 2018 · 1h ... the man was riding an electric scooter on the
opposite side of the road ... I managed to stop in time, he came and
‘touched’ my car, stood up then lied on the road.” ... immediately stood
back up and sat on his electric scooter, claiming that he’s a handicap ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoes7rsZBA

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[EVDL] EVLN: Pininfarina PF0 hyperEV4 ultra-wealthy customer$

2018-07-17 Thread brucedp5 via EV

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1117695_pininfarina-launches-own-hypercar-brand-with-an-electric-bugatti-fighter
Pininfarina reveals more of electric Bugatti fighter, future plans
Jul 12, 2018 Eric C. Evarts

[image
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Pininifarina PF0 design sketch
]

If you’re a storied brand waiting to break free, your best strategy is to
make a big splash.

Such is the situation of Pininfarina, which plans to launch a range of four
new cars under its own name between 2020 and 2025, company executives told
Motor Authority in a private meeting in New York on Thursday.

As a small, Italian custom styling and coachbuilding house that sometimes
could include its own badge on Ferraris, Lancias, and Alfa Romeos, that’s a
big leap for Pininfarina. “Pinin,” in Italian, means “small,” and there’s
nothing small about what Pininfarina is trying to accomplish.

With money from Indian automaker Mahindra, which purchased Pininfarina in
2015, the company plans to launch a new automotive brand with its own line
of products, Pininfarina Automobili, alongside its historic styling and
coachbuilding operation.

Pininfarina is known for designing beautiful cars, but the executives
expressed frustration that the company’s designs historically have fallen to
the mercy of traditional automakers who decide whether or not to build them.
That’s the motivation behind launching Pininfarina Automobili to produce its
own line of cars. The only car ever sold under the Pininfarina name before
was the 1980-1982 Pininfarina Spider 2000, a continuation edition of the
long-running Fiat 124 Spider, a Pininfarina design from the 1960s that Fiat
discontinued.

The company’s first new car, code-named the PF0, will be an electric
hypercar designed to compete with the Bugatti Chiron that the company will
first publicly display at the 2019 Geneva auto show. A small group of
investors, journalists, and ultra-wealthy potential customers will get an
early look at a model next month during Monterey Car Week.

The carbon fiber PF0 will blast from 0-62 mph in less than two seconds and
0-186 mph in less than five seconds, according to the company. One version
will have a top speed of almost 250 mph. The car will use four independent,
axle-mounted motors to deliver active torque vectoring.

It will have a range of more than 300 miles “when you’re not driving it on
the Nurburgring,” CEO Michael Perschke said. That would give it a battery
capacity of roughly 100 kilowatt-hours. Unlike most modern electric cars,
the battery will not lie flat under the floor, but will be confined to the
center tunnel. Designers couldn’t replicate a hypercar's feeling of a low
center of gravity with seats mounted above a flat battery pack.

Perschke says the company will stick to building electric cars “because it
no longer works to launch an aspirational brand with a gas engine. You have
to start in the 21st century,” he said. He agreed with other automotive CEOs
that the industry will change more in the next 15 years than it did in the
last 50.

The company only expects to sell 35 to 40 PF0s in the U.S. and 125 to 150
globally. Deliveries are due to begin in late 2020.

Perschke spent years as head of global sales and strategy at Audi and had
previous experience at Mercedes-Benz and Mitsubishi.

“We think the company needs to be bold enough, and the name is bold enough
for a top-down strategy,” he said. The company will start with the most
expensive model. As a competitor to the Bugatti Chiron, that would put the
price somewhere between $2 million and $3 million.

The second, unnamed model will be a “lifestyle” vehicle or crossover SUV in
the vein of the Bentley Bentayga, or more accurately, the Lucid Air or the
Faraday Future.

Pininfarina Automobili is not looking to build its own cars from the ground
up, but expects for higher volume models to use contract manufacturers and
to partner with companies to provide battery packs, motors, and maybe most
importantly state-of-the-art electronic connectivity.

Design has been placed in the hands of Luca Borgogno, who has worked at the
company for 13 years and spent two years at Lamborghini.

The cars will share a full-width headlight band reminiscent of the Ferrari
Daytona, updated to look more like a modern, white fiber-optic light tube.
The rear will share a similar treatment in red, though the PF0 will have two
separate, horizontal “wings” separated by what looks like a giant NACA duct
to allow air to flow out the rear.

Pininfarina was in New York to support Mahindra’s efforts in the latest
round of the Formula E Championship. The fourth executive the company is
bringing onto its team will be ex-Formula 1 driver Nick Heidfeld, who will
be responsible for developing the PF0’s chassis dynamics.

Perschke said he expects the company to find success based on its brand
heritage.

“Wealthy buyers like to tell a story,” he said. With Pininfarina’s heritage
of des

[EVDL] EVLN: BlackFly> Cheap Flying ultralight e-VTOL (v)

2018-07-17 Thread brucedp5 via EV

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2018/07/12/opener-blackfly-wants-to-be-vtol-flying-car-you-can-buy-next-year/
BlackFly Wants To Be The Flying Car You Can Finally Buy Next Year, And For
Cheap
Jul 12, 2018 Eric Mack

[image / Opener Solutions
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fericmack%2Ffiles%2F2018%2F07%2Fopener-marcus-flight-1-1-1200x799.jpg
BlackFly claims to be the world’s first ultralight all-electric fixed-wing
vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) aircraft

video
https://youtu.be/FI8AemQcclY
BlackFly - Flight
]

- BlackFly has more of a UFO look to it than other VTOLs and personal
flying vehicles out there.

- Leng told CBS News he hopes BlackFly will be on sale as soon as next
year for the price of an SUV.

Yet another startup has popped up promising to deliver the future filled
with flying cars that we've been promised for generations. BlackFly is an
all-electric vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) personal aerial vehicle
from a Silicon Valley via Canada company called Opener.

To call it a flying car is actually not quite correct, as it has no wheels,
but it is the latest in a lengthening line of personal flying vehicles that
aim to compete with cars as a primary way of getting around.

“Opener is re-energizing the art of flight with a safe and affordable flying
vehicle that can free its operators from the everyday restrictions of ground
transportation,” said designer and CEO Marcus Leng.

BlackFly has more of a UFO look to it than other VTOLs and personal flying
vehicles out there. Utilizing eight small rotors spread across two parallel
wings, it takes off by sort of rolling on and off the ground via its rounded
belly, which makes it look a little bit like an old school rocking horse.

Opener says it designed BlackFly with "triple-modular redundant flight
systems, control surfaces, and sensors" to ensure safety and has flown over
ten thousands miles of test flights. There's also auto-landing and
return-to-home features to add extra usability. The company says the single
passenger, joystick-operated system requires no formal licensing in the U.S.
to fly, but Opener will mandate that users take the FAA Private Pilot
written examination and complete its own operator training.
[© forbes.com]

http://fairydetox.org/2018/07/15/google-cofounder-larry-page-backs-blackfly-flying-auto.html
Google cofounder Larry Page backs BlackFly flying auto
15 July 2018 Although widely described as a "car", BlackFly has no wheels,
making more like a cargo drone with a human payload ... can travel 25 miles
at 62 mph, is fully amphibious, and allegedly so easy to use that you don't
need a licence to fly it ...

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[EVDL] Wrong-way Insurance-Scammer.my Stoopids an e-scooter fakey (v)

2018-07-17 Thread brucedp5 via EV

https://thecoverage.my/entertainment/stories/man-electric-scooter-fakes-accident-around-ss2-mall-claim-insurance/
Man On Electric Scooter Fakes Accident Around SS2 Mall To Claim Insurance
July 16, 2018 Laeranduil

[image / Facebook
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videos flash

dated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoes7rsZBA
Insurance Scammers are Awesome! (New 2015)

share
https://www.facebook.com/ShadowHau/posts/10155760349191229?hc_location=ufi
]

Remember those videos where people would run in front of cars or lorries to
fake an accident in order to claim for insurance? Those videos were
entertaining as they run towards the vehicle before throwing themselves on
the hood of the car while the dashboard camera captured everything. Sadly,
Malaysia has also been included in this loop no thanks to this guy!

A netizen, Ng Jhen Hau took to Facebook on July 10 to share his encounter
with an insurance scammer around SS2 mall area. He wrote in his post,

“(He) came from the wrong side of the road. I managed to stop in time,
he came and ‘touched’ my car, stood up then lied on the road.”

According to Ng, the man was riding an electric scooter on the opposite side
of the road. After Ng told him that he had a dash cam, which was a lie, the
man immediately stood back up and sat on his electric scooter, claiming that
he’s a handicap.

After Ng’s post went viral, he decided to lodge a police report the
following day for his own safety.

“I was proven to have my right of way, the guy in the post is totally at
fault by heading the wrong direction. As for him being cheating on victim’s
money by acting OKU or not, police will investigate further. Thank you.”

Ng has fully cooperated with the police on this matter and he got some
advice from the police to share.

Electric scooter falls under the same category as bicycles. It must follow
the direction of the road, cannot ride opposite the road (if collided with a
car, the car is not at fault). Electric scooters are limited to 25km/h and
do not need a licence to ride on the road (but not on the highway).

If the driver or a motorcyclist crash into a person without a bike or
electric scooter, then the driver is at fault. For this reason, dash cams
are encouraged to prevent people who want to cause fake accidents and blame
the drivers.

You’ve heard it guys, even the police are encouraging in getting a dashboard
camera, it’s for your own safety. Remember to stay alert on the road, and if
you encounter any situation like this, remember to stand your ground ...
[© thecoverage.my]
...
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stoopid
stoopid: Stupid to the extent that you can't even spell the word itself ...
...
www.yourdictionary.com/fakey
adjective. The definition of fakey is something that is not genuine or
legitimate. A smile you give to your worst enemy is an example of a fakey
smile ...

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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20180714

2018-07-17 Thread brucedp5 via EV

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Waymo-slapped-mod-d-I-Pace-e-SUVs-cruising-around-SF-CA-tp4690576.html
EVLN: Waymo slapped(mod'd) I-Pace e-SUVs cruising around SF-CA
Waymo gets its first three Jaguar I-Pace electric SUVs
July 12, 2018 -56 minutes ago The full Waymo livery we saw in the initial
partnership announcement isn't on display quite yet -- instead, the one car
we've seen sports a sedate gray paint job ...
https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/NKeHdwQf0ZeNzepn8PNl13cFTzg=/936x527/2018/03/26/e0ea1eba-0f27-43d4-85d5-9b8fe29e9fd1/2018-waymo-ipace-55.jpg

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-einride-tech-T-log-Nvidia-auton-logging-e-truck-se-r-200km-v-tp4690577.html
EVLN: einride.tech T-log> Nvidia-auton logging e-truck.se r:200km (v)
All-electric and autonomous logging truck unveiled
Jul. 12th 2018 1 hour ago - Every segment of ground transportation is
gradually being converted to electric propulsion ... startup is going after
logging trucks ... unveiled at the UK Goodwood Festival of Speed ... using
the Nvidia Drive self-driving (auton) platform ...
https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/07/T-log-4-e1531415424720.jpg?resize=1500%2C0&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1

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https://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/jaguar-unveils-go-i-pace-electric-test-app
Jaguar unveils Go I-Pace electric test app
12 Jul 2018 -13 hours ago The app was released to allow potential electric
vehicle customers to see whether ... Ian Hoban, Jaguar I-Pace vehicle
director, said: “Making the switch to EV ...
https://carkeys.azureedge.net/cache/1/e/4/9/7/4/1e4974bf1bc21dc235d7f9d6a1fa4e6f93866292.jpg

https://www.trucks.com/2018/07/17/autonomous-truck-developer-embark/
Autonomous Truck Developer Embark Sees Role for Humans in the Rig
July 17, 2018 -11 hours ago ... radically altering the economics of
transport for 70% of goods in America,” ... said during ... Automated
Vehicles Symposium in SF ... Regulations ... limit drivers to 11 hours/day
making 5days the fastest a truck can legally make that trans-continental run
... driverless trucks ... the same trip could be done in 2days ...
equivalent of ... 10x more expensive ... air freight ...
https://www.trucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/ambark-2.jpg
...
http://www.ttnews.com/articles/penske-tackles-challenges-battery-electric-trucks

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVrecord-Unmanned-Autopilot-Tesla-3-hypermils-1Mm-on-1charge-v-tp4690537.html
EVrecord: Unmanned+Autopilot Tesla-3 hypermils 1Mm on 1charge (v)
Tesla Model 3 unmanned on Autopilot travels 1,000 km on a single charge in
new hypermiling record
Jul. 16th 2018 · 31mThe new Model 3 record was organized by electric car
rental company ‘nextmove’ in Germany this weekend. A potential reason wh...
https://youtu.be/chpy0Yz5eNs

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[EVDL] EVLN: einride.tech T-log> Nvidia-auton logging e-truck.se r:200km (v)

2018-07-17 Thread brucedp5 via EV

% Lack of a driver’s cab will make the truck cheaper to produce %

https://electrek.co/2018/07/12/einride-t-log-all-electric-autonomous-logging-truck/
All-electric and autonomous logging truck unveiled
Jul. 12th 2018 Fred Lambert

[images
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prototype T-Log unveiled today

https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/07/T-log-6.jpg?quality=82&strip=all&w=1000

videos
https://youtu.be/m5HGUY3xxf8
Introducing the T-log

https://youtu.be/w7m2tsbLeao
World premiere of Einride’s latest product
]

Every segment of ground transportation is gradually being converted to
electric propulsion and now a startup is going after logging trucks.

Today, Swedish tech start-up Einride unveiled The T-log, an autonomous and
all-electric logging truck.

The vehicle was unveiled at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in the UK today
and it is building on Einride’s previously unveiled T-Pod truck.

Robert Falck, CEO of Einride, commented at the unveiling:

“Einride is constantly pushing the boundaries of autonomous and
all-electric vehicles in our ambition to lead the transition to a
sustainable transportation system. With the T-log, we’ve created a vehicle
that can withstand the rigours of a demanding environment. It is uncharted
territory for us, but also an enormous market for battery-powered AVs.”

The company claims that it can travel 200 km (124 miles) on a single charge
thanks to a 200 kWh battery pack.

As for the autonomous driving technology, Einride says that it is using the
Nvidia Drive self-driving platform and that it can not only work
autonomously but also be remote-controlled.

They explained how it enables a design without a cab:

“It has no driver’s cab but can be remote-controlled by a human
operator, from hundreds of miles away using Phantom Auto teleoperation
safety technology designed to provide robust, minimal latency
telecommunications even with 4G. No driver’s cab enables a smaller vehicle,
increased loading capacity, greater flexibility, lower production costs,
lower operating costs and optimized energy consumption, allowing the T-log
to run solely on batteries, even in difficult environments.”

Einride hasn’t released a timeline for production or a price target, but
they mentioned that the lack of driver’s cab will make the truck cheaper to
produce.

Here’s a spec list released by the company:
Loading capacity15 euro-pallets
Range 200km on one charge
Top speed 85km/h (electronically limited)
Battery capacity200kWh
Size7 x 2.5m (approximately)
Weight 26 tons fully loaded
[© electrek.co]

https://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/technology/t-log-electric-vehicle-moves-through-forests-autonomously
T-Log electric vehicle moves through forests autonomously
A Swedish startup has now presented a new prototype: the T-Log, an
autonomous battery-electric vehicle designed for transport ...

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https://www.trucks.com/2018/07/17/autonomous-truck-developer-embark/
Autonomous Truck Developer Embark Sees Role for Humans in the Rig
July 17, 2018 -11 hours ago ... radically altering the economics of
transport for 70% of goods in America,” ... said during ... Automated
Vehicles Symposium in SF ... Regulations ... limit drivers to 11 hours/day
making 5days the fastest a truck can legally make that trans-continental run
... driverless trucks ... the same trip could be done in 2days ...
equivalent of ... 10x more expensive ... air freight ...
https://www.trucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/ambark-2.jpg
...
http://www.ttnews.com/articles/penske-tackles-challenges-battery-electric-trucks
Penske Tackles Challenges of Battery-Electric Trucks
July 16, 2018 -19 hours ago Penske Truck Leasing is preparing to dive
deeper into medium- and heavy-duty ...electric trucks as ... alternatively
powered vehicles begin to ... Freightliner's heavy-duty eCascadia and
medium-duty eM2 ...
http://www.ttnews.com/sites/default/files/daimler-ecascadia-cab-em2.jpg

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[EVDL] EVLN: Waymo slapped(mod'd) I-Pace e-SUVs cruising around SF-CA

2018-07-17 Thread brucedp5 via EV

% EVangels note: For those that are against auton, there was a time when
manual elevators required a human oprerator
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator_operator
now, the public thinks nothing of using an auton elevator or amusement park
ride %

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/waymo-jaguar-i-pace-electric-suv-delivery/
aymo gets its first three Jaguar I-Pace electric SUVs
July 12, 2018 Andrew Krok

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It's subtle, but it'll be way less subtle once Waymo slaps its hardware all
over it / Waymo

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/jaguars-i-pace-gets-the-waymo-treatment/
gallery
]

The cars will be cruising around the San Francisco Bay Area.

In late March, Waymo announced that it would receive a number of Jaguar
I-Pace electric SUVs [
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2019-jaguar-i-pace/preview/
] in anticipation of a future self-driving ride-hailing service. Now, those
I-Paces are starting to roll in.

Waymo announced today that it has received its first three I-Paces from
Jaguar Land Rover. In fact, these three are the first I-Paces in the US
outside of Jaguar's own fleet. The full Waymo livery we saw in the initial
partnership announcement isn't on display quite yet -- instead, the one car
we've seen sports a sedate gray paint job with Waymo lettering by the rear
wheel. Roadshow's Slack channel is split on whether or not the wheels are
cool (I think they are).

For the time being, these cars are for development purposes only. The three
I-Paces will drive around the San Francisco Bay Area, scooping up data about
its roads. The goal is to eventually introduce the I-Paces into Waymo's
upcoming autonomous ride-hailing operation, which should happen in 2020.
Until then, the company will still rely on its fleet of Chrysler Pacifica
minivans, which will form the initial backbone of its ride-hailing service.

When the partnership first came about, Waymo said it pledged to buy up to
20,000 I-Paces [
https://www.cnet.com/news/waymo-jaguar-ipace-self-driving-electric-suv/
] by 2022, which is quite the number. Jaguar won't be supplying Waymo with
all that extraneous hardware -- it will merely serve as the platform on
which Waymo will affix the additional hardware and software necessary to
enable true automation.

Waymo doesn't plan to stop at ride hailing, either. The company wants to get
its self-driving platform into three other arenas, as well -- delivery and
logistics, public transit connections and personal ownership.
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Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack (Second thoughts)

2018-07-17 Thread Lee Hart via EV


Roger Daisley via EV wrote:

Reading thru the prior comments (which I really appreciate) I am
starting to wonder if I'm getting ahead of the cost curve. Maybe I
should carefully consider if lithium i.e., Leaf packs, is the way
to go, at this time? Another set of floodies is about $3000 and
good for four to five years. Maybe by that time the cost for
lithium will be substantially lower.


ken via EV wrote:

floodies may get 300- maybe 500 cycles @ 50% Dod if your easy on them,
lithium will get 2000 cycles or more at 50% DOD, ad  be Way
lighter!


It's actually a complicated questions, with pluses and minuses on both 
sides.


Lead-acid is readily available, safe, simple, and cheap. You don't need 
a BMS or special charger, so you save money there as well. AGMs or 12v 
floodeds won't last long (200-500 cycles). 6v floodeds, gels, and big 
industrial floodeds can last significantly longer (700-2000 cycles). 
They are easy to recycles. The downsides are the weight, and floodeds 
are messy.


Lithium is lighter (thus the same weight gives you more range). They 
offer the promise of longer life; but that assumes you get premium ones, 
and add a good charger and BMS, and don't "murder" them early from 
misuse. They are significantly more expensive, especially when a new 
charger and BMS are needed. Instead of corrosion, fire is a serious concern.


Of course, price for either option depends heavily on whether you are 
buying new, or used/surplus/cheap junk.


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Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack (Second thoughts)

2018-07-17 Thread Willie via EV





On 07/17/2018 12:23 AM, ken via EV wrote:

On Fri, June 22, 2018 11:38 pm, Roger Daisley via EV wrote:

Reading thru the prior comments (which I really appreciate) I am starting
to wonder if I'm getting ahead of the cost curve. Maybe I should carefully
  consider if lithium i.e., Leaf packs, is the way to go, at this time?
Another set of floodies is about $3000 and good for four to five years.
Maybe by that time the cost for lithium will be substantially lower.


floodies may get 300- maybe 500 cycles @ 50% Dod if your easy on them ,
lithium will get 2000 cycles or more at 50% DOD, ad  be Way lighter!


Yes, it now seems pretty obvious.  Especially with the salvaged 
Leaf/Volt modules appearing.  Lithium can be found at about the same 
price per kwh as flooded lead.  For the same capacity, lithium will 
weigh about 1/3, noticeably increasing performance. Lithium is likely to 
last several times as long as lead.  Lithium generally does not have 
much sag during discharge, again increasing performance.  Lithium will 
not subject your car to an acid mist which ruins electric connections 
and turns steel into powder.

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