[EVDL] VW van for sale in San Francisco.
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[EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings bite them in the arse
https://electrek.co/2019/05/24/byd-indianapolis-electric-bus-range/
BYD installing wireless charging in Indianapolis to boost disappointing
range of its electric buses
May. 24th 2019
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Electric bus maker BYD has to install and pay for a wireless charging
infrastructure upgrade in Indianapolis after its buses experienced
“lower-than-expected distances on one charge” during testing.
Indianapolis Public Transportation Corporation IndyGo announced it reached
an agreement with BYD to get the new infrastructure. BYD will install
wireless charging hardware for the buses, in addition to three wireless
inductive charging pads along bus routes.
During testing, IndyGo realized low temperatures were causing a dramatic
dropoff in predicted range. Justin Stuehrenberg, IndyGo vice president of
capital projects and planning, said:
“We anticipated that vehicle range would depend on temperature, but the
contract requires a 275-mile range at 0 degrees. Our team identified several
options to address the issue and worked closely with BYD to determine the
most feasible resolution. At the same time, we made it clear to the company
they must be accountable to our contract. Numerous test days this spring
resulted in range performance at and above the contractually required 275
miles on a single charge. To date, the best range of any one test was 307
miles on a single charge.”
Many of those tests didn’t approach the required 275 miles, usually ending
somewhere in the low 200-mile range, as the range report from IndyGo
reveals. On one frigid day, range was limited to 152 miles.
BYD’s buses will now periodically charge for 10-20 minutes at the three
wireless locations. IndyGo claims it can be done without interrupting
service, as drivers will take scheduled breaks with no passengers on board
during those times.
This isn’t the only time BYD’s buses have encountered range issues.
Albuquerque opted to “reject and return” 15 BYD electric buses last year.
The buses experienced range, braking, and electrical issues, the Albuquerque
Journal reported. Albuquerque then decided to order diesel buses.
Indianapolis is pushing forward with the wireless charging plan instead.
Stuehrenberg said a bus system in Washington state uses a similar wireless
system that works in any weather, according to an IndyStar report.
IndyGo’s Red Line is aiming to be the nation’s first battery-electric bus
rapid transit route, and it’s set to launch Sept. 1. IndyGo plans to operate
a 100 percent electric bus fleet by 2035.
Electrek’s Take
We’d like to stress that this sort of thing is not a problem for
all-electric buses, but it does seem to be a bit of a problem for BYD. The
Chinese manufacturer has sold many buses to other countries, as well — see
our Latin America electric bus update from earlier today.
We’re hoping the manufacturer can resolve its issues — not due to any sort
of allegiance to that particular company, but because we don’t need more
obstacles to widespread bus adoption, especially in the US. Any repeat of
Albuquerque would be a big setback.
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Re: [EVDL] BYD's(style.cn) inflated range ratings bite them in the arse
Anybody that drives an EV, even a Volt that is a series hybrid realize the
cold temperature limitations, especially if you like to keep it warm and cozy
on cold days. I get 46 miles EV on my 2014 Volt on the best days, 24 miles on
the coldest nastiest days when I like to keep the car warm and toasty. Not a
problem for me since I commute 21 miles and plug in at work and I also plug in
at home with 240V so I never use gas. My best guess is this BYD range was
estimated by sales and marketing while the engineers were cringing in the
corner knowing it was complete BS, but the accounting department and upper
management looking for higher returns on investment realized range needed to be
increased to meet contracts with bus fleets that required the higher range,
regardless of them actually needing them. The good news is that the majority
of bus manufactures see the writing on the wall and are planning for an all
electric fleet knowing that will be demanded soon by many fleet orders. The
immediate future for bus transit is electric and most manufactures are already
gearing up for that. With the advancements in batteries, motors and controls,
most fleet operators realize that electric is cheaper to maintain than diesel
or natural gas. The transitions will not happen overnight, been when the
people paying for overall cost of fleet operation is much cheaper on electric
they will switch, and it's coming soon < 5 years.
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 10:34:59 PM EDT, brucedp5 via EV
wrote:
https://electrek.co/2019/05/24/byd-indianapolis-electric-bus-range/
BYD installing wireless charging in Indianapolis to boost disappointing
range of its electric buses
May. 24th 2019
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e-bus
]
Electric bus maker BYD has to install and pay for a wireless charging
infrastructure upgrade in Indianapolis after its buses experienced
“lower-than-expected distances on one charge” during testing.
Indianapolis Public Transportation Corporation IndyGo announced it reached
an agreement with BYD to get the new infrastructure. BYD will install
wireless charging hardware for the buses, in addition to three wireless
inductive charging pads along bus routes.
During testing, IndyGo realized low temperatures were causing a dramatic
dropoff in predicted range. Justin Stuehrenberg, IndyGo vice president of
capital projects and planning, said:
“We anticipated that vehicle range would depend on temperature, but the
contract requires a 275-mile range at 0 degrees. Our team identified several
options to address the issue and worked closely with BYD to determine the
most feasible resolution. At the same time, we made it clear to the company
they must be accountable to our contract. Numerous test days this spring
resulted in range performance at and above the contractually required 275
miles on a single charge. To date, the best range of any one test was 307
miles on a single charge.”
Many of those tests didn’t approach the required 275 miles, usually ending
somewhere in the low 200-mile range, as the range report from IndyGo
reveals. On one frigid day, range was limited to 152 miles.
BYD’s buses will now periodically charge for 10-20 minutes at the three
wireless locations. IndyGo claims it can be done without interrupting
service, as drivers will take scheduled breaks with no passengers on board
during those times.
This isn’t the only time BYD’s buses have encountered range issues.
Albuquerque opted to “reject and return” 15 BYD electric buses last year.
The buses experienced range, braking, and electrical issues, the Albuquerque
Journal reported. Albuquerque then decided to order diesel buses.
Indianapolis is pushing forward with the wireless charging plan instead.
Stuehrenberg said a bus system in Washington state uses a similar wireless
system that works in any weather, according to an IndyStar report.
IndyGo’s Red Line is aiming to be the nation’s first battery-electric bus
rapid transit route, and it’s set to launch Sept. 1. IndyGo plans to operate
a 100 percent electric bus fleet by 2035.
Electrek’s Take
We’d like to stress that this sort of thing is not a problem for
all-electric buses, but it does seem to be a bit of a problem for BYD. The
Chinese manufacturer has sold many buses to other countries, as well — see
our Latin America electric bus update from earlier today.
We’re hoping the manufacturer can resolve its issues — not due to any sort
of allegiance to that particular company, but because we don’t need more
obstacles to widespread bus adoption, especially in the US. Any repeat of
Albuquerque would be a big setback.
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[EVDL] EVLN: BYD 8R class8 rear-loading garbage e-truck Seattle-WA
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/05/seattle-makes-history-with-electric-garbage-truck/
Seattle makes history with electric garbage truck
5/22/2019 Jonathan M. Gitlin
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This is Recology's new BYD 8R, the first electric rear-loading class 8
garbage truck in the US
]
Recology has taken delivery of its first BYD 8R rear-loading class 8 garbage
truck.
If you live in Seattle, your scheduled garbage pickup might be about to get
a lot quieter. Recology, a West Coast waste management company, has just
taken the delivery of its first fully electric garbage trucks. The vehicle
is a class 8 truck—meaning the heaviest—made by BYD, with New Way supplying
the Viper rear-loading garbage truck body. It's also apparently the first
electric class 8 rear-loader in the country and the first of two that
Recology ordered last year.
The BYD's specs make for very different reading compared to the average
electric vehicles we cover. The powertrain is a 320kW (430hp), 1101Nm
(812ft-lbs) electric motor, supplied by a 295kWh battery pack. However, it
does have to carry around a truck with a 21,605lb (9,800kg) curb weight, and
it can be optioned to a gross vehicle weight of either 57,500lbs (26,082kg)
or 66,000lbs (29,937kg). (Interestingly, the photo BYD sent us has the GVW
at 50,000lbs on the door.)
All that mass means the truck is limited to a 65mph (104km/h) top speed and
a range of 56 miles (90km) and 600 pickups. Recharging the truck doesn't
take as long as you think, despite all those kWh—nine hours connected to a
33kW AC outlet. The 8R supports either 120kW or 240kW DC fast charging,
which takes 2.5 hours or 1.5 hours to recharge, respectively.
I admit, the fact that this is the US' first electric rear-loader surprises
me. Just as with passenger vehicles, some heavy vehicle use cases are better
suited to electrification than others. And collecting the garbage is
probably one of the most ideal. Route distances tend to be short and feature
plenty of starting and stopping. The instant torque of an EV powertrain
certainly helps with the starting part, particularly when it's a vehicle
this heavy, and regenerative braking means each stop is a way to recapture
some energy. Like passenger buses and port haulers, garbage trucks also
spend plenty of their workday idling, which isn't something EVs worry about.
An electric powertrain also vibrates a lot less than a diesel one, so wear
and tear over its service life ought to be better than a fossil-fuel-powered
equivalent.
Despite this, electric garbage trucks are still few and far between. BYD's
main competitor is Motiv Power Systems, which has sold small fleets of class
8 side-loading garbage trucks to Los Angeles and Sacramento, California.
Wrightspeed, which was also making hybrid-electric garbage trucks—featured
in this article from 2015—appears to have gone dormant, despite a contract
to supply the New Zealand cities of Auckland and Wellington. And recently,
Volvo announced a battery electric garbage truck, the FE Electric, although
it appears to be limited to the European market.
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EVLN: BYD Building Amrep 8R side-loader Refuse e-Truck Carson-CA
May 16 2019
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Automotive Electric Supercharger Market Sustains Competitiveness by Adoption
of Technological Innovations 2025
May 24, 2019 The automotive electric supercharger enables complete
combustion for a cleaner running ... Few vehicles such as BMW i8, Tesla
Motor's model-S, Nissan Leaf, ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: Mitsubishi ASX(RVR) e-SUV in the works4 2020> no unique nameplate
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/autos/news/mitsubishi-electric-suv-in-the-works/ar-AABU1j0
Mitsubishi electric SUV in the works
May 25, 2019 Mark Kane
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In the near-future Mitsubishi could introduce a next-generation Outlander
PHEV, Eclipse Cross PHEV and ASX BEV
Mitsubishi is gearing up for a reorganization of its crossover/SUV lineup
and greater differentiation between the three models - Outlander, Eclipse
Cross, and ASX (aka RVR or Outlander Sport) from 2020.
For example, the length difference between the models will be around 200 mm,
which means that the Outlander needs to be slightly longer, while the ASX
needs to be shorter. That way Mitsubishi will achieve differentiation
similar to Nissan's X-Trail, Qashqai, and Juke.
“Today we aren’t in an ideal position, with our SUVs close in size, but
in the next 18 months you will start to see a strategy that separates them
out,”
The second thing is that the Japanese manufacturer intends to introduce more
plug-ins:
... ASX to get an all-electric option ...
“We will not have a unique nameplate, but instead offer the appropriate
electrification options for the vehicles and how people will use them,”
Mitsubishi is also considering the introduction of the next-generation
Mirage in conventional and electrified versions.
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Solar-boosted Sono Sion electric car will be made in Sweden at former Saab
plant
Apr 24, 2019 German automaker hopeful Sono Motors ... intends to assemble
its solar-assisted electric car, the Sion, at the former home of Saab
Automobile ...
https://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/sono-sion-solar-assisted-electric-car_100695111_l.jpg
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20190530
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-BYD-8R-class8-rear-loading-garbage-e-truck-Seattle-WA-tp4693708.html
EVLN: BYD 8R class8 rear-loading garbage e-truck Seattle-WA
Seattle makes history with electric garbage truck
5/22/2019 Recology, a West Coast waste management company, has just taken
the delivery of its first fully electric garbage trucks. The vehicle is a
class 8 truck—meaning ...
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Recology_1-800x609.jpg
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Mitsubishi-ASX-RVR-e-SUV-in-the-works4-2020-no-unique-nameplate-tp4693709.html
EVLN: Mitsubishi ASX(RVR) e-SUV in the works4 2020> no unique nameplate
Mitsubishi electric SUV in the works
May 25, 2019 “We will not have a unique nameplate, but instead offer the
appropriate electrification options for the vehicles and how ...
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AABUalL.img
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Automotive Electric Supercharger Market Sustains Competitiveness by Adoption
of Technological Innovations 2025
May 24, 2019 The automotive electric supercharger enables complete
combustion for a cleaner running ... Few vehicles such as BMW i8, Tesla
Motor's model-S, Nissan Leaf, ...
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1122755_solar-boosted-sono-sion-electric-car-will-be-made-in-sweden-at-former-saab-plant
Solar-boosted Sono Sion electric car will be made in Sweden at former Saab
plant
Apr 24, 2019 German automaker hopeful Sono Motors ... intends to assemble
its solar-assisted electric car, the Sion, at the former home of Saab
Automobile ...
https://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/sono-sion-solar-assisted-electric-car_100695111_l.jpg
https://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/Science/20190525/3546926.html
Some Tesla stations to limit supercharging to 80%
2019-05-25 Electric vehicle-maker Tesla is updating some of its
supercharger stations to limit the top state of charge (SoC) to 80 per cent
at busy stations to reduce wait times. "The limit will be enforced ...
...
https://evbite.com/tesla-to-cap-charging-capacity-at-superchargers/
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Hilarious-Twit-reactions-to-Musk-mocking-e-tron-ad-tp4693701.html
Hilarious Twit-reactions to Musk mocking e-tron ad
25-05-2019 Elon Musk mocks Audi's electric car ad; provoking hilarious
reactions on Twitter
25-05-2019 Elon Musk, the man behind Tesla, has openly mocked Audi's new ad
boasting about their new electric car. Tesla has been at the forefront in
electric cars ...
https://twitter.com/VxfuryB/status/1132219271306797057
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[EVDL] EVLN: Triumph,Williams e-motorcycle alliance
https://newatlas.com/triumph-williams-electric-motorcycles/59784/
Triumph and Williams form alliance to start building electric motorcycles
May 22, 2019 Loz Blain
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Triumph is preparing to get into the electric vehicle business, and has
formed a government-sponsored alliance with Williams Advanced Engineering,
Integral Powertrain Limited and WMG from the University of Warwick to get
things moving(Credit: Triumph Motorcycles)
]
Team Britain has begun assembling its forces to join the battle for electric
motorcycling supremacy. Now, in a government-supported push to develop
electric motorcycle capabilities, Triumph and Williams Advanced Engineering
have entered an alliance with Integral Powertrain and WMG.
"Project Triumph TE-1" will be a two-year effort, partially funded by the UK
government in the hopes that this alliance can place the UK in a position to
compete in an emerging electric motorcycle market. Here's how each group's
contributions will break down:
Triumph will lead the effort, providing all the "cycle" parts of the
motorcycle prototypes as well as specifying what is needed from the electric
powertrain. It'll also get involved in the design and integration of
regenerative braking and advanced safety systems.
Williams Advanced Engineering will design, develop, produce and
integrate a lightweight battery pack, battery management unit and vehicle
control unit.
Integral Powertrain's e-Drive division is in charge of the motor, a
custom-built unit with high power density and a silicon carbide inverter
integrated into the motor housing.
WMG, at the University of Warwick, will be concentrating on
commercialization issues, modeling and simulating future market needs.
And Innovate UK, a government agency founded to promote science and
technology, will provide government support and administer funding. If this
partnership can get more electric motorcycles onto the road, it'll be a win
for various government agencies tasked with reducing road congestion and
vehicle emissions.
The overall goal here is to develop each partner's capabilities in a
motorcycle-specific context, while putting Triumph in a position to get
something electric onto the market within a few years.
"We see a Triumph electric powertrain as a significant requirement alongside
our signature twin and triple cylinder engines," says Triumph Chief Product
Officer Steve Sargent. "As part of our electric motorcycle initiative,
Project Triumph TE-1 represents an exciting collaboration that will provide
valuable input into our future line-up."
So, we won't be seeing anything we can sling our leg over for some time yet,
but in the meantime it's interesting to speculate what an electric Triumph
might look like. It'll be hard to give it the kind of retro heritage look
that drives much of the company's catalog, given the motor-centric design
that tends to entail. The easiest fit might be to hide a generally fairly
boxy and unattractive electric powertrain underneath a fairing.
But the greatest win for the industry in general might come if this alliance
can find a way to make an electric motor and battery pack actually look
actively awesome. Motorcycle people in general love a beautiful motor, with
some visible mechanics to it. There might not be much in the way of moving
parts to enjoy with electric motors, but we suspect once they start looking
cool, they'll start capturing the imagination of the enthusiast market.
[© newatlas.com]
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15 May 2019 Triumph Motorcycles announces a unique collaboration with UK
industry experts, academic leaders and Innovate UK, to develop specialist
electric motorcycle technology and innovative integrated solutions. This
two-year project, in partnership with Williams Advanced Engineering,
Integral Powertrain Ltd, and WMG, at the University of Warwick, will provide
significant input into potential future electric motorcycle offers from
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[EVDL] EVLN: Chevron-pr is pro-EV &has secret con-EV campaign> forked-tongue
https://electrek.co/2019/05/28/chevron-secret-campaign-electric-cars/ Chevron lobbyist pushes secretive campaign against electric cars in Arizona May. 28th 2019 Phil Dzikiy [images https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/05/evgochevron.jpg share https://twitter.com/Court_Rich/status/1129521190718980096 Court Rich @Court_Rich What leadership looks like: Group rep’ing @Microsoft @Nike @Starbucks @lyft and others urges strong mandatory renewable standards in AZ: https://images.edocket.azcc.gov/docketpdf/198008.pdf … What corporate rent seeking looks like: @Chevron trying to use AstroTurf to stop AZ EV growth: https://images.edocket.azcc.gov/docketpdf/E00802.pdf … 5:56 PM - May 17, 2019 ] Oil and gas company Chevron recently announced that it’s bringing electric vehicle chargers to its gas stations — meanwhile, one of its lobbyists is spurring a fight against EV infrastructure in Arizona. A Chevron lobbyist is persuading retirees of the company in Arizona to push back against electric car policies in the state, the Arizona Republic reports. As the article notes, these Chevron retirees are using a form letter designed to urge Arizona Corporation Commissioners “not to require electric companies here to build electric car charging stations.” The Chevron retirees are also not identifying themselves as such, which is what’s causing the controversy. Chevron lobbyist Marian Catedral-King sent the “call to action” form letter to Sel Larsen, president of the Arizona retirees group. But David Newell of Scottsdale alerted the commissioners to the effort with his own email. It seems the letter got into the hands of the wrong person — Newell worked for Unocal on geothermal energy projects, but “because that company was acquired by Chevron, he is considered a Chevron retiree.” As Newell wrote to commissioners about Chevron’s efforts: I emphatically do not share their point of view. Many of the points raised in these attachments are irrelevant, inaccurate or misleading. They are raised in service of preserving the status quo of entrenched interests. These businesses perceive electric vehicles as a serious threat to their business model and are attempting to recruit those who might be seen by you as disinterested parties to promote their interests. You can read both the lobbyist letter and Newell’s full response here. As Newell told the Arizona Republic, “It’s within their rights to make their position known. It’s unfair to enlist people without clearly identifying who they are.” Catedral-King did not respond to questions, but Larsen did speak with the Arizona Republic, saying the retiree group was “not opposed to environmental issues at all if they are fair.” He also said, “If utilities are forced to provide infrastructure, then I pay for their choice of cars. The government already subsidizes that industry.” The article follows that with this fine sentence: “Larsen said he could not comment on whether Chevron’s oil operations receive any government subsidies.” Court Rich, an Arizona attorney who represents renewable energy interests, criticized the effort on Twitter: He also characterized the move as desperate, telling the Republic: “Ironically, I bet this is the same failed tactic that a desperate horse and buggy lobbyist once used to try and scare the public against gas automobiles.” Chevron announced a partnership with EVgo just last week, as the company is bringing EVgo’s chargers to some of its gas stations. More than a dozen EVgo fast chargers are currently operational or under construction at various Chevron stations in California. Electrek’s Take Chevron’s one hand makes a public display of installing EV chargers while the other hand secretively urges a group of former employees to fight back against electric cars in their own state. As we’ve noted, it’s not that these oil companies want to embrace EV adoption. Old habits die hard — if they ever die at all. (Astroturfing is becoming a favored technique in the energy industry.) These retirees really should be doing something — anything — better with their time. Kudos to Newell for being a voice for progress and exposing this campaign. [© electrek.co] ... https://google.com/search?q=speak+with+forked+tongue forked tongue https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/energy/2019/05/28/chevron-exec-enlists-arizona-retirees-effort-against-electric-cars/3700955002/ Chevron executive is secretly pushing anti-electric car effort in Arizona May 28, 2019 A California lobbyist for Chevron Corp. is urging retirees of the oil company in Arizona to oppose electric-car policies here, saying the vehicles are too expensive ... https://twitter.com/Court_Rich/status/1129521190718980096 [dated] http://www.ev1.org/chevron.htm GM, Chevron and CARB killed the sole NiMH EV once, will do so again ... “Chevron controls the worldwide patent rights for NIMH batteries used in the RAV4-EV (gen1), and won't allow thei
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EVLN: Triumph,Williams e-motorcycle alliance
Triumph and Williams form alliance to start building electric motorcycles
May 22, 2019 Team Britain has begun assembling its forces to join the
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EVLN: Chevron-pr is pro-EV &has secret con-EV campaign> forked-tongue
Chevron lobbyist pushes secretive campaign against electric cars in Arizona
May. 28th 2019 Oil and gas company Chevron recently announced that it's
bringing electric vehicle chargers to its gas stations — meanwhile, one of
its lobbyists is spurring a fight against EV infrastructure ...
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Patent Fillings Show Jaguar's Wild Return To Motorcycles
May 23, 2019 From the moment that Arc Vehicles showed off its futuristic
electric Vector bike last November, the company ...
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https://cleantechnica.com/2019/05/25/chargepoint-chevron-partner-to-bring-more-fast-charging-to-more-gas-stations/
ChargePoint & Chevron Partner To Bring More Fast Charging To More Gas
Stations
May 25, 2019 ChargePoint and Chevron have partnered on a new corridor of DC
Fast Charging ... “We are excited to be working with ChargePoint to install
electric vehicle ...
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/audi-tt-getting-replaced-emotive-142200528.html
The Audi TT Is Getting Replaced by an "Emotive" Electric Car
May 23, 2019 The Audi TT will be replaced in a few years by a new, fully
electric model that might not be a sports car at all. Audi says the new EV
will be "emotive" and priced ...
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$3B VW dieselgate fund$ squandered> lack of EV focus
States squandering $3B VW settlement fund with lack of EV focus: report
May 24, 2019 However, the report points out that more than a dozen states
have either no plan, or limited plans, to prioritize electric vehicles (EV)
and infrastructure. The report ...
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chevron-pr is pro-EV &has secret con-EV campaign> forked-tongue
My favorite line: “Ironically, I bet this is the same failed tactic that a desperate horse and buggy lobbyist once used to try and scare the public against gas automobiles.” - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 28, 2019, at 10:50 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > https://electrek.co/2019/05/28/chevron-secret-campaign-electric-cars/ > Chevron lobbyist pushes secretive campaign against electric cars in Arizona > May. 28th 2019 Phil Dzikiy > > [images > https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/05/evgochevron.jpg > > > share > https://twitter.com/Court_Rich/status/1129521190718980096 > Court Rich @Court_Rich > What leadership looks like: Group rep’ing @Microsoft @Nike @Starbucks @lyft > and others urges strong mandatory renewable standards in AZ: > https://images.edocket.azcc.gov/docketpdf/198008.pdf … > > What corporate rent seeking looks like: @Chevron trying to use AstroTurf to > stop AZ EV growth: https://images.edocket.azcc.gov/docketpdf/E00802.pdf > … > 5:56 PM - May 17, 2019 > ] > > Oil and gas company Chevron recently announced that it’s bringing electric > vehicle chargers to its gas stations — meanwhile, one of its lobbyists is > spurring a fight against EV infrastructure in Arizona. > > A Chevron lobbyist is persuading retirees of the company in Arizona to push > back against electric car policies in the state, the Arizona Republic > reports. > > As the article notes, these Chevron retirees are using a form letter > designed to urge Arizona Corporation Commissioners “not to require electric > companies here to build electric car charging stations.” The Chevron > retirees are also not identifying themselves as such, which is what’s > causing the controversy. > > Chevron lobbyist Marian Catedral-King sent the “call to action” form letter > to Sel Larsen, president of the Arizona retirees group. > > But David Newell of Scottsdale alerted the commissioners to the effort with > his own email. It seems the letter got into the hands of the wrong person — > Newell worked for Unocal on geothermal energy projects, but “because that > company was acquired by Chevron, he is considered a Chevron retiree.” > > As Newell wrote to commissioners about Chevron’s efforts: > >I emphatically do not share their point of view. Many of the points > raised in these attachments are irrelevant, inaccurate or misleading. They > are raised in service of preserving the status quo of entrenched interests. > These businesses perceive electric vehicles as a serious threat to their > business model and are attempting to recruit those who might be seen by you > as disinterested parties to promote their interests. > > You can read both the lobbyist letter and Newell’s full response here. As > Newell told the Arizona Republic, > >“It’s within their rights to make their position known. It’s unfair to > enlist people without clearly identifying who they are.” > > Catedral-King did not respond to questions, but Larsen did speak with the > Arizona Republic, saying the retiree group was “not opposed to environmental > issues at all if they are fair.” He also said, > >“If utilities are forced to provide infrastructure, then I pay for their > choice of cars. The government already subsidizes that industry.” > > The article follows that with this fine sentence: “Larsen said he could not > comment on whether Chevron’s oil operations receive any government > subsidies.” > > Court Rich, an Arizona attorney who represents renewable energy interests, > criticized the effort on Twitter: > > He also characterized the move as desperate, telling the Republic: > >“Ironically, I bet this is the same failed tactic that a desperate horse > and buggy lobbyist once used to try and scare the public against gas > automobiles.” > > Chevron announced a partnership with EVgo just last week, as the company is > bringing EVgo’s chargers to some of its gas stations. More than a dozen EVgo > fast chargers are currently operational or under construction at various > Chevron stations in California. > Electrek’s Take > > Chevron’s one hand makes a public display of installing EV chargers while > the other hand secretively urges a group of former employees to fight back > against electric cars in their own state. As we’ve noted, it’s not that > these oil companies want to embrace EV adoption. Old habits die hard — if > they ever die at all. (Astroturfing is becoming a favored technique in the > energy industry.) > > These retirees really should be doing something — anything — better with > their time. Kudos to Newell for being a voice for progress and exposing this > campaign. > [© electrek.co] > ... > https://google.com/search?q=speak+with+forked+tongue > forked tongue > > > https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/energy/2019/05/28/chevron-exec-enlists-arizona-retirees-effort-against-electric-cars/3700955002/ > Chevron executive is secretly pushing anti-electric
