Re: [EVDL] EV blows up in garage.ca: ... fire &explodes in Île-Bizard garage

2019-07-27 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
According to the news, it was a Hyundai Kona.


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 8:02 PM brucedp5 via EV  wrote:
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>  (text sez don't know what brand electrified, generic video)
> https://globalnews.ca/news/5689903/electric-car-blows-up-montreal/
> Montreal firefighters investigating after electric vehicle blows up in
> garage
> July 26, 2019  The Montreal fire department is investigating after an
> electric car, parked inside a residential garage, blew up Friday afternoon
> ... Desrosiers could not confirm the make of the vehicle, only saying it was
> an all-electric vehicle ...
> ...
> https://www.google.com/search?q=Montreal+fire++electric+garage
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Re: [EVDL] V2H

2019-07-27 Thread Alan Arrison via EV

I had been wondering why something like this hadn't been done yet.

However, it is by no means a done deal. They have a big problem to 
solve. They would have to work with all the automakers to have the 
vehicles allow access to the battery through the charge port and allow 
power to flow out of the battery.


Good luck with that.

Al

On 7/27/2019 9:33 AM, Willie via EV wrote:

Anyone know anything about this:
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/07/26/wallbox-launches-in-us-china-adds-residential-bi-directional-dc-fast-charger/ 


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[EVDL] TX sez “Electric vehicles are not allowed,”> excuse fire

2019-07-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV


The following EVnews link is offt and not allowed for discussion on the
evdl.org  Please keep evdl.org discussion on-topic. 
The reason I posted it, is their excuse of fire, is unfounded (and they know
it).
So, again I smell koch-koolaid involved.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-evs-barred-from-drag-racing-over-fire-concerns/
 “Electric vehicles are not allowed,”




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[EVDL] EV blows up in garage.ca: ... fire &explodes in Île-Bizard garage

2019-07-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV


[ref
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVcrash-40ft-plummeted-embankment-into-Portland-OR-playground-v-tp4694334.html
]

 (text sez don't know what brand electrified, generic video)
https://globalnews.ca/news/5689903/electric-car-blows-up-montreal/
Montreal firefighters investigating after electric vehicle blows up in
garage
July 26, 2019  The Montreal fire department is investigating after an
electric car, parked inside a residential garage, blew up Friday afternoon
... Desrosiers could not confirm the make of the vehicle, only saying it was
an all-electric vehicle ...
...
https://www.google.com/search?q=Montreal+fire++electric+garage




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[EVDL] article: Electric car catches fire and explodes in Île-Bizard garage

2019-07-27 Thread Paul Wujek via EV
Unexplained fire of parked Hyundai Kona EV: 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/electric-car-catches-fire-and-explodes-in-%C3%AEle-bizard-garage-1.5227665

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Re: [EVDL] EV Charging Signs - Pro EV outreach

2019-07-27 Thread Willie via EV




On 7/27/19 11:29 AM, Josh L via EV wrote:

I'm having some trouble setting up my email reader to catch all
the messages from the group in a coherent way, but it sounds
like the signs are not for sale, but if we put our minds to it,
we can have our own made, such as with Bob's wording and ideas.
I'll probably then proceed to do that, when time permits.


If you can get the price down to ~$10, I'd be in for 20-30.  8"x12" or 
larger; weather resistant on ~1/16" aluminum.


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[EVDL] Looking for a charger - lightning struck!

2019-07-27 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Last week while I was away I accidentally left my boat plugged in while a
severe storm passed through.  Lightning must have struck nearby as the
charger stopped putting out a charge. Further inspection revealed traces of
an arc flash and a exploded mosfet.  Not sure if its repairable or not.
Does anyone have or recomend/know where I could find another charger?  It's
a 96v 26s (109.2v), 110v , 10 amps.  The nearest one I can find is in
China.  Certainly would be willing to pay extra for a quality charger,  I
bought some Sevcon lead chargers a few years back and they are still
working great, worth the price.

Thank you
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Re: [EVDL] EV Charging Signs - Pro EV outreach

2019-07-27 Thread Josh L via EV
I'm having some trouble setting up my email reader to catch all
the messages from the group in a coherent way, but it sounds
like the signs are not for sale, but if we put our minds to it,
we can have our own made, such as with Bob's wording and ideas.
I'll probably then proceed to do that, when time permits.

I've bought one or two placcards and eqtiquette notices for the
cable, and sometimes they are not exactly what I want, and so
perhaps there just needs to be continued evolution on this
point.


Josh

On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 23:19:11 -0400, Robert Bruninga via EV
 you wrote:

>> For that purpose, personally I find Robert’s far superior
>> than those at the Amazon links.
>
>Yes, I emphasize the CHARGING OUTLETS, as definitely distinct from CHARGING
>STATIONS.  Because the point I am tryint to make is that you dont need no
>stinkin' charging station (for the average 40 mile a day EV)..  Too many
>people still think they need to go somewhere to a charging station
>somewhere and sit there and wait for ever  Bob
>
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>>
>> > On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Rod Hower via EV 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > They have a bunch of signs on Amazon,
>> >
>> https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Reserved-Aluminum/dp/B076H9XRCL/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=electric%2Bvehicle%2Bcharging%2Bsign&qid=1564169422&s=gateway&sr=8-7
>> >
>> https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Station-Sign/dp/B005WZXXEI/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=electric%2Bvehicle%2Bcharging%2Bsign&qid=1564169422&s=gateway&sr=8-8
>> >
>> https://www.amazon.com/ComplianceSigns-Aluminum-Reflective-Alternative-English/dp/B00IRKN44E/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=electric%2Bvehicle%2Bcharging%2Bsign&qid=1564169422&s=gateway&sr=8-10
>> > Or search for 'electric+vehicle+charging+sign'
>> >On Friday, July 26, 2019, 02:14:53 PM EDT, Robert Bruninga via EV <
>> ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > I just give the graphics to a local sign company, but have to buy about
>> 25
>> > at a time to get t he price down to about $15 each and to get a good
>> > quality aluminum sign.  Any sign company can do it.  Feel free to use my
>> > graphics on that page or my other pages:
>> > http://aprs.org/EV-charging-signs.html
>> > http://aprs.org/EV-charging-everywhere.html
>> >
>> > If you don't want to foot the bill yourself, find a local environmental
>> > group to invest in them.
>> >
>> > I used to try to ask for $20 donation for each sign, but found that
>> trying
>> > to convince someone to pu t up a sign and then ask them to pay for it
>> just
>> > did nto work.  They think of It as any other sales pitch.  So now, I just
>> > give them away.  Kinda my bobbie-appleseed mission in life.
>> >
>> > The lastest version has a small white strip at the bottom where you can
>> > use a sharpie and mark in local info such as "See Susan at front desk".
>> > Drop contribution in bucket, etc...
>> >
>> > Bob, Wb4APR
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Josh L 
>> > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 12:39 PM
>> > To: Robert Bruninga 
>> > Cc: Electric Vehicle Discussion List 
>> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] anything to "watch out for" with refurbished EVSE
>> >
>> > Thanks, I think that would help in this area, but I can't seem to find a
>> > place to buy those particular signs, which I do think capture the
>> > polite/balanced approach I like.  If you or someone has a link to buy
>> > those particular signs (simply: "Electric Vehicle Charging Outlet"), that
>> > would be great.
>> >
>> > Josh
>> >
>> > On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 22:02:14 -0400, Robert Bruninga 
>> > you wrote:
>> >
>> >> We have inspired dozens of local EV CHarging Spots byt simply getting
>> >> people to put up signs over outdoor outelts.  The value is not for the
>> >> 1% who might use it , but for the 99% who pass it every day and
>> >> subliminally realize the EV charging is avaialble anywhere there is an
>> > outlet.
>> >>
>> >> See: http://aprs.org/EV-charging-signs.html
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >>
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:25 PM Josh L via EV 
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all:
>> >>>
>> >>> I've become involved with trying to donate some equipment or money or
>> >>> generally make information available to locations near where I live
>> >>> so we can jump-start public station deployment a bit.  I am near
>> >>> Nogales, AZ, there is only one public J1772 plug in the county, and
>> >>> that kind of sums up some of the motive.
>> >>>
>> >>> Question - here and there a used or refurbished station comes up for
>> >>> sale, and I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or feedback on
>> >>> anything to watch out for.  Is it usually just a matter of making
>> >>> sure the plug and cable are in good condition (or
>> >>> replaced) or there other things that usually go bad after awhile?
>> >>>
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Re: [EVDL] Don't be a pathetic charge-mooching-thief> (get towed)

2019-07-27 Thread paul dove via EV
What’s funny about that is that he couldn’t have gotten more than 2 or 3 
dollars worth of electricity. 

Maybe a misdemeanor not even sure a judge would bother when the did the math 
but that is very rude.

I can see the home owner being upset and worse yet parking in the grass. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2019, at 3:12 AM, brucedp5 via EV  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28524175/tesla-owner-steals-electricity-charging/
> Florida Man Parks His Tesla Overnight on a Stranger's Lawn to Steal
> Electricity
> Jul 26, 2019  Clifford Atiyeh
> 
> [image  
> https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/screen-shot-2019-07-26-at-6-16-20-pm-1564179397.png
> Tesla charging on front lawn  / WPBF News
> ]
> 
> The owner of the Tesla Model 3 used an extension cord to plug in to a
> complete stranger's outlet for 12 hours.
> 
>This actually happened and is not a joke, as reported by WPBF 25 in Lake
> Worth, Florida.
> 
>A Tesla Model 3 was left outside on a homeowner's lawn for 12 hours to
> charge using his electricity, all without his knowledge or permission.
> 
>Please do not be this pathetic while driving an EV.
> 
> Driving an electric car can sometimes make a calm person slide into bouts of
> extreme desperation. That may be the kindest way to describe why a Florida
> man ditched his Tesla on another person's lawn, stole electricity from that
> house, and walked off to party with friends in the middle of the night.
> 
> WPBF 25 television reported this exact scene in Lake Worth, a seaside locale
> just south of West Palm Beach, that occurred last Friday. The Model 3 owner,
> who was lucky to be unnamed in the story and have trespassing charges
> dropped by the homeowner, said his car's battery had died on the way to a
> friend's house around midnight. So, he figured, why not pull up onto a
> stranger's front lawn and stretch a 120-volt cord to an external outlet—a
> grounded plug surrounded by well-manicured landscaping, just perfect—and
> leave the car for 12 hours?
> 
> Homeowner Phil Phil Fraumeni said he woke up on that Friday morning to a
> call from his landscaper asking him to move his white Model 3 off the lawn.
> Fraumeni replied he didn't have a Model 3. Then he saw the friendly setup
> that had been draining electricity while he slept. WPBF 25 said he waited
> several hours for the car's owner to return before calling police, who then
> tracked down the owner's address and waited some more for the man to show
> up. He showed up, didn’t apologize, was told he'd committed a crime, and
> that was that. What's more, he didn’t pay Fraumeni a red cent for the free
> charge.
> 
> Low batteries can do something to the human psyche. Range anxiety is still a
> thing, no matter if a Tesla can comfortably travel 250-plus miles per
> charge, when you're not following the car's prescribed instructions to
> charge at precisely the right times. But when you screw up, you ... [get a
> tow]. 
> [© caranddriver.com]
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[EVDL] V2H

2019-07-27 Thread Willie via EV

Anyone know anything about this:
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/07/26/wallbox-launches-in-us-china-adds-residential-bi-directional-dc-fast-charger/
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[EVDL] Don't be a pathetic charge-mooching-thief> (get towed)

2019-07-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28524175/tesla-owner-steals-electricity-charging/
Florida Man Parks His Tesla Overnight on a Stranger's Lawn to Steal
Electricity
Jul 26, 2019  Clifford Atiyeh

[image  
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/screen-shot-2019-07-26-at-6-16-20-pm-1564179397.png
Tesla charging on front lawn  / WPBF News
]

The owner of the Tesla Model 3 used an extension cord to plug in to a
complete stranger's outlet for 12 hours.

This actually happened and is not a joke, as reported by WPBF 25 in Lake
Worth, Florida.

A Tesla Model 3 was left outside on a homeowner's lawn for 12 hours to
charge using his electricity, all without his knowledge or permission.

Please do not be this pathetic while driving an EV.

Driving an electric car can sometimes make a calm person slide into bouts of
extreme desperation. That may be the kindest way to describe why a Florida
man ditched his Tesla on another person's lawn, stole electricity from that
house, and walked off to party with friends in the middle of the night.

WPBF 25 television reported this exact scene in Lake Worth, a seaside locale
just south of West Palm Beach, that occurred last Friday. The Model 3 owner,
who was lucky to be unnamed in the story and have trespassing charges
dropped by the homeowner, said his car's battery had died on the way to a
friend's house around midnight. So, he figured, why not pull up onto a
stranger's front lawn and stretch a 120-volt cord to an external outlet—a
grounded plug surrounded by well-manicured landscaping, just perfect—and
leave the car for 12 hours?

Homeowner Phil Phil Fraumeni said he woke up on that Friday morning to a
call from his landscaper asking him to move his white Model 3 off the lawn.
Fraumeni replied he didn't have a Model 3. Then he saw the friendly setup
that had been draining electricity while he slept. WPBF 25 said he waited
several hours for the car's owner to return before calling police, who then
tracked down the owner's address and waited some more for the man to show
up. He showed up, didn’t apologize, was told he'd committed a crime, and
that was that. What's more, he didn’t pay Fraumeni a red cent for the free
charge.

Low batteries can do something to the human psyche. Range anxiety is still a
thing, no matter if a Tesla can comfortably travel 250-plus miles per
charge, when you're not following the car's prescribed instructions to
charge at precisely the right times. But when you screw up, you ... [get a
tow]. 
[© caranddriver.com]




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